http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/...-and-carriers-adopt-android-update-guidelines
Google will help sony to update phones that are not on higher platform but they support it
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Really cool! So if Google makes it, I guess it'll be more like AOSP that SE's customized FW...
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Really cool! So if Google makes it, I guess it'll be more like AOSP that SE's customized FW...
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Yes it wil be but there are not sure will be older devices in it
Somewhere writes new somewhere old to.
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haa.. haa... Google will update it?? interesting.. how S.E will respone it...??? may be S.E will say "no.. Mr.Google, if you update X8 who will buy our w8..?"
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haa.. haa... Google will update it?? interesting.. how S.E will respone it...??? may be S.E will say "no.. Mr.Google, if you update X8 who will buy our w8..?"
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Sony is on the list so he need
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seems like someone can't really understand what is he reading. we're not getting the update, and it's not about google giving update, it's about google forcing these companies to update their phones. but only NEW PHONES (read that text carefully, it's written down there), phones that have been just released, and phones that will be released in future. it's not working backwards, older phones ain't getting upgrades. sorry to turn your dreams into a dust. just a little advice - read the whole text, not just the heading, before you start a thread like this - you made ppl excited for no reason. now i have to make their joy go away
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seems like someone can't really understand what is he reading. we're not getting the update, and it's not about google giving update, it's about google forcing these companies to update their phones. but only NEW PHONES (read that text carefully, it's written down there), phones that have been just released, and phones that will be released in future. it's not working backwards, older phones ain't getting upgrades. sorry to turn your dreams into a dust. just a little advice - read the whole text, not just the heading, before you start a thread like this - you made ppl excited for no reason. now i have to make their joy go away
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+1 it also mentioned that they will get updates if hardware is capable, se have already said x8 wont be updated due to insufficient hardware on x8 personally I don't agree but hey what se says goes regarding hardware they manufactured. It really is a shame.
Thank God for racht, ponnovan, jerpela, dioxanh etc etc they make x8 worth buying XD
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+1 it also mentioned that they will get updates if hardware is capable, se have already said x8 wont be updated due to insufficient hardware on x8 personally I don't agree but hey what se says goes regarding hardware they manufactured. It really is a shame.
Thank God for racht, ponnovan, jerpela, dioxanh etc etc they make x8 worth buying XD
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Somewhere else writes old phones too and dont forget that sony thinks it will slow diwn our phones not that is hardware not supported and that does not make sense because 2.2 is lighter rom than 2.1
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then "somewhere else" is wrong. and of course, se is talking bull****, but that has nothing to do with it.
anyway, i'm happy with custom roms from our devs, so it's fine.
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then "somewhere else" is wrong. and of course, se is talking bull****, but that has nothing to do with it.
anyway, i'm happy with custom roms from our devs, so it's fine.
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I would always pick cm roms over the stock roms
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Somewhere else writes old phones too and dont forget that sony thinks it will slow diwn our phones not that is hardware not supported and that does not make sense because 2.2 is lighter rom than 2.1
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Like I said before se have said many times before x8 will not get froyo EVER at the end of the day not us not Google not anyone can make se update x8 to newer versions of android deal with it. X8 is still a great phone with minicm etc etc
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come on all send email to google and others
if we can't update our phone can undo and denigrate the f**ckin SE instead ;
I'm happy with custom roms, cuz everything works fine. We don't need SE to update it
X8 is excellent phone.
And, to substantiate my statement as soon as our devs crack bootloader and fully working Gingerbread is made this phone will get even better. Worth waitng.
Times are tough and a lot of us just can't affort better phone.
P.S.: @as-mario you're troller... read twice before you post... think before you blink!
I have already sent several messages to SE Brazil and the answer is always the same:
"The Sony Ericsson XPERIA X8 will not be updated because it does not meet the requisites of Android 2.3" - or nearly so, but always the same direction of response -> A short NO!
Perhaps with support from Google the story will change, because only the X10 received the upgrade to 2.3 from Sony Ericsson and many users still use their custom ROMS ...
