[Q] CM7 2.3.7 Or CM9 4.0.3? - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys, i searched on google for this question but i wanted to listen the XDA members and developers opinion about this subject...
What is the huge difference (for our Defy) between CM7 and CM9?
i try both of the roms and i think CM7 with android 2.3.7 is a lot better than CM9 which is 4.0.3 and i cant find any good advandage for CM9, so now i still use CM7 because of its smoothness and stability..
What do u think?
thanks and sorry for my english =p

4.0.3
I upgraded from CM7 2.3.5 (Green Lens) to Eppy's CM9 ICS 4.0.3 5th March Nightly (as well as the latest Google apps package). Followed the instructions to a tee and have not had one FC or any issues to report.
Pros
The battery (deep sleep) is amazing.
Battery life is extended by about a day and I am using the phone and 3G more than previous.
Camera Fine
Video Camera (recorded 3 x tests of 5 -7 mins) and no problems
Cons
The only negative is on screen custom brightness the capacitive buttons are not illuminated. But I know where those bad boys are even when they are not illuminated.
I was massively sceptical and reluctant of upgrading to ICS after reading all of the issues people were having, however follow the Guide and all is sweet.
I recommend it!

thanks for your quick answer, but i mainly wanted to ask what is the main difference between the two roms. I cant see something very different and also in Quadrant test with CM7 i get score 2300 but with CM9 only 1750. I dont know why, i thaught that newer versions should get higher score...

I think Quadrant isn't capable of using all the processor while in ICS, I remember reading that video acceleration wasn't working 100% either

I was using CM9 for a time.. but after it make some lags and using 100% of CPU, i decided return to CM7.1 .. For me CM9 has many bugs yet.

The HUGE difference is that CM7 is Gingerbread, while CM9 is Ice Cream Sandwich (more or less, as both are running on a Froyo kernel).
So CM9 brings most of the ICS's goodies: better battery life, better interface, optimisations, etc. and a few still unsolved bugs.
I'll try it too this weekend or the next (depending on the available time).
Cheers!

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[ROM[potential release]--WOULD YOU WANT THIS ROM?---

