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Hi guys,
I've been a longtime lurker here, and avid Android fan for sometime now every since I purchased my Nexus One. I've used CM and MiUI and all, but now am looking for a stable ICS ROM which can be used as a daily use ROM with ICS.
I'm currently on MiUI 2.3.2 (tried 2.3.9 but it seems to really be very unstable for me) which seems to work fine if not for the random reboots and errors from time to time, not to mention I can't seem to get the SD to mount when the cable's connected to my PC.
Long story short, which ROM would you guys recommend? I'd love to have CM, but since they're not supporting ICS versions for the N1, I'd have to live with others.
(if I'm just repeating earlier threads, please feel free to point me there and perhaps we can close this thread)
Thanks!
TexasIce or MeDroid
Both roms are in an alpha stage but quite stable and good enough as a daily driver for weeks now.
Medroid:
- More "Cyanogen"
- A bit faster and a bit more stable (imho)
TexasIce:
- "vanilla experience"
- Awesome kernel work
Thanks Pommes.
I was leaning towards Medroid myself, but seems like there's some controversy/drama going on there with the dev, and was wondering about the continuity of it.
As I've not blackrose-d my Nexus One, I'd assume that's something I'd have to do first, yeah? I've no need to be bleeding edge in terms of updates, but just would like to have my phone being able to update and not random reboot from performing any number of things.
Samuaz's laptop is dead and zyrex tried to sell the ROM, but Samuaz later posted the link to download it. Mods have locked all of his ICS threads, even the medroid discussion thread I created. The future of that ROm is very dim, but Timbit (and possibly Zyrex) try their best to continue its development here: http://code.google.com/p/nexusone-medroid-ics/downloads/list
dk_zero-cool is a notable developer for the HTC Bravo (Desire) and has made a very good ICS ROM for it. It seems to be based on CM9. He doesn't have a Nexus One to develop on, but since the Desire and Nexus One are practically twins, it shouldn't differ that much.
Texasice is another development god when it comes to bringing ICS for us in his/evervolv team's version. It's not stock ICS or CM9, it's their "remix" of it which looks really nice.
As far as I'm concerned, these are all daily drivers, depending on what you need for a days use of your Nexus One. If you absolutely must have a fully working camera, then none of these ROMs are daily drivers for you. If you accept that there are bugs and that the camera isn't working 100%, then all of these are daily drivers. I personally recommend either texasice's version or dk_zero-cool's version.
I saw dk zero's so smooth and working camera preview now
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There's also MIUI ICS that's stable enough. Haven't yet flashed camera fix patch recently released upon that rom, but I heard it can fix camera preview too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479348
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I saw dk zero's so smooth and working camera preview now
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Thanks for this feedback, trying to flash dk zero's version now, having to Blackrose my device first which mean I have to flash a non ICS version as I can't USB mount my phone.
Quite an adventure just to have to work around as I had did a full phone wipe and lost my recovery in the process, in addition to MiUI reset wipe which seemed to have hung and I had to remove the batt to get it restarted.
Just set the custom blackrose partitions and hopefully can start flashing dkZero's version with hopefully a working camera preview as you've mentioned!
MoeNeXus said:
There's also MIUI ICS that's stable enough. Haven't yet flashed camera fix patch recently released upon that rom, but I heard it can fix camera preview too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479348
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Thanks for the update, however after all the issues I've had with MiUI the last week or so and then switching from 2.3.2 to 2.3.9 and having to restore back to 2.3.2 as the latter was too messed up on my device, I think I'd rather wait till there's a more advanced RC or stable version before attempting to flash it again.
Not to mention, I'd forgotten why I'd shy-ed away from MiUI in the past, too iPhone-ish of a UI (yeah a change of launcher might help, but I'll give this other ROM a try)
I've been using medroidmod daily - however the microphone isn't working anymore (for the past two days) - so I'm struggling to rebuild it.
