Sprint is stupid. - Epic 4G General

"Let's pay $15 billion for the iphone but be hard pressed to find $2 billion to upgrade and $10 billion to outbuy tmobile"
When is network vision going to bare fruit? All I've seen is a massive drawdown in speeds and sprints stock nosediving due to an $800 million deficit. But yet they can give 15 billion to apple for theiphone...I wonder how much rodgers and us cellular paid to have the iphone on their regional networks?
I hope they atleast leave lte unlimited and eventuallly catch up to verizons lte coverage
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Their hope is that the $15 Billion spent on buying the iPhone itself will lead to more customers especially since they are the only unlimited carrier. It seems to be working and while they are still losing money, they will gain money at the end of these people's contracts most likely.
EDIT: And hopefully that will fund LTE expansion and everything else they need. T-Mobile is the number four carrier partially because it does not have the iPhone and since the EVO, Sprint has had more blockbuster phones than T-Mobile.

xboxfanj said:
Their hope is that the $15 Billion spent on buying the iPhone itself will lead to more customers especially since they are the only unlimited carrier. It seems to be working and while they are still losing money, they will gain money at the end of these people's contracts most likely.
EDIT: And hopefully that will fund LTE expansion and everything else they need. T-Mobile is the number four carrier partially because it does not have the iPhone and since the EVO, Sprint has had more blockbuster phones than T-Mobile.
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Funny to the fact that their whole lets spend 15 Billion for the iPhone was kind of stupid seeing how their most bought phone still is the S2 or aka Epic Touch

XxLostSoulxX said:
Funny to the fact that their whole lets spend 15 Billion for the iPhone was kind of stupid seeing how their most bought phone still is the S2 or aka Epic Touch
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I doubt that. Sprint had sold 1.8 Million iPhones in February, so probably even more now, and I doubt they've sold 2 Million Epic Touches.

xboxfanj said:
I doubt that. Sprint had sold 1.8 Million iPhones in February, so probably even more now, and I doubt they've sold 2 Million Epic Touches.
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ive asked several reps around me those that are smart and knowledgeable unlike others and they have told me all, that the Epic Touch is still the most sold device the iPhone is up their simply "because its iPhone i want one i want one" type of people.

What's extra stupid is them releasing LTE in markets first that already have WiMax instead of getting it out in places with no 4G at all. I live in the biggest city in the state, granted it's no Chicago or NY but there's close to a million people in the metro area. Big blue and red have LTE here, even US Cellular does now. No idea if TMobile does as I don't know a single person who uses them. All my contracts are up in Sept. If they don't at least hint of LTE coming in the next year by then it'll will be real tempting to take my 10 years of business elsewhere even if it is a bit cheaper.

XxLostSoulxX said:
ive asked several reps around me those that are smart and knowledgeable unlike others and they have told me all, that the Epic Touch is still the most sold device the iPhone is up their simply "because its iPhone i want one i want one" type of people.
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It really doesn't matter what type of people they are. There's only one type of person to a business and that's a paying person. The people who buy an iphone every year are exactly the people sprint wants.
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somedude0608 said:
It really doesn't matter what type of people they are. There's only one type of person to a business and that's a paying person. The people who buy an iphone every year are exactly the people sprint wants.
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oh i couldn't agree more because it's money coming in i was stating to the fact that they'll get money from them because of the types of people who are like that, but its still funny that S2 still has sold more units daily rather than the iPhone

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I doubt that. Sprint had sold 1.8 Million iPhones in February, so probably even more now, and I doubt they've sold 2 Million Epic Touches.
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Look at that article on engadget... it was a bad move to buy the iPhones they're not making enough to balance out the cost. CEO took a hit for that one.
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If sprint does get some exclusive iphone hardware out of the 15b and that leads to massive customer increases it would be worth it.
Like what if sprint is the only one to get a 4.5inch screen iphone?

They were late to the game with the 4S and Iphone's period. But if the Iphone 5 is released at the same time as the other carriers, it will be playing on an even playing field but the only one with unlimited data.
It's gonna be a sad day when sprint switches to tiered. But then again, if you are already a customer, you should be grandfathered in.

