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Ice Cream Sandwich beta Rom !

Check it out ! ICS is just round the corner.
Can't wait
I just hope they change the lock screen though.
http://developer.sonymobile.com/wp/...e-for-unlocked-2011-xperia-smartphone-models/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJbDl8aikUk&feature=player_embedded

again only neo V, arc S and ray.... why not play???

IE-coRe said:
again only neo V, arc S and ray.... why not play???
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i tried talking to an agent on the Sony site... he has no clue he literally told me we don't know that information useless support tbh.

Well if that is the new ics I'm very disappointed it just looks like gingerbread to me it looks nothing like ice cream sandwich:-( nothing in the notification bar what's going on Sony give us full ice cream sandwich not with things missing!!
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Plus there is no mention of the play phone I'm so frustrated with sony I think they rushed this phone, things like no bloody memory on a gaming phone come on wtf Sony "yeh we'll bring a gaming device but put 300 mb on it! Wth. No games like they said, if it wasn't for all these hard working 3rd party devs this phone would be dead! Sony this phone could off been great if u put some time n effort n worked properly on it! Frustrated that's all sick of feeling ripped off. :-(
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The Settings menu looks like the ICS menu, but with all of the stuff Sony edits on Android, it still looks like the same old thing. Lame.

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Plus there is no mention of the play phone I'm so frustrated with sony I think they rushed this phone, things like no bloody memory on a gaming phone come on wtf Sony "yeh we'll bring a gaming device but put 300 mb on it! Wth. No games like they said, if it wasn't for all these hard working 3rd party devs this phone would be dead! Sony this phone could off been great if u put some time n effort n worked properly on it! Frustrated that's all sick of feeling ripped off. :-(
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What are you talking about? The Xperia Play will get ICS as well !

I'll believe it when it Sony say it Sony seem to always leave experia play out of there wordings they always say arc and all the others but never the play. They say all 2011 models I no but y not come out wigh a full list of every phone? :-D
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Given the play is getting ics a month later you'd assume the beta would be a month behind too would you not?
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Don't u think that looks like. Moded gingerbread I think I'll stay with cyangen mod or the other ics.
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Why Sony, Why? If it's not broke don't fix it. The stock ICS is the best interface for any android device, if sony take anymore things away it we might as well put leave gingerbread on our phones.
They've basically taken all the Xperia S' UI and ported it to the ICS roms, i really hope they don't fudge this up for the play, in fact they might just leave the play on gingerbread because they don't seem to like releasing stuff for it.

Guys, if you dont like the home launcher, u can use trebuchet or nova, simple
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As long as the Andreno driver update is included I'll be happy

will8578 said:
Guys, if you dont like the home launcher, u can use trebuchet or nova, simple
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Will that's the point we shouldn't have to use another launcher, from that video that isn't ics there's nothing ics about it. I really hope Sony rethinks this one because it looks like a half arse try when u have 3rd party devs doing better part time!,
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Will that's the point we shouldn't have to use another launcher, from that video that isn't ics there's nothing ics about it. I really hope Sony rethinks this one because it looks like a half arse try when u have 3rd party devs doing better part time!,
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You have to expect this with manufacturers, they all do it. If you want a vanilla Android experience get a Nexus

Has anyone ever considered that maybe sony bought the sexplay to kill it?

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You have to expect this with manufacturers, they all do it. If you want a vanilla Android experience get a Nexus
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Haha I don't want nexus I'll think when the update comes through ill stay on gingerbread till cm or miui :-D
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And y the hell have Sony put slide to lock on that will definitely need to be changed won't it??
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I agree with most of you saying that the Xperia Play has been left out but i'm sure that it's been advertised pretty well ? and even then it doesn't manage to get it self known.
I am dissapointed cause this is a playstation certified smartphone with actual physical buttons and they should have done better with it.

As soon as I flash this rom officially from Sony I'm going to use the AOSP theme, Xperia S theme really is ugly.