Just made the jump to my DHD from my HD2, was cheffing for the HD2 for 18 months so thought i would start again LOL
i have made myself a build, was wondering if anyone would be interested in it if i share
its going to be for the not particularly experimental people who need and want a really stable, stock(ish) CM rom
Froyo CM 6.1.3, uber stable
Really clean, no junk apps at all
Several performance tweaks, quadrant ~ 2300
Standard CM kernel (until i build my own)
thoughts please
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gosh darnit i have put this in the wrong section, would a MOD mind miving it to the rom development section please
Unable to comply mate as any "ROM coming soon" thread is not allowed. Feel to post your downloadable file on this thread, PMme and "then" I'll send your thread to the right area.
Cheers,
M_T_M
PS: Do not post a thread over in development 'till your ROM is ready to be released, please.
No problem, on thinking about it it is probably better here until I release anyway!
How about cm7 with fixes and all since cn7 looks a helluva lot better than froyo
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Yeah man,MrYuiM is right.Gingerbread is a lot better and more nice looking.Froyo AOSP is ugly butt.Plus,I think you should release it anyway;New roms are always welcome around here!
g.lewarne said:
i have made myself a build, was wondering if anyone would be interested in it if i share
its going to be for the not particularly experimental people who need and want a really stable, stock(ish) CM rom
Froyo CM 6.1.3, uber stable
Really clean, no junk apps at all
Several performance tweaks, quadrant ~ 2300
Standard CM kernel (until i build my own)
thoughts please
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I appreciate you've probably put a lot of work into this for your own use, but all your really proposing is CM 6.1.3 with all the crap removed and some tweaks thrown in, I agree with the latter posters that you'd better serve the community by getting your development prowess behind teamdouche in the push towards CM7 stable than releasing this.
already got my GB rom well underway, just finalizing it really (it will be a direct port of CM7 RC2 at the moment)
g.lewarne said:
already got my GB rom well underway, just finalizing it really (it will be a direct port of CM7 RC2 at the moment)
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Why do another CM7 port, what the DHD needs is a really light aosp rom like adam g's oxygen for the desire
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AndroHero said:
Why do another CM7 port, what the DHD needs is a really light aosp rom like adam g's oxygen for the desire
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Hmm, he might be lightening, we never know. What we really do need is a CM7 ROM with Lee/Mike/Segio's performance and tweaks included. Now that is a ROM from heaven But Lewarne, your work is much appreciated
i shall say nothing other than let my reputation with HD2 roms speak for itself
i wont release it for a while though
Patience is a virtue I'll look at your HD2 ROMS
i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
i find it quite unstable (tried lots of the rom ports on here) and a little laggy compared to froyo.
eg, im making the same basic rom (same apps, general system tweaks etc)
CM6+froyo - quadrant of 3300 @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - quadrant of [email protected] 1.5ghz
Now i know that quadrant is not a good benchmark, and is highly vulnerable to synthetic changes. However, nearly a thousnd points is a lot of variance, so i ran a linpack run on each, taking an average of 5 runs
CM6+froyo - 49 mflops @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - 45 mflops @ 1.5ghz
that is again quite a large disparity! visually, i actually prefer froyo as i find GB a bit too dark, and its certainly mature and stable. Even checked out the battery drain on my froyo rom, getting around 10ma or less on idle consistently, and thats with the standard CM kernel !
i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
If u can get one of the recent battery drain fixes for cyanogenmod in ur Rom I certainly would love to try ur Rom, performance tweaks in combination with battery fixes sounds good to me!
