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Good news:google will make us 2.2 not sony

http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/...-and-carriers-adopt-android-update-guidelines
Google will help sony to update phones that are not on higher platform but they support it
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Really cool! So if Google makes it, I guess it'll be more like AOSP that SE's customized FW...

Blagus said:
Really cool! So if Google makes it, I guess it'll be more like AOSP that SE's customized FW...
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Yes it wil be but there are not sure will be older devices in it
Somewhere writes new somewhere old to.
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haa.. haa... Google will update it?? interesting.. how S.E will respone it...??? may be S.E will say "no.. Mr.Google, if you update X8 who will buy our w8..?"

evilteater said:
haa.. haa... Google will update it?? interesting.. how S.E will respone it...??? may be S.E will say "no.. Mr.Google, if you update X8 who will buy our w8..?"
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Sony is on the list so he need
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seems like someone can't really understand what is he reading. we're not getting the update, and it's not about google giving update, it's about google forcing these companies to update their phones. but only NEW PHONES (read that text carefully, it's written down there), phones that have been just released, and phones that will be released in future. it's not working backwards, older phones ain't getting upgrades. sorry to turn your dreams into a dust. just a little advice - read the whole text, not just the heading, before you start a thread like this - you made ppl excited for no reason. now i have to make their joy go away

wujekandrzej said:
seems like someone can't really understand what is he reading. we're not getting the update, and it's not about google giving update, it's about google forcing these companies to update their phones. but only NEW PHONES (read that text carefully, it's written down there), phones that have been just released, and phones that will be released in future. it's not working backwards, older phones ain't getting upgrades. sorry to turn your dreams into a dust. just a little advice - read the whole text, not just the heading, before you start a thread like this - you made ppl excited for no reason. now i have to make their joy go away
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+1 it also mentioned that they will get updates if hardware is capable, se have already said x8 wont be updated due to insufficient hardware on x8 personally I don't agree but hey what se says goes regarding hardware they manufactured. It really is a shame.
Thank God for racht, ponnovan, jerpela, dioxanh etc etc they make x8 worth buying XD
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furrabbit.nh said:
+1 it also mentioned that they will get updates if hardware is capable, se have already said x8 wont be updated due to insufficient hardware on x8 personally I don't agree but hey what se says goes regarding hardware they manufactured. It really is a shame.
Thank God for racht, ponnovan, jerpela, dioxanh etc etc they make x8 worth buying XD
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Somewhere else writes old phones too and dont forget that sony thinks it will slow diwn our phones not that is hardware not supported and that does not make sense because 2.2 is lighter rom than 2.1
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then "somewhere else" is wrong. and of course, se is talking bull****, but that has nothing to do with it.
anyway, i'm happy with custom roms from our devs, so it's fine.

wujekandrzej said:
then "somewhere else" is wrong. and of course, se is talking bull****, but that has nothing to do with it.
anyway, i'm happy with custom roms from our devs, so it's fine.
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I would always pick cm roms over the stock roms
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as-mario said:
Somewhere else writes old phones too and dont forget that sony thinks it will slow diwn our phones not that is hardware not supported and that does not make sense because 2.2 is lighter rom than 2.1
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Like I said before se have said many times before x8 will not get froyo EVER at the end of the day not us not Google not anyone can make se update x8 to newer versions of android deal with it. X8 is still a great phone with minicm etc etc
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come on all send email to google and others
if we can't update our phone can undo and denigrate the f**ckin SE instead ;

I'm happy with custom roms, cuz everything works fine. We don't need SE to update it
X8 is excellent phone.
And, to substantiate my statement as soon as our devs crack bootloader and fully working Gingerbread is made this phone will get even better. Worth waitng.
Times are tough and a lot of us just can't affort better phone.
P.S.: @as-mario you're troller... read twice before you post... think before you blink!

I have already sent several messages to SE Brazil and the answer is always the same:
"The Sony Ericsson XPERIA X8 will not be updated because it does not meet the requisites of Android 2.3" - or nearly so, but always the same direction of response -> A short NO!
Perhaps with support from Google the story will change, because only the X10 received the upgrade to 2.3 from Sony Ericsson and many users still use their custom ROMS ...
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I bought my E15a because here in Brazil, it is Android and powerful in its price range ...
I wanted to install a custom ROM on my X8, but this news will motivate me to wait for the update .... hehe!
Greetings from Brazil!

Salo-S said:
I wanted to install a custom ROM on my X8, but this news will motivate me to wait for the update .... hehe!
Greetings from Brazil!
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don't hold your breath...

I think we don't even need a SE stock-ROM. Our devs are doing great work!!!

furrabbit.nh said:
I would always pick cm roms over the stock roms
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Me too....few bugs in many cases, but smoothless !

