I am a little upset that the xperia E comes with official Android 4.1 JB having less specs then the xperia play and they get jellybean! not ICS straight to jellybean! both specs are identical but the xperia E has a lower Gpu and internal memory AND STILL! I understand that sony said that they wanted to leave this phone as a gaming phone but at least make it a optional update on your own risk or something
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I am a little upset that the xperia E comes with official Android 4.1 JB having less specs then the xperia play and they get jellybean! not ICS straight to jellybean! both specs are identical but the xperia E has a lower Gpu and internal memory AND STILL! I understand that sony said that they wanted to leave this phone as a gaming phone but at least make it a optional update on your own risk or something
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Yeah it sucks that we dont get it and we didnt even get ics (i dont count the beta because of all its bugs) but there was a rumored release for it a while ago could this be it? :sly:
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I think the problem is even if Sony released JB for our phone game development would still be slowing down like it has been lately. Plus all the older XPO releases like asphalt 6 and star battalion wouldn't work. Not like a lot of people play those. I still do. Is it possible to utilize some aspects of the xperia e's firmware?
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I think the problem is even if Sony released JB for our phone game development would still be slowing down like it has been lately. Plus all the older XPO releases like asphalt 6 and star battalion wouldn't work. Not like a lot of people play those. I still do. Is it possible to utilize some aspects of the xperia e's firmware?
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thats why i say at your own risk, for people who might not want to game in the xperia play
Wouldn't be the first time a weaker phone got a newer FW than Xperia Play... we've already established that the reason Xperia Play didn't get ICS/JB was because it would throw the software compatibility way off.
If you want a good example of how bad it would've been, just look at all Evo V owners who are in an absolute fury because the vast majority of 3D games were made to operate under 2.3. The way I see it, Sony did the smart thing by opting for a more stable ecosystem.
The thing is that a lot of app developers are abandoning gb, and making apps for 4.0+, even Google them self, example, chrome browser a great browser but not for gb.
I'd even settle for a decent official ics from Sony, I mean the developers here are doing a better job than them
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The Xperia Play has a Scorpion S2 CPU, it's old. The Xperia E is a Cortex A5. Scorpion might be faster in raw flops but the A5 has more features. Snapdragon is quite poor by today's standards and the Xperia E will probably beat it in many ways.
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The thing is that a lot of app developers are abandoning gb, and making apps for 4.0+, even Google them self, example, chrome browser a great browser but not for gb.
I'd even settle for a decent official ics from Sony, I mean the developers here are doing a better job than them
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They don't do it on purpose. 2.x API just doesn't support anywhere near as much as 3.0+.
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The Xperia Play has a Scorpion S2 CPU, it's old. The Xperia E is a Cortex A5. Scorpion might be faster in raw flops but the A5 has more features. Snapdragon is quite poor by today's standards and the Xperia E will probably beat it in many ways.
They don't do it on purpose. 2.x API just doesn't support anywhere near as much as 3.0+.
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Hey dan!
and i see what you mean by the differences, i seen some benchmarks
I am going to admit many people know more about the inner workings of hardware. But I am sure that with the xperia e's 320x240 resolution also helps in benchmarks as it's not having to push as much in terms of resolution. Although I know that is only one aspect of a bigger picture.
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My friend has an Xperia J which is running on stock ICS and I can tell you it is laggy as hell, my phone with Krisdee's Hybrid ROM is much more stable. I know this has nothing to do with the Xperia E but Xperia J has similar hardware as our Xperia Play. Maybe he has a faulty device, I don't know.
Us modders have done a great job in making ics work well on Xperia play
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My friend has an Xperia J which is running on stock ICS and I can tell you it is laggy as hell, my phone with Krisdee's Hybrid ROM is much more stable. I know this has nothing to do with the Xperia E but Xperia J has similar hardware as our Xperia Play. Maybe he has a faulty device, I don't know.
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My friend also has xperia j and yeah, it is laggy
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Haha off topic but I love how you titled that
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Haha off topic but I love how you titled that
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Family Guy.......?