Looking forwArd to seeing ur work in action
i was living quite fine with froyo, before flash cm7, some tweaks are really hard to leave. specially long press in search button to open an app and long press in back button to close an app... and beside it, i'm getting 3~5 mAh of battery draining with mad patch in gb and with stock cm6 kernel it is 12~14...
these are the main 'problem' with cm froyo build for me! =oP
i agree with you that cm7 is really unstable when compared to froyo, cm7 has wi-fi problems, gps problem, rotate problems, radio problem... quite annoiyng to be fixing point by poiint.
if you realese your rom, certainly i'll flash, but i think your knowledge would be more appreciated fixing issues from cm7. =o)
I am sure the inspire 4G community would appreciate it as well .
g.lewarne said:
i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
i find it quite unstable (tried lots of the rom ports on here) and a little laggy compared to froyo.
eg, im making the same basic rom (same apps, general system tweaks etc)
CM6+froyo - quadrant of 3300 @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - quadrant of [email protected] 1.5ghz
Now i know that quadrant is not a good benchmark, and is highly vulnerable to synthetic changes. However, nearly a thousnd points is a lot of variance, so i ran a linpack run on each, taking an average of 5 runs
CM6+froyo - 49 mflops @ 1.5ghz
CM7+gb - 45 mflops @ 1.5ghz
that is again quite a large disparity! visually, i actually prefer froyo as i find GB a bit too dark, and its certainly mature and stable. Even checked out the battery drain on my froyo rom, getting around 10ma or less on idle consistently, and thats with the standard CM kernel !
i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
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I see where you're coming from, but also remember the drivers for the GPU for gingerbread haven't been released, nor have any of the other drivers I think. Maybe this could affect performance as the old ones are in use?
g.lewarne said:
i have to say though im not that impressed with CM7+2.3.3
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i dunno, would you guys at least like to try.look at my froyo build? im much more confident in it than i am GB at the moment.......
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Hey man! You remember me right!?!? I'm quite happy for you to see you here!
Sorry if this is off-topic! But i'm also thinking of switching to DesireHD from HD2!
I know it's been maybe only 1 week with you, but how do you find it?!
How it is compared to HD2 in terms of build quality?!
To be honest i've been reading a bit in here and i'm not assured about it
It looks DHD have many build issues (without mentioning the expected bad battery issues)!
It looks it have issues with:
-GPS fix!
-camera lens misaligned!
-battery cover and sim cover misplaced or bumping out!
-dust under screen (which means unsealed gaps!)
-died pixels!
-...
It's really freaking me out! If i haven't touchscreen issues with HD2 i wouldn't sincerely think of switching!
Life Engineer said:
Hey man! You remember me right!?!? I'm quite happy for you to see you here!
Sorry if this is off-topic! But i'm also thinking of switching to DesireHD from HD2!
I know it's been maybe only 1 week with you, but how do you find it?!
How it is compared to HD2 in terms of build quality?!
To be honest i've been reading a bit in here and i'm not assured about it
It looks DHD have many build issues (without mentioning the expected bad battery issues)!
It looks it have issues with:
-GPS fix!
-camera lens misaligned!
-battery cover and sim cover misplaced or bumping out!
-dust under screen (which means unsealed gaps!)
-died pixels!
-...
It's really freaking me out! If i haven't touchscreen issues with HD2 i wouldn't sincerely think of switching!
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Yo just to jump in. I have no problems with any of those, but I haven't really used the GPS and if there is a problem I do what many others do and install the GPS Status Toolbox Build quality for me is perfect and it looks smexy
Any updates mate?

