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ICS Upgrade

Thought id start this thread to create a bit of build up to the upgrade, im a regular arc user so ive still got another month or so to wait but il feel good if the arc s gets theirs on time, which being the end of march could be any day now. Sony seem to be quiet on this, anyone heard anything?

I'm hoping they release the ICS for arc s by the end of this weekend, the suspense is killing me slowly lol. I check this forum and sony blog post every morning.

As they said late March to early April, that could mean the update would between 15 March and 15 April.

Would love to get an update from SE on the progress for the first phones that are due upgrades.
Clearly feeling a little bit left out now that Samsung are releasing theirs.

Hasn't HTC also updated a device?
Sony is behind - again
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I'm very enthusiastic about ICS too but doesn't it mean that we won't have our devices rooted anymore? I've linked tons of apps via Link2SD and my Arc don't have enough space to hold them all.

I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
But I'm also Excited because lots of optimization and features will be available to us, specially that Adreno 205 Driver will be included(I read it somewhere)

mhyke13ph said:
I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
But I'm also Excited because lots of optimization and features will be available to us, specially that Adreno 205 Driver will be included(I read it somewhere)
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I think otherwise. Almost every app I tried is fully compatible with ICS.
Also, Sony has announced the neo L in China and it launches with ICS on board. It uses the same chipset as the arc (MSM8255). Perhaps we could port it when someone gets and uploads the filesystem dump, that is, if the device comes out sooner than the ICS update.

There's nothing on PTCRB yet and updates usually appear on here well in advance of the update actually being pushed. So it could still be weeks away assuming they haven't had any serious issues they need to fix first. It's been 4 weeks since the beta and not a peep from the Sony devs here on XDA which is a shame.
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=20152

Flo95 said:
Hasn't HTC also updated a device?
Sony is behind - again
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Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
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I don't think it will be a problem. I also have an Asus Transformer TF101, and that got ICS a few weeks back, no application compatibility problems, and it's REALLY quick (it was quick before anyway).

Poker gypsy said:
Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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Is that all samsung/HTC devices or Nexus devices? I think we should know...

Poker gypsy said:
Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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Never get an update before samsung? Wasn't the Arc the first phone to sport Gingerbread?
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CrazyPeter said:
Would love to get an update from SE on the progress for the first phones that are due upgrades.
Clearly feeling a little bit left out now that Samsung are releasing theirs.
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yeah i agree, in their blog post they stated "Over the next months we will be keeping you up to date on progress and we will also share video demos of the new software running on 2011 Xperia™ smartphones." it doesnt look good....

Probably see it in April, just my safe guess.
I am really looking forward to being able to force gpu acceleration because I don't like scrolling lag

i hope 2011 xperia can still support jelly bean in the future...

By XDA sure, by sony no. I doubt they will release another major update after this. Look at the X10, got gingerbread update and that was it.

xander1993 said:
i hope 2011 xperia can still support jelly bean in the future...
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zed011 said:
By XDA sure, by sony no. I doubt they will release another major update after this. Look at the X10, got gingerbread update and that was it.
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There's 50% chance they will do it and if they do, Jelly Bean will probably be the last major update.

Retardo25 said:
Never get an update before samsung? Wasn't the Arc the first phone to sport Gingerbread?
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Nope it was nexus s
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Nope it was nexus s
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Yea, nexus was first, of course. But I think even you understood my point.
Samsung's fleet was updated later...
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Xperia Arc & Neo ICS Updates released today

Just found this and wanted to share.
Arc & Neo ICS updates out today.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/05/2...eo-android-4-0-ics-updates-start-rolling-out/
On a side note I thought I read somewhere that the Arc is a common ROM to be ported to Xperia PLAY.....this true?
Anyway just sharing.

Yes, it is true.
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Wohoo, this sounds promising, it sounds like my first try to port a ROM ever here, since I really want a ICS-ROM for Xperia Play, but only if the android version is 4.0.4 then, otherwise, it will not get better And after that I will try to get everything to work as well

it seems that the latest Xperia Pro ICS firmware has been leaked!