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I bought my E15a because here in Brazil, it is Android and powerful in its price range ...
I wanted to install a custom ROM on my X8, but this news will motivate me to wait for the update .... hehe!
Greetings from Brazil!
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I wanted to install a custom ROM on my X8, but this news will motivate me to wait for the update .... hehe!
Greetings from Brazil!
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don't hold your breath...
I think we don't even need a SE stock-ROM. Our devs are doing great work!!!
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I would always pick cm roms over the stock roms
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Me too....few bugs in many cases, but smoothless !
We should sent emails to GooGle android center about our problem. Google can force SE to update our phone. We can make petition to google. We can make petition at least for unlocking bootloader.
Who don't think it's a great idea?
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The news is probably related to new phones.
hope not only newer phone will supported the update
Related
I've been waiting to try the new Sony Reader app since it was first announced a few months ago. December launch was bumped to January launch. It is finally available, but not for the X10. Froyo only. Talk about salting an open wound. Bummer.
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Of course that is not Sony's issue that Ericsson has decided to produce an outdated phone with outdated OS and not upgrade it to anything beyond 2.1 because their developers are not able to work on Time Scape and bring it to 2.2.
I forgot that in this particular issue, Sony and Ericsson are one entity. Yep, speak of which....
since se has no phone YET running froyo its more or less quite embarassing
Unless SE's hinting at Froyo for the X10 then this app is... I dunno what to make of this move... Sony can't be this stupid... or can they?...
Sure, they can say it's meant to reach not just their userbase but the android community at large but... wow... just wow
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Uh. Can't you see their marketing tactics?
"Hi all, we have a new app for you~!! What did you say? Your phone can't support? Fret not! Buy our Xperia Arc and you can enjoy the app and more~!!!!"
Lol.
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Uh. Can't you see their marketing tactics?
"Hi all, we have a new app for you~!! What did you say? Your phone can't support? Fret not! Buy our Xperia Arc and you can enjoy the app and more~!!!!"
Lol.
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Sad but true
Anyway, not all is lost. This app could be ported...
Or we could just install Z's Froyo rom... other than no camcorder (pics work, just not video ATM) it is great and I am getting 1500+ in quadrant.
Just a suggestion, I know some like the stock rom, or just dislike a non-complete rom.
I am holding off on Froyo roms for now, but fully intend to use one before I buy another phone. My contract with AT&T just started in August. Gonna own this X10 a while.
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Uh. Can't you see their marketing tactics?
"Hi all, we have a new app for you~!! What did you say? Your phone can't support? Fret not! Buy our Xperia Arc and you can enjoy the app and more~!!!!"
Lol.
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Exactly. And if we ran Sony, we'd probably do the same thing.
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Sony Reader App
Has anyone gotten this to work on the G Tab? I have played with it for days even called Sony support and can not get it to work?
Bin4ry quitted the forums although he wanted to crack the Bootloader but do you think we will make it whitout him? I feel like no but we will see
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The developers here did enough without opening the bootloader, so my guess is everything is fine here ( most ROMs here are completed with camera fix ) what more do you want?
And quitted is not the word, he just went into another project.. another challenge
I think we should start another thread about whether to start another thread about this topic
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for 2.2 froyo roms, they are basically completed
for 2.3 gingerbread ones, we just have to wait for the gingerbread update (official) so we can use the kernal and drivers available to make them stable.
I don't think our devices will make it to ice cream though..
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I think we should start another thread about whether to start another thread about this topic
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Lol agreed!
Anyways, I feel if one of the other devs ask him for help he will....so I don't think he will be gone completely
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Uuh ice cream :9
I think Z,J and all great devs are able to port it... when it's released ^^
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Mj what you said is true most roms are complete but there is still more things we can do for example 16 millions color thingy and the device is locked to 32 fps and i'd love to overclock my device and for some people facing the low in call volume issue a fix and all these would be done by unlocking the Bootloader.
