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Good news:google will make us 2.2 not sony

http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/...-and-carriers-adopt-android-update-guidelines
Google will help sony to update phones that are not on higher platform but they support it
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Really cool! So if Google makes it, I guess it'll be more like AOSP that SE's customized FW...

Blagus said:
Really cool! So if Google makes it, I guess it'll be more like AOSP that SE's customized FW...
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Yes it wil be but there are not sure will be older devices in it
Somewhere writes new somewhere old to.
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haa.. haa... Google will update it?? interesting.. how S.E will respone it...??? may be S.E will say "no.. Mr.Google, if you update X8 who will buy our w8..?"

evilteater said:
haa.. haa... Google will update it?? interesting.. how S.E will respone it...??? may be S.E will say "no.. Mr.Google, if you update X8 who will buy our w8..?"
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Sony is on the list so he need
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seems like someone can't really understand what is he reading. we're not getting the update, and it's not about google giving update, it's about google forcing these companies to update their phones. but only NEW PHONES (read that text carefully, it's written down there), phones that have been just released, and phones that will be released in future. it's not working backwards, older phones ain't getting upgrades. sorry to turn your dreams into a dust. just a little advice - read the whole text, not just the heading, before you start a thread like this - you made ppl excited for no reason. now i have to make their joy go away

wujekandrzej said:
seems like someone can't really understand what is he reading. we're not getting the update, and it's not about google giving update, it's about google forcing these companies to update their phones. but only NEW PHONES (read that text carefully, it's written down there), phones that have been just released, and phones that will be released in future. it's not working backwards, older phones ain't getting upgrades. sorry to turn your dreams into a dust. just a little advice - read the whole text, not just the heading, before you start a thread like this - you made ppl excited for no reason. now i have to make their joy go away
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+1 it also mentioned that they will get updates if hardware is capable, se have already said x8 wont be updated due to insufficient hardware on x8 personally I don't agree but hey what se says goes regarding hardware they manufactured. It really is a shame.
Thank God for racht, ponnovan, jerpela, dioxanh etc etc they make x8 worth buying XD
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furrabbit.nh said:
+1 it also mentioned that they will get updates if hardware is capable, se have already said x8 wont be updated due to insufficient hardware on x8 personally I don't agree but hey what se says goes regarding hardware they manufactured. It really is a shame.
Thank God for racht, ponnovan, jerpela, dioxanh etc etc they make x8 worth buying XD
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Somewhere else writes old phones too and dont forget that sony thinks it will slow diwn our phones not that is hardware not supported and that does not make sense because 2.2 is lighter rom than 2.1
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then "somewhere else" is wrong. and of course, se is talking bull****, but that has nothing to do with it.
anyway, i'm happy with custom roms from our devs, so it's fine.

wujekandrzej said:
then "somewhere else" is wrong. and of course, se is talking bull****, but that has nothing to do with it.
anyway, i'm happy with custom roms from our devs, so it's fine.
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I would always pick cm roms over the stock roms
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as-mario said:
Somewhere else writes old phones too and dont forget that sony thinks it will slow diwn our phones not that is hardware not supported and that does not make sense because 2.2 is lighter rom than 2.1
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Like I said before se have said many times before x8 will not get froyo EVER at the end of the day not us not Google not anyone can make se update x8 to newer versions of android deal with it. X8 is still a great phone with minicm etc etc
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come on all send email to google and others
if we can't update our phone can undo and denigrate the f**ckin SE instead ;

I'm happy with custom roms, cuz everything works fine. We don't need SE to update it
X8 is excellent phone.
And, to substantiate my statement as soon as our devs crack bootloader and fully working Gingerbread is made this phone will get even better. Worth waitng.
Times are tough and a lot of us just can't affort better phone.
P.S.: @as-mario you're troller... read twice before you post... think before you blink!

I have already sent several messages to SE Brazil and the answer is always the same:
"The Sony Ericsson XPERIA X8 will not be updated because it does not meet the requisites of Android 2.3" - or nearly so, but always the same direction of response -> A short NO!
Perhaps with support from Google the story will change, because only the X10 received the upgrade to 2.3 from Sony Ericsson and many users still use their custom ROMS ...
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I bought my E15a because here in Brazil, it is Android and powerful in its price range ...
I wanted to install a custom ROM on my X8, but this news will motivate me to wait for the update .... hehe!
Greetings from Brazil!

Salo-S said:
I wanted to install a custom ROM on my X8, but this news will motivate me to wait for the update .... hehe!
Greetings from Brazil!
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don't hold your breath...

I think we don't even need a SE stock-ROM. Our devs are doing great work!!!

furrabbit.nh said:
I would always pick cm roms over the stock roms
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Me too....few bugs in many cases, but smoothless !