I have so far been unable to get Bravo ICS to install. I have blackrose with 16mb cache partition, and m2sd packaged with Bravo is not redirecting it to SD no matter what i do, and 16 is not enough for ICS.
At this point i am tempted to go to CyanogenMod 7.2 - daily struggle with ICS is wearing me out.
DK's is AWESOME....best ICS for N1 and its not close.....super smooth and great battery
secondclaw said:
I've been using medroidmod daily - however the microphone isn't working anymore (for the past two days) - so I'm struggling to rebuild it.
I have so far been unable to get Bravo ICS to install. I have blackrose with 16mb cache partition, and m2sd packaged with Bravo is not redirecting it to SD no matter what i do, and 16 is not enough for ICS.
At this point i am tempted to go to CyanogenMod 7.2 - daily struggle with ICS is wearing me out.
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Of all the ICS I think texasice rom is good one as its stable but as theshawty mentioned it gives vanilla experience. DK's rom is more inclined to CM9 and its just cool. Got into bootloop initially but after tweaking settings in memory management, I dont get any reboots. Battery is good and rom is smooth. You can try dk IMHO.
If you want something stable, do NOT use ICS. Simple.
Ive used both medroid and bravo, I think medroid 1.4.2 was very stable with alot of customization, I didn't personally have problems with the mic but I know others did, and Ive also used Bravo so far it has been fantastic for me so far, the dev behind it aswell is very responsive and gets things fixed quickly, the only draw back is the lack of customization between bravo and medroid, I just feel like i'm missing 80% of the options and tweeks i'm able to do with bravo.
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If you want something stable, do NOT use ICS. Simple.
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Well, texasice's ICS and dk's are surprisingly stable.
Medroid 1.44 is smoth and stable. It already includes the last camera fix and a few other updates.
Non-HWA ICS Roms where always stable for me.
On HWA Roms I always had sleep of dead issues(phone freezing a few times a day), but I'm running Medroid 1.4.3(with camera preview fix flashed) now for a few days without problems.
HWA uses a lot of memory, so that could be a problem in the long run.
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If you want something stable, do NOT use ICS. Simple.
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Well, I was on CM7.1 for what seems like an eternity (used to switch ROMs quite frequently at one point) but figured its time to test drive some ICS stuff and as long as it isn't constantly random rebooting, and crashing. Its stable enough for me!
altruistic666 said:
DK's rom is more inclined to CM9 and its just cool. Got into bootloop initially but after tweaking settings in memory management, I dont get any reboots. Battery is good and rom is smooth. You can try dk IMHO.
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yeah, trying to get dk's ROM installed on my N1, just having to work through some issues I'm facing which is messing up with the install.
You should use 4ext, then you don't have any install problems.
Bud I had problem s after recover all my apps. Only dalvik and cache wipe has cleard this problems (endless boot without cache wipe?!)
BCM is very smoth but without the stock email app (i need exchange for my job) it is not realy usable. After install it (stok email app, not gmail), i had a huge battery drain. Charge via USB was not possible (whats wrong!!!), battery is discharging...
Then I went back to medroid 1.44. Medroid is not so smoth like BCM (why not???) but with Nova Louncher (not with stock) it runs very well. The best ist ScreenState works realy but you have for both cases set the CPU governor to SMARTASSV2 (or onother stats but whitout ondemand, that is very bad)
BCm is very very smoth, like CM7, but batterie drain on my phone was frightening!
An other problem is wlan, higher than channel 11 seems not to work (i had test channel 12 to 13, channel 9 does not work also, all othed channels are busy)
PS. I have unfortunately not possible to post in the corresponding post.
bin12345 said:
You should use 4ext, then you don't have any install problems.
Bud I had problem s after recover all my apps. Only dalvik and cache wipe has cleard this problems (endless boot without cache wipe?!)
