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Will we make it?

Bin4ry quitted the forums although he wanted to crack the Bootloader but do you think we will make it whitout him? I feel like no but we will see
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The developers here did enough without opening the bootloader, so my guess is everything is fine here ( most ROMs here are completed with camera fix ) what more do you want?
And quitted is not the word, he just went into another project.. another challenge

I think we should start another thread about whether to start another thread about this topic
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for 2.2 froyo roms, they are basically completed
for 2.3 gingerbread ones, we just have to wait for the gingerbread update (official) so we can use the kernal and drivers available to make them stable.
I don't think our devices will make it to ice cream though..

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I think we should start another thread about whether to start another thread about this topic
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Lol agreed!
Anyways, I feel if one of the other devs ask him for help he will....so I don't think he will be gone completely
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Uuh ice cream :9
I think Z,J and all great devs are able to port it... when it's released ^^
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Mj what you said is true most roms are complete but there is still more things we can do for example 16 millions color thingy and the device is locked to 32 fps and i'd love to overclock my device and for some people facing the low in call volume issue a fix and all these would be done by unlocking the Bootloader.
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i heard if someone updates to the new and official 2.3 it wil make it even harder to crack the bootloader me personaly i wont update to 2.3 beacause i can use other better roms such as cm7 and arc rom

darksherko said:
i heard if someone updates to the new and official 2.3 it wil make it even harder to crack the bootloader me personaly i wont update to 2.3 beacause i can use other better roms such as cm7 and arc rom
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That's the first I've heard of anything bootloader related to SE's 2.3.3. It might be possible to infer that but otherwise nothing is publicly known. *Maybe* rooting it might be more difficult.
2.3 kernel + CM7 mod >> 2.1 kernel + CM7 Mod
Just IMO (might be different but we won't know until July)

I think we should aware something:
1)Bin4ry doesn't crack the bootloader cause the cracking is...hell
What Tue devs do is to crash the normal booting procredures in order to run our custom kernel(the kexec method)
2)I still blieve that we can soon run custom kernel for daily use
Z is trying his best to do that,he had got the radio,overclockint etc,this will be released once the kernel is ready.
The leaving of Bin4ry is a kind of lost,but it doesn't mean it wont be possible to develop the custom kernel
Cheers,
L
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I hope z will make it and yeah its hell of a loss he made alot for us like the flashtool sad loss anyways cant wait for the custom kernel being released!!!!
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Bin4ry is a beast, but don't forget about the other devs!! And Bin4ry says hes gonna stay if we donate $200 to him.

Lol hes gonna get more then that if he actually manage out that custom kernel! And this is sad he wants money for his work like most devs but if he really asked it like this "pay me 200$ and i will stay" its eww!
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laill said:
I think we should aware something:
1)Bin4ry doesn't crack the bootloader cause the cracking is...hell
What Tue devs do is to crash the normal booting procredures in order to run our custom kernel(the kexec method)
2)I still blieve that we can soon run custom kernel for daily use
Z is trying his best to do that,he had got the radio,overclockint etc,this will be released once the kernel is ready.
The leaving of Bin4ry is a kind of lost,but it doesn't mean it wont be possible to develop the custom kernel
Cheers,
L
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Tottaly agree, plus that if j, z or any other dev need some help from bin4ry he helps as fas far as he can.

Didn't mean to make Bin4ry look bad check out this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1011941

shahkam said:
this is sad he wants money for his work like most devs but if he really asked it like this "pay me 200$ and i will stay" its eww!
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erm....that is not the case at all.....Andreas (Bin4ry) is actually saying that he does not feel comfortable with the OP of the thread requesting that money is collected for him. Bin4ry did NOT request the $200 at all.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12466249&postcount=11
just want to make that clear.

