Performance in ICS/CM9 roms - Atrix 4G General

I am i right in thinking that these ICS roms use generic graphic libraries etc etc thus dont take full advantage of the performance of the phone?
So a gingerbread rom like nottachatrix will actually perform better, i know ICS has a different kernel and under the hood changes.
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incorrect.

admanirv said:
I am i right in thinking that these ICS roms use generic graphic libraries etc etc thus dont take full advantage of the performance of the phone?
So a gingerbread rom like nottachatrix will actually perform better, i know ICS has a different kernel and under the hood changes.
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What? ICS is more powerfull than any blur rom...

way better than GB bro

I am using Kanged CM9 Alpha , and it is very smooth on my Atrix. Problems are camcorder is not working and HDMI out is choppy, but I rarely use these functions so it's ok for me

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I am using Kanged CM9 Alpha , and it is very smooth on my Atrix. Problems are camcorder is not working and HDMI out is choppy, but I rarely use these functions so it's ok for me
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video playback (HW decoding) and flash player are what's holding me back.
On the rom that you tried, have you tried those functions?

Honestly, if I didn't have a lapdock I would be using jokesax build as my daily driver. It does everything I need it to do smoothly. Only problem is when you plug it in the lapdock, it's just an android tablet with no touch screen. Using that trackpad as your finger is not fun. Otherwise, the CM9 stuff is great.

Okay so the tegra drivers for ICS are present in the CM9 roms or is it some bespoke driver?
H/W decoding and camcorder are what keep me away from the ICS roms atm.
Thanks

Any custom can be good!
Correct me if Im wrong but as far as I can tell the big differences between ICS and GB are seen in stock roms.
And Custom Rom is USUALLY zipaligned, deodexed, converted to ext4.
Sometimes Developers (like notorious) build awesome mix of both, and put in they're own unique tweeks. Notorious's Neutrino 2.6 for instance runs graphics entirely from the GPU among some other tweeks, and you WILL NOT find a smoother faster rom. WILL NOT!
Now the only real ways we have to test out phones "performance" is with benchmarking apps like antutu and quandrant. But honestly their outcomes tend to vary so much, its hard to go by what they say.
But just so everyone knows, my best bechmark "score" on antutu was 7047 with cm7 oc'd to 1.45 (which is gingerbread by the way)
Ive benched every rom from all of Jokers cm9's, to every miui (GB&ICS) as well as all the CM7's and builds based off them (neutrino, morrisoftgen). Even BLUR based roms like dorians redpill and The Darkside by nottich.
All im saying is that I think both builds have the potential to be equally as powerful as the eachother.
PLEASE if Im completly wrong about ANY of this I would like to be corrected, but please make sure its with CORRECT information, lol.
Thanks!

CM9 anTuTu
Also, the best score on antutu ive gotten on any one of the cm9 jokersax builds with faux 1.45 oc kernel was about 6900!
So, so far Custom GB roms are best so far according to benches

I think the gb rooms perform a little bit faster...using cm9 4.0 jokersax and its laggy opening my app drawer and little laggy moments too..cm7 was a little bit faster though imo
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure the ICS ROMs still aren't very good with 2D hardware acceleration. And that means 2D is still gonna be slow and jerky.

ICS
I am running with jokersax ics rom, it is great, and the performance is better than the OTA 2.3.5 from Bell.. it took a bit to get the bootloader unlocked, etc.. it seems like I flash roms daily now... Unfortunately, there are still bugs... the most utd rom does not seem to take pictures properly, causes the app to lock up, and the video cam is no usable at all.. :\ I have reverted back to the 0.3.3 rom, and it will take pictures... as far as 2d/3d games are concerned, I play world of goo, hot pursuit, angry birds space and they all run great...
Motorola has ics update in progress as we speak, and they should be rolling out in a couple months, which means any lost code or functions that are n/a now will be rippable from the official... so either way, you can use the ota now or get a taste of ICS with a few problems...
flashing only takes about 5 minutes anyhoo, so its not like you can't switch back and forth....
I find ICS to perform a little quicker, my 2 cents.