We should sent emails to GooGle android center about our problem. Google can force SE to update our phone. We can make petition to google. We can make petition at least for unlocking bootloader.
Who don't think it's a great idea?
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The news is probably related to new phones.

hope not only newer phone will supported the update

[HELP!] Purchasing New Phone

Its time to purchase a new phone and i am looking at the Samsung Galaxy SII. Can someone please outline whats good/bad about the device and how the development is going? I can see that there is a lot of stock ROMs avaliable for it but will there be ROMs like CM7 and Sense, as it will take a while to port ROMs to its processor as it has to be done from scratch

I'd really recommend you to wait for a bit
Wait for the google Phone by Motorola
OR I'd say go for a ARC
What do u want in a phone ?

Best to go and ask people in galaxy s forum? Afterall they do own the phone.
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spaarc said:
I'd really recommend you to wait for a bit
Wait for the google Phone by Motorola
OR I'd say go for a ARC
What do u want in a phone ?
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Mainly speed and developers

paolo599 said:
Mainly speed and developers
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I'd say go for a HTC device then
They have many many devs
They have the latest Specs and I mean "fast"
Don't go for Samsung

sgs2 is awesome.... The screen is vivid, it's dual core so it will be more future proof and because it is the biggest selling android phone of all time there will be tons of development. Also samsung is very well known to support development and custom roms, hiring the cyanogen mod developer, etc...
do not get an arc, there have been a lot of problems with the build, the housing has been cracking for a big number of people who bought them.

What about the htc sensation.
Kieron
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The new arc s? I'd stick to sony Ericsson due to the fact that rooting and flashing roms/kernel is not a pain in the ass like HTC 's devices or samsung lol
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shahkam said:
The new arc s? I'd stick to sony Ericsson due to the fact that rooting and flashing roms/kernel is not a pain in the ass like HTC 's devices or samsung lol
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What I have a HTC now, unless you're borderline retarded its just as simple lol..
Flash in recovery, wow that's tough haha

scoobysnacks said:
What I have a HTC now, unless you're borderline retarded its just as simple lol..
Flash in recovery, wow that's tough haha
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Don't take it wrong buddy but when i go to the htc forums i always get confused like hboot fastboot bootloader s-off blablabla i dont even know what is that but looks like a pain in the ass the goldcard thingy the software you need to root ur phone it is like 30 steps ? Compared to the x10 i think its harder :/
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shahkam said:
Don't take it wrong buddy but when i go to the htc forums i always get confused like hboot fastboot bootloader s-off blablabla i dont even know what is that but looks like a pain in the ass the goldcard thingy the software you need to root ur phone it is like 30 steps ? Compared to the x10 i think its harder :/
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hahah I did it in like 2 minutes, it was no harder than flashtool...
There is one program that s-off and roots your device, just like flashtool.
The reason x10 is so easy is because we don't have an unlocked bootloader, so we use flashtool for everything.
On htc phones you can flash full custom roms which include kernel, and you can also flash different radios.
It is literally no more difficult, and much better imo. Say if you break your usb port, you aren't screwed like you are with an x10.
I learned everything in about 5 minutes, read one small tutorial.

scoobysnacks said:
sgs2 is awesome.... The screen is vivid, it's dual core so it will be more future proof and because it is the biggest selling android phone of all time there will be tons of development. Also samsung is very well known to support development and custom roms, hiring the cyanogen mod developer, etc...
do not get an arc, there have been a lot of problems with the build, the housing has been cracking for a big number of people who bought them.
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What he said.....or just wait a bit for newer. But the sgs2 is certainly not a bad choice.

I'm probably going to get a sgs2 because I've had my vibrant for the longest time I like the super amoled screen but I wish it was bigger
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Probably the most important thing I want in a phone is support from developers. Xperia Arc doesn't have alot of devs while SGS2 is flooding with devs and custom roms
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Just wait a bit longer and get the google nexus prime
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I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
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Electron2k said:
I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
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HAHAHAHA what??!?
Lol....
my new HTC is ten times faster than x10 and sgs2 destroys it.
Be serious lol

Electron2k said:
I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
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lol
You are a funny man.

i suggest you wait and see the upcoming new releases of phones by other brands. Samsung Galaxy SII seems quite uninteresting. i feel x10 could do better in general. Samsung is not on 'my-favourite-brands' list. but, i have to admit Samsung Galaxy SII is not so bad, better than average smartphones, i believe.

