It might seem vague to ask this questions, but I have searched all around and it is very unclear. I understand that the Froyo Kernel is needed for the Green Lens camera, but then there are two CM9 ROMS with Froyo Kernels. Epsylon3's and Quarx.
I've tried sorting out the differences between these and it is still unclear.
I think it would benefits all DEFY Green Lens users to not only get a correct recommendations but also to know the differences, so we can pick one to use.
So if anyone can feedback on this....great.
Paul
I have used Froyo release of Epsylon3 on my green lens defy and found some issues bugging videocamera and 720p playback lag...have also tried Skank CM9 release which are marginally better..
Quarx do not release for Froyo kernel now so I wont recommend...I can surely try the epsy or the skank CM9 anytime
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Quarx's was made quite a while ago. 8th march I think. There has been a lot of big fixes since in the epsylon build,not to mention extra features like; lock screen shortcuts, lock screen weather, themes and per-app data counter, better controlled hwui. Not to mention battery life improvements.
I find a bit more performance and just about same features in skank builds compared to epsylons.
For green lens I think either epsylon or skank builds for now.
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Hey guys, i searched on google for this question but i wanted to listen the XDA members and developers opinion about this subject...
What is the huge difference (for our Defy) between CM7 and CM9?
i try both of the roms and i think CM7 with android 2.3.7 is a lot better than CM9 which is 4.0.3 and i cant find any good advandage for CM9, so now i still use CM7 because of its smoothness and stability..
What do u think?
thanks and sorry for my english =p
4.0.3
I upgraded from CM7 2.3.5 (Green Lens) to Eppy's CM9 ICS 4.0.3 5th March Nightly (as well as the latest Google apps package). Followed the instructions to a tee and have not had one FC or any issues to report.
Pros
The battery (deep sleep) is amazing.
Battery life is extended by about a day and I am using the phone and 3G more than previous.
Camera Fine
Video Camera (recorded 3 x tests of 5 -7 mins) and no problems
Cons
The only negative is on screen custom brightness the capacitive buttons are not illuminated. But I know where those bad boys are even when they are not illuminated.
I was massively sceptical and reluctant of upgrading to ICS after reading all of the issues people were having, however follow the Guide and all is sweet.
I recommend it!
thanks for your quick answer, but i mainly wanted to ask what is the main difference between the two roms. I cant see something very different and also in Quadrant test with CM7 i get score 2300 but with CM9 only 1750. I dont know why, i thaught that newer versions should get higher score...
I think Quadrant isn't capable of using all the processor while in ICS, I remember reading that video acceleration wasn't working 100% either
I was using CM9 for a time.. but after it make some lags and using 100% of CPU, i decided return to CM7.1 .. For me CM9 has many bugs yet.
The HUGE difference is that CM7 is Gingerbread, while CM9 is Ice Cream Sandwich (more or less, as both are running on a Froyo kernel).
So CM9 brings most of the ICS's goodies: better battery life, better interface, optimisations, etc. and a few still unsolved bugs.
I'll try it too this weekend or the next (depending on the available time).
Cheers!
Hello,
I've installed CM7, then CM9, but they all have various bugs that vary annoys me. like the camera freeze bug in CM7, and some custom ring tones and sometimes cant answer call with CM9.
Can someone give me a rom with the least bug? I don't care about design, just min bug or non at all.
Thanks.
senia3 said:
Hello,
I've installed CM7, then CM9, but they all have various bugs that vary annoys me. like the camera freeze bug in CM7, and some custom ring tones and sometimes cant answer call with CM9.
Can someone give me a rom with the least bug? I don't care about design, just min bug or non at all.
Thanks.
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CM7.1 is a stable ROM, you can try also CM7.2, and now CM10 is under development, each one has a Froyo or GB Kernel,
CM7.1(Froyo Kernel) ->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654 (11/11/11build)
CM7.2(Froyo Kernel) ->
http://www.defy-cm.net/defy-cm7-nightly/ (12/31/12 build is the most stable in my opinion... needs some camera fix only for red lens)
CM10(Froyo kernel) ->
http://acrane.eu/defy/defy-cm10-nightly-quarx/
Any question just ask, good hacking!