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Family Guy.......?
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Yea lol
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Yea lol
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Before I bring it back on topic. Here's a test xdarkmario. What FG moment has this line.
"Knuckle babies"
Okay back on topic of xperia e
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Before I bring it back on topic. Here's a test xdarkmario. What FG moment has this line.
"Knuckle babies"
Okay back on topic of xperia e
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hmmm.... not sure
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hmmm.... not sure
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Its one Peters rants when he is at the movie store and Tom Tucker walks in asking for 18+ videos and the clerk tells him they don't allow 18+ movies. Peter goes off on a rant about 18+ videos and "fire off some knuckle babies"
Okay..back to topic.
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Ahh lol just got it lol
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We all know what is the real problem.... we don't have an option for buying an xperia play 2 sony failed the smartphone gamming community...
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My main requirement is gaming,music and good application support.Which will be better of the two.
I wouldn't get the play. From what I've read, and from what people have told me, the screen is terrible...that being said, go with another android phone! The samsung galaxy s2 is one of the highest rated phones I've ever seen. reviews have been insanely good
Xperia play!!!
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I wouldn't get the play. From what I've read, and from what people have told me, the screen is terrible...that being said, go with another android phone! The samsung galaxy s2 is one of the highest rated phones I've ever seen. reviews have been insanely good
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I have the play in the MediaMarkt tested and the screen was actually very good.
But I would much prefer the GalaxyS2, because its a very cool phone.
I've tried the play, yes, the screen could be better, but its better than X10's, and the gaming controls are just awesome! (and I don't even game)
Get an Xperia arc
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Sgs 2. You can't go wrong with it.
Of the two : depends on what you need. If you require smooth fast ui go for the iPhone. Otherwise go for the play.
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Get an Xperia arc
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fk that....
if you were going to do that just keep your x10.
The processor in that is already outdated.
fiscidtox said:
fk that....
if you were going to do that just keep your x10.
The processor in that is already outdated.
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I agree once we get gb and a more stable cust kern the arc couldnt compare
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Unless someone was just dying to have hdmi out..
Angry birds on HDTV LOL
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Unless someone was just dying to have hdmi out..
Angry birds on HDTV LOL
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i agree.........hdmi is whyat i want but i guess i can live without
No the arc is definitely on par and can surpass the sgs 2 in many areas
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No the arc is definitely on par and can surpass the sgs 2 in many areas
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LOL
what areas would those be?
None?
Outdated processor, worse screen, etc....
Better camera maybe (I even doubt that, the new sgs2 camera is supposedly awesome).
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/30/sony-ericsson-xperia-arc-review/
vs.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
Does anyone know of the specific update date.. Everyone is saying it's near the end of may. We are near the end of may and still no update!
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Thats cause we do not know the exactly date for the update, sony said end may and beginning of june.
and sorry but the 21th. is not the end of may so stay calm
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Does anyone know of the specific update date.. Everyone is saying it's near the end of may. We are near the end of may and still no update!
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Unlock your bootloader and flash an ICS rom. Better than having the standard crap Sony Ericsson skin ruining the phone.
As an added bonus, all the best games i.e SNES emulators, work
Getting the Play for Android games is a waste of a gamepad........
Ics on r800 doesnt support bt headphones :c
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there are rumors the play won't get ics due to some memory issue
no mentions at sony though lets be optimistic
Sony: It's gonna be on Late Feb / Early Apr. Lol nope.
Sony: It will surely be on Late Apr / Early May. Lol wait more.
Sony: It's officially on Late May / Early June. Lol, don't remember that.
Hope Sony won't push the update until the end of 2012.
Hopefully all the games we love are compatible wth that updte.. Bt thts unlikely to hppen..
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Unlock your bootloader and flash an ICS rom. Better than having the standard crap Sony Ericsson skin ruining the phone.
As an added bonus, all the best games i.e SNES emulators, work
Getting the Play for Android games is a waste of a gamepad........