Performance
Personally I have used Jokersax's and turl's builds (using turl now, but downloading jokersax 0.4.4 now). Both have really very good performance, especially compared to stock, I would say they outperform it by a long way, but yea, 2D graphics aren't brilliant and the camera was borked (although jokersax has apparently fixed that). I would say definitely change to 4.0.4 just because it is the latest android version and everything about it is soo nice, no blur to bog it down and while I am sure that many 2.3 roms can perform better, sometimes, it is best to choose user experience.

im on turl's latest and find scrolling to be so utterly smooth on ics easily replicating the smooth scrolling experiene on iphone whereas GB always had that slight jittery scroll which always annoyed me. I use apex launcher which i find to be smoother than trebuchet and with that all in all id say performance seems smoother than back on GB

I'm using CM9 both on HPtouchpad and Atrix.
And I can say that Atrix's 2d acceleration is not perfect yet.
It is almost perfect when we scroll lists.
But not when we scroll home screen with wallpaper scroll option.
And some people will think that browser's acceleration is perfect,
but it is not yet when it comes to complex web page.
It can be even more faster. I found that when I used cm9 on hp touchpad.
(Of course, turl and jokersax are doing great job. We have to blame motorola and nvidia )

I find cm9 to work very well, although there are the browser issues mentioned elsewhere.
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GamerzRom ICS

We want to make a teamhacksung ics version with gaming mode. Just for the try.
Ice cream sandwich has great imporivements about rendering. But ram is crazy low for games. With gaming mode we will avoid this.
If you want to try an ics version of gamerzrom please vote here.
Yeah that would be totally amazing, I'm using OneCosmic's RC3.1 right now and I'm happy to play Grand Theft Auto III , without or just a little lag.. but an GamerzRom ICS would make it more powerfully!
I would love to see that.
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Yeah that would be totally amazing, I'm using OneCosmic's RC3.1 right now and I'm happy to play Grand Theft Auto III , without or just a little lag.. but an GamerzRom ICS would make it more powerfully!
I would love to see that.
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We work hard for the scripts. We need a huge process name and apk name list for it. It will be good in ICS.
Totally hell yeah! But I'd wait a bit longer (at least for build 15).
Hahaha I wish I had a girlfriend that would understand about this! Mine just complains when she sees me with my phone -.-''... burakgon you lucky bastard! XDDD
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Totally hell yeah! But I'd wait a bit longer (at least for build 15).
Hahaha I wish I had a girlfriend that would understand about this! Mine just complains when she sees me with my phone -.-''... burakgon you lucky bastard! XDDD
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My girlfriend is more clever than me. She doesn't have an android but we will buy a sgs2 her in a few days. She will be better than me on this job.
Thanks for votes! This is enough the see reaction! We will release it but not on v14. Thanks again!
Wouldn' t be a CM7.1 version better?
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Thanks for votes! This is enough the see reaction! We will release it but not on v14. Thanks again!
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Maybe a MIUI v4 version ? Good UI with Good Performances is better
Actually CM7 and MIUI already have lots of RAM available (that's why those roms are great for multitasking), but don't have samsung's drivers, that why game and video performance isn't that great. Having a sammy rom with lots of RAM available is much better for games. I was using CM7 for long (since I multitask a lot) but was kinda disappointed in many aspects too like gaming, video, lack of samsung's dialer, music app and browser among others (sammy's browser is incredibly smooth, CM7 can't touch it). GamerzRom allows me to play games much better than cm7 (I even tried glitch kernel and it wasn't enough)
@burakgon I know you're excited to release a version for ICS (maybe as a proof of concept?), but I've tried both icecosmic's and teamhacksung's most recent versions and those are really immature builds as of yet. Eventually those will be ready for daily use, but there are still many bugs to iron out.
Also compatibility is low, not many games run properly (if at all). You get some random FCs as well, and it's a headache for people who don't want to do alpha testing (onecosmic version being labelled as "Release Candidate" is laughable, and irresponsible)