The sony devs better pray that it runs like crap on our phones because I cant imagine them looking worse than they do right now

If devs port this rom to the Play, get TouchPads working with all the touchpad games and I'll retract every ICS is bad for the Play comment I've made recently
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CTU_Loscombe said:
If devs port this rom to the Play, get TouchPads working with all the touchpad games and I'll retract every ICS is bad for the Play comment I've made recently
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Which is.... pretty much impossible. The dev's need to update the games.
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But we'll need a kernel won't we?
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If it wasn't for the custom roms, I would feel like crap for buying this phone (Xperia Play). At least, there are some decent roms out there.
Anyway, it is a shame that Sony hasn't released, at least, the sources, or have they?

savage24x said:
Which is.... pretty much impossible. The dev's need to update the games.
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I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. We dont need it
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CTU_Loscombe said:
I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. We dont need it
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ICS is great for us who pretty much just use the pad for emulators. Emulators work fine in ICS, and you get all the niceties (sadly the rotation animation is way up there on my list).
I could care less if Sony released an update or not, I'm still able to get a damn fine ICS experience with the aokp rom.

CTU_Loscombe said:
I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. GSM users dont need it
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Fixed.
CDMA users definitely need something.

Vodafone Australia promises Nexus S Jelly Bean .....read on.....

So this has me thinking..... Nexus S is similerly specs to the Xperia PLAY and it will be getting Jelly Bean...man... For those curios unless games work great on ICS and or JB I will stick with GB as it offers, currently, the most compatibility. Still though.. if the Nexus S can get it the nwhy not the PLAY. Clearly $ony has moved on and has forgotten about our awesome little gaming phone.... guess its JB or waiting until later today to see what the supposed new ZTE Gaming phone is all about.... peace ya'll
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/18/nexus-s-jelly-bean-vodafone-australia/

Devs will make it happen though

Isn't it cause games wouldn't work as well otherwise?
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KindaUndisputed said:
Isn't it cause games wouldn't work as well otherwise?
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Thats why i am still on GB and dont plan on moving to ICS. Most games are not opimized to work on ICS.

The ZTE smart phone doesn't even have a gamepad. Also only a tegra 2 processor. Bit dated. On the plus side, it is cheap though, only £189.99
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source please.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2192512/zte-announces-a-budget-grand-x-gaming-smartphone
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a gaming phone with touch controls aint a gaming phone...

The one X is far superior
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Motawa88 said:
a gaming phone with touch controls aint a gaming phone...
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Agreed. Gaming is with a gamepad. Not a touchscreen.
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http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2192512/zte-announces-a-budget-grand-x-gaming-smartphone
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THATS A GAMING PHONE!!!!!! Ummmmmm....yeah..OK. I will keep my awesome xperia play thank you very much. I was thinking it would have a slide out game pad. But a touchscreen for gaming....as all PLAY users will comment.. touchscreen gaming blows.... I'm starting to sound like TLRtheory. its OK though he's cool
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i just really hope that jelly bean gets ported well to the play with project butter and stuff... + the gaming (at least emulators) works as good as with gingerbread... but i dont think its gonna happen :/

Due to project butter, jellybean seems like a major change from ICS, more so than gingerbread to ICS (not in terms of appearance)
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ZTE pretty much excited us for no reason
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KindaUndisputed said:
ZTE pretty much excited us for no reason
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I would have to agree. Its not a gaming phone unless its got a good control scheme hardware wise
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Not much to do with the play

jgregoryj1 said:
THATS A GAMING PHONE!!!!!! Ummmmmm....yeah..OK. I will keep my awesome xperia play thank you very much. I was thinking it would have a slide out game pad. But a touchscreen for gaming....as all PLAY users will comment.. touchscreen gaming blows.... I'm starting to sound like TLRtheory. its OK though he's cool
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Yeah! Looks like we will never get something that will replace our SE-XPLAYS!!!! Shame really thought we might be seeing some Tegra 3, GamePad love! But hey! Its not like we have ever had our hopes and dreams smashed before now is it!