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i thought about this, iwas looking through some roms and i said to my self " should i install a ICS Rom or wait for official update from sony"
when i unlock my bootloader and flash the rom if i want to revert all i have to do is flash custom rom and relock bootloader?
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i thought about this, iwas looking through some roms and i said to my self " should i install a ICS Rom or wait for official update from sony"
when i unlock my bootloader and flash the rom if i want to revert all i have to do is flash custom rom and relock bootloader?
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Yeah. Trust me though, the best ICS rom to flash for the Play is AOKP
Now it has theme support so its possibly the best ICS rom in terms of customization
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667309
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1667309
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Lots of info, but its all speculation at this point
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I'm guessing this is a no go but is there any ICS ROM FOR the Play for people on Stock Kernel? (locked Boot loader due to carrier restriction)
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I'm guessing this is a no go but is there any ICS ROM FOR the Play for people on Stock Kernel? (locked Boot loader due to carrier restriction)
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Unfortunately not friend. ICS roms require an ICS kernel
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http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/upgrade-to-android-4/
Play isn't on the list guys
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Unfortunately not friend. ICS roms require an ICS kernel
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Thanks, I guess I'll be waiting for some modded and skinned Stock 4.0.3 ROMs then...when and if it comes out
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http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/upgrade-to-android-4/
Play isn't on the list guys
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Interesting....very interesting.
The admin said he contacted His manager so I await his reply!
http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/37918
CTU_Loscombe said:
Unlock your bootloader and flash an ICS rom. Better than having the standard crap Sony Ericsson skin ruining the phone.
As an added bonus, all the best games i.e SNES emulators, work
Getting the Play for Android games is a waste of a gamepad........
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Gameloft games don't work
I know when the ICS is out!
Its the 32nd of May.
/sarcasm/
Please stop with these threads already, these and the "what's the best rom" as well as the "Xperia play 2 patent submitted" type of threads are a waste of time IMHO, when there's one of them, fine, but you don't need ten threads for one announcement.
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I know when the ICS is out!
Its the 32nd of May.
/sarcasm/
Please stop with these threads already, these and the "what's the best rom" as well as the "Xperia play 2 patent submitted" type of threads are a waste of time IMHO, when there's one of them, fine, but you don't need ten threads for one announcement.
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Agreed. No reason for someone to make another thread to the same topic, if need be just use whatever thread is current. OTherwise just wasting space on the forums and it makes it less likely that someone with a real question or thread is not going to be seen unless someone diggs through all the posts.
Xperia S is not on the list either... This is obviously the list of phones that are receiving updates in the current roll out.
Just found this and wanted to share.
Arc & Neo ICS updates out today.
http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/05/2...eo-android-4-0-ics-updates-start-rolling-out/
On a side note I thought I read somewhere that the Arc is a common ROM to be ported to Xperia PLAY.....this true?
Anyway just sharing.
Yes, it is true.
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Wohoo, this sounds promising, it sounds like my first try to port a ROM ever here, since I really want a ICS-ROM for Xperia Play, but only if the android version is 4.0.4 then, otherwise, it will not get better And after that I will try to get everything to work as well
it seems that the latest Xperia Pro ICS firmware has been leaked!
The sony devs better pray that it runs like crap on our phones because I cant imagine them looking worse than they do right now
If devs port this rom to the Play, get TouchPads working with all the touchpad games and I'll retract every ICS is bad for the Play comment I've made recently
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If devs port this rom to the Play, get TouchPads working with all the touchpad games and I'll retract every ICS is bad for the Play comment I've made recently
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Which is.... pretty much impossible. The dev's need to update the games.
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But we'll need a kernel won't we?
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If it wasn't for the custom roms, I would feel like crap for buying this phone (Xperia Play). At least, there are some decent roms out there.
Anyway, it is a shame that Sony hasn't released, at least, the sources, or have they?
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Which is.... pretty much impossible. The dev's need to update the games.