Electron2k said:
I would wait the SGS2 is not that much faster then x10 on latest custom.. Screen is no higher res etc either .. Rather than lock into what is really a minor upgrade for 18 months wait for true decent upgrade
You must be drunk if you think the galaxy s2 is a minor upgrade from the x10. If that's so then the arc is not even an upgrade just a tweak.
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Everyone moving on

Well seems as though its time that ppl are now upgrading and putting their x10 to bed so what is everyone is upgrading what we all going for my choice next month optimus 3d
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Hmm
I will be here for 1-2 years bought x10 a month ago...
I feel bad i must have bought a nexus s or galaxy s...

I'm with Sahib. I got my x10 in March this year, so I'm here until at least March 2013.
Don't know what I'll get next, I think I'll see what Sony Ericsson are offering, and if I don't like it I'll probably go with a nexus. But who knows, I've got a lot of time to think about it between now and then.
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droid incredible 2!

I already got a galaxy s 2
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HTC desire s ...
But I'll be here always
With new ROM s
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Im still with my xperia x10... i want to wait for something better than just a dualcore...

I hope the Xperia Smart becomes more then a concept phone. And hopefully soon!
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i'll be around here too. got mah x10i 6 months ago and i am thinking of making a guide vid on youtube about how to install custom roms.

Hopefully more devs will come onboard
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If you just have a look about others dev forums, you ll notice that X10 ain't forgot yet. X10 makes rules \o/.

chaudman said:
If you just have a look about others dev forums, you ll notice that X10 ain't forgot yet. X10 makes rules \o/.
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pretty close...
100 versions of diff stock roms is hardly interesting lol
Of the three android phones I've owned, x10 had the least development and is dwindling quickly

Moved to SGS and it is the best thing I have done
loads of roms, kernels you can flash while using the phone and speed !!!
Sorry Sony the X10 crashed and burnt

scoobysnacks said:
pretty close...
100 versions of diff stock roms is hardly interesting lol
Of the three android phones I've owned, x10 had the least development and is dwindling quickly
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I think in term of quantity you're definitly right but what about the quality, on that way the last (survivors) X10 devs are pretty good, get friends who are changing roms almost every week on others phones because nothing is really "perfect".

chaudman said:
I think in term of quantity you're definitly right but what about the quality, on that way the last (survivors) X10 devs are pretty good, get friends who are changing roms almost every week on others phones because nothing is really "perfect".
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I don't think I agree...
there are plenty of roms on here like that too

Moved to HTC evo 3d and loving it. Still miss my x10 but it is really nice to just be able to run stock with no real need to root or flash roms because I'm actually happy with the software and the hardware.
Don't get me wrong I miss my x10 enough to still check the forums everyday just to see what's happening
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a2ha said:
Im still with my xperia x10... i want to wait for something better than just a dualcore...
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You have a while to wait.. Dual core is brand new and just being introduced.
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austendale9 said:
You have a while to wait.. Dual core is brand new and just being introduced.
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Some quad core phones are supposedly being released at the end of this year.
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Some quad core phones are supposedly being released at the end of this year.
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What can a dual or quad core phone do that our X10 can't? Better gaming and HD video on a 4 inch screen??? Wow, but not a reason to spend hundreds of dollars... for me anyway.
My X10a will keep me happy until my next free upgrade.

agentJBM said:
What can a dual or quad core phone do that our X10 can't? Better gaming and HD video on a 4 inch screen??? Wow, but not a reason to spend hundreds of dollars... for me anyway.
My X10a will keep me happy until my next free upgrade.
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Lots..
If you have an upgrade now, why not use it on something worthwhile? I would get the sgs2 if I had one for sure
I agree though I wouldn't run out and buy one out of contract.
I actually have an incredible s now and it blows the x10 out of the water! I never realized the difference until I tried a different phone.

ICS Upgrade

Thought id start this thread to create a bit of build up to the upgrade, im a regular arc user so ive still got another month or so to wait but il feel good if the arc s gets theirs on time, which being the end of march could be any day now. Sony seem to be quiet on this, anyone heard anything?

I'm hoping they release the ICS for arc s by the end of this weekend, the suspense is killing me slowly lol. I check this forum and sony blog post every morning.

As they said late March to early April, that could mean the update would between 15 March and 15 April.

Would love to get an update from SE on the progress for the first phones that are due upgrades.
Clearly feeling a little bit left out now that Samsung are releasing theirs.

Hasn't HTC also updated a device?
Sony is behind - again
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I'm very enthusiastic about ICS too but doesn't it mean that we won't have our devices rooted anymore? I've linked tons of apps via Link2SD and my Arc don't have enough space to hold them all.