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i heard if someone updates to the new and official 2.3 it wil make it even harder to crack the bootloader me personaly i wont update to 2.3 beacause i can use other better roms such as cm7 and arc rom
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i heard if someone updates to the new and official 2.3 it wil make it even harder to crack the bootloader me personaly i wont update to 2.3 beacause i can use other better roms such as cm7 and arc rom
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That's the first I've heard of anything bootloader related to SE's 2.3.3. It might be possible to infer that but otherwise nothing is publicly known. *Maybe* rooting it might be more difficult.
2.3 kernel + CM7 mod >> 2.1 kernel + CM7 Mod
Just IMO (might be different but we won't know until July)
I think we should aware something:
1)Bin4ry doesn't crack the bootloader cause the cracking is...hell
What Tue devs do is to crash the normal booting procredures in order to run our custom kernel(the kexec method)
2)I still blieve that we can soon run custom kernel for daily use
Z is trying his best to do that,he had got the radio,overclockint etc,this will be released once the kernel is ready.
The leaving of Bin4ry is a kind of lost,but it doesn't mean it wont be possible to develop the custom kernel
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L
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I hope z will make it and yeah its hell of a loss he made alot for us like the flashtool sad loss anyways cant wait for the custom kernel being released!!!!
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Bin4ry is a beast, but don't forget about the other devs!! And Bin4ry says hes gonna stay if we donate $200 to him.
Lol hes gonna get more then that if he actually manage out that custom kernel! And this is sad he wants money for his work like most devs but if he really asked it like this "pay me 200$ and i will stay" its eww!
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I think we should aware something:
1)Bin4ry doesn't crack the bootloader cause the cracking is...hell
What Tue devs do is to crash the normal booting procredures in order to run our custom kernel(the kexec method)
2)I still blieve that we can soon run custom kernel for daily use
Z is trying his best to do that,he had got the radio,overclockint etc,this will be released once the kernel is ready.
The leaving of Bin4ry is a kind of lost,but it doesn't mean it wont be possible to develop the custom kernel
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Tottaly agree, plus that if j, z or any other dev need some help from bin4ry he helps as fas far as he can.
Didn't mean to make Bin4ry look bad check out this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011941
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this is sad he wants money for his work like most devs but if he really asked it like this "pay me 200$ and i will stay" its eww!
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erm....that is not the case at all.....Andreas (Bin4ry) is actually saying that he does not feel comfortable with the OP of the thread requesting that money is collected for him. Bin4ry did NOT request the $200 at all.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12466249&postcount=11
just want to make that clear.
Yea I realized that I made him look bad, but Bin4ry actually feels uncomfortable with the situation
My bad I worded that badly
It have been cracked by z!!!!!!! Omfg no kidding i saw a comment in the cm7 rom thread where it said z have made it + there was link of the thread omg!!!!
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Just a thought that was in my head. The new official gingerbread rom should be coming out in august so I was wondering who is going to upgrade or stay on their custom rom.
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Im sure people will stay on custom roms knowing they dont have to deal with bloatware apps and other useless nonsense that SE provides. Saying this i believe many files will be pulled from the generic 2.3 to be used in the ROMs.
No. Will stay with froyo
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Yes, just to try it out. I use a Custom ROM but there are many things that are broken sometimes, not supported, or flat out not working. Once the official 2.3 is out I am sure those guys will make their own custom ROMs much better.
LOLwat? After all the *****ing SE received, people better upgrade, otherwise they'll send a hitman to off you.
gingerbread
I sure will upgrade to 2.3 official
Will update right away when SE releases it.
I will update to officiell 2.3 and stay there because then i have everything i want
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Gonna try it. Might as well keep it, but I guess I'll be expecting XDA developers to make it even better with tweaks and stuff.
If FPS cap raised to 60 --> upgrade. If not, I'm sticking with Froyo.
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If FPS cap raised to 60 --> upgrade. If not, I'm sticking with Froyo.
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Yeah +1
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LOLwat? After all the *****ing SE received, people better upgrade, otherwise they'll send a hitman to off you.
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Hahaha true that! And personally i will be upgrading just to see how it is all i need is good battery life like 10 hours of medium usage and fully fonctial like camera and all that
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gonna upgrade the first minute it's out and then, some weeks later when there are some good custom rom's gona change to one of them
I bought an Arc and gave my X10 to my son.