I think it'd be better if you and Chun Li focus on getting the gingerbread version to something you think it's ready, and then you can focus on ICS when it reaches a good maturity level.
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Actually CM7 and MIUI already have lots of RAM available (that's why those roms are great for multitasking), but don't have samsung's drivers, that why game and video performance isn't that great. Having a sammy rom with lots of RAM available is much better for games. I was using CM7 for long (since I multitask a lot) but was kinda disappointed in many aspects too like gaming, video, lack of samsung's dialer, music app and browser among others (sammy's browser is incredibly smooth, CM7 can't touch it). GamerzRom allows me to play games much better than cm7 (I even tried glitch kernel and it wasn't enough)
@burakgon I know you're excited to release a version for ICS (maybe as a proof of concept?), but I've tried both icecosmic's and teamhacksung's most recent versions and those are really immature builds as of yet. Eventually those will be ready for daily use, but there are still many bugs to iron out.
Also compatibility is low, not many games run properly (if at all). You get some random FCs as well, and it's a headache for people who don't want to do alpha testing (onecosmic version being labelled as "Release Candidate" is laughable, and irresponsible)
I think it'd be better if you and Chun Li focus on getting the gingerbread version to something you think it's ready, and then you can focus on ICS when it reaches a good maturity level.
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Agree with this
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parhelion69 said:
Actually CM7 and MIUI already have lots of RAM available (that's why those roms are great for multitasking), but don't have samsung's drivers, that why game and video performance isn't that great. Having a sammy rom with lots of RAM available is much better for games. I was using CM7 for long (since I multitask a lot) but was kinda disappointed in many aspects too like gaming, video, lack of samsung's dialer, music app and browser among others (sammy's browser is incredibly smooth, CM7 can't touch it). GamerzRom allows me to play games much better than cm7 (I even tried glitch kernel and it wasn't enough)
@burakgon I know you're excited to release a version for ICS (maybe as a proof of concept?), but I've tried both icecosmic's and teamhacksung's most recent versions and those are really immature builds as of yet. Eventually those will be ready for daily use, but there are still many bugs to iron out.
Also compatibility is low, not many games run properly (if at all). You get some random FCs as well, and it's a headache for people who don't want to do alpha testing (onecosmic version being labelled as "Release Candidate" is laughable, and irresponsible)
I think it'd be better if you and Chun Li focus on getting the gingerbread version to something you think it's ready, and then you can focus on ICS when it reaches a good maturity level.
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Totally agree.
Not yet ,, let ICS Finally version come out first
Also I think it's better to wait for ICS. For now let's focus on JVU...
ICS : too early, JVU would be better.
Hi Burakgon,
It is indeed to soon to try to work on ICS.
ICS versions are not fully working, not mature and not ready yet.
Your JVU work is very good, and it would be better to carry on JVU.
Anyway, your the one to decide.
Thanks you very much for all the great improvements on JVU, and the upcoming Version 3.
Cheers.
Just two things to consider, Burakgon.
First of all, the ICS roms are still not entirely stable so it might be a good idea to wait for maybe build 16 or above to be released.
Secondly, gaming on CM9 beta 14 is actually really smooth, albeit not as smooth as on your JVU gaming rom. For example, I can play shadowgun and gta without lags on beta 14. So, even though ICS has less free ram, it is somehow able to manage the ram well enough such that the games run fine. Nonetheless, it would be great to have an ICS gaming rom, as compared to gingerbread, since ICS has so many more features anyway.
an ICS gamerzrom would be great!!
(i'd prefered it based on onecosmic's ics but that's another story )
however, if going to ICS means less support for the GB version of your rom, i'd stick to GB...
i wonder what you guys talking about, useing th b14 with perkas mod since a week,
not a single force close or reboot, everything runs great would never switch back to samsung stock based roms
yes please, more ICS on I9000
As said by a few others, ICS is probable not the best way to go quite yet, give it a while to stabalise first.
no yet , its a good idee to create a gamezone ics , but ics have bugs , i think that are better for you to wait 1 month until its release a stable version of ics , with no bugs or with less bugs (sorry for my english if are mistakes)