Performance in ICS/CM9 roms

I am i right in thinking that these ICS roms use generic graphic libraries etc etc thus dont take full advantage of the performance of the phone?
So a gingerbread rom like nottachatrix will actually perform better, i know ICS has a different kernel and under the hood changes.
cheers
incorrect.
admanirv said:
I am i right in thinking that these ICS roms use generic graphic libraries etc etc thus dont take full advantage of the performance of the phone?
So a gingerbread rom like nottachatrix will actually perform better, i know ICS has a different kernel and under the hood changes.
cheers
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What? ICS is more powerfull than any blur rom...
way better than GB bro
I am using Kanged CM9 Alpha , and it is very smooth on my Atrix. Problems are camcorder is not working and HDMI out is choppy, but I rarely use these functions so it's ok for me
thaikinh said:
I am using Kanged CM9 Alpha , and it is very smooth on my Atrix. Problems are camcorder is not working and HDMI out is choppy, but I rarely use these functions so it's ok for me
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video playback (HW decoding) and flash player are what's holding me back.
On the rom that you tried, have you tried those functions?
Honestly, if I didn't have a lapdock I would be using jokesax build as my daily driver. It does everything I need it to do smoothly. Only problem is when you plug it in the lapdock, it's just an android tablet with no touch screen. Using that trackpad as your finger is not fun. Otherwise, the CM9 stuff is great.
Okay so the tegra drivers for ICS are present in the CM9 roms or is it some bespoke driver?
H/W decoding and camcorder are what keep me away from the ICS roms atm.
Thanks
Any custom can be good!
Correct me if Im wrong but as far as I can tell the big differences between ICS and GB are seen in stock roms.
And Custom Rom is USUALLY zipaligned, deodexed, converted to ext4.
Sometimes Developers (like notorious) build awesome mix of both, and put in they're own unique tweeks. Notorious's Neutrino 2.6 for instance runs graphics entirely from the GPU among some other tweeks, and you WILL NOT find a smoother faster rom. WILL NOT!
Now the only real ways we have to test out phones "performance" is with benchmarking apps like antutu and quandrant. But honestly their outcomes tend to vary so much, its hard to go by what they say.
But just so everyone knows, my best bechmark "score" on antutu was 7047 with cm7 oc'd to 1.45 (which is gingerbread by the way)
Ive benched every rom from all of Jokers cm9's, to every miui (GB&ICS) as well as all the CM7's and builds based off them (neutrino, morrisoftgen). Even BLUR based roms like dorians redpill and The Darkside by nottich.
All im saying is that I think both builds have the potential to be equally as powerful as the eachother.
PLEASE if Im completly wrong about ANY of this I would like to be corrected, but please make sure its with CORRECT information, lol.
Thanks!
CM9 anTuTu
Also, the best score on antutu ive gotten on any one of the cm9 jokersax builds with faux 1.45 oc kernel was about 6900!
So, so far Custom GB roms are best so far according to benches
I think the gb rooms perform a little bit faster...using cm9 4.0 jokersax and its laggy opening my app drawer and little laggy moments too..cm7 was a little bit faster though imo
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the ICS ROMs still aren't very good with 2D hardware acceleration. And that means 2D is still gonna be slow and jerky.
ICS
I am running with jokersax ics rom, it is great, and the performance is better than the OTA 2.3.5 from Bell.. it took a bit to get the bootloader unlocked, etc.. it seems like I flash roms daily now... Unfortunately, there are still bugs... the most utd rom does not seem to take pictures properly, causes the app to lock up, and the video cam is no usable at all.. :\ I have reverted back to the 0.3.3 rom, and it will take pictures... as far as 2d/3d games are concerned, I play world of goo, hot pursuit, angry birds space and they all run great...
Motorola has ics update in progress as we speak, and they should be rolling out in a couple months, which means any lost code or functions that are n/a now will be rippable from the official... so either way, you can use the ota now or get a taste of ICS with a few problems...
flashing only takes about 5 minutes anyhoo, so its not like you can't switch back and forth....
I find ICS to perform a little quicker, my 2 cents.
Performance
Personally I have used Jokersax's and turl's builds (using turl now, but downloading jokersax 0.4.4 now). Both have really very good performance, especially compared to stock, I would say they outperform it by a long way, but yea, 2D graphics aren't brilliant and the camera was borked (although jokersax has apparently fixed that). I would say definitely change to 4.0.4 just because it is the latest android version and everything about it is soo nice, no blur to bog it down and while I am sure that many 2.3 roms can perform better, sometimes, it is best to choose user experience.
im on turl's latest and find scrolling to be so utterly smooth on ics easily replicating the smooth scrolling experiene on iphone whereas GB always had that slight jittery scroll which always annoyed me. I use apex launcher which i find to be smoother than trebuchet and with that all in all id say performance seems smoother than back on GB
I'm using CM9 both on HPtouchpad and Atrix.
And I can say that Atrix's 2d acceleration is not perfect yet.
It is almost perfect when we scroll lists.
But not when we scroll home screen with wallpaper scroll option.
And some people will think that browser's acceleration is perfect,
but it is not yet when it comes to complex web page.
It can be even more faster. I found that when I used cm9 on hp touchpad.
(Of course, turl and jokersax are doing great job. We have to blame motorola and nvidia )
I find cm9 to work very well, although there are the browser issues mentioned elsewhere.
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ICS ROMs