Vodafone Australia promises Nexus S Jelly Bean .....read on.....

So this has me thinking..... Nexus S is similerly specs to the Xperia PLAY and it will be getting Jelly Bean...man... For those curios unless games work great on ICS and or JB I will stick with GB as it offers, currently, the most compatibility. Still though.. if the Nexus S can get it the nwhy not the PLAY. Clearly $ony has moved on and has forgotten about our awesome little gaming phone.... guess its JB or waiting until later today to see what the supposed new ZTE Gaming phone is all about.... peace ya'll
http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/18/nexus-s-jelly-bean-vodafone-australia/

Devs will make it happen though

Isn't it cause games wouldn't work as well otherwise?
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KindaUndisputed said:
Isn't it cause games wouldn't work as well otherwise?
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Thats why i am still on GB and dont plan on moving to ICS. Most games are not opimized to work on ICS.

The ZTE smart phone doesn't even have a gamepad. Also only a tegra 2 processor. Bit dated. On the plus side, it is cheap though, only £189.99
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source please.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2192512/zte-announces-a-budget-grand-x-gaming-smartphone
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a gaming phone with touch controls aint a gaming phone...

The one X is far superior
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Motawa88 said:
a gaming phone with touch controls aint a gaming phone...
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Agreed. Gaming is with a gamepad. Not a touchscreen.
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http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2192512/zte-announces-a-budget-grand-x-gaming-smartphone
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THATS A GAMING PHONE!!!!!! Ummmmmm....yeah..OK. I will keep my awesome xperia play thank you very much. I was thinking it would have a slide out game pad. But a touchscreen for gaming....as all PLAY users will comment.. touchscreen gaming blows.... I'm starting to sound like TLRtheory. its OK though he's cool
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i just really hope that jelly bean gets ported well to the play with project butter and stuff... + the gaming (at least emulators) works as good as with gingerbread... but i dont think its gonna happen :/

Due to project butter, jellybean seems like a major change from ICS, more so than gingerbread to ICS (not in terms of appearance)
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ZTE pretty much excited us for no reason
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KindaUndisputed said:
ZTE pretty much excited us for no reason
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I would have to agree. Its not a gaming phone unless its got a good control scheme hardware wise
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Not much to do with the play

jgregoryj1 said:
THATS A GAMING PHONE!!!!!! Ummmmmm....yeah..OK. I will keep my awesome xperia play thank you very much. I was thinking it would have a slide out game pad. But a touchscreen for gaming....as all PLAY users will comment.. touchscreen gaming blows.... I'm starting to sound like TLRtheory. its OK though he's cool
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Yeah! Looks like we will never get something that will replace our SE-XPLAYS!!!! Shame really thought we might be seeing some Tegra 3, GamePad love! But hey! Its not like we have ever had our hopes and dreams smashed before now is it!

Wasn't ever going to happen. Anyway, doesn't Sony have the patent for physical gamepad in a phone?

i heard that JB only needs 512 of ram. Does it mean that it will probably run better as ICS did?

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Nexus S is similerly specs to the Xperia PLAY and it will be getting Jelly Bean...[...] if the Nexus S can get it the nwhy not the PLAY.
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Oh god, not this again.
The reason that the Xperia Play is not getting ICS is not because its hardware!!!!
READ THE FOLLOWING LINES PLEASE!
The reason because the Xperia Play won't get ICS goes like this:
1- Sony launches the Xperia Play.
2- Some months later, some developers like Rockstar Games and EA make some outsanding games compatible with the Xperia Play (GTAIII, Dead Space...) wich helps a lot on the sales of this smartphone.
3- Sony, wich plans to update the Xperia Play to ICS like the other Xperias from 2011, launches a beta of ICS for the Xperia Play in order to allow people to test how their apps and games run on the new version of Android.
4- The beta works great on the phone, but some games like GTA III and other important titles don't run well. These games need to be updated to work correctly on the ICS for the Xperia Play.
5- Rockstar, EA and others refuse to update their games for the Xperia Play.
6- Sony, with no option, doesn't want to lose the most important titles of the Xperia Play and decides to not update the device.
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No developers

All developers leave our arc :'( only FXP developing for Arc
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There's also jader and partially chaosfirZen
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i started to make a custom ROM, but my PC is almost dead and i think i have some viruses on it so now i need to start all over again on a different pc:crying:
i hope ill get my hands on a new PC soon:fingers-crossed:

JJ is here too but busy.