I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
But I'm also Excited because lots of optimization and features will be available to us, specially that Adreno 205 Driver will be included(I read it somewhere)

mhyke13ph said:
I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
But I'm also Excited because lots of optimization and features will be available to us, specially that Adreno 205 Driver will be included(I read it somewhere)
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I think otherwise. Almost every app I tried is fully compatible with ICS.
Also, Sony has announced the neo L in China and it launches with ICS on board. It uses the same chipset as the arc (MSM8255). Perhaps we could port it when someone gets and uploads the filesystem dump, that is, if the device comes out sooner than the ICS update.

There's nothing on PTCRB yet and updates usually appear on here well in advance of the update actually being pushed. So it could still be weeks away assuming they haven't had any serious issues they need to fix first. It's been 4 weeks since the beta and not a peep from the Sony devs here on XDA which is a shame.
http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=20152

Flo95 said:
Hasn't HTC also updated a device?
Sony is behind - again
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Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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I'm worried when we will have to upgrade to ICS, AFAIK a lot of apps out there is not yet compatible with ICS, until the developer will upgrade the app.
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I don't think it will be a problem. I also have an Asus Transformer TF101, and that got ICS a few weeks back, no application compatibility problems, and it's REALLY quick (it was quick before anyway).

Poker gypsy said:
Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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Is that all samsung/HTC devices or Nexus devices? I think we should know...

Poker gypsy said:
Did you really think that sony would get ICS before samsung and HTC? Sorry sony lovers but you will never get an update before samsung
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Never get an update before samsung? Wasn't the Arc the first phone to sport Gingerbread?
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CrazyPeter said:
Would love to get an update from SE on the progress for the first phones that are due upgrades.
Clearly feeling a little bit left out now that Samsung are releasing theirs.
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yeah i agree, in their blog post they stated "Over the next months we will be keeping you up to date on progress and we will also share video demos of the new software running on 2011 Xperia™ smartphones." it doesnt look good....

Probably see it in April, just my safe guess.
I am really looking forward to being able to force gpu acceleration because I don't like scrolling lag

i hope 2011 xperia can still support jelly bean in the future...

By XDA sure, by sony no. I doubt they will release another major update after this. Look at the X10, got gingerbread update and that was it.

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i hope 2011 xperia can still support jelly bean in the future...
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By XDA sure, by sony no. I doubt they will release another major update after this. Look at the X10, got gingerbread update and that was it.
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There's 50% chance they will do it and if they do, Jelly Bean will probably be the last major update.

Retardo25 said:
Never get an update before samsung? Wasn't the Arc the first phone to sport Gingerbread?
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Nope it was nexus s
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Nope it was nexus s
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Yea, nexus was first, of course. But I think even you understood my point.
Samsung's fleet was updated later...
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Farewell

As with so many other people, my phone contract has expired. As such I now have a beautiful Xperia T to replace my X10 with. However two years together with it can't be so easily forgotten so it is with a heavy heart that I say good bye to this corner of XDA. It has been quite a journey- the debate if we would get gingerbread, about dual touch, the 16m colour screen? I remember it all! I was here when the founders of the X10 community were eager- DoomLord, Trip'n'raver, Z, J rdannar and all the countless others. In the past year however, they have been replaced with the likes of ChampionSwimmer, Amin, WolfBreak, FeraVolt and Vasishta Reddy. So the X10 thrives and survives! Although I will no longer have the device I will still check in ocassionally and if I can share what I have learnt in the past 24 months I will do so gladly. To the Devs all I can say is keep on rocking and make our x10 shine! To the users, obey the forum rules and keep faith
Galcactus,
Barnaby
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The xperia T is an amazing phone,my upgrade is due in November and it will be tough to leave the x10 and the community. My next phone will most likely be a SONY, have fun with your T.
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z28tovette said:
The xperia T is an amazing phone,my upgrade is due in November and it will be tough to leave the x10 and the community. My next phone will most likely be a SONY, have fun with your T.
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just out of curiosity...why Sony as ur next device???

A combination of ui, the specs and that I love Sony's designs! I was so envious of the arc! The t was all I wanted and more! Factor in the my fan boy attitude and the James bond stuff it was ideal! HTC I don't like the ui, same as Samsung. IPhone I say no to on principle and the others aren't nice...
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bashir111 said:
just out of curiosity...why Sony as ur next device???
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I love the UI,I can't see myself using any other brand.
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Hey Galcactus,
I can understand leaving this community isn't nice. There has been a great development and there is a great community-feeling.
I recognize everything you've said. I also was there in the early days (remember the F5 party's on TripNRaver ROMs).
But good stuff ends some days.
Even that my subscription has ended already (beginning of september) I'm still using it, with my x10.
Newer subscriptions cost me more money. So I'm thankfull that there still are dev's for x10, that can give me ICS.
Anyways, have fun with your Mr. T!
UltimateGeppie