Wasn't ever going to happen. Anyway, doesn't Sony have the patent for physical gamepad in a phone?

i heard that JB only needs 512 of ram. Does it mean that it will probably run better as ICS did?

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Nexus S is similerly specs to the Xperia PLAY and it will be getting Jelly Bean...[...] if the Nexus S can get it the nwhy not the PLAY.
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Oh god, not this again.
The reason that the Xperia Play is not getting ICS is not because its hardware!!!!
READ THE FOLLOWING LINES PLEASE!
The reason because the Xperia Play won't get ICS goes like this:
1- Sony launches the Xperia Play.
2- Some months later, some developers like Rockstar Games and EA make some outsanding games compatible with the Xperia Play (GTAIII, Dead Space...) wich helps a lot on the sales of this smartphone.
3- Sony, wich plans to update the Xperia Play to ICS like the other Xperias from 2011, launches a beta of ICS for the Xperia Play in order to allow people to test how their apps and games run on the new version of Android.
4- The beta works great on the phone, but some games like GTA III and other important titles don't run well. These games need to be updated to work correctly on the ICS for the Xperia Play.
5- Rockstar, EA and others refuse to update their games for the Xperia Play.
6- Sony, with no option, doesn't want to lose the most important titles of the Xperia Play and decides to not update the device.
END.

you know what grinds my gears?... the xperia E!

I am a little upset that the xperia E comes with official Android 4.1 JB having less specs then the xperia play and they get jellybean! not ICS straight to jellybean! both specs are identical but the xperia E has a lower Gpu and internal memory AND STILL! I understand that sony said that they wanted to leave this phone as a gaming phone but at least make it a optional update on your own risk or something

xdarkmario said:
I am a little upset that the xperia E comes with official Android 4.1 JB having less specs then the xperia play and they get jellybean! not ICS straight to jellybean! both specs are identical but the xperia E has a lower Gpu and internal memory AND STILL! I understand that sony said that they wanted to leave this phone as a gaming phone but at least make it a optional update on your own risk or something
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Yeah it sucks that we dont get it and we didnt even get ics (i dont count the beta because of all its bugs) but there was a rumored release for it a while ago could this be it? :sly:
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I think the problem is even if Sony released JB for our phone game development would still be slowing down like it has been lately. Plus all the older XPO releases like asphalt 6 and star battalion wouldn't work. Not like a lot of people play those. I still do. Is it possible to utilize some aspects of the xperia e's firmware?
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ozzmanj1 said:
I think the problem is even if Sony released JB for our phone game development would still be slowing down like it has been lately. Plus all the older XPO releases like asphalt 6 and star battalion wouldn't work. Not like a lot of people play those. I still do. Is it possible to utilize some aspects of the xperia e's firmware?
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thats why i say at your own risk, for people who might not want to game in the xperia play

Wouldn't be the first time a weaker phone got a newer FW than Xperia Play... we've already established that the reason Xperia Play didn't get ICS/JB was because it would throw the software compatibility way off.
If you want a good example of how bad it would've been, just look at all Evo V owners who are in an absolute fury because the vast majority of 3D games were made to operate under 2.3. The way I see it, Sony did the smart thing by opting for a more stable ecosystem.