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"Let's pay $15 billion for the iphone but be hard pressed to find $2 billion to upgrade and $10 billion to outbuy tmobile"
When is network vision going to bare fruit? All I've seen is a massive drawdown in speeds and sprints stock nosediving due to an $800 million deficit. But yet they can give 15 billion to apple for theiphone...I wonder how much rodgers and us cellular paid to have the iphone on their regional networks?
I hope they atleast leave lte unlimited and eventuallly catch up to verizons lte coverage
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The Network Vision is rolling out on time, in some areas faster.
I think we get a "I Hate", or "Sprint is Stupid" thread about once a month. I know these facts have been covered before, but never the less. Not to necessarily point at this OP, but you'd think some of our users would think of a better title by now. We need a "Just Venting because my 3G is slow" thread and sticky it.
P.S. Check out the site in my Signature. Not only will it answer your questions, but there is a interview with Dan Hesse there where he personally answers questions like above. He also explains why there are going the path that they are. Fun reading...

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Why does Sprint continually lose money every quarter?

Just read over on Engadget how Sprint lost $760 million last quarter. Why do you think they continually do so bad? Is it because of poor sales or poor business/financial decisions (debt left over from merger or otherwise)? Their coverage is awesome, their 3G speeds are often better than Verizon's, they have 4G on tap, customer service has never given me any trouble, I can upgrade my phone annually, and the plans offer way more features and are still cheaper than the competition. The list is endless, there's really no other carrier I'd rather be on. Do others not feel the same way? Is their marketing failing?
I feel the same way. Their advertisements always seem good. I feel like they don't advertise as heavily as any of the other carriers here.
Maybe from all the expanding and changes they've done? Don't know though. I haven't had any problems at all. Their customer service always corrects problems, even crediting a lot of charges back.. and coverage is good. A lot happier then I was with at&t
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I'm sure the cost of upgrading to 4G has a lot to do with it. Plus I am ripping them off with my unlimited everything for $65 a month!!
Profit for a business is bad...profit=have to pay taxes!
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Profit for a business is bad...profit=have to pay taxes!
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Sound your logic is not..
Sprint screwed themselves and are still recovering from that terrible decision to merge with nextel.
It's because Sprint spends billions of dollars on Nascar instead of it's network.
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It's because Sprint spends billions of dollars on Nascar instead of it's network.
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ROFL!!!!!!!
UrbanMuppet said:
It's because Sprint spends billions of dollars on Nascar instead of it's network.
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Couldn't have said it better myself.
It wasnt until recently that they had good phones. I remember a few years back, most of their phones were garbage. Everyone jumpped ship and moved to ATT due to the fact that you could pull the sim card, and switch phones as you pleased. All the phones from Asia were flocking over to the US and everyone had some new Nokia, Ericson, or some other great phone.
Sprint had junk. Some of us probably rode that out, and FINALLY they are getting some good phones...I've been on Sprint for almost 12 years now. I did move to VZW for 2 years, but ended up coming back to Sprint.
makes you wonder how they are even sustainable loosing that type of money every quarter.
The Nextel merger is STILL hurting them badly. Plus, they offer the cheapest plans but for the longest time they did not have the devices people wanted. Now they have the devices but people are stuck in contracts with other carriers. Another thing is advertisement and word of mouth. Sprint has never had the most eye-catching commercials. Us former Palm Pre users know the effect bad or no advertisement can hurt you. And I agree, the Nascar thing is wasted money when you have to spend more money rolling out 4G nationwide.
nukedukem said:
I'm sure the cost of upgrading to 4G has a lot to do with it. Plus I am ripping them off with my unlimited everything for $65 a month!!
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They're ripping you off charging you $65 a month for what cost them >$10 a month actually (after negating handset subsidies of course).
davebu said:
They're ripping you off charging you $65 a month for what cost them >$10 a month actually (after negating handset subsidies of course).
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Yeah, it's obvious Sprint is making a killing off of their subscribers since they are rolling in profits *eyeroll*
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ROFL!!!!!!!
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Has ANYONE even clicked on the Nascar icon on their phone?
I suspect no one.
Nascar fans are not technology nerds like us.
Customer service is complete garbage where I'm at.
Compared to other company's there plans are pretty cheap 10 for data with smartphone (or is it 4g) and mostly everyone else is 25-30.
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My opinion is that when they took nextel under their wing, nextel was bleeding money like a stuck pig. I think nextel is still bleeding, and now they are siphoning sprint dry.
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You gotta be careful when trying to rescue a drowning person. They might pull you under while trying to save themselves.
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1. Inexpensive plans
2. Good customer service
3. Yearly phone upgrades
Its sad but maybe being a "better" company can actually hurt your bottom line. Don't forget that Verizon lost money last quarter too.