He's looking forward to the upgrade so we'll give it a shot and see what SE provides.
Yeah, you know it's okay, release Gingerbread when the Ice Cream Sandwich is right around the corner.
will give it a shot and try it for few hours... get bored, return to CM7 and wait for FreeXperia team to get camera fully working
I'll update once it's rooted
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I'll update once it's rooted
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Comes with the Arc Timescape, right? I'd like to see what changed, so I'll definitely try it out.
Ill upgrade if we get a new kernel, with no fps cap and with implemented netfilter and ip tables ect... otherwise ill stick to trip's miui froyo.
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Its time to purchase a new phone and i am looking at the Samsung Galaxy SII. Can someone please outline whats good/bad about the device and how the development is going? I can see that there is a lot of stock ROMs avaliable for it but will there be ROMs like CM7 and Sense, as it will take a while to port ROMs to its processor as it has to be done from scratch
I'd really recommend you to wait for a bit
Wait for the google Phone by Motorola
OR I'd say go for a ARC
What do u want in a phone ?
Best to go and ask people in galaxy s forum? Afterall they do own the phone.
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I'd really recommend you to wait for a bit
Wait for the google Phone by Motorola
OR I'd say go for a ARC
What do u want in a phone ?
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Mainly speed and developers
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Mainly speed and developers
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I'd say go for a HTC device then
They have many many devs
They have the latest Specs and I mean "fast"
Don't go for Samsung
sgs2 is awesome.... The screen is vivid, it's dual core so it will be more future proof and because it is the biggest selling android phone of all time there will be tons of development. Also samsung is very well known to support development and custom roms, hiring the cyanogen mod developer, etc...
do not get an arc, there have been a lot of problems with the build, the housing has been cracking for a big number of people who bought them.
What about the htc sensation.
Kieron
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The new arc s? I'd stick to sony Ericsson due to the fact that rooting and flashing roms/kernel is not a pain in the ass like HTC 's devices or samsung lol
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The new arc s? I'd stick to sony Ericsson due to the fact that rooting and flashing roms/kernel is not a pain in the ass like HTC 's devices or samsung lol
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What I have a HTC now, unless you're borderline retarded its just as simple lol..
Flash in recovery, wow that's tough haha
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What I have a HTC now, unless you're borderline retarded its just as simple lol..
Flash in recovery, wow that's tough haha
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Don't take it wrong buddy but when i go to the htc forums i always get confused like hboot fastboot bootloader s-off blablabla i dont even know what is that but looks like a pain in the ass the goldcard thingy the software you need to root ur phone it is like 30 steps ? Compared to the x10 i think its harder :/
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Don't take it wrong buddy but when i go to the htc forums i always get confused like hboot fastboot bootloader s-off blablabla i dont even know what is that but looks like a pain in the ass the goldcard thingy the software you need to root ur phone it is like 30 steps ? Compared to the x10 i think its harder :/
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hahah I did it in like 2 minutes, it was no harder than flashtool...
There is one program that s-off and roots your device, just like flashtool.
The reason x10 is so easy is because we don't have an unlocked bootloader, so we use flashtool for everything.
On htc phones you can flash full custom roms which include kernel, and you can also flash different radios.
It is literally no more difficult, and much better imo. Say if you break your usb port, you aren't screwed like you are with an x10.
I learned everything in about 5 minutes, read one small tutorial.
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sgs2 is awesome.... The screen is vivid, it's dual core so it will be more future proof and because it is the biggest selling android phone of all time there will be tons of development. Also samsung is very well known to support development and custom roms, hiring the cyanogen mod developer, etc...
do not get an arc, there have been a lot of problems with the build, the housing has been cracking for a big number of people who bought them.
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What he said.....or just wait a bit for newer. But the sgs2 is certainly not a bad choice.