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I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. We dont need it
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I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. We dont need it
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ICS is great for us who pretty much just use the pad for emulators. Emulators work fine in ICS, and you get all the niceties (sadly the rotation animation is way up there on my list).
I could care less if Sony released an update or not, I'm still able to get a damn fine ICS experience with the aokp rom.
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I know I'm just staying on the Gingerbread side of the fence. Screw ICS. GSM users dont need it
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Fixed.
CDMA users definitely need something.
So this has me thinking..... Nexus S is similerly specs to the Xperia PLAY and it will be getting Jelly Bean...man... For those curios unless games work great on ICS and or JB I will stick with GB as it offers, currently, the most compatibility. Still though.. if the Nexus S can get it the nwhy not the PLAY. Clearly $ony has moved on and has forgotten about our awesome little gaming phone.... guess its JB or waiting until later today to see what the supposed new ZTE Gaming phone is all about.... peace ya'll
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/18/nexus-s-jelly-bean-vodafone-australia/
Devs will make it happen though
Isn't it cause games wouldn't work as well otherwise?
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Isn't it cause games wouldn't work as well otherwise?
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Thats why i am still on GB and dont plan on moving to ICS. Most games are not opimized to work on ICS.
The ZTE smart phone doesn't even have a gamepad. Also only a tegra 2 processor. Bit dated. On the plus side, it is cheap though, only £189.99
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source please.
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2192512/zte-announces-a-budget-grand-x-gaming-smartphone
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a gaming phone with touch controls aint a gaming phone...
The one X is far superior
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Motawa88 said:
a gaming phone with touch controls aint a gaming phone...
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Agreed. Gaming is with a gamepad. Not a touchscreen.
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THATS A GAMING PHONE!!!!!! Ummmmmm....yeah..OK. I will keep my awesome xperia play thank you very much. I was thinking it would have a slide out game pad. But a touchscreen for gaming....as all PLAY users will comment.. touchscreen gaming blows.... I'm starting to sound like TLRtheory. its OK though he's cool
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i just really hope that jelly bean gets ported well to the play with project butter and stuff... + the gaming (at least emulators) works as good as with gingerbread... but i dont think its gonna happen :/
Due to project butter, jellybean seems like a major change from ICS, more so than gingerbread to ICS (not in terms of appearance)
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ZTE pretty much excited us for no reason
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ZTE pretty much excited us for no reason
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I would have to agree. Its not a gaming phone unless its got a good control scheme hardware wise
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Not much to do with the play
jgregoryj1 said:
THATS A GAMING PHONE!!!!!! Ummmmmm....yeah..OK. I will keep my awesome xperia play thank you very much. I was thinking it would have a slide out game pad. But a touchscreen for gaming....as all PLAY users will comment.. touchscreen gaming blows.... I'm starting to sound like TLRtheory. its OK though he's cool
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Yeah! Looks like we will never get something that will replace our SE-XPLAYS!!!! Shame really thought we might be seeing some Tegra 3, GamePad love! But hey! Its not like we have ever had our hopes and dreams smashed before now is it!
Wasn't ever going to happen. Anyway, doesn't Sony have the patent for physical gamepad in a phone?
i heard that JB only needs 512 of ram. Does it mean that it will probably run better as ICS did?
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Nexus S is similerly specs to the Xperia PLAY and it will be getting Jelly Bean...[...] if the Nexus S can get it the nwhy not the PLAY.
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Oh god, not this again.
The reason that the Xperia Play is not getting ICS is not because its hardware!!!!
READ THE FOLLOWING LINES PLEASE!
The reason because the Xperia Play won't get ICS goes like this:
1- Sony launches the Xperia Play.
2- Some months later, some developers like Rockstar Games and EA make some outsanding games compatible with the Xperia Play (GTAIII, Dead Space...) wich helps a lot on the sales of this smartphone.
3- Sony, wich plans to update the Xperia Play to ICS like the other Xperias from 2011, launches a beta of ICS for the Xperia Play in order to allow people to test how their apps and games run on the new version of Android.