The thing is that a lot of app developers are abandoning gb, and making apps for 4.0+, even Google them self, example, chrome browser a great browser but not for gb.
I'd even settle for a decent official ics from Sony, I mean the developers here are doing a better job than them
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The Xperia Play has a Scorpion S2 CPU, it's old. The Xperia E is a Cortex A5. Scorpion might be faster in raw flops but the A5 has more features. Snapdragon is quite poor by today's standards and the Xperia E will probably beat it in many ways.
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The thing is that a lot of app developers are abandoning gb, and making apps for 4.0+, even Google them self, example, chrome browser a great browser but not for gb.
I'd even settle for a decent official ics from Sony, I mean the developers here are doing a better job than them
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They don't do it on purpose. 2.x API just doesn't support anywhere near as much as 3.0+.

CosmicDan said:
The Xperia Play has a Scorpion S2 CPU, it's old. The Xperia E is a Cortex A5. Scorpion might be faster in raw flops but the A5 has more features. Snapdragon is quite poor by today's standards and the Xperia E will probably beat it in many ways.
They don't do it on purpose. 2.x API just doesn't support anywhere near as much as 3.0+.
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Hey dan!
and i see what you mean by the differences, i seen some benchmarks

I am going to admit many people know more about the inner workings of hardware. But I am sure that with the xperia e's 320x240 resolution also helps in benchmarks as it's not having to push as much in terms of resolution. Although I know that is only one aspect of a bigger picture.
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My friend has an Xperia J which is running on stock ICS and I can tell you it is laggy as hell, my phone with Krisdee's Hybrid ROM is much more stable. I know this has nothing to do with the Xperia E but Xperia J has similar hardware as our Xperia Play. Maybe he has a faulty device, I don't know.

Us modders have done a great job in making ics work well on Xperia play
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Mocket said:
My friend has an Xperia J which is running on stock ICS and I can tell you it is laggy as hell, my phone with Krisdee's Hybrid ROM is much more stable. I know this has nothing to do with the Xperia E but Xperia J has similar hardware as our Xperia Play. Maybe he has a faulty device, I don't know.
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My friend also has xperia j and yeah, it is laggy
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Haha off topic but I love how you titled that
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crazymonkey05 said:
Haha off topic but I love how you titled that
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Family Guy.......?
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ozzmanj1 said:
Family Guy.......?
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Yea lol
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xdarkmario said:
Yea lol
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Before I bring it back on topic. Here's a test xdarkmario. What FG moment has this line.
"Knuckle babies"
Okay back on topic of xperia e
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ozzmanj1 said:
Before I bring it back on topic. Here's a test xdarkmario. What FG moment has this line.
"Knuckle babies"
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hmmm.... not sure

xdarkmario said:
hmmm.... not sure
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Its one Peters rants when he is at the movie store and Tom Tucker walks in asking for 18+ videos and the clerk tells him they don't allow 18+ movies. Peter goes off on a rant about 18+ videos and "fire off some knuckle babies"
Okay..back to topic.
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Ahh lol just got it lol
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We all know what is the real problem.... we don't have an option for buying an xperia play 2 sony failed the smartphone gamming community...
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think KitKat 4.4 is possible in X8?

Okay! newest version of Android 4.4 has been released and its the most feature packed Android yet! as always
things! we as X8 user need to NOTE is the latest iteration of the Android has been super optimized
and able to run on a phone with lesser Resources that than JellyBean has to require, possible on a phone
with minimum RAM of 512MB, but we X8 user magically able to run Jellybean unofficially in form of CM10 created by our legends
that requires more resources than current KitKat. If we look at the X8's resources and side by side comparison
between Jellybean and KitKat, Theoretically we able to run KitKat much faster,smoother,responsive in our X8.
So if all the previous great and experienced developer hands on X8 again could we enjoy KitKat inside this
tiny device and extends its Development Community life?
or
JellyBean is the last for X8

it's not possible becasue Xperia X8 is too old and too weak for android 4.4 KitKat and there is someone to be finished built rom and kernel in my opinion.