For minimum bugs use wiui GB build,
And for best battery use jboogy's liquidginger(old ROM with 2.3.4 gingerbread base)
Wiui gb rom is stable. Using it since a month now.
S3nt fr0m my D3fy/w1u1 GB st4BL3
Thank you for your time.
Whats the differences between the froyo kernel and the GB kernel? and the nightly vs jorden and such..
How to check if I have a red lens? by looking at it yes I have red but I don't sure..
And a small correction, by stable I mean stable(won't crash) and with the least amount of bugs possible, good battery life is pretty important too. design and looks doesn't matter for me.
Thank you all again!
senia3 said:
Thank you for your time.
Whats the differences between the froyo kernel and the GB kernel? and the nightly vs jorden and such..
How to check if I have a red lens? by looking at it yes I have red but I don't sure..
And a small correction, by stable I mean stable(won't crash) and with the least amount of bugs possible, good battery life is pretty important too. design and looks doesn't matter for me.
Thank you all again!
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The Froyo Kernel can work with Green and Red lens Defy(SOC or BAYER module, respectively), and the GB Kernel only with Red Lens Defy,, that's because teh GB comes with Defy+ builds and the Defy+ has only Red lens, and can support 720p recording
To know which lens you have, just download the app CatLog, intall it, open the camera, close the camera, open CatLog, and find JordanCameraWrapper(The lib which check the device type you have), if in the log says BAYER you have Red lens, if says SOC you have Green lens(Is the general procedure, sometimes you can have Green lens with BAYER Module, just watch the camera under the light and check the color!),
So which ROM you should install?? First check the lens, if you have green is better to use a froyo kernel based, if you have red lens, depends of the features of the ROM and if you are interested in the 720p recording and panorama.
I go for CM7.2, is really really great, WIUI is very good too, just flash and make your own opinion!
Good luck!
LeonardoJegigzem said:
The Froyo Kernel can work with Green and Red lens Defy(SOC or BAYER module, respectively), and the GB Kernel only with Red Lens Defy,, that's because teh GB comes with Defy+ builds and the Defy+ has only Red lens, and can support 720p recording
To know which lens you have, just download the app CatLog, intall it, open the camera, close the camera, open CatLog, and find JordanCameraWrapper(The lib which check the device type you have), if in the log says BAYER you have Red lens, if says SOC you have Green lens(Is the general procedure, sometimes you can have Green lens with BAYER Module, just watch the camera under the light and check the color!),
So which ROM you should install?? First check the lens, if you have green is better to use a froyo kernel based, if you have red lens, depends of the features of the ROM and if you are interested in the 720p recording and panorama.
I go for CM7.2, is really really great, WIUI is very good too, just flash and make your own opinion!
Good luck!
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THANK YOU VARY MUCH!
At last I understood the differences and what should I flash. Thank you so much again!
If no one else have something to add, you can lock.
what ROM is the fastest and stable in games for my defy?
Cm7? Miui? wich version?
my defy: 1Ghz chipset + RED lens camera + 1530mah battery = they changed my chipset and camera at warranty...
I found MIUI a bit slower than CM7...
CM7 is for sure the fastest and most stable... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
you can try the WhiteRabbit build as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510063
pppprrrr said:
I found MIUI a bit slower than CM7...
CM7 is for sure the fastest and most stable... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
you can try the WhiteRabbit build as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510063
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I also recomend you WIUI stable or the latest one. Is fast enough, much more than standard MIUI.
I think
hi,
i you are only crazy about games then go for CM7 and if you want a lot of customizations on your defy and go for MIUI 2.4.13/WIUI latest version for Defy.
Thanks
In my experience, MIUI Pikachu Edition was faster than WIUI GB.
Still, I think the fastest are CM7 KANG's by FuZZ But not a big difference between them and Pikachu.
Rom's For Defy
Im also having defy....
I have used many roms....
Deiffrent roms containt different variety or features.....
In my opinion....
Pikachu Rom - Fastest rom i have ever seen, it has aroma installer, v6 supercharger:victory:
(link) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498843
CM9 fast edition - based on ICS 4.04,much stable and fast....(note) - it is for red lens and defy plus only,because in green lense your camera will not work.....It also has Aroma installer......