Yea I realized that I made him look bad, but Bin4ry actually feels uncomfortable with the situation
My bad I worded that badly

It have been cracked by z!!!!!!! Omfg no kidding i saw a comment in the cm7 rom thread where it said z have made it + there was link of the thread omg!!!!
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SE 2.3 official rom photo leaked

its leaked from a website in mainland china
i cant tell if its true or not
http://www.eprice.com.cn/mobile/talk/3458/4474609/
according to the source
camera ui is the same as 2.1
not as smooth as arc
neocore not exceeding 30fps
He predicts that this rom will be released soon as there re not many bugs
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(Translater mode ON, hopefully my Chinese is still good enough to translate =D)
X10's 2.3.3 software will be released shortly, it is currently being tested.
The firmware is from Arc and Neo, and there are not many bugs, which would mean they could soon release the update.
There are something that we observed:
1. The camera interface is the same as we see on our X10s (referring to the 2.1 update)
2. The user experience is not as smooth as the Arc, which (hopefully) SE would enhance the smoothness of the firmware.
3. The 3D performance is not as good, the FPS is does not go over 30 in Neocore (30fps limit in our kernal)
PS:
1. Forgot to test how many touches are detected.
2. There is not enough time for writer to test, we need to test (play with it) for a while.
3 and 4 are irrelevant to what we are worrying about
5. The writer does not know how to extract the rom, and therefore would not be providing it.
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Great news.
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great they make progress right?

nice to hear that

Seems legit to me. I just find unusual that GB is running on 2.6.29 linux kernel instead of 2.6.32!
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dante-fu said:
Seems legit to me. I just find unusual that GB is running on 2.6.29 linux kernel instead of 2.6.32!
Exactly what I was thinking! I was hoping for.35 planning on getting .32 and apparently settling for a revamped.29
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Lol nice although I'm happy with WB ROM
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dante-fu said:
Seems legit to me. I just find unusual that GB is running on 2.6.29 linux kernel instead of 2.6.32!
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yeah the kernel looks to be relatively the same as the current one....
I'm wondering if it is a fake, the arc launcher with a modified build prop

fiscidtox said:
yeah the kernel looks to be relatively the same as the current one....
I'm wondering if it is a fake, the arc launcher with a modified build prop
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I don't think this is fake look at his BASEBAND! Kernel could be fake though...

I think this is not a fake

I'm sure that after US gets the update XDA Developers will fix it up for us in no time lol

Why, just why would they not update the kernel?

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Why, just why would they not update the kernel?
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Maybe they used XDA developers files

PlayGunsta said:
Maybe they used XDA developers files
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Haha well that would explain it. Uncapped fps here we come!

ooidort said:
Why, just why would they not update the kernel?
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Just makes it easier to fix it up yes O ya soon all have my real "palm tablet" phone in stead of those ones that can't even fit in one hand or pocket lol

I agree, that looks legit. I better start learning my chinese (?).

the setting background is the same as 2.1
The one in arc is a lot different

its f**king 2.1 version with 2.3 gingerbread theme downloaded VIA xda and so tweeks ...........
guys if sony do not come with 16mil colours and uncap fps , thn i think their developers need some help from XDA developers ..........
XDA rockzzz.................

anakinlam95 said:
the setting background is the same as 2.1
The one in arc is a lot different
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It looks legit enough where it shows kernl and other info
Edit: it still has the old kernel :/
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the setting background is the same as 2.1
The one in arc is a lot different
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This is x10n not arc. Besides, it's still being developed, no reason to think it won't change.

Good news:google will make us 2.2 not sony

http://www.tcmagazine.com/tcm/news/...-and-carriers-adopt-android-update-guidelines
Google will help sony to update phones that are not on higher platform but they support it
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Really cool! So if Google makes it, I guess it'll be more like AOSP that SE's customized FW...