Fxp is only The One of the Most Active Developer For our Device & Also For 2011 Other XperiA Phones.
Fxp Hatsoff.!
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I'm still around are you after anything in particular.
Pvy
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ME 2
I'm not a FULL FETCHED dev.. but i know my way around... ThSEGA and Kernel SEGA are being updated regularly!!

Thanks all devs which are updating roms and keeping arc thread active

TheGreatSega said:
I'm not a FULL FETCHED dev.. but i know my way around... ThSEGA and Kernel SEGA are being updated regularly!!
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Ok sory i didnt try yours kernel/rom/mods/..
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I'm still around are you after anything in particular.
Pvy
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your xparts are assome !!

pvyParts said:
I'm still around are you after anything in particular.
Pvy
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It would be nice to see another Team Rom? How about a jelly bean performance boost? For locked bootloaders of course
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jayman1986 said:
It would be nice to see another Team Rom? How about a jelly bean performance boost? For locked bootloaders of course
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You are just asking for a miracle, by the way.
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theduke89 said:
You are just asking for a miracle, by the way.
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Don't get you, which part is the miracle?
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jayman1986 said:
Don't get you, which part is the miracle?
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Jelly bean for a locked BL
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Although I am on stock rom but i want to thank all developers for making the forum more interesting...

I am still there too... :fingers-crossed:
Development slowed down since there are no updates from Sony.. I am the one who likes to work on Official ROMs as it lets u use your phone with full hardware features working with stability...
You saw how I changed an Official Sony Stock ICS ROM to a completly AOSP ROM ... let JB come in, maybe I do same with that too but only if sony releases it..
For time being I dont think there is any use working on JB ROMs as performance will be the same and the extra features are not mind blowing enough to satisfy me of working on it...
cheers..

jjdoctor said:
I am still there too... :fingers-crossed:
Development slowed down since there are no updates from Sony.. I am the one who likes to work on Official ROMs as it lets u use your phone with full hardware features working with stability...
You saw how I changed an Official Sony Stock ICS ROM to a completly AOSP ROM ... let JB come in, maybe I do same with that too but only if sony releases it..
For time being I dont think there is any use working on JB ROMs as performance will be the same and the extra features are not mind blowing enough to satisfy me of working on it...
cheers..
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U can make rom on cm10
Add tweaks make faster or few more features etc

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Jelly bean for a locked BL
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When we were on Xperia x10, we had gingerbread on locked bootloader, just the kernel was 2.1 but we managed to get 2.2 and 2.3 Roms. It just needs some hard working devs
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I'm here too..

Xperia PLAY Dying?

Well I'm looking around and I see a lot of empty ness now since Sony cancelled on ics for Play. I have hopes for jelly bean though!
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It's not dying, Sony just dropped support. Development here is still going just fine, albeit a little more slowly

JunDavis said:
Well I'm looking around and I see a lot of empty ness now since Sony cancelled on ics for Play. I have hopes for jelly bean though!
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Since Gameloft and EA said they wont support ICS for play, you dont need hope for JB then.
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It's not dying

not yet, in a hopefully short time a really good kernel will be released (that only works on a few devices yet)
maybe a few roms, but if sony release jb for play development will go faster.
at least sony is testing jb on play

you talk about the 3.0.x kernel of the Kexec topic nick?