(link) http://www.grupoandroid.com/topic/45682-ics-404-cm9-fast-edition-v50-new-age-1705/
CM 9 Moto Ice Gun - Stable and good....but not so much faster.....
(link) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781658
CM 10 - This rom contains Some awesome features.....its really good and my favorite.....But not stable yet......work in progress....There are 2 devs who are developing CM 10 bases rom Epsylon3 And Quarx.....since Epsylon is busy with Galaxy R, you should go for quarx build........
(link) http://www.longren.org/cyanogendefy/
Thank You.....
CM7 is only good for certain games, like Skies of Glory. It's not the fastest ROM.
MIUI and WIUI aren't fast in any way. I don't know what you're talking about.
CM9 is slow, but Moto Ice Gun and Defy+++ are all very fast. They are based off of Quarx's
CM9 builds and have V6 supercharger and kickass kernelizer. I have no idea if Bravia Engine is just
a placebo effect or not.
CM10 is fastest for games, but doesn't mean that all games are compatible with it. Regular performance
isn't that great.
Stock froyo and GB are good for games, surprisingly. try CEE Deblur 3.4.2-179 or 4.5.1-134 DFP 231
FuZZ's CM7 builds are indeed really fast. I'm impressed!
I have done a speed comparison of various ROMs for the Defy and posted in the German Android forums, you guys might be interested int that.
Google for "Benchmark verschiedener ROMs für das Defy", because I am new here I am not allow to post links yet (argh).
niksy+ said:
In my experience, MIUI Pikachu Edition was faster than WIUI GB.
Still, I think the fastest are CM7 KANG's by FuZZ But not a big difference between them and Pikachu.
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Does Fuzz do any CM9/10 builds? I'm new to the device so I don't know all of the devs yet. His CM7 isreally good and I wonder if he has recent newer builds to try.
captaincrook said:
Does Fuzz do any CM9/10 builds? I'm new to the device so I don't know all of the devs yet. His CM7 isreally good and I wonder if he has recent newer builds to try.
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He use to do CM9 KANG's, but then stopped as Gingerbread was his choice and his priority and he couldn't keep up maintaining both CM7 and CM9 kangs for both DEFY and DEFY+... He might jump back to that, though... As you might have assumed already, his CM9 KANG's were the fastest CM9 builds at the time, yeah
droid_<3er said:
CM7 is only good for certain games, like Skies of Glory. It's not the fastest ROM.
MIUI and WIUI aren't fast in any way. I don't know what you're talking about.
CM9 is slow, but Moto Ice Gun and Defy+++ are all very fast. They are based off of Quarx's
CM9 builds and have V6 supercharger and kickass kernelizer. I have no idea if Bravia Engine is just
a placebo effect or not.
CM10 is fastest for games, but doesn't mean that all games are compatible with it. Regular performance
isn't that great.
Stock froyo and GB are good for games, surprisingly. try CEE Deblur 3.4.2-179 or 4.5.1-134 DFP 231
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It seems that you are only talking about gaming performance, so I don't get the point of your question.
Why I said that Pikachu MIUI was the fastest ever for me - no redraws of anything at anytime, instant start of any app, multitasking at its best (music playing in the background, playing a HD game, while switching to messaging and then back to the game without it reloading)... Stuff like that. I was really truly happy with my phone at that time, it looked awesome and worked great. Then ICS and JB showed up and now I just can't live without all those tiny new features :/ I miss Pikachu, nevertheless.
Thank you very much for the info!
The most stable rom and pretty fast out there is MS2Ginger 4.0
It even includes 720p video rec!
Suggesting a good rom for Defy
Most of the best roms have come out of either Epsylon3 or Quarx... so they are the best developers... Apart from their good roms..
If you want GB - WIUI GB (v2.5.27)is the best according to me, great looks, customization, smooth... (based on MIUI) by Wajk
if you want ICS - JIUI4 / WIUI 4 equally good for reasons same as above... by Janeindiran / Wajk... Also try Moto Ice Gun(stopped updates??) / Paranoid Android ICS... by Brajesh Sharma...
if you want JB - I would suggest Paranoid Android... the latest version i guess... I am on version 1.992 downloading the 2.0 version... pretty neat i must say.... by Brajesh Sharma...