Anyone had the luxury of trying 4 ICS Roms out yet?

Can you contrast and compare?
Too soon?
Midnote seems to have everything working from the getgo...fullroot...all features. Just stuck at 1200 speed.
Don't know about the others.
I'll be flashing the chainfire repack this weekend...
Hahahaha was just about to post the same question. Would love cm9 as I had that on my sgs2
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All current stable ics leaks are clocked at 1.2
Swyped from the white galaxy note. You're jealous, it's ok.
LAGGY LAG!
I would be pretty much interested in the following: What is your guys experience with the well known lag of the note? After several weeks using a rom the note gets pretty laggy after standby sessions...evertime I unlock my note I have to wait a few seconds, until an app starts. This happened to me with stock & several RocketRoms & Kernels and I found many people sharing these experiences.
Will this change with ICS?
brooon said:
I would be pretty much interested in the following: What is your guys experience with the well known lag of the note? After several weeks using a rom the note gets pretty laggy after standby sessions...evertime I unlock my note I have to wait a few seconds, until an app starts. This happened to me with stock & several RocketRoms & Kernels and I found many people sharing these experiences.
Will this change with ICS?
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I've been using Chainfire's repack for a couple days and it's sped everything up immensely. There's still the dead minor stutter with scrolling in some apps, but all in all it's definitely a huge change.
I'll probably flash Rocket's 1.5 now that the SMemo is working and has the stock ICS messaging app, but is devoid of most of the bloat.
Gonna see if HW acceleration still brings everything up to snuff with a deodex'd rom, too.
Thanks DarkShot666! You´ve mentioned the stock messaging app, one more question in this context: I haven´t read anything about the calendar...are we able to use the stock cal as well or am I still bound to the S-Planner (which I kind of dislike in comparison to the beautiful ICS one )? I didn´t give the memo integration in the calendar one single shot, don´t need it (yet)...
I've been using ICS since the chinese leak came out. First I used that and then, when Team Rocket ROM came out, I switched to that and have been using it since.
I also have used ICS CM9 alpha by maui for about a week as a daily driver.
All in all, there is a serious speed boost and everything looks nicer (IMO), yet there are also still bugs. The most notable for me is lack of "use wireless networks" setting for GPS location. At the moment the only GPS app I use is Foursquare (since my car is in service now, so no navigation for a while), and I have troubles locking on to GPS. It takes forever (meaning it takes minutes) and sometimes doesn't lock at all. This is in contrast to CM9 alpha I tried before, which would give me a quite good location in a few seconds.
The calendar is ICS stock, I think.. At least it looks like that.
What I don't really like is that there is no stock "contacts" and "dialer". It's a personal preference, of course, but I really like the ICS original apps, especially contacts and phone, which give you hi-res full-screen pic of the person calling. This one doesn't.
All in all, if I compare GB on Note to ICS on Note, ICS is definitely faster, smoother and generally way better. You have to suffer a few bugs and a few Force Closes here and there, at least for now..
If I compare the new leaked ROM and custom ROMs based on that with the CM9 build by maui, I must say that CM9 definitely would win if it didn't have the current major problems like camera not working and a bit more FCs than on leaked one. CM9 alpha seemed smoother and cleaner, it also had stock AOSP ICS apps and for the GPS issue - CM9 locked on almost instantly (2-10 sec, even indoors), way faster than any ROM on GB I tried, it also seemed to have a bit smoother animations and effects. One notable example would be when pinch-zoom-out is used in browser. If you watch a demo/review of proper ICS (for example, Galaxy Nexus) where you can see pinch-zooming in browser, when you zoom out, the previous full screen stays visible as a block, yet the new zoomed-out portion is not yet visible. When releasing fingers, the non-visible area fades smoothly to readable text. (hard to describe, so just watch a video if you don't understand what I mean). In CM9 Note does this, but in the new leak it doesn't fade - the area just suddenly appears.
To sum it up, I'm not going back to GB anymore, using Team Rocket ROM now but waiting eagerly for a new release of CM9 by maui.
try the leaked rom ,, its fine and working good and smoth
I've tried Chainfire repack and Midnote. I prefer Midnote - it solved a few things like apps update on every reboot, notification bar prompting for updates and the fingerprint changed to N7000 instead of I9220.
Midnote is the choice! Definitely!
Gona start flashing soon! But im gonna wait for a few weeks for a stable ics rom
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midnote 2.0 running for two days. no issue at all.even some games are working that was not working on gb rom.