Check this ad out...makes me wonder?

Here's the ad...what do you all think?
http://www.sprintusers.com/quote-rem...ntUsers.com)
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Oh...wow...Sprint removed it that quick....It basically stated that Sprint has removed or is in the process of removing the quote about the Evo is better than the iphone, in it's commercials. So the article speculated that maybe Sprint is in talks with Apple about possibly bringing the iphone to Sprint. It also stated that this was the same process that Verizon went through...they first made these commercials going against the iphone/att, then they stopped and now they have the iphone.
Awesome, I'm one of the ones that would actually like an iPhone on Sprint.
All the plan changes make sense as well, but it could be for something else.
Here's another link:
http://www.beatweek.com/news/8051-v...rint-to-drop-derogatory-iphone-quote-from-ad/
http://www.sprintusers.com/quote-removed-from-ad/
another link, no video though. i haven't payed enough attention to the commercials lately to see if it is there or not
please, no iphone on sprint.
that would kill htc. then we'd get less and less android htc killer super phones.
TorxT3D said:
please, no iphone on sprint.
that would kill htc. then we'd get less and less android htc killer super phones.
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The iPhone is out on manyyy carriers in other countries, and it looks like HTC is doing just fine.
Htc was in business way before the iphone was released so they'll be ok.
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So now all of us customers who were/are loyal to Sprint are getting screwed over with all these new plans/perk changes because they want to bring the damn iPhone to the network. Great.
I did notice the iPhone thing gone from the ad, but I dont think apple will release the iphone on sprint. I suppose they could, it just doesnt seem likely to me and this is not much to base an assumption on
It's coming. Since Verizon has a CDMA iPhone, Sprint will have it as well. Apple needs to get that darn phone on as many carriers as possible since they are being hammered by Android phones on ALL major carriers. It makes good business since for Apple, Verizon & Sprint BUT not us customers since it raises our plans and Sprint will eventually goto a tiered data plan instead of unlimited like Verizon did. It's just a matter of time. They make money, we grab our ankles
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Htc was in business way before the iphone was released so they'll be ok.
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Don't you have a G2? just wondering
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I have a evo too.
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ghodzilla5150 said:
It's coming. Since Verizon has a CDMA iPhone, Sprint will have it as well. Apple needs to get that darn phone on as many carriers as possible since they are being hammered by Android phones on ALL major carriers. It makes good business since for Apple, Verizon & Sprint BUT not us customers since it raises our plans and Sprint will eventually goto a tiered data plan instead of unlimited like Verizon did. It's just a matter of time. They make money, we grab our ankles
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At least someone understands how businesses work. It will come soon trust me. They are basically taxing us so they could prepare for the iPhone and build out their network. For all you know they could be doing field trials now with the iPhone.
If it comes to Sprint then I'm definitely getting one. You can't argue that Apple did something right. They have an excellent product and apps to back it up.
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So now all of us customers who were/are loyal to Sprint are getting screwed over with all these new plans/perk changes because they want to bring the damn iPhone to the network. Great.
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Well.. quite a few people that have Evo's/Epics in areas with no 4G and had to pay the extra $10 felt the same way....
ghodzilla5150 said:
It's coming. Since Verizon has a CDMA iPhone, Sprint will have it as well. Apple needs to get that darn phone on as many carriers as possible since they are being hammered by Android phones on ALL major carriers. It makes good business since for Apple, Verizon & Sprint BUT not us customers since it raises our plans and Sprint will eventually goto a tiered data plan instead of unlimited like Verizon did. It's just a matter of time. They make money, we grab our ankles
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Verizon is on tiered data plans and Sprint is still simply unlimited yet you think Sprint will go to tiered instead of staying unlimited like Verizon? Why do you think Sprint is adding the $10 to all smartphones? To stay unlimited and not make some BS 25-200MB plan.
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Well.. quite a few people that have Evo's/Epics in areas with no 4G and had to pay the extra $10 felt the same way....
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I know, I was one of them. I have an EVO since day 1 and just NOW getting 4G in my area (7 months). So you are preaching to the choir.
DirtyShroomz said:
Verizon is on tiered data plans and Sprint is still simply unlimited yet you think Sprint will go to tiered instead of staying unlimited like Verizon? Why do you think Sprint is adding the $10 to all smartphones? To stay unlimited and not make some BS 25-200MB plan.
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Yeah right Corporate Dude. Sprint is playing Monkey See, Monkey Do. Sprint CANNOT be trusted right now (they are already yanking away a major selling point from last year, why should they be trusted at all). I believe ALL of these DAMN carriers are in collusion and are Price Fixing with back door deals. Tiered Data is coming since Verizon and AT&T did it, now Sprint will do it to and then try and sell it to their remaining customers as it's a good thing
You can tell your masters not all of us are Dumb and buying their BS.
ghodzilla5150 said:
Yeah right Corporate Dude. Sprint is playing Monkey See, Monkey Do. Sprint CANNOT be trusted right now (they are already yanking away a major selling point from last year, why should they be trusted at all). I believe ALL of these DAMN carriers are in collusion and are Price Fixing with back door deals. Tiered Data is coming since Verizon and AT&T did it, now Sprint will do it to and then try and sell it to their remaining customers as it's a good thing
You can tell your masters not all of us are Dumb and buying their BS.
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Your funny that is all
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[Q] Leaving Sprint