We should sent emails to GooGle android center about our problem. Google can force SE to update our phone. We can make petition to google. We can make petition at least for unlocking bootloader.
Who don't think it's a great idea?
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The news is probably related to new phones.

hope not only newer phone will supported the update

ICS Upgrade

Thought id start this thread to create a bit of build up to the upgrade, im a regular arc user so ive still got another month or so to wait but il feel good if the arc s gets theirs on time, which being the end of march could be any day now. Sony seem to be quiet on this, anyone heard anything?

I'm hoping they release the ICS for arc s by the end of this weekend, the suspense is killing me slowly lol. I check this forum and sony blog post every morning.

As they said late March to early April, that could mean the update would between 15 March and 15 April.

Would love to get an update from SE on the progress for the first phones that are due upgrades.
Clearly feeling a little bit left out now that Samsung are releasing theirs.

Hasn't HTC also updated a device?
Sony is behind - again
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I'm very enthusiastic about ICS too but doesn't it mean that we won't have our devices rooted anymore? I've linked tons of apps via Link2SD and my Arc don't have enough space to hold them all.

I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
But I'm also Excited because lots of optimization and features will be available to us, specially that Adreno 205 Driver will be included(I read it somewhere)

mhyke13ph said:
I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
But I'm also Excited because lots of optimization and features will be available to us, specially that Adreno 205 Driver will be included(I read it somewhere)
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I think otherwise. Almost every app I tried is fully compatible with ICS.
Also, Sony has announced the neo L in China and it launches with ICS on board. It uses the same chipset as the arc (MSM8255). Perhaps we could port it when someone gets and uploads the filesystem dump, that is, if the device comes out sooner than the ICS update.

There's nothing on PTCRB yet and updates usually appear on here well in advance of the update actually being pushed. So it could still be weeks away assuming they haven't had any serious issues they need to fix first. It's been 4 weeks since the beta and not a peep from the Sony devs here on XDA which is a shame.
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=20152

Flo95 said:
Hasn't HTC also updated a device?
Sony is behind - again
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Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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mhyke13ph said:
I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
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I don't think it will be a problem. I also have an Asus Transformer TF101, and that got ICS a few weeks back, no application compatibility problems, and it's REALLY quick (it was quick before anyway).

Poker gypsy said:
Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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Is that all samsung/HTC devices or Nexus devices? I think we should know...

Poker gypsy said:
Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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Never get an update before samsung? Wasn't the Arc the first phone to sport Gingerbread?
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CrazyPeter said:
Would love to get an update from SE on the progress for the first phones that are due upgrades.
Clearly feeling a little bit left out now that Samsung are releasing theirs.
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yeah i agree, in their blog post they stated "Over the next months we will be keeping you up to date on progress and we will also share video demos of the new software running on 2011 Xperia™ smartphones." it doesnt look good....

Probably see it in April, just my safe guess.
I am really looking forward to being able to force gpu acceleration because I don't like scrolling lag

i hope 2011 xperia can still support jelly bean in the future...

By XDA sure, by sony no. I doubt they will release another major update after this. Look at the X10, got gingerbread update and that was it.

xander1993 said:
i hope 2011 xperia can still support jelly bean in the future...
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zed011 said:
By XDA sure, by sony no. I doubt they will release another major update after this. Look at the X10, got gingerbread update and that was it.
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There's 50% chance they will do it and if they do, Jelly Bean will probably be the last major update.

Retardo25 said:
Never get an update before samsung? Wasn't the Arc the first phone to sport Gingerbread?
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Nope it was nexus s
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Nope it was nexus s
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Yea, nexus was first, of course. But I think even you understood my point.
Samsung's fleet was updated later...
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Xperia Arc & Neo ICS Updates released today

Just found this and wanted to share.
Arc & Neo ICS updates out today.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/05/2...eo-android-4-0-ics-updates-start-rolling-out/
On a side note I thought I read somewhere that the Arc is a common ROM to be ported to Xperia PLAY.....this true?
Anyway just sharing.

Yes, it is true.
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Wohoo, this sounds promising, it sounds like my first try to port a ROM ever here, since I really want a ICS-ROM for Xperia Play, but only if the android version is 4.0.4 then, otherwise, it will not get better And after that I will try to get everything to work as well

it seems that the latest Xperia Pro ICS firmware has been leaked!