4- The beta works great on the phone, but some games like GTA III and other important titles don't run well. These games need to be updated to work correctly on the ICS for the Xperia Play.
5- Rockstar, EA and others refuse to update their games for the Xperia Play.
6- Sony, with no option, doesn't want to lose the most important titles of the Xperia Play and decides to not update the device.
END.
Well I'm looking around and I see a lot of empty ness now since Sony cancelled on ics for Play. I have hopes for jelly bean though!
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It's not dying, Sony just dropped support. Development here is still going just fine, albeit a little more slowly
JunDavis said:
Well I'm looking around and I see a lot of empty ness now since Sony cancelled on ics for Play. I have hopes for jelly bean though!
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Since Gameloft and EA said they wont support ICS for play, you dont need hope for JB then.
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It's not dying
not yet, in a hopefully short time a really good kernel will be released (that only works on a few devices yet)
maybe a few roms, but if sony release jb for play development will go faster.
at least sony is testing jb on play
you talk about the 3.0.x kernel of the Kexec topic nick?
nope, something better
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not yet, in a hopefully short time a really good kernel will be released (that only works on a few devices yet)
maybe a few roms, but if sony release jb for play development will go faster.
at least sony is testing jb on play
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Wat sony is testing jb on play? Any link?
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nope not a link.
inside info.
they are testing it on xperia 2011 and 2012 (i also asked about the play and he said: we are testing it on the play too)
as most games will work on jb (at least more then ics)
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nope not a link.
inside info.
they are testing it on xperia 2011 and 2012 (i also asked about the play and he said: we are testing it on the play too)
as most games will work on jb (at least more then ics)
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Wow cool stuff. When o repair my play in june there will be a lot of cool stuff to try
Did you ask about P/Sola aswell?
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not directly but they said: xperia 2012 line
so that's also the P and Sola
No offense, but I'm not taking the word of a forum poster who spoke to "a guy at Sony" that jb is being tested on the Play. The truth is this phone is in the process of being dropped by Sony, in fact I doubt its even being manufactured anymore. They have it working as is, and they have a whole new product line out there. JB is NOT coming to the Play.
then they can still testing it!
jb does only recommend 512mb ram where ics recommend 1024mb ram
for games much better!
project butter makes it even better for games!
but if you don't want to believe me, then you don't
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then they can still testing it!
jb does only recommend 512mb ram where ics recommend 1024mb ram
for games much better!
project butter makes it even better for games!
but if you don't want to believe me, then you don't
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ICS recommended 512mb, as does JB
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lol, then i misreaded
but then still jb run games smoother the ics and it will run more games
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lol, then i misreaded
but then still jb run games smoother the ics and it will run more games
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Also, butter is the UI and some of the SDK. Most apps in ICS run in GB compatibility mode, so won't use the jb optimizations
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A friend of mine recently got a Nexus and when he got it it had ICS and wouldnt run any GL games, now with JB he is running MC3 and several other GL games without any issues.... I never left GB as I game way too much but if JB ever came out and it worked for R800x (highly doubtful) then I might consider switching. Until then I will forever be on 2.3.3 (thank you VZ for the 2.3.4 train wreck you released)
Anyways, I am crossing my fingers for some news..... even if never switch to it.
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A friend of mine recently got a Nexus and when he got it it had ICS and wouldnt run any GL games, now with JB he is running MC3 and several other GL games without any issues.... I never left GB as I game way too much but if JB ever came out and it worked for R800x (highly doubtful) then I might consider switching. Until then I will forever be on 2.3.3 (thank you VZ for the 2.3.4 train wreck you released)
Anyways, I am crossing my fingers for some news..... even if never switch to it.
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The GL issue sounds like a bug in the system that was ironed out in Jelly Bean, speaking as a Nexus user
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Sony, All we need is some Alpha/Beta of jelly bean WITH touchpad support, We can do the rest lol.
Unlikely us poor Verizon folks will ever get anything better than 2.3.3. It's time to drop big red, I think.
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