Hello,
For starters, my apologies if this has been asked before. I took a quick look at the "similar threads" but none seemed to hit this angle.
I signed a two-year contract with Sprint last June. I bought the EVO 4G (thus my post on this particular forum) and paid $299 for it (forgot to mail in the rebate - my fault.) I live in Tulsa, OK, and we weren't on the list of cities with 4G at the time, but Sprint was rapidly expanding its "the nation's first 4G network" and I wanted to be a part of that. Plus I'd come from AT&T and an iPhone 3G, and I'd had enough of Apple.
Anyway, searches on Sprint's site regarding WiMax coming to Tulsa always resulted in a "give us your e-mail address and we'll let you know!" page. So I gave them my e-mail address, lived with Sprint's just-ok 3G speeds combined with spotty reception, and I waited. Don't-bother-trying-to-stream-music-in-the-car-or-use-data-at-some-intersections spotty. Often couldn't send a text message from my one-level, ground floor office full of windows in the middle of town, spotty. It'd be worth it when they flipped on that WiMax switch.
Well, fast forward 15 months, and I've put in my e-mail address about a dozen times. Verizon's LTE network has been live here for months. AT&T's faux-G HSPA+ is available here. Hell, T-Mobile's is even live here according to their website, though I don't know anyone on T-Mobile. Still, I've waited.
Recently I read that Sprint's future direction is LTE-Advanced. That sounds lovely, but I've read that WiMax will "continue to be supported for several more years due to the contract with Clearwire." Sprint would be stupid to dump more money into the WiMax network, but where does that leave me? The customer who paid an ETF to jump on the "first 4G network" and buy the "iPhone killer running Android?" I don't have WiMax now and it's clear that I never will. My phone doesn't have an LTE radio so that does me no good. I bought a ticket to ride a train that never left the station.
/rant
For the record, I never voiced my reception complaints with Sprint. Always thought it'd get better. Lesson learned.
Anyway, the point of all this - in light of Sprint's announcement that they're moving forward with LTE-Advanced (and, one assumes, not dumping money into also building out WiMax) - do you think I'd have grounds to demand the ETF be waived? I almost feel like I've been subject to a bait-and-switch, except they just kept the bait and never gave me anything else.
Many people don't realize that the salespeople layered on a whole bunch of "4G will be here in a couple of months..." stories when peddling the EVO 4G around launch time....Especially with the $10 4G tax that came with it....(now a moot point since the 4G tax got relabeled a $10 "smartphone" tax).
I was told that Omaha was "next on the list", "eminent", "in the pre-roll out" phase, etc. etc. etc. It never happened.
I have been with Sprint for over 10 years....And in the space of the last year and a half, I have seen them go South BIG TIME....In more ways than I would like to elaborate here.
And "unlimited" is their last perk....Well guess what, unlimited 10-25kbps (downtown Omaha) is nothing to write home about folks.
sog1971 said:
Many people don't realize that the salespeople layered on a whole bunch of "4G will be here in a couple of months..." stories when peddling the EVO 4G around launch time....Especially with the $10 4G tax that came with it....(now a moot point since the 4G tax got relabeled a $10 "smartphone" tax).
I was told that Omaha was "next on the list", "eminent", "in the pre-roll out" phase, etc. etc. etc. It never happened.
I have been with Sprint for over 10 years....And in the space of the last year and a half, I have seen them go South BIG TIME....In more ways than I would like to elaborate here.
And "unlimited" is their last perk....Well guess what, unlimited 10-25kbps (downtown Omaha) is nothing to write home about folks.
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MLPosey27 said:
Hello,
Anyway, the point of all this - in light of Sprint's announcement that they're moving forward with LTE-Advanced (and, one assumes, not dumping money into also building out WiMax) - do you think I'd have grounds to demand the ETF be waived? I almost feel like I've been subject to a bait-and-switch, except they just kept the bait and never gave me anything else.
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In short you wont be able to pull this. 4G is considered a feature... as long as you have regular service Sprint is doing its part on the contract... now if the calls drop like crazy and you dont get any signal you might have a way out..
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i like your theory. However Sprint will say in fact you do have access to 4g wimax if you go to any city that has wimax like denver, colorado. They may also point out that you knew when you bought the phone that you did not have 4g and that unless their was in writing in your contract that 4g wimax service would be available by a certain date then you may not have a leg to stand on. You can try to start a class action suit and see what happens....
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CAS are completely and utterly useless. The only ones who benefit from these are the lawyers who get paid in the thousands or even millions while the ppl they represent not only get a rate hike (hey someone has to foot the bill for the amount the company paid to the lawyers or did you think the stockholders would be happy to know their money was used to pay off the suit?) but they get a measly coupon for like 10% off any accessory or a $2 credit and no noticeable change to the terms they were trying to fight against.
If you really want to make a difference all you need is to get out of Sprint either by paying the ETF or waiting patiently for another 'considerable' change to the contract's terms as they seem to pop every 6 months or so and spread the word...
I know. I, along with thousands, if not millions are in this sanger boat as you. Got mine Nov 2010. Was promised 4g by march, nothing. Then it was july, nothing. Then end of summer, nothing. I had about written it off then I heard about the lte network. So I won't have 4g for maybe another year. Eh, whatever. We can ***** all we want, its not going to make things happen any faster. Would be great if 3g was as fast as it used to be to make the wait easier. Its either wait it out or go pay out the ass for verizon or att, neither of which are worth the price IMO, especially att. Guess I'll just wait like everyone else.
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You may want to try this. You can use it to get better signal if you are in an area with ishtty sprint coverage OR use it to get kicked outta your contract if that's what you're looking for
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You can try to start a class action suit and see what happens....
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No, actually you can't. Read Sprint's terms and conditions. Specifically, the section regarding dispute resolution.
http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml
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I thought I remembered reading an email from Sprint that basically let you out of your contract with ETF's since they changed the terms of the contract. Might just call and ask.
snowboarda42 said:
I thought I remembered reading an email from Sprint that basically let you out of your contract with ETF's since they changed the terms of the contract. Might just call and ask.
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Yes, if they change the terms of your contract you get the opportunity to get out with no ETF. I don't think they have changed any contract terms recently though.
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MLPosey27 said:
Hello,
For starters, my apologies if this has been asked before. I took a quick look at the "similar threads" but none seemed to hit this angle.
I signed a two-year contract with Sprint last June. I bought the EVO 4G (thus my post on this particular forum) and paid $299 for it (forgot to mail in the rebate - my fault.) I live in Tulsa, OK, and we weren't on the list of cities with 4G at the time, but Sprint was rapidly expanding its "the nation's first 4G network" and I wanted to be a part of that. Plus I'd come from AT&T and an iPhone 3G, and I'd had enough of Apple.
Anyway, searches on Sprint's site regarding WiMax coming to Tulsa always resulted in a "give us your e-mail address and we'll let you know!" page. So I gave them my e-mail address, lived with Sprint's just-ok 3G speeds combined with spotty reception, and I waited. Don