Blagus said:
Really cool! So if Google makes it, I guess it'll be more like AOSP that SE's customized FW...
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Yes it wil be but there are not sure will be older devices in it
Somewhere writes new somewhere old to.
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haa.. haa... Google will update it?? interesting.. how S.E will respone it...??? may be S.E will say "no.. Mr.Google, if you update X8 who will buy our w8..?"

evilteater said:
haa.. haa... Google will update it?? interesting.. how S.E will respone it...??? may be S.E will say "no.. Mr.Google, if you update X8 who will buy our w8..?"
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Sony is on the list so he need
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seems like someone can't really understand what is he reading. we're not getting the update, and it's not about google giving update, it's about google forcing these companies to update their phones. but only NEW PHONES (read that text carefully, it's written down there), phones that have been just released, and phones that will be released in future. it's not working backwards, older phones ain't getting upgrades. sorry to turn your dreams into a dust. just a little advice - read the whole text, not just the heading, before you start a thread like this - you made ppl excited for no reason. now i have to make their joy go away

wujekandrzej said:
seems like someone can't really understand what is he reading. we're not getting the update, and it's not about google giving update, it's about google forcing these companies to update their phones. but only NEW PHONES (read that text carefully, it's written down there), phones that have been just released, and phones that will be released in future. it's not working backwards, older phones ain't getting upgrades. sorry to turn your dreams into a dust. just a little advice - read the whole text, not just the heading, before you start a thread like this - you made ppl excited for no reason. now i have to make their joy go away
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+1 it also mentioned that they will get updates if hardware is capable, se have already said x8 wont be updated due to insufficient hardware on x8 personally I don't agree but hey what se says goes regarding hardware they manufactured. It really is a shame.
Thank God for racht, ponnovan, jerpela, dioxanh etc etc they make x8 worth buying XD
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furrabbit.nh said:
+1 it also mentioned that they will get updates if hardware is capable, se have already said x8 wont be updated due to insufficient hardware on x8 personally I don't agree but hey what se says goes regarding hardware they manufactured. It really is a shame.
Thank God for racht, ponnovan, jerpela, dioxanh etc etc they make x8 worth buying XD
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Somewhere else writes old phones too and dont forget that sony thinks it will slow diwn our phones not that is hardware not supported and that does not make sense because 2.2 is lighter rom than 2.1
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then "somewhere else" is wrong. and of course, se is talking bull****, but that has nothing to do with it.
anyway, i'm happy with custom roms from our devs, so it's fine.

wujekandrzej said:
then "somewhere else" is wrong. and of course, se is talking bull****, but that has nothing to do with it.
anyway, i'm happy with custom roms from our devs, so it's fine.
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I would always pick cm roms over the stock roms
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as-mario said:
Somewhere else writes old phones too and dont forget that sony thinks it will slow diwn our phones not that is hardware not supported and that does not make sense because 2.2 is lighter rom than 2.1
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Like I said before se have said many times before x8 will not get froyo EVER at the end of the day not us not Google not anyone can make se update x8 to newer versions of android deal with it. X8 is still a great phone with minicm etc etc
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come on all send email to google and others
if we can't update our phone can undo and denigrate the f**ckin SE instead ;

I'm happy with custom roms, cuz everything works fine. We don't need SE to update it
X8 is excellent phone.
And, to substantiate my statement as soon as our devs crack bootloader and fully working Gingerbread is made this phone will get even better. Worth waitng.
Times are tough and a lot of us just can't affort better phone.
P.S.: @as-mario you're troller... read twice before you post... think before you blink!

I have already sent several messages to SE Brazil and the answer is always the same:
"The Sony Ericsson XPERIA X8 will not be updated because it does not meet the requisites of Android 2.3" - or nearly so, but always the same direction of response -> A short NO!
Perhaps with support from Google the story will change, because only the X10 received the upgrade to 2.3 from Sony Ericsson and many users still use their custom ROMS ...
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I bought my E15a because here in Brazil, it is Android and powerful in its price range ...
I wanted to install a custom ROM on my X8, but this news will motivate me to wait for the update .... hehe!
Greetings from Brazil!

Salo-S said:
I wanted to install a custom ROM on my X8, but this news will motivate me to wait for the update .... hehe!
Greetings from Brazil!
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don't hold your breath...

I think we don't even need a SE stock-ROM. Our devs are doing great work!!!

furrabbit.nh said:
I would always pick cm roms over the stock roms
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Me too....few bugs in many cases, but smoothless !