nope, something better

nickholtus said:
not yet, in a hopefully short time a really good kernel will be released (that only works on a few devices yet)
maybe a few roms, but if sony release jb for play development will go faster.
at least sony is testing jb on play
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Wat sony is testing jb on play? Any link?
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nope not a link.
inside info.
they are testing it on xperia 2011 and 2012 (i also asked about the play and he said: we are testing it on the play too)
as most games will work on jb (at least more then ics)

nickholtus said:
nope not a link.
inside info.
they are testing it on xperia 2011 and 2012 (i also asked about the play and he said: we are testing it on the play too)
as most games will work on jb (at least more then ics)
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Wow cool stuff. When o repair my play in june there will be a lot of cool stuff to try
Did you ask about P/Sola aswell?
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not directly but they said: xperia 2012 line
so that's also the P and Sola

No offense, but I'm not taking the word of a forum poster who spoke to "a guy at Sony" that jb is being tested on the Play. The truth is this phone is in the process of being dropped by Sony, in fact I doubt its even being manufactured anymore. They have it working as is, and they have a whole new product line out there. JB is NOT coming to the Play.

then they can still testing it!
jb does only recommend 512mb ram where ics recommend 1024mb ram
for games much better!
project butter makes it even better for games!
but if you don't want to believe me, then you don't

nickholtus said:
then they can still testing it!
jb does only recommend 512mb ram where ics recommend 1024mb ram
for games much better!
project butter makes it even better for games!
but if you don't want to believe me, then you don't
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ICS recommended 512mb, as does JB
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lol, then i misreaded
but then still jb run games smoother the ics and it will run more games

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lol, then i misreaded
but then still jb run games smoother the ics and it will run more games
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Also, butter is the UI and some of the SDK. Most apps in ICS run in GB compatibility mode, so won't use the jb optimizations
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A friend of mine recently got a Nexus and when he got it it had ICS and wouldnt run any GL games, now with JB he is running MC3 and several other GL games without any issues.... I never left GB as I game way too much but if JB ever came out and it worked for R800x (highly doubtful) then I might consider switching. Until then I will forever be on 2.3.3 (thank you VZ for the 2.3.4 train wreck you released)
Anyways, I am crossing my fingers for some news..... even if never switch to it.

ozzmanj1 said:
A friend of mine recently got a Nexus and when he got it it had ICS and wouldnt run any GL games, now with JB he is running MC3 and several other GL games without any issues.... I never left GB as I game way too much but if JB ever came out and it worked for R800x (highly doubtful) then I might consider switching. Until then I will forever be on 2.3.3 (thank you VZ for the 2.3.4 train wreck you released)
Anyways, I am crossing my fingers for some news..... even if never switch to it.
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The GL issue sounds like a bug in the system that was ironed out in Jelly Bean, speaking as a Nexus user
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Sony, All we need is some Alpha/Beta of jelly bean WITH touchpad support, We can do the rest lol.

Unlikely us poor Verizon folks will ever get anything better than 2.3.3. It's time to drop big red, I think.
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you know what grinds my gears?... the xperia E!

I am a little upset that the xperia E comes with official Android 4.1 JB having less specs then the xperia play and they get jellybean! not ICS straight to jellybean! both specs are identical but the xperia E has a lower Gpu and internal memory AND STILL! I understand that sony said that they wanted to leave this phone as a gaming phone but at least make it a optional update on your own risk or something

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I am a little upset that the xperia E comes with official Android 4.1 JB having less specs then the xperia play and they get jellybean! not ICS straight to jellybean! both specs are identical but the xperia E has a lower Gpu and internal memory AND STILL! I understand that sony said that they wanted to leave this phone as a gaming phone but at least make it a optional update on your own risk or something
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Yeah it sucks that we dont get it and we didnt even get ics (i dont count the beta because of all its bugs) but there was a rumored release for it a while ago could this be it? :sly:
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I think the problem is even if Sony released JB for our phone game development would still be slowing down like it has been lately. Plus all the older XPO releases like asphalt 6 and star battalion wouldn't work. Not like a lot of people play those. I still do. Is it possible to utilize some aspects of the xperia e's firmware?
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ozzmanj1 said:
I think the problem is even if Sony released JB for our phone game development would still be slowing down like it has been lately. Plus all the older XPO releases like asphalt 6 and star battalion wouldn't work. Not like a lot of people play those. I still do. Is it possible to utilize some aspects of the xperia e's firmware?
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thats why i say at your own risk, for people who might not want to game in the xperia play