BCM is very smoth but without the stock email app (i need exchange for my job) it is not realy usable. After install it (stok email app, not gmail), i had a huge battery drain. Charge via USB was not possible (whats wrong!!!), battery is discharging...
Then I went back to medroid 1.44. Medroid is not so smoth like BCM (why not???) but with Nova Louncher (not with stock) it runs very well. The best ist ScreenState works realy but you have for both cases set the CPU governor to SMARTASSV2 (or onother stats but whitout ondemand, that is very bad)
BCm is very very smoth, like CM7, but batterie drain on my phone was frightening!
An other problem is wlan, higher than channel 11 seems not to work (i had test channel 12 to 13, channel 9 does not work also, all othed channels are busy)
PS. I have unfortunately not possible to post in the corresponding post.
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There is a fix for battery drain in BCM ROM. Review this post for a file FOTA kill http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23951371&postcount=202
TexasICE's ICS ROM is the most stable, there is a camera patch floating around. You may flash both of them and enjoy ICS without missing any feature.
Hello all!
I registered here last winter, at first installing a custom ROM, then the initial 2.3.5 official release - but in the end to be safe rather than sorry, I put in the official 2.2 and been using that for 3 months. Lately though, the 2.2 has proven to be hard to use, especially when typing and correcting stuff. I would be now willing to jump into the waters.
Last time I checked, there wa some reported stuff in official 2.3.5 about dropping calls - then there being a fix for it, and then report about the fix doing nothing.
To me I need my phone to function as a phone, at all times, the interface can be nice but it cannot sacrifice any phone related functionality.
All i simply ask in current situation: How is the official 2.3.5? How is .35 kernel based ROMs? Would you people recommend upgrading to official 2.3.5?
I'd also be interested in the custom roms, though as said, bugs, even minor ones I try to avoid.
Thanks! You people are awesome!
The official 2.3.5 sounds good for your use
Battery lasts long everything works I guess
But try aurora 2.02)
Definately upgrade
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maneet21 said:
The official 2.3.5 sounds good for your use
Battery lasts long everything works I guess
But try aurora 2.02)
Definately upgrade
Sent from my aurora
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He's asking for stability and you suggest Aurora? Dzo is actively working on it, yes it's mostly stable, but for someone who seems to want to install a ROM and forget about it, not worrying to need to updating it constantly and encounter the occasional bug, I would discourage Aurora.
I recommend you Ezet CM7 .32 ROM, it's the most stable you will find at the moment. Everything works by default, even wifi tether. It's FAST! It's smooth, astounding sound volume in calls and multimedia overall, it's CM7.2, which has ics animations, including rotation, and that's beautiful, it has t9 dialer... better still, it has x5 settings app, in which you can tweak all sorts of stuff that it's simply not possible in .35 ROMs...
But best of all, it's 32 kernel, so on worries about the horrible job Huawei did with the .35 kernel, no missed calls, no problems with amtel screens, no low volume, etc...
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Oh really? Sounds fantastic... I think that I could give the best try for - and thanks for fantastic recommendation. Sounds like perfect upgrade for me.
Darn. I got the rom installed and it is working quite well - but wifi is not connecting... I will wait and see does it rectify on the AP overnight - Can´t even test with other AP's even now - but this aside wifi problems in general has always plagued my huawei. And 3G is not free nor unlimited for me, and I am mostly home so WLAN rocks
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He's asking for stability and you suggest Aurora? Dzo is actively working on it, yes it's mostly stable, but for someone who seems to want to install a ROM and forget about it, not worrying to need to updating it constantly and encounter the occasional bug, I would discourage Aurora.
I recommend you Ezet CM7 .32 ROM, it's the most stable you will find at the moment. Everything works by default, even wifi tether. It's FAST! It's smooth, astounding sound volume in calls and multimedia overall, it's CM7.2, which has ics animations, including rotation, and that's beautiful, it has t9 dialer... better still, it has x5 settings app, in which you can tweak all sorts of stuff that it's simply not possible in .35 ROMs...