MidNote definitely. I tried RR 1.4, 1.5 & Midnote and Midnote was smoother by a mile. Stuff just works too. GPS, Bluetooth, Camera, Videorecorder, Market, Dialer, etc. I did make a bunch of mods, removing apps, adding others e.g. video player (instead of second gallery) Titanium backup also works awesomely.
BTW anyone thinking about coming from GB to ICS DO NOT USE CWM TO FLASH AN ICS ROM OR KERNEL. You must use Mobile Odin or PC Odin (careful of PC version it will raise your binary counter & give you triangle) or else you will not obtain complete root, and it will be a headache and a half to reflash backwards then forwards again.
If you haven't tried it yet here's a video I recorded yesterday showing how smooth Midnote is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v-EomtcS8g&context=C39a7de5ADOEgsToPDskIZbCCmZPM8mIA8w0m27pF4
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midnote 2.0 running for two days. no issue at all.even some games are working that was not working on gb rom.
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Can you give an example of this? Do you mean games that previously couldn't be installed can now be installed?
Thought I'd update.
I haven't tried MidNote so I can't compare but I've been running RR 1.5 and it's fantastic.
Buttery smooth and everything works as intended. Using ADW EX has never been more enjoyable. Used Titanium to remove a lot that I didn't need as well as restore everything and it works without a hitch. I've had solid performance on Wifi too. Bluetooth does seem a touch fickle but that too could be attributed to a low battery on my MBW-150.
The only issues I've had thus far would be that you can't set a wallpaper with forced HW acceleration on and the resolution is reduced when setting the lockscreen wallpaper for some odd reason. Nothing overly major though.
I might try MidNote if I'm really in the mood, but for now I'm pleased with how it's all set up.
I have been using the imilka's TOM and so far I haven't had any big problems. Of course there are some major and minor bugs to be fixed but the de is working really fast on this rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516515
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I have been using the imilka's TOM and so far I haven't had any big problems. Of course there are some major and minor bugs to be fixed but the de is working really fast on this rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1516515
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yup i would have to agree with him. this rom is by far the closest we can get to cm9 or stock ics. it does have minor bugs such as usb file transfer and video player, and few extras, but everything else works flawlessly. camera works, all other apps work, faceunlock, etc, very fast and smooth. he has even made a flashable zip that can transform the note into an actual tablet form. he had some bugs in version 1, but he fixed them in version 2 (and i must say, the developer is really fast). although there are fc bugs in tablet form, but i'm sure he's going to fix them in the next day or two.
i tried cm9 for couple of days, but the lack of camera, usb mount, and some others took me off it.
before imilka's rom, i was on romow v1 ics. it worked pretty well. but as its not really full clean aosp ics, i couldn't deal with it. although it is pretty much ics themed, except the dialer, messaging, and contacts. but it is smooth and stable nonetheless. faceunlock works, which is really cool.
all other roms (midnote, rocket, etc) i can't deal with. the themes are all kinda "in your face" and i hate that. not really sure about the smoothness and stability on those so can't really comment on that as i havent flashing them really. (maybe once or twice to see how it is, but quickly restored to original rom)
by the way, i hope the devs don't take offense. a little criticism never hurts, and opinions matter
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BTW anyone thinking about coming from GB to ICS DO NOT USE CWM TO FLASH AN ICS ROM OR KERNEL. You must use Mobile Odin or PC Odin (careful of PC version it will raise your binary counter & give you triangle) or else you will not obtain complete root, and it will be a headache and a half to reflash backwards then forwards again.
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on a side note, follow this guide if your coming from GB http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1509703
k1ng617 said:
BTW anyone thinking about coming from GB to ICS DO NOT USE CWM TO FLASH AN ICS ROM OR KERNEL. You must use Mobile Odin or PC Odin (careful of PC version it will raise your binary counter & give you triangle) or else you will not obtain complete root, and it will be a headache and a half to reflash backwards then forwards again.
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I used redpill recovery to install midnote - worked great, and I didn't have to mess about with odin.
The step by step instructions in the midnote thread were brilliant.
midnote 2.0 for me is smooth and fast for me, fix some of issue that repack has, weird that they are some minor force close at first few boots after flash, then they are gone later. although fixed at 1.2ghz, it definitely smoother than GB clocked at 1.6ghz... havent tried rocket rom yet, but midnote 2.0 is great for me