I'm looking for your opinion guys, which ICS ROM is the most complete and stable or simple which ICS ROM are you using...
rockypr said:
I'm looking for your opinion guys, which ICS ROM is the most complete and stable or simple which ICS ROM are you using...
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I have been running the unoffical CM9 by jmztaylor since the first release. Has been the best for my phone at least and very good battery life. You should just try them out and go with the one that your phone has the best results with.
gummy worms is still a valid ics rom but you are gonna be lacking hardware accelleration (hwa) and camera/camcorder can work but also is being reported broken sooo yeah
the lastest of aokp is known for being full of reboots (but as a side note i have only had 1 reboot so far but has some graphical glitches with menu's but nothing to knock it down any so again beware it could be different on your phone) but b33 has been the strongest /most stable but is lacking the camera fix but there is a zip you can flash with it.
jamie has an ics rom with hwa but doesnt have the customization tweaks that you find in aokp but i have had ZERO reboots in my experinces there is a camera fix used in aokp will most likely work for you here to since they are based off the same (correct me if im wrong please)
decks i have little experience with the latest builds so i'll leave someone else to input on that
same iwth cm9 but its been comin to the party a bit later but i hear its stable and on its way to being a good daily rom for most and i think the camera works but no camcorder/panoramic(again correct me if im wrong please i havent run this particular one so im pulling that from memory of reading thread)
I installed the Unofficial CM9 and I was all good until its start freezing and rebooting
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Swipers MIUI ICS is amazingly stable.
You can't beat it
I've been using Deck's builds as daily drivers for a while now not quite as many features as AOKP or CM9, but quite stable on my handset. YMMV of course.
With ANY of the ICS ROMs you're looking at feature incomplete alpha or beta level builds. So "stable" is a relative term.
Dark light version 3.5 has been the most stable on my evo, plus its all themed out in black and white.
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KWIQ ICS is working for me
ben.nesheim mentioned jamie's rom, that is KWIQ ICS. I was running AOKP all through April and was liking the progress. I think after they added the HWA it got unstable for me on my phone so I ventured out and tried KWIQ. It just worked on my phone giving me everything I needed. I recently added the patch for the camera and now the only two things I am missing are front camera (would like to try Skype again) and 4g. I would be happy enough with this setup if this is all I ever got. I now have Chrome browser and all my apps I care about. I am one happy camper.
And Jamie has commented that he is making progress on an update to be coming out as soon as he feels it is stable.
AOKP here for a few days now. Everything works very well except Hulu and Netflix (haven't tried Youtube yet) and once in a while the camera app stops/freezes for a minute.
Everything else is butter.
In addition to the original question, do any of them have fully functioning camera (front and back) and camcorder?
I tried qwik ICS and it was stupid stable but didn't have working camera.
AoKP, run it on every device I have eexcept the photon cuz that POS is a pain to flash sh!t to so its stock rooted, but I have aokp on my Evo4g, kindle fire, Epic Touch 4g and my dads gNote
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I've been using Lithium's MIUI rom and have also tried the Unofficial CM9. The MIUI rom has been stable for me and runs smoother then CM9.
Camera ICS in the Market will give you rear cam up to 8MP and video. None of them have FFC yet
aokp35 has been working great with the ics camera and will try camcorder in a bit
Hi everyone ! i was using AOKP EaglesBlood ICS 4.0.3 it feets my G2X pretty well,then I've installed newest version which is AOSP EaglesBlood 4.0.4 and there starts too many bugs with my phone like:
1) Rebooting
2)Freezing
3) and big one.recently i have noticed that my Profiles disappeared from settings,and every time i set ringtone it keeps rolling back to silent mode its really annoying
AVAR05 said:
Hi everyone ! i was using AOKP EaglesBlood ICS 4.0.3 it feets my G2X pretty well,then I've installed newest version which is AOSP EaglesBlood 4.0.4 and there starts too many bugs with my phone like:
1) Rebooting
2)Freezing
3) and big one.recently i have noticed that my Profiles disappeared from settings,and every time i set ringtone it keeps rolling back to silent mode its really annoying
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This is the HTC Evo forum not the G2X forum, wrong section bud
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I've ran team D.I.R.Ts cm9 and it seemed pretty stable. Had no reboots at all. Switched back to digitalkarma because I like the sense look though.
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The best ICS ROM I have used is Team D.I.R.T's http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1657892
Best ICS by far is jmztaylor's CM9 nightlies. He's now back up and running again, so we should see some quality stuff over the next few weeks.
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I'm looking for your opinion guys, which ICS ROM is the most complete and stable or simple which ICS ROM are you using...
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Now that you have been reccomended every ICS rom for the evo. Lol.
My oppinion: Download teamdirt's cm9 and AOKP Milestone 5. (Milestone 5 can be found on the aokp website) Try out both roms, starting with AOKP.
Reason: I work using my phone for GPS and, on average, 15 calls and 25 texts a day. This means that if I flash a rom, it gets the full daily driver test.
That being said, AOKP was smooth, fast, battery efficient, and even easier to use And navigate. My only problem was random hot reboots.
Cm9 was somewhat choppy at times, but comparable to AOKP. NO REBOOTS!
Final verdict: Decks Reloaded. Lol. I couldn't decide so I went back to Gingerbread.
Reloaded from my Decked out evo using XDA