But best of all, it's 32 kernel, so on worries about the horrible job Huawei did with the .35 kernel, no missed calls, no problems with amtel screens, no low volume, etc...
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Man that's ics android 4.0
Its worth trying
But plenty of options choosw wich suites u best
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maneet21 said:
Man that's ics android 4.0
Its worth trying
But plenty of options choosw wich suites u best
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Yeah... Well Text editing in 2.2 sucks without the arrow tool and all. 2.3.x is enough for that all at least.
Too bad Wifi also halted to function afterwards, I hope it is just devide name mismatch in AP and works fine after 24 hours.
.32 MIUI or CM is what you should use. They are very stable and fast.
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Seems like it TTGWarheat, the Ezet 7.2 seemed like a great thing, but I still need to tinker around reinstalling some base system software I think, some kind of error is making my phone result in non-functional wifi and I want to know what it is. I may need to find some older possible 2.2 based stock rom dload, install that first, and then get into monkey business installing Ezet again...
Sumea said:
Seems like it TTGWarheat, the Ezet 7.2 seemed like a great thing, but I still need to tinker around reinstalling some base system software I think, some kind of error is making my phone result in non-functional wifi and I want to know what it is. I may need to find some older possible 2.2 based stock rom dload, install that first, and then get into monkey business installing Ezet again...
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Yes, you must install stock 2.2 first to use a .32 kernel based ROM... good luck!
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I liked Miui more than CM. It looks better.
TTGWarheart said:
I liked Miui more than CM. It looks better.
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It's a matter of taste... for me, MIUI just looks more cartonish... and cm 7 by Ezet is 7.2 version, while MIUI is still based on cm 7.1...
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what ROM is the fastest and stable in games for my defy?
Cm7? Miui? wich version?
my defy: 1Ghz chipset + RED lens camera + 1530mah battery = they changed my chipset and camera at warranty...
I found MIUI a bit slower than CM7...
CM7 is for sure the fastest and most stable... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
you can try the WhiteRabbit build as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510063
pppprrrr said:
I found MIUI a bit slower than CM7...
CM7 is for sure the fastest and most stable... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
you can try the WhiteRabbit build as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510063
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I also recomend you WIUI stable or the latest one. Is fast enough, much more than standard MIUI.
I think
hi,
i you are only crazy about games then go for CM7 and if you want a lot of customizations on your defy and go for MIUI 2.4.13/WIUI latest version for Defy.
Thanks
In my experience, MIUI Pikachu Edition was faster than WIUI GB.
Still, I think the fastest are CM7 KANG's by FuZZ But not a big difference between them and Pikachu.
Rom's For Defy
Im also having defy....
I have used many roms....
Deiffrent roms containt different variety or features.....
In my opinion....
Pikachu Rom - Fastest rom i have ever seen, it has aroma installer, v6 supercharger:victory:
(link) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498843
CM9 fast edition - based on ICS 4.04,much stable and fast....(note) - it is for red lens and defy plus only,because in green lense your camera will not work.....It also has Aroma installer......
(link) http://www.grupoandroid.com/topic/45682-ics-404-cm9-fast-edition-v50-new-age-1705/
CM 9 Moto Ice Gun - Stable and good....but not so much faster.....
(link) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781658
CM 10 - This rom contains Some awesome features.....its really good and my favorite.....But not stable yet......work in progress....There are 2 devs who are developing CM 10 bases rom Epsylon3 And Quarx.....since Epsylon is busy with Galaxy R, you should go for quarx build........
(link) http://www.longren.org/cyanogendefy/
Thank You.....
CM7 is only good for certain games, like Skies of Glory. It's not the fastest ROM.
MIUI and WIUI aren't fast in any way. I don't know what you're talking about.