GB 2.3.x vs ICS 4.0.X ?

Hello my fellow flashing friends!
Is it me or is ICS a bit overrated ? I tried several ICS roms, and apart from the buggy (video)camera still I admit it's not bad, in fact yes, it's quite good and very smooth. But can anyone give me one good reason why a good ICS rom would be BETTER than a good GB ROM ?
Except for being able to "say" that you are running the latest android version, and a few other transition effects in ICS (ok I know there's a bit more to it but you know what I mean) I don't see what would make ICS the better choice over GB.
So far GB can do everything what ICS can do afaik, in the end probably even better (especially for us DHD users). So tell me your motivations why you would run an ICS rom and not a GB one ?
There are many excellent GB roms such as ARHD, CoreDroid, Runnymede, MIUI roms, CM7, etc that in the end imo outclass the ICS ones a bit still..
The only reason I can think of I'd flash an ICS rom for some while is to have something "different" again, but in the end I seem to get back to the good ol' GB everytime..
So tell me your motivations why you'd go for ICS rom or why for GB rom!
Lol, ICS hasn't even come officially to the DHD so you can't compare official GB and ported ICS, GB is going to be extinct once ICS comes offcially
ARHD for example, is official GB and that's way more smoother and performance/batterywise. So GB for now, ICS when it comes offcially
ICS roms are fully functional on DHD already apart of videocamera ofcourse.. But ok even if we take i.e. a Galaxy Nexus then, what's better about it than the DHD with a smooth GB rom ?
It's just something I am trying to figure out.
I would say jz go for ics. If you doesn't mind the camera, or you've boot manager, you would jz go for ics sense 4 rom, den install a stock ics rom in yr sd card in case u need camera, this is what I do right now.
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I would say jz go for ics. If you doesn't mind the camera, or you've boot manager, you would jz go for ics sense 4 rom, den install a stock ics rom in yr sd card in case u need camera, this is what I do right now.
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Right now using the CM9 rom ported by jcmaddox, with blackened ice theme + htc keyboard + working camera and videocamera (but this one lags a bit in 720p), feels pretty nice. But I'm a Sense addict so from the moment a Sense 4.0 rom is available with working camera I will go for that one probably.
ICS = new, nuff said.
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ICS = new, nuff said.
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Because new is always better ? No, not quite imfo.
I'm using Primo S just now and I love it for the performance. Nenamark scores have tripled. I know benchmarks don't mean that much but games and the phone overall feels much snappier. Also, it's the first ROM that I can just leave wifi and mobile data switched on without running out of charge halfway through the day. overall, it's the best DHD Sense experience I've had so far.
Maxy
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I'm using Primo S just now and I love it for the performance. Nenamark scores have tripled. I know benchmarks don't mean that much but games and the phone overall feels much snappier. Also, it's the first ROM that I can just leave wifi and mobile data switched on without running out of charge halfway through the day. overall, it's the best DHD Sense experience I've had so far.
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What about stock browser (by that, I mean all apps that use the stock browser core too)? I find that it's sluggish compared to GB. In fact, the reviews are in for One V's (Primo S) and they all point to a sluggish web browsing experience with some even saying it locks up for 30 seconds before catching up with processing. I do find that the stock browser in GB is faster than ICS. My wife's SGS2 on the other hand still retains the speed and smoothness of GB stock browser when the phone was upgraded to ICS. I have a feeling HTC has basically relied on AOSP for their webkit whereas Samsung's added their own hw accelerated code to speed it up.
Reason I'm rather particular about the webkit is because a lot of apps use it (e.g. Facebook app) even if you don't use the stock browser.
if you just have to flash a rom as of today... gingerbread big time!
However, many ics innovations (and honeycomb) are developers side. ics brought many new cool features for developing much better applications. And if it's true that iOS fortune is its apps quality and variety, then android is moving in the right direction, giving developers a much better, and appealing environment to work in. So in a not too far future you'll need ics as minimum requirement to run the most cool applications on your android. And they are gonna kick ass, making of your phone an awesome device. till that day you can always stick with gingerbread . do not forget that gingerbread took over froyo as most used android operating system only in december (2011) so most of apps have been developed with that in mind so far. (backward compatibility etc...)
cheers!
personally, since switching to pics from GB, I couldn't imagine running another GB from as my daily. While ICS might not do anything particularly better than GB on the DHD or Inspire, it certainly seems to do all of the things nicer. Simple little features like folders and recent apps windows may not seem that important if you haven't used them, but once you get used to the interface, ICS aosp experience blows GB's out of the water in my opinion. Now if we're talking sense or some other manufacturer overlay it may not be the same, but as far as stock goes I LOVE ics
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What about stock browser (by that, I mean all apps that use the stock browser core too)? I find that it's sluggish compared to GB. In fact, the reviews are in for One V's (Primo S) and they all point to a sluggish web browsing experience with some even saying it locks up for 30 seconds before catching up with processing. I do find that the stock browser in GB is faster than ICS. My wife's SGS2 on the other hand still retains the speed and smoothness of GB stock browser when the phone was upgraded to ICS. I have a feeling HTC has basically relied on AOSP for their webkit whereas Samsung's added their own hw accelerated code to speed it up.
Reason I'm rather particular about the webkit is because a lot of apps use it (e.g. Facebook app) even if you don't use the stock browser.
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I think you're probably right about the stock browser. It isn't quite as responsive as the GB one, but it seems to add some nice functionality. The main shortcoming for me though (and I say this quietly) is the camera, or lack thereof. Will get fixed in due course.
Overall, ICS is actually better than I expected.
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I was an avid user of ARHD before I switched to IceColdSandwich, now I can't turn back. ICS is smoother, faster and has essentially doubled my battery usage from barely a day to two full days.
I tried the One X ports but they have a terrible battery life and lack AOKP's features. ATM I couldn't be happier with ICS.
ICS is great but then there are a few limitation when you try to get ICS on our phone. ICS is fast, smooth and even better with battery but then a GB ROM would probably give you more functional phone.
Basically depends upon whether you can live without those few features. I f you can ICS should be the way to go. There's a slight catch though DHD isnt really the latest of all devices, so devs would concentrate on the development of ROMs for the new devices. (Lord and Twisted both have moved out DHD ICS development scene but there are still a few great devs working), so regular updates would come less often.
and GB is mature and stable (with almost no updates required).
Yeah the stability is a big issue for me as well, my GPS was working perfectly til I switched over to Ice Cold Sandwich on my DHD.
Although I was able to fix it using a patch, I find GB roms have less problems in the internal side of things...
No doubt ICS feels nicer to have on your phone though
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Google Chrome support, folders, smoother, optimized, easier to use. Nuff said
Not to forget HID Support with BT and with Sense
I find that ICS has more to offer feature wise, however I am new to this and haven't had the chance to test many GB ROMs.
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Because new is always better ? No, not quite imfo.
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gimme one reason to choose GB over ICS when sense 4 is fully ported to DHD...
Ics has a lot of new features and is worth it. But i don't see why you made this thread if your shooting down peoples opinions on the matter
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ICS or JB for Tab 7510?