The sony devs better pray that it runs like crap on our phones because I cant imagine them looking worse than they do right now

If devs port this rom to the Play, get TouchPads working with all the touchpad games and I'll retract every ICS is bad for the Play comment I've made recently
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CTU_Loscombe said:
If devs port this rom to the Play, get TouchPads working with all the touchpad games and I'll retract every ICS is bad for the Play comment I've made recently
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Which is.... pretty much impossible. The dev's need to update the games.
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But we'll need a kernel won't we?
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If it wasn't for the custom roms, I would feel like crap for buying this phone (Xperia Play). At least, there are some decent roms out there.
Anyway, it is a shame that Sony hasn't released, at least, the sources, or have they?

savage24x said:
Which is.... pretty much impossible. The dev's need to update the games.
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I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. We dont need it
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CTU_Loscombe said:
I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. We dont need it
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ICS is great for us who pretty much just use the pad for emulators. Emulators work fine in ICS, and you get all the niceties (sadly the rotation animation is way up there on my list).
I could care less if Sony released an update or not, I'm still able to get a damn fine ICS experience with the aokp rom.

CTU_Loscombe said:
I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. GSM users dont need it
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Fixed.
CDMA users definitely need something.

Xperia PLAY Dying?

Well I'm looking around and I see a lot of empty ness now since Sony cancelled on ics for Play. I have hopes for jelly bean though!
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It's not dying, Sony just dropped support. Development here is still going just fine, albeit a little more slowly

JunDavis said:
Well I'm looking around and I see a lot of empty ness now since Sony cancelled on ics for Play. I have hopes for jelly bean though!
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Since Gameloft and EA said they wont support ICS for play, you dont need hope for JB then.
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It's not dying

not yet, in a hopefully short time a really good kernel will be released (that only works on a few devices yet)
maybe a few roms, but if sony release jb for play development will go faster.
at least sony is testing jb on play

you talk about the 3.0.x kernel of the Kexec topic nick?

nope, something better

nickholtus said:
not yet, in a hopefully short time a really good kernel will be released (that only works on a few devices yet)
maybe a few roms, but if sony release jb for play development will go faster.
at least sony is testing jb on play
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Wat sony is testing jb on play? Any link?
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nope not a link.
inside info.
they are testing it on xperia 2011 and 2012 (i also asked about the play and he said: we are testing it on the play too)
as most games will work on jb (at least more then ics)

nickholtus said:
nope not a link.
inside info.
they are testing it on xperia 2011 and 2012 (i also asked about the play and he said: we are testing it on the play too)
as most games will work on jb (at least more then ics)
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Wow cool stuff. When o repair my play in june there will be a lot of cool stuff to try
Did you ask about P/Sola aswell?
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not directly but they said: xperia 2012 line
so that's also the P and Sola

No offense, but I'm not taking the word of a forum poster who spoke to "a guy at Sony" that jb is being tested on the Play. The truth is this phone is in the process of being dropped by Sony, in fact I doubt its even being manufactured anymore. They have it working as is, and they have a whole new product line out there. JB is NOT coming to the Play.

then they can still testing it!
jb does only recommend 512mb ram where ics recommend 1024mb ram
for games much better!
project butter makes it even better for games!
but if you don't want to believe me, then you don't

nickholtus said:
then they can still testing it!
jb does only recommend 512mb ram where ics recommend 1024mb ram
for games much better!
project butter makes it even better for games!
but if you don't want to believe me, then you don't
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ICS recommended 512mb, as does JB
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lol, then i misreaded
but then still jb run games smoother the ics and it will run more games

nickholtus said:
lol, then i misreaded
but then still jb run games smoother the ics and it will run more games
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Also, butter is the UI and some of the SDK. Most apps in ICS run in GB compatibility mode, so won't use the jb optimizations
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A friend of mine recently got a Nexus and when he got it it had ICS and wouldnt run any GL games, now with JB he is running MC3 and several other GL games without any issues.... I never left GB as I game way too much but if JB ever came out and it worked for R800x (highly doubtful) then I might consider switching. Until then I will forever be on 2.3.3 (thank you VZ for the 2.3.4 train wreck you released)
Anyways, I am crossing my fingers for some news..... even if never switch to it.

ozzmanj1 said:
A friend of mine recently got a Nexus and when he got it it had ICS and wouldnt run any GL games, now with JB he is running MC3 and several other GL games without any issues.... I never left GB as I game way too much but if JB ever came out and it worked for R800x (highly doubtful) then I might consider switching. Until then I will forever be on 2.3.3 (thank you VZ for the 2.3.4 train wreck you released)
Anyways, I am crossing my fingers for some news..... even if never switch to it.
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The GL issue sounds like a bug in the system that was ironed out in Jelly Bean, speaking as a Nexus user
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Sony, All we need is some Alpha/Beta of jelly bean WITH touchpad support, We can do the rest lol.

Unlikely us poor Verizon folks will ever get anything better than 2.3.3. It's time to drop big red, I think.
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you know what grinds my gears?... the xperia E!