CM9 is slow, but Moto Ice Gun and Defy+++ are all very fast. They are based off of Quarx's
CM9 builds and have V6 supercharger and kickass kernelizer. I have no idea if Bravia Engine is just
a placebo effect or not.
CM10 is fastest for games, but doesn't mean that all games are compatible with it. Regular performance
isn't that great.
Stock froyo and GB are good for games, surprisingly. try CEE Deblur 3.4.2-179 or 4.5.1-134 DFP 231
FuZZ's CM7 builds are indeed really fast. I'm impressed!
I have done a speed comparison of various ROMs for the Defy and posted in the German Android forums, you guys might be interested int that.
Google for "Benchmark verschiedener ROMs für das Defy", because I am new here I am not allow to post links yet (argh).
niksy+ said:
In my experience, MIUI Pikachu Edition was faster than WIUI GB.
Still, I think the fastest are CM7 KANG's by FuZZ But not a big difference between them and Pikachu.
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Does Fuzz do any CM9/10 builds? I'm new to the device so I don't know all of the devs yet. His CM7 isreally good and I wonder if he has recent newer builds to try.
captaincrook said:
Does Fuzz do any CM9/10 builds? I'm new to the device so I don't know all of the devs yet. His CM7 isreally good and I wonder if he has recent newer builds to try.
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He use to do CM9 KANG's, but then stopped as Gingerbread was his choice and his priority and he couldn't keep up maintaining both CM7 and CM9 kangs for both DEFY and DEFY+... He might jump back to that, though... As you might have assumed already, his CM9 KANG's were the fastest CM9 builds at the time, yeah
droid_<3er said:
CM7 is only good for certain games, like Skies of Glory. It's not the fastest ROM.
MIUI and WIUI aren't fast in any way. I don't know what you're talking about.
CM9 is slow, but Moto Ice Gun and Defy+++ are all very fast. They are based off of Quarx's
CM9 builds and have V6 supercharger and kickass kernelizer. I have no idea if Bravia Engine is just
a placebo effect or not.
CM10 is fastest for games, but doesn't mean that all games are compatible with it. Regular performance
isn't that great.
Stock froyo and GB are good for games, surprisingly. try CEE Deblur 3.4.2-179 or 4.5.1-134 DFP 231
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It seems that you are only talking about gaming performance, so I don't get the point of your question.
Why I said that Pikachu MIUI was the fastest ever for me - no redraws of anything at anytime, instant start of any app, multitasking at its best (music playing in the background, playing a HD game, while switching to messaging and then back to the game without it reloading)... Stuff like that. I was really truly happy with my phone at that time, it looked awesome and worked great. Then ICS and JB showed up and now I just can't live without all those tiny new features :/ I miss Pikachu, nevertheless.
Thank you very much for the info!
The most stable rom and pretty fast out there is MS2Ginger 4.0
It even includes 720p video rec!
Suggesting a good rom for Defy
Most of the best roms have come out of either Epsylon3 or Quarx... so they are the best developers... Apart from their good roms..
If you want GB - WIUI GB (v2.5.27)is the best according to me, great looks, customization, smooth... (based on MIUI) by Wajk
if you want ICS - JIUI4 / WIUI 4 equally good for reasons same as above... by Janeindiran / Wajk... Also try Moto Ice Gun(stopped updates??) / Paranoid Android ICS... by Brajesh Sharma...
if you want JB - I would suggest Paranoid Android... the latest version i guess... I am on version 1.992 downloading the 2.0 version... pretty neat i must say.... by Brajesh Sharma...