I'm probably going to get a sgs2 because I've had my vibrant for the longest time I like the super amoled screen but I wish it was bigger
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Probably the most important thing I want in a phone is support from developers. Xperia Arc doesn't have alot of devs while SGS2 is flooding with devs and custom roms
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Just wait a bit longer and get the google nexus prime
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I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
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I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
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HAHAHAHA what??!?
Lol....
my new HTC is ten times faster than x10 and sgs2 destroys it.
Be serious lol
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I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
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lol
You are a funny man.
i suggest you wait and see the upcoming new releases of phones by other brands. Samsung Galaxy SII seems quite uninteresting. i feel x10 could do better in general. Samsung is not on 'my-favourite-brands' list. but, i have to admit Samsung Galaxy SII is not so bad, better than average smartphones, i believe.
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I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
You must be drunk if you think the galaxy s2 is a minor upgrade from the x10. If that's so then the arc is not even an upgrade just a tweak.
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Thought id start this thread to create a bit of build up to the upgrade, im a regular arc user so ive still got another month or so to wait but il feel good if the arc s gets theirs on time, which being the end of march could be any day now. Sony seem to be quiet on this, anyone heard anything?
I'm hoping they release the ICS for arc s by the end of this weekend, the suspense is killing me slowly lol. I check this forum and sony blog post every morning.
As they said late March to early April, that could mean the update would between 15 March and 15 April.
Would love to get an update from SE on the progress for the first phones that are due upgrades.
Clearly feeling a little bit left out now that Samsung are releasing theirs.
Hasn't HTC also updated a device?
Sony is behind - again
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I'm very enthusiastic about ICS too but doesn't it mean that we won't have our devices rooted anymore? I've linked tons of apps via Link2SD and my Arc don't have enough space to hold them all.
I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
But I'm also Excited because lots of optimization and features will be available to us, specially that Adreno 205 Driver will be included(I read it somewhere)
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I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
But I'm also Excited because lots of optimization and features will be available to us, specially that Adreno 205 Driver will be included(I read it somewhere)
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I think otherwise. Almost every app I tried is fully compatible with ICS.
Also, Sony has announced the neo L in China and it launches with ICS on board. It uses the same chipset as the arc (MSM8255). Perhaps we could port it when someone gets and uploads the filesystem dump, that is, if the device comes out sooner than the ICS update.
There's nothing on PTCRB yet and updates usually appear on here well in advance of the update actually being pushed. So it could still be weeks away assuming they haven't had any serious issues they need to fix first. It's been 4 weeks since the beta and not a peep from the Sony devs here on XDA which is a shame.
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=20152
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Hasn't HTC also updated a device?
Sony is behind - again
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Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
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I don't think it will be a problem. I also have an Asus Transformer TF101, and that got ICS a few weeks back, no application compatibility problems, and it's REALLY quick (it was quick before anyway).
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Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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Is that all samsung/HTC devices or Nexus devices? I think we should know...
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Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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Never get an update before samsung? Wasn't the Arc the first phone to sport Gingerbread?
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Would love to get an update from SE on the progress for the first phones that are due upgrades.
Clearly feeling a little bit left out now that Samsung are releasing theirs.
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yeah i agree, in their blog post they stated "Over the next months we will be keeping you up to date on progress and we will also share video demos of the new software running on 2011 Xperia™ smartphones." it doesnt look good....
Probably see it in April, just my safe guess.
I am really looking forward to being able to force gpu acceleration because I don't like scrolling lag
i hope 2011 xperia can still support jelly bean in the future...
By XDA sure, by sony no. I doubt they will release another major update after this. Look at the X10, got gingerbread update and that was it.
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i hope 2011 xperia can still support jelly bean in the future...
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zed011 said:
By XDA sure, by sony no. I doubt they will release another major update after this. Look at the X10, got gingerbread update and that was it.
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There's 50% chance they will do it and if they do, Jelly Bean will probably be the last major update.
Retardo25 said:
Never get an update before samsung? Wasn't the Arc the first phone to sport Gingerbread?
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Nope it was nexus s
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Nope it was nexus s
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Yea, nexus was first, of course. But I think even you understood my point.
Samsung's fleet was updated later...
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