I have been a very satisfied user of Task's GB and now ICS Roms. It seems, however that enhancements to his recent ICS release have stalled. There is some question if any further enhancements will be forthcoming. This is not a terrible thing because the Task "Beginning" ICS release is very stable. On the other hand, I wonder if there is anything out there right now that might improve the way my Tab performs.
With that in mind, I am curious if any of the JB Roms currently in development offer an improved user experience when compared to what I am using now. From what I can tell from reading other threads in this forum, most of the Jellybean releases for the GT7510 still have a few problems, (camera, WIFI, etc.). Is there anything out there that approaches the stability of Task ICS while offering some significant performance enhancements?
I am hopeful that someone with some experience using JB on the GT7510 can offer an opinion.
Thanks in advance.
P7510 owner here so I'll chime in.
For now the benefits of the JB builds don't out weigh the disadvantages associated with the bugs in them. My everyday driver is still the odexed stock rooted ICS. I have Nandroids of CM9 and CM10 builds to putz around with when a new build is built by someone.
Pershoot is going to start concentrating on CM10 though so there should be consistent JB builds soon enough. I would do as I am. Stay on ICS as your daily driver and just keep an eye out on the development scene.
I have been using Maple's AOSP JB rom, and aside from video capture and front facing camera issues, everything is so much better than honeycomb. The only glitches I have encountered besides these are minor screen flicker during boot animation (not during use) and extreme lag when using panorama mode (takes about a minute to process). Since I don't use my camera, this ROM is perfect. Battery life is much better (than honeycomb, at least). Don't have much experience with ICS. Much smoother, and Google now is great. Overall, unless you're a camera heavy user, and the tab has an awful camera, or like Web chats, really no cons.
I'm using this for 2 days now ,0 issues,both cameras work,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32074411
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Depends on your usage.
If you re a Skyper.... Jb roms doesn't fit you. Go for jelly bean ics v6.
Incase you don't use the tab's camera as most of us, and more of a media user, jb is yours. I use my tab for movies during travel time and for books. Jb rom plays even 720p mkv files smoothly. I've never got that performance anywhere.
Incase of stock ics go with a custom kernel with built in tweaks.
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dsafety said:
I have been a very satisfied user of Task's GB and now ICS Roms. It seems, however that enhancements to his recent ICS release have stalled. There is some question if any further enhancements will be forthcoming. This is not a terrible thing because the Task "Beginning" ICS release is very stable. On the other hand, I wonder if there is anything out there right now that might improve the way my Tab performs.
With that in mind, I am curious if any of the JB Roms currently in development offer an improved user experience when compared to what I am using now. From what I can tell from reading other threads in this forum, most of the Jellybean releases for the GT7510 still have a few problems, (camera, WIFI, etc.). Is there anything out there that approaches the stability of Task ICS while offering some significant performance enhancements?
I am hopeful that someone with some experience using JB on the GT7510 can offer an opinion.
Thanks in advance.
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I am one of those that immediately flashed JB AOSP by Maple as soon as it was available, but over the last few months I have grown increasingly dissatisfied with the rom. It's not that the rom is bad, but with the camera still not working and the occasionally bug/glitch that completely locks up my tab when I need it most, I decided a few days ago to go back to one of the ICS roms.
I first went back to Task 650's ics rom which I thought was great, but it seems that development has slowed considerably on that rom, and I could not live with the constant SOD's when charging (for some reason I could not find the "keep awake when charging" setting in the developer options that most other roms have.
So I flashed Ganborous CM9 based rom and I am loving it. Along with the rom, I flashed the Google Now for ICS package, and I also flashed a custom boot animation and now I think this rom is perfect. I haven't had a SOD (it has the developer option to keep awake), and I haven't had my tab lock-up or crash on me.
Once some more development on JB roms occurs (like Pershoots upcoming CM10 or even an update from Maple when/if he gets his Tab fixed) I may go back, but for now I atleast have a rock solid ICS rom with Google Now working.
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I'm AOKP ICS and my tab runs great, no camera's but it's a tablet and I don't use it for the camera. I think mine is milestone 4 and CPU set at 1000 Max 912 Min, I think its 912.
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I could love with the Job rooms if the rear camera didn't work because I don't take pictures with my tab, but not having a front came means that I can't use my tab to video chat or Skype.
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I was a task 14 rom user myself then I made the big jump to aokp milestone 6. Hooked since. My sgs4g is on aokp as well with working camera, love what team kang are doing.