Having said that, you will need to explore and find which one suits you the most...
fastest and best looking rom i have ever used on the defy is the white rabbit. based on cm7 kang but it has the go launcher installed by default so it looks very cool and there are loads of free themes available in the market so you can customise it so it is exactly how you want it. it also has a few nice extra apps installed that help with keeping the rom up to date. honestly i have been blown away and have had no force closes or issues. it is also very quick and everything just feels pretty damn snappy with most apps opening in a second or less.
i would avoid cm10. i tried it and is was a lag fest. dont get me wrong it looked great and for a port it is very impressive but it is slow with apps taking an age to open even after i had disabled virtually every app from the hwa settings. bottom line is the defy is old and the hardware was far from high end even when it was released so we cant expect miracles.
anyways that is my experience and others may have found cm10 to be perfectly useable. i didnt though and therefore cant recommend it. try the white rabbit... whats the worst that can happen... you dont like it and have to try something else... so what 5 minutes of your time maybe ten at a push.
Try Mokee last version
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the new quarx cm 10 nightlies are very good
cm9
I never installed a lot of roms for Defy, but i tried this CM9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
and is pretty fast and stable, everything works fine.
but i will try some of roms posted here and give my feedback
Thanks, I'm going to try out white rabbit.
Because of the controversy and arguments they inevitably generate, "best ROM" threads are prohibited on XDA. Thread closed.
Hi, to be honest, my Defy+ isn't rooted, but at some point of this year (or next by sure) I will, and I will install a ROM in a really short period, so, i want your recomendation, what ROM should i choose? I don't want any theme or nothing, i'm choosing: CM7, CM9 or CM10, CM10 by that time will be improved, so it's practically CM7 or CM10, it's obvious that CM10 is better (JellyBean, duh ), but from what i heard, it uses a lot of RAM and performance is "Good-Meh" so I don't know if go to CM10 for JellyBean, CM7 for performance and gaming or multiboot both... (Answer me like if I were rooted, I want to do it but... I will see if I hurry me)
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Hi, to be honest, my Defy+ isn't rooted, but at some point of this year (or next by sure) I will, and I will install a ROM in a really short period, so, i want your recomendation, what ROM should i choose? I don't want any theme or nothing, i'm choosing: CM7, CM9 or CM10, CM10 by that time will be improved, so it's practically CM7 or CM10, it's obvious that CM10 is better (JellyBean, duh ), but from what i heard, it uses a lot of RAM and performance is "Good-Meh" so I don't know if go to CM10 for JellyBean, CM7 for performance and gaming or multiboot both... (Answer me like if I were rooted, I want to do it but... I will see if I hurry me)
Sorry for bad english
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I will go for CM 7.2, the last stable build works very smooth, opening apps, scrolling, etc, you must flash a camera fix for this build, replacing the Camera.apk and the overlay.omap3.so.
For sure the CM10 is a attractive choice, but in my opinion isn't more smooth than CM 7.2 yet, you have some features in Jelly Bean like Google Now, and some UI improvements, for example in the notification bar, where you can read messages, call contacts, etc, the called Project Butter, and more, so if you are a smooth paranoic i recommend CM 7.2, if not, give CM 10 a chance!
LeonardoJegigzem said:
I will go for CM 7.2, the last stable build works very smooth, opening apps, scrolling, etc, you must flash a camera fix for this build, replacing the Camera.apk and the overlay.omap3.so.
For sure the CM10 is a attractive choice, but in my opinion isn't more smooth than CM 7.2 yet, you have some features in Jelly Bean like Google Now, and some UI improvements, for example in the notification bar, where you can read messages, call contacts, etc, the called Project Butter, and more, so if you are a smooth paranoic i recommend CM 7.2, if not, give CM 10 a chance!
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Thanks for the fast and complete answer, I think I will get CM7 and wait, because i'm in stock ROM, and I sometimes get reboot for bad RAM usage and it's SOOOOO SLOOOOW, so I think I will use CM7 at least for a while, thanks
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Thanks for the fast and complete answer, I think I will get CM7 and wait, because i'm in stock ROM, and I sometimes get reboot for bad RAM usage and it's SOOOOO SLOOOOW, so I think I will use CM7 at least for a while, thanks
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And i suggest you to use CM 7 with the Launcher Pro, it will change you Android experience totally.
the best rom for daily use is Ms2ginger 4.0 ...... stable , fast , has the best battery back up , high quadrant , 720p and paronama .