what is the fastest ROM for my defy?

what ROM is the fastest and stable in games for my defy?
Cm7? Miui? wich version?
my defy: 1Ghz chipset + RED lens camera + 1530mah battery = they changed my chipset and camera at warranty...
I found MIUI a bit slower than CM7...
CM7 is for sure the fastest and most stable... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
you can try the WhiteRabbit build as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510063
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I found MIUI a bit slower than CM7...
CM7 is for sure the fastest and most stable... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
you can try the WhiteRabbit build as well http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1510063
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I also recomend you WIUI stable or the latest one. Is fast enough, much more than standard MIUI.
I think
hi,
i you are only crazy about games then go for CM7 and if you want a lot of customizations on your defy and go for MIUI 2.4.13/WIUI latest version for Defy.
Thanks
In my experience, MIUI Pikachu Edition was faster than WIUI GB.
Still, I think the fastest are CM7 KANG's by FuZZ But not a big difference between them and Pikachu.
Rom's For Defy
Im also having defy....
I have used many roms....
Deiffrent roms containt different variety or features.....
In my opinion....
Pikachu Rom - Fastest rom i have ever seen, it has aroma installer, v6 supercharger:victory:
(link) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1498843
CM9 fast edition - based on ICS 4.04,much stable and fast....(note) - it is for red lens and defy plus only,because in green lense your camera will not work.....It also has Aroma installer......
(link) http://www.grupoandroid.com/topic/45682-ics-404-cm9-fast-edition-v50-new-age-1705/
CM 9 Moto Ice Gun - Stable and good....but not so much faster.....
(link) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781658
CM 10 - This rom contains Some awesome features.....its really good and my favorite.....But not stable yet......work in progress....There are 2 devs who are developing CM 10 bases rom Epsylon3 And Quarx.....since Epsylon is busy with Galaxy R, you should go for quarx build........
(link) http://www.longren.org/cyanogendefy/
Thank You.....
CM7 is only good for certain games, like Skies of Glory. It's not the fastest ROM.
MIUI and WIUI aren't fast in any way. I don't know what you're talking about.
CM9 is slow, but Moto Ice Gun and Defy+++ are all very fast. They are based off of Quarx's
CM9 builds and have V6 supercharger and kickass kernelizer. I have no idea if Bravia Engine is just
a placebo effect or not.
CM10 is fastest for games, but doesn't mean that all games are compatible with it. Regular performance
isn't that great.
Stock froyo and GB are good for games, surprisingly. try CEE Deblur 3.4.2-179 or 4.5.1-134 DFP 231
FuZZ's CM7 builds are indeed really fast. I'm impressed!
I have done a speed comparison of various ROMs for the Defy and posted in the German Android forums, you guys might be interested int that.
Google for "Benchmark verschiedener ROMs für das Defy", because I am new here I am not allow to post links yet (argh).
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In my experience, MIUI Pikachu Edition was faster than WIUI GB.
Still, I think the fastest are CM7 KANG's by FuZZ But not a big difference between them and Pikachu.
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Does Fuzz do any CM9/10 builds? I'm new to the device so I don't know all of the devs yet. His CM7 isreally good and I wonder if he has recent newer builds to try.
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Does Fuzz do any CM9/10 builds? I'm new to the device so I don't know all of the devs yet. His CM7 isreally good and I wonder if he has recent newer builds to try.
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He use to do CM9 KANG's, but then stopped as Gingerbread was his choice and his priority and he couldn't keep up maintaining both CM7 and CM9 kangs for both DEFY and DEFY+... He might jump back to that, though... As you might have assumed already, his CM9 KANG's were the fastest CM9 builds at the time, yeah
droid_<3er said:
CM7 is only good for certain games, like Skies of Glory. It's not the fastest ROM.
MIUI and WIUI aren't fast in any way. I don't know what you're talking about.
CM9 is slow, but Moto Ice Gun and Defy+++ are all very fast. They are based off of Quarx's
CM9 builds and have V6 supercharger and kickass kernelizer. I have no idea if Bravia Engine is just
a placebo effect or not.
CM10 is fastest for games, but doesn't mean that all games are compatible with it. Regular performance
isn't that great.
Stock froyo and GB are good for games, surprisingly. try CEE Deblur 3.4.2-179 or 4.5.1-134 DFP 231
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It seems that you are only talking about gaming performance, so I don't get the point of your question.
Why I said that Pikachu MIUI was the fastest ever for me - no redraws of anything at anytime, instant start of any app, multitasking at its best (music playing in the background, playing a HD game, while switching to messaging and then back to the game without it reloading)... Stuff like that. I was really truly happy with my phone at that time, it looked awesome and worked great. Then ICS and JB showed up and now I just can't live without all those tiny new features :/ I miss Pikachu, nevertheless.
Thank you very much for the info!
The most stable rom and pretty fast out there is MS2Ginger 4.0
It even includes 720p video rec!
Suggesting a good rom for Defy
Most of the best roms have come out of either Epsylon3 or Quarx... so they are the best developers... Apart from their good roms..
If you want GB - WIUI GB (v2.5.27)is the best according to me, great looks, customization, smooth... (based on MIUI) by Wajk
if you want ICS - JIUI4 / WIUI 4 equally good for reasons same as above... by Janeindiran / Wajk... Also try Moto Ice Gun(stopped updates??) / Paranoid Android ICS... by Brajesh Sharma...
if you want JB - I would suggest Paranoid Android... the latest version i guess... I am on version 1.992 downloading the 2.0 version... pretty neat i must say.... by Brajesh Sharma...
Having said that, you will need to explore and find which one suits you the most...
fastest and best looking rom i have ever used on the defy is the white rabbit. based on cm7 kang but it has the go launcher installed by default so it looks very cool and there are loads of free themes available in the market so you can customise it so it is exactly how you want it. it also has a few nice extra apps installed that help with keeping the rom up to date. honestly i have been blown away and have had no force closes or issues. it is also very quick and everything just feels pretty damn snappy with most apps opening in a second or less.
i would avoid cm10. i tried it and is was a lag fest. dont get me wrong it looked great and for a port it is very impressive but it is slow with apps taking an age to open even after i had disabled virtually every app from the hwa settings. bottom line is the defy is old and the hardware was far from high end even when it was released so we cant expect miracles.
anyways that is my experience and others may have found cm10 to be perfectly useable. i didnt though and therefore cant recommend it. try the white rabbit... whats the worst that can happen... you dont like it and have to try something else... so what 5 minutes of your time maybe ten at a push.
Try Mokee last version
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the new quarx cm 10 nightlies are very good
cm9
I never installed a lot of roms for Defy, but i tried this CM9:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
and is pretty fast and stable, everything works fine.
but i will try some of roms posted here and give my feedback
Thanks, I'm going to try out white rabbit.
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Best firmware for the average joe?