We should sent emails to GooGle android center about our problem. Google can force SE to update our phone. We can make petition to google. We can make petition at least for unlocking bootloader.
Who don't think it's a great idea?
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The news is probably related to new phones.

hope not only newer phone will supported the update

Something important to say

Hello all X8 users, I have something to say to you.
I have been on the X8 section and testing rom when Ratch and Doixanh almost was the only devs, and we was happy about the "Sense" roms with just basic functionality.
But in August 2011 weve got roms wirh working camera and everything.
But now everything is changed, we have more less developers which is quite sad, because more users are buting new phones right now.
Some of the best devs like Doixanh has left us, bu there is still hope from devs like nAa.
But now its time for me to leave you, and buy Arc S In about 20-25 days.
I will always remember all the fun I had with my X8 and all the great roms and modules.
I think Its quite sad to leave you, but the X8 has just to bad size of the ram for me.
But overall X8 is quite a nice phone, and I think it has the best speaker ever. My buddy has Sensation XL and he thinks X8 has better sound then hes XE.
I like the screen too, really good resolution, but I hate that I have Synaptic.
But how many of you are left, and when are you gonna buy something new?
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Well...i'll see u in arc section later and i hope u will develop for arc s as well with ICS coming in 1-2 weeks more
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I never joined the forum but i used to visit it since march.That was the time we had floyo from racht and minicm form nAa and ponovon with pretty much eveything working.
that was pretty hard time.Now the development is quite stable.we have paul and nAa left(Ill be dev someday,when ill grow up )
I will remain in this forum till october...

I'll be on the x8 forums til October or December, unsure where I'll go.
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It is a sad day where a dev like you are leaving XDA X8 section, but your contributions were of high value and hopefully you will keep visiting us.

well all i can say is thanks for everything you have done
but i will stay here as long as my x8 is working. then probably buy Xperia S, P, U or sola...

Bro dont go...read my PM

Good Luck !
The most pathetic thing for me in this community is, when there are people who will be leaving this community, especially people like you.
But I must accept it, And Good Luck, Oyeah! dont forget to visit us here when you have a free time Dude!
But how many of you are left, and when are you gonna buy something new?
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There is nothing I need to buy for now,
I Love My X8 & Htc evo 4G

Good luck out there! So, you stopped ICS development?
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I will buy something other, when my xperia will be broken... for now o have it like for 1,5 yrs and its still OK so much people say that touchscreens are bad because they are broken really quickly. But not for me every phone in my life i had like for 6 months - to a 1 year and it was broken. Now i have my lovely x8 for 1,5 yrs, and i dont see any sign that it will be broken in near time so i will not buy any other phone untill my x8 is working
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as long my x8 working..i will use it..

I am not gonna buy another phone as long as I don't afford the money so I will continue with x8 until it will break to pieces.... I can't say that I am not satisfied with it, I would say that I have enjoy myself a loooooooooooot!!!
Actually I love it!!!
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sold my x8 going to buy an x10 i will still visit the x8 forums i bought it when we had racht floyo battery drain problem camera app support problem phone was too laggy the only good rom at that time was stock rom now we have unlocked bootloader roms twice as faster and better then of stock rom we have a fully working flash player and ICS is on its way

Good news for stock users:
I will continue my ICS for stockkernel
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Good news for stock users:
I will continue my ICS for stockkernel
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nice to hear!!keep it up!

I'm on a 2 year contract I will get upgrade in January 2013 but even then I will keep my x8 as a my son would like it for game's. And in all fairness the Dev's here did much better job then se at giving us all updates way past se would give us. Thanks to all the past and current developers in the x8 community best wishes to you all.
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DevStaffAndroid said:
Good news for stock users:
I will continue my ICS for stockkernel
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You are the choosen one! Keep up the good work brother!!

x8 is a great device started by running android 1.6(donut) and it's still working with android 2.3(gingerbread) maybe fully function with v4(ICS) in next few months. What's a great device! But it was built for v1.6(cpu 600mhz but dev make it be able to overclock to more than 700mhz, ram 256 but 184 accessible) so i have to say that newer device can run smoother as they were built for newer version. Anw X8 is my first android phone and it's a great device to me!