Wouldn't be the first time a weaker phone got a newer FW than Xperia Play... we've already established that the reason Xperia Play didn't get ICS/JB was because it would throw the software compatibility way off.
If you want a good example of how bad it would've been, just look at all Evo V owners who are in an absolute fury because the vast majority of 3D games were made to operate under 2.3. The way I see it, Sony did the smart thing by opting for a more stable ecosystem.

The thing is that a lot of app developers are abandoning gb, and making apps for 4.0+, even Google them self, example, chrome browser a great browser but not for gb.
I'd even settle for a decent official ics from Sony, I mean the developers here are doing a better job than them
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The Xperia Play has a Scorpion S2 CPU, it's old. The Xperia E is a Cortex A5. Scorpion might be faster in raw flops but the A5 has more features. Snapdragon is quite poor by today's standards and the Xperia E will probably beat it in many ways.
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The thing is that a lot of app developers are abandoning gb, and making apps for 4.0+, even Google them self, example, chrome browser a great browser but not for gb.
I'd even settle for a decent official ics from Sony, I mean the developers here are doing a better job than them
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They don't do it on purpose. 2.x API just doesn't support anywhere near as much as 3.0+.

CosmicDan said:
The Xperia Play has a Scorpion S2 CPU, it's old. The Xperia E is a Cortex A5. Scorpion might be faster in raw flops but the A5 has more features. Snapdragon is quite poor by today's standards and the Xperia E will probably beat it in many ways.
They don't do it on purpose. 2.x API just doesn't support anywhere near as much as 3.0+.
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Hey dan!
and i see what you mean by the differences, i seen some benchmarks

I am going to admit many people know more about the inner workings of hardware. But I am sure that with the xperia e's 320x240 resolution also helps in benchmarks as it's not having to push as much in terms of resolution. Although I know that is only one aspect of a bigger picture.
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My friend has an Xperia J which is running on stock ICS and I can tell you it is laggy as hell, my phone with Krisdee's Hybrid ROM is much more stable. I know this has nothing to do with the Xperia E but Xperia J has similar hardware as our Xperia Play. Maybe he has a faulty device, I don't know.

Us modders have done a great job in making ics work well on Xperia play
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Mocket said:
My friend has an Xperia J which is running on stock ICS and I can tell you it is laggy as hell, my phone with Krisdee's Hybrid ROM is much more stable. I know this has nothing to do with the Xperia E but Xperia J has similar hardware as our Xperia Play. Maybe he has a faulty device, I don't know.
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My friend also has xperia j and yeah, it is laggy
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Haha off topic but I love how you titled that
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Haha off topic but I love how you titled that
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Family Guy.......?
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Family Guy.......?
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Yea lol
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xdarkmario said:
Yea lol
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Before I bring it back on topic. Here's a test xdarkmario. What FG moment has this line.
"Knuckle babies"
Okay back on topic of xperia e
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ozzmanj1 said:
Before I bring it back on topic. Here's a test xdarkmario. What FG moment has this line.
"Knuckle babies"
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hmmm.... not sure

xdarkmario said:
hmmm.... not sure
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Its one Peters rants when he is at the movie store and Tom Tucker walks in asking for 18+ videos and the clerk tells him they don't allow 18+ movies. Peter goes off on a rant about 18+ videos and "fire off some knuckle babies"
Okay..back to topic.
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Ahh lol just got it lol
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We all know what is the real problem.... we don't have an option for buying an xperia play 2 sony failed the smartphone gamming community...
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