I am a little upset that the xperia E comes with official Android 4.1 JB having less specs then the xperia play and they get jellybean! not ICS straight to jellybean! both specs are identical but the xperia E has a lower Gpu and internal memory AND STILL! I understand that sony said that they wanted to leave this phone as a gaming phone but at least make it a optional update on your own risk or something

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I am a little upset that the xperia E comes with official Android 4.1 JB having less specs then the xperia play and they get jellybean! not ICS straight to jellybean! both specs are identical but the xperia E has a lower Gpu and internal memory AND STILL! I understand that sony said that they wanted to leave this phone as a gaming phone but at least make it a optional update on your own risk or something
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Yeah it sucks that we dont get it and we didnt even get ics (i dont count the beta because of all its bugs) but there was a rumored release for it a while ago could this be it? :sly:
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I think the problem is even if Sony released JB for our phone game development would still be slowing down like it has been lately. Plus all the older XPO releases like asphalt 6 and star battalion wouldn't work. Not like a lot of people play those. I still do. Is it possible to utilize some aspects of the xperia e's firmware?
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ozzmanj1 said:
I think the problem is even if Sony released JB for our phone game development would still be slowing down like it has been lately. Plus all the older XPO releases like asphalt 6 and star battalion wouldn't work. Not like a lot of people play those. I still do. Is it possible to utilize some aspects of the xperia e's firmware?
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thats why i say at your own risk, for people who might not want to game in the xperia play

Wouldn't be the first time a weaker phone got a newer FW than Xperia Play... we've already established that the reason Xperia Play didn't get ICS/JB was because it would throw the software compatibility way off.
If you want a good example of how bad it would've been, just look at all Evo V owners who are in an absolute fury because the vast majority of 3D games were made to operate under 2.3. The way I see it, Sony did the smart thing by opting for a more stable ecosystem.

The thing is that a lot of app developers are abandoning gb, and making apps for 4.0+, even Google them self, example, chrome browser a great browser but not for gb.
I'd even settle for a decent official ics from Sony, I mean the developers here are doing a better job than them
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The Xperia Play has a Scorpion S2 CPU, it's old. The Xperia E is a Cortex A5. Scorpion might be faster in raw flops but the A5 has more features. Snapdragon is quite poor by today's standards and the Xperia E will probably beat it in many ways.
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The thing is that a lot of app developers are abandoning gb, and making apps for 4.0+, even Google them self, example, chrome browser a great browser but not for gb.
I'd even settle for a decent official ics from Sony, I mean the developers here are doing a better job than them
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They don't do it on purpose. 2.x API just doesn't support anywhere near as much as 3.0+.

CosmicDan said:
The Xperia Play has a Scorpion S2 CPU, it's old. The Xperia E is a Cortex A5. Scorpion might be faster in raw flops but the A5 has more features. Snapdragon is quite poor by today's standards and the Xperia E will probably beat it in many ways.
They don't do it on purpose. 2.x API just doesn't support anywhere near as much as 3.0+.
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Hey dan!
and i see what you mean by the differences, i seen some benchmarks

I am going to admit many people know more about the inner workings of hardware. But I am sure that with the xperia e's 320x240 resolution also helps in benchmarks as it's not having to push as much in terms of resolution. Although I know that is only one aspect of a bigger picture.
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My friend has an Xperia J which is running on stock ICS and I can tell you it is laggy as hell, my phone with Krisdee's Hybrid ROM is much more stable. I know this has nothing to do with the Xperia E but Xperia J has similar hardware as our Xperia Play. Maybe he has a faulty device, I don't know.

Us modders have done a great job in making ics work well on Xperia play
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Mocket said:
My friend has an Xperia J which is running on stock ICS and I can tell you it is laggy as hell, my phone with Krisdee's Hybrid ROM is much more stable. I know this has nothing to do with the Xperia E but Xperia J has similar hardware as our Xperia Play. Maybe he has a faulty device, I don't know.
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My friend also has xperia j and yeah, it is laggy
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Haha off topic but I love how you titled that
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crazymonkey05 said:
Haha off topic but I love how you titled that
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Family Guy.......?
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ozzmanj1 said:
Family Guy.......?
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Yea lol
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xdarkmario said:
Yea lol
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Before I bring it back on topic. Here's a test xdarkmario. What FG moment has this line.
"Knuckle babies"
Okay back on topic of xperia e
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ozzmanj1 said:
Before I bring it back on topic. Here's a test xdarkmario. What FG moment has this line.
"Knuckle babies"
Okay back on topic of xperia e
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hmmm.... not sure

xdarkmario said:
hmmm.... not sure
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Its one Peters rants when he is at the movie store and Tom Tucker walks in asking for 18+ videos and the clerk tells him they don't allow 18+ movies. Peter goes off on a rant about 18+ videos and "fire off some knuckle babies"
Okay..back to topic.
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Ahh lol just got it lol
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We all know what is the real problem.... we don't have an option for buying an xperia play 2 sony failed the smartphone gamming community...
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