Hi there, I have a Defy and have been into flashing and CFWs for a long time. I love custom ROMs and stuff, and don't mind dealing with bugs or features missing to have an updated Android version on my phone. Question is, a friend of mine, who has a Defy+, wants to revamp her phone. She says it's buggy, sluggish and stuff on her 2.3 stock. So, I'd like to know you guys' opinion on the best ROM for "usual people"? I've been thinking of installing CM9 on her phone, since it gives all 4.x goodies without the cost of having Google Now eating up our phone's CPU and RAM (that's what has been happening with mine on CM10.1), and MS2Ginger might be a good option, too, but I think she won't be happy with a 2.3 ROM, since she wants to get rid of Gingerbread. Anyway, I'd like to hear your suggestions.
Thanks in advance
CM9 the way to go
I would have said CM7.2 or MS2ginger, but I didn't read the post fully:laugh:
Yes, I would recommend CM9/9.1, which is stable enough for daily use by an average joe. Everythings working fine (except maybe Wi-Fi tethering). But which dev's build, that's upto you.
hotdog125 said:
I would have said CM7.2 or MS2ginger, but I didn't read the post fully:laugh:
Yes, I would recommend CM9/9.1, which is stable enough for daily use by an average joe. Everythings working fine (except maybe Wi-Fi tethering). But which dev's build, that's upto you.
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Yeah, I'm divided exactly between MS2Ginger or CM9. I think MS2Ginger is stable, fast and offers nice features (like 720p recording), but 2.3 is jut too outdated by now (plus, my friend has a Defy+ and wants something better than stock GB, and I think putting even a highly customized GB on her phone will give a reverse-placebo effect: she'll ignore most of the performance improvements because the Android version is the same). CM9 seems to be OK, though, but i'll have to check on this "different devs" issue (I didn't even remember this issue existed, I've had Quarx's CM10/10.1 in my Defy for a loooong time now, since all features were useable).
Actually Epsylon's and Quarx's CM9 builds are almost the same, though it seems Epsylon stopped developing for the defy.
Epsylon added the 2ndboot feature in his CM9

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