What NativeSD android for games ?

What is the best NativeSD android rom I can use for games ? Currently I'm with Dorimanx high end rom, android 2.3.7 but performance is not good. NFS Most wanted lags badly.
There is no "best rom". And personally I didn't see any difference between NativeSD and NAND. So basically, use any HWA enabled ROM and you should be good to go.
Any ICS or JB rom because of hardware acceleration.
I recommend tytung's cm9 rom, you will gain much in gaming performance, but don't expect any miracles in really demanding games such as new NFS.
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Any ICS or JB rom because of hardware acceleration.
I recommend tytung's cm9 rom, you will gain much in gaming performance, but don't expect any miracles in really demanding games such as new NFS.
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Is this the correct rom you were referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681906 ? I installed the rom but overall performance - swyping through menus, launching apps and etc. seems slower than dormanx gingerbread. Is this common with ICS roms ? I still haven't tried games.
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Is this the correct rom you were referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681906 ? I installed the rom but overall performance - swyping through menus, launching apps and etc. seems slower than dormanx gingerbread. Is this common with ICS roms ? I still haven't tried games.
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He means this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1434860
EmZvr said:
Is this the correct rom you were referring to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681906 ? I installed the rom but overall performance - swyping through menus, launching apps and etc. seems slower than dormanx gingerbread. Is this common with ICS roms ? I still haven't tried games.
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Marvlesz above me has pointed you to the right direction.
As for the ROM you installed, i don't know, never tried it. You could try both of them to see which one fits you better.
Overall performance between GB and ICS should be pretty close, maybe a bit better on GB builds because it's less resource hungry, but on ICS you get some nice stuff like much better gaming performance, smoother web browsing + more.
Installed it. NFS Most Wanted works full speed now or at least a lot better than gingerbread. But again overall performance is not so good. More waiting for menus to show. Not so fluid. Dormanx rom is more fluid and faster with immediate loadings of every app. isn't it there a similar rom to dorimanx with hwa
There is no HWA on Gingerbread, we are very sorry for your disappointment. However, you may like to have a look at our selection of new devices, which have the fluidity of Gingerbread AND the performance of ICS/Jb.
^That's a joke.
Oh well, no games for me then I'm sure I wouldn't play them anyway but I like everything to work properly on my phone. I reverted back to dorimanx rom, thanks for the advices.
I will look at your selection of new devices probably when Ubuntu for phones is out :
Yeah, I personally also find ICS and above slower for everyday use than GB but I just love web browsing with HWA and the Holo UI of JB (not to mention Google Now) so I don't think I'm going to go back to GB any time soon.

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