Having said that, you will need to explore and find which one suits you the most...
fastest and best looking rom i have ever used on the defy is the white rabbit. based on cm7 kang but it has the go launcher installed by default so it looks very cool and there are loads of free themes available in the market so you can customise it so it is exactly how you want it. it also has a few nice extra apps installed that help with keeping the rom up to date. honestly i have been blown away and have had no force closes or issues. it is also very quick and everything just feels pretty damn snappy with most apps opening in a second or less.
i would avoid cm10. i tried it and is was a lag fest. dont get me wrong it looked great and for a port it is very impressive but it is slow with apps taking an age to open even after i had disabled virtually every app from the hwa settings. bottom line is the defy is old and the hardware was far from high end even when it was released so we cant expect miracles.
anyways that is my experience and others may have found cm10 to be perfectly useable. i didnt though and therefore cant recommend it. try the white rabbit... whats the worst that can happen... you dont like it and have to try something else... so what 5 minutes of your time maybe ten at a push.
Try Mokee last version
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the new quarx cm 10 nightlies are very good
cm9
I never installed a lot of roms for Defy, but i tried this CM9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
and is pretty fast and stable, everything works fine.
but i will try some of roms posted here and give my feedback
Thanks, I'm going to try out white rabbit.
Because of the controversy and arguments they inevitably generate, "best ROM" threads are prohibited on XDA. Thread closed.
Im currently going to buy another Motorola Defy but since its new in the box I can't know what lense does my defy have is there any information on the box It actually shows up if its a red lense or a green lense?
What are your thoughts about a green lense? I currently have a red lense and used the HD recording camera few times from walter's Roms (I didn't even record a usefull video, just for testing) I commonly use a cm7.2 from FuzZ froyo kernel and Im quite happy with it, but since Quarx is developing this new kernel I wonder if Green Lense will fall back or something :/
Maybe you should buy a Defy+.
Hi there, I have a Defy and have been into flashing and CFWs for a long time. I love custom ROMs and stuff, and don't mind dealing with bugs or features missing to have an updated Android version on my phone. Question is, a friend of mine, who has a Defy+, wants to revamp her phone. She says it's buggy, sluggish and stuff on her 2.3 stock. So, I'd like to know you guys' opinion on the best ROM for "usual people"? I've been thinking of installing CM9 on her phone, since it gives all 4.x goodies without the cost of having Google Now eating up our phone's CPU and RAM (that's what has been happening with mine on CM10.1), and MS2Ginger might be a good option, too, but I think she won't be happy with a 2.3 ROM, since she wants to get rid of Gingerbread. Anyway, I'd like to hear your suggestions.
Thanks in advance
CM9 the way to go
I would have said CM7.2 or MS2ginger, but I didn't read the post fully:laugh:
Yes, I would recommend CM9/9.1, which is stable enough for daily use by an average joe. Everythings working fine (except maybe Wi-Fi tethering). But which dev's build, that's upto you.
hotdog125 said:
I would have said CM7.2 or MS2ginger, but I didn't read the post fully:laugh:
Yes, I would recommend CM9/9.1, which is stable enough for daily use by an average joe. Everythings working fine (except maybe Wi-Fi tethering). But which dev's build, that's upto you.
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Yeah, I'm divided exactly between MS2Ginger or CM9. I think MS2Ginger is stable, fast and offers nice features (like 720p recording), but 2.3 is jut too outdated by now (plus, my friend has a Defy+ and wants something better than stock GB, and I think putting even a highly customized GB on her phone will give a reverse-placebo effect: she'll ignore most of the performance improvements because the Android version is the same). CM9 seems to be OK, though, but i'll have to check on this "different devs" issue (I didn't even remember this issue existed, I've had Quarx's CM10/10.1 in my Defy for a loooong time now, since all features were useable).
Actually Epsylon's and Quarx's CM9 builds are almost the same, though it seems Epsylon stopped developing for the defy.
Epsylon added the 2ndboot feature in his CM9