After testing several roms on my phone (and friends defys :silly "close stock" roms works better
Thanks :highfive: maybe I will try them three (Ms2ginger, CM7 and CM10) because id I flash one my "fear" of flashing will be gone and that way I can compare, but I think that for stable at least in a period of time will be Cm7 OR Ms2ginger, i will wait for :angel: Master Quarx :angel: to fix a couple of bugs before staying in CM10.
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I have a rooted Defy+, from which I already removed all the cruft I don't need. I am mostly happy with the phone, but there are a few quirks which are making me consider changing to a custom ROM to get a more recent Android version (rather than Gingerbread, 2.3.6).
However, I am concerned about the drawbacks of doing so. For instance, one of my brothers runs a custom ROM as well, and he suffers from random reboots around twice a week.
If I want the best reliability, are the official ROMs my only choice? Or do some of the custom ROMs manage uptime in the range of weeks/months? Also, is there anything else I'd be giving up by changing? Like, I don't know, device drivers/features? (Motorola specific software as MotoBlur I couldn't care less about).
What are your experiences in these areas? I imagine ICS-based ROMs are much more stable than JB ones, but how much?
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JB is in my opinion quite stable when considering Sevenrock's version. I have been using Sevenrock's 20130209 CM10 for a month now and I haven't experienced any random reboot. ICS is quite stable with the exception of Wi-Fi tether which is unstable.
You will lose the wallpapers, notification sounds,ringtones,etc. of the official rom while upgrading.
Thanks, a month of uptime sounds quite acceptable.
Regarding loss of features, I can assume that the waterproof/shockproof/etcproof features of the phone are still intact? Those are the actual features that I really care about (the most, at least).
I'll probably try updating to a custom ROM that is considered stable by the maintainers later on
Hello'
I can tell you that on CM10, VPN Tunneling doesn't work
there is a ringtone bug too ( after ? time )
Re: [Q] Defy+: What is lost by changing from the official (rooted) ROM to a custom on
You lose proper 720p recording and overall speed
Waterproof and shock proof etc are hardware features
CM7 and latest CM10 and MS2Ginger are the most "stable", and of these MS2Ginger being stock based has proper 720p recording
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You lose proper 720p recording and overall speed
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Overall speed? Compared to what? To the stock ROM? I was always under the impression that updating the Android version from Gingerbread to ICS or JB would result in a snappier interface.
Anyway, the other "lost" features mentioned so far don't impact me personally at all, so it sounds like it should be safe to update.
Regarding waterproof/etc being hardware features, I recall reading somewhere else that a certain custom ROM did not support that which is why I felt the need to ask.
Thanks again for the additional information.
Re: [Q] Defy+: What is lost by changing from the official (rooted) ROM to a custom on
The stock rom is snappier, but the launcher is not really smooth. By snappier I mean response time. Cm10 is smooth but not very snappy
All custom roms support waterproof/other features.
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thekguy said:
The stock rom is snappier
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Interesting... looks like I should really try to stick to the stock ROM, after all.
Thanks for all the information, guys, I will consider this topic as dealt with.
What is lost?
>1 minute delay opening google maps
frustration at slow interface
need to recharge every couple of hours
stability / peace of mind
I'm on quarx CM10 20130217 made faster by blechdose cfs 14/03 kernel - really smooth and nice to use. 20130220 was okay, stable and smooth-ish, but incompatible with blechdose kernel, so can't get it as smooth. 20130307, which backtracks further in search of stability, is frustratingly laggy (nowhere near as bad as stock though IMO) - at the moment I have 95 apps and >40GB of music.
That's what you gain, a learning curve, fun fiddles, some bits of the phone work smoother than you could ever imagine, which is great unless there is a bug in something you really want to use (luckily for me, there doesn't seem to be).