monivan said:
x8 is a great device started by running android 1.6(donut) and it's still working with android 2.3(gingerbread) maybe fully function with v4(ICS) in next few months. What's a great device! But it was built for v1.6(cpu 600mhz but dev make it be able to overclock to more than 700mhz, ram 256 but 184 accessible) so i have to say that newer device can run smoother as they were built for newer version. Anw X8 is my first android phone and it's a great device to me!
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Nice,
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Good news for stock users:
I will continue my ICS for stockkernel
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U r The chosen
keep going

Ice crean sandwich is a good idea!

Hi folks
guys i wanna ur recommendations about new ics ice cream sandwich... is it worthy to update? Last week i was very close to installed on my gonte but i told myself i should Ask u guys before do it. And i have some questions i didn't find any answers ....my questions are... can i read arabic and Japanese languages on it. Or i should waiting for arabic ics ? and i'm suffering from pinkish and greenish on white background is it still in ice cream sandwich too or isn't existing any more....
Thanks for reading waiting ur responds guys
Regards
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One man's meat is another man's poison...
Some of us like ICS but others dosen't... seriously it reali boils down to each individual..
As for language...
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Ummm
Well the unethical way of update release by Samsung made us all confused.. If they would have released it like their prior updates all regions or more than one region then we might have upgraded our devices. But currently their is only one xxlpy Germany experimental release so I am not at all interested.

If you don't have a particular need to upgrade to ICS, then you should probably wait until it gets released locally, or you decide you have a need.
I personally won't be going back to GB, because I like the better external keyboard support (it recognises the CTRL and ALT keys) and also the USB midi support, both of which don't work in GB.
The UI tweaks and snappier response are good, but they're not going to let you don anything you can't do already.
If there's an app you want to use that is ICS only, then that might be a reason to upgrade too.
LPF (which I have found to be a lot better than LPY, in terms of UI speed and battery performance) is a wipe ROM though, so you need to spend a bit of time restoring everything.
If you wait for the OTA release, it might will hopefully not be a wipe ROM, which might make life easier for you.
HTH,
Rich

Hello,
Personally I've been on ICS for almost a month now and I love it, first midnote than Crisckelo (V2 and V3) but now I love the Kingdroid ROM the battery doesn't die and it looks even better with Apex launcher!!
I could not go back to gingerbread!! I haven't tried the stock ICS (LPY or LPF) but with their bloatware the battery would not suit me !!

I can confirm it reads arabic.perfectly. dunno abt japanese.....the rom is so far very stable nd better looking....pinkish display issue solved 90%.......sd card readng bug sometimes solved by unmountng then mountng.

Thanx guys for responding it means alot for me,,,,,
Best regards
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nero-220 said:
Thanx guys for responding it means alot for me,,,,,
Best regards
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I personally have gone back to GB (rocket ROM) which in terms of battery and responsiveness is better than any ICS ROM I tried. Also there are apps that don't run well on ICS. I guess in a few months time when all official ICS ota's had been released and the developers have had time to tweak them then ICS will be better.
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Say no to ICS for now
DOnt go to ICS as yet...wait for the eMMC thingi to be resolved first man!

After testing ics on gb again and really happy. And for sure that i want go back to ics a long time.
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joshua said:
One man's meat is another man's poison...
Some of us like ICS but others dosen't... seriously it reali boils down to each individual..
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I take it yours is a custom rom. my stock ics looks nowt like yours
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mancuk29 said:
I take it yours is a custom rom. my stock ics looks nowt like yours
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Yes mine is a custom rom from CM9 n also in tablet form...
I dun tik the stock ICS will b the same though...
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FYI since I never saw that mentioned (especially NOT in Samsung ads, for both the S2 and the Note...)
GB = ONE core used, linux 2.6 non-SMP
ICS = ALL cores used, linux 3.0 SMP, but it enables the superbrick defect bug