Ya I agree x8 is too old, but in my opinion if we have the great past developer's and vibrant community again, we eventually could get it since logically 4.4 is very lightweight compared to current jelly bean, even galaxy nexus don't get Android 4.4 but anything possible in development community
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Theoretically its possible. Here's what we need
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Ya I agree x8 is too old, but in my opinion if we have the great past developer's and vibrant community again, we eventually could get it since logically 4.4 is very lightweight compared to current jelly bean, even galaxy nexus don't get Android 4.4 but anything possible in development community
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1st of all an experienced developer who can work on the rom like nAa!
2nd - a kernel (something like the performance of alfs kernel) from good sources.
3rd -many people have ditched their x8. i still have it. so the remaining people should become testers.
I have played with kitkat and it is just awesome!!!

95mediatech said:
Ya I agree x8 is too old, but in my opinion if we have the great past developer's and vibrant community again, we eventually could get it since logically 4.4 is very lightweight compared to current jelly bean, even galaxy nexus don't get Android 4.4 but anything possible in development community
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Yes we have great developers but, can not work as a team that was able to work together.

Sorry to say, but now we have great and RETIRED developers. All developers who made significant things in the x8 section now not working or working with newer phones. nAa and dx stopped everything, alfs looks like also inactive, daveee10 busy with his real work (and he have a galaxy s3, so probably he will not return).
Only few member try to make something new (for example afi1982 try to build 4.2, but not 4.4), and few modders active now...

I have Xperia Z and if I don't manage to get cm10.1 on our beloved x8 then it's time for me to move on..

In my opinion ĆM10.1 is to high for X8, whe have ĆM10 and it's TOO MUĆH really. Better save some money and buy phone like Xperia J, it's better idea than waste time for dev for legendery phone and dusted phone in old users

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In my opinion ĆM10.1 is to high for X8, whe have ĆM10 and it's TOO MUĆH really. Better save some money and buy phone like Xperia J, it's better idea than waste time for dev for legendery phone and dusted phone in old users
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cm10.1 is running much better on my device then cm10.

afi1982: cm10.1 faster than CM10 on xperia x8 ?

hubert123454 said:
afi1982: cm10.1 faster than CM10 on xperia x8 ?
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yes

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yes
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So... im now ćlose my faće.

afi1982: I'll be waiting for CM 10.1

I observed that too.
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afi1982: cm10.1 faster than CM10 on xperia x8 ?
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i noticed that on other phones like Galaxy Grand and others. Android 4.2.2 is way faster and smoother than 4.2.1 .
Please provide the rom soon. MINICM7 though fast , is really boring.
Also which kernel are you using it with? and how much free ram are you getting? I hated 4.2.1 keyboard because it always showed a pop up when adding words. I hope 4.2.2 doesnt have that problem.
I'd like to help with testing working builds

tsinghxda said:
i noticed that on other phones like Galaxy Grand and others. Android 4.2.2 is way faster and smoother than 4.2.1 .
Please provide the rom soon. MINICM7 though fast , is really boring.
Also which kernel are you using it with? and how much free ram are you getting? I hated 4.2.1 keyboard because it always showed a pop up when adding words. I hope 4.2.2 doesnt have that problem.
I'd like to help with testing working builds
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for now i'm using my jb kernel .

Do tell me or post it here once its stable.
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for now i'm using my jb kernel .
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We'd all like to try it out. Hope it is better than minicm10.

Guys, moto g is out, it doesnt cost too much and its a good phone. Move to it if you dont have much money ??
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ElmirBuljubasic said:
Guys, moto g is out, it doesnt cost too much and its a good phone. Move to it if you dont have much money ??
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Lol you kidding it's doesn't have a huge history like X8 had, it's a new Android buddy.
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Or just xperia J
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afi1982 said:
for now i'm using my jb kernel .
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Afi bro! You doing really great job now even 10.1 is possible for Xperia x8, my point is if a Jellybean able to run on X8 why not the super optimised KitKat which requires lesser RAM than Jellybean. I know really need lot's of hard coding, and kernel modifications. But it's that KitKat running in a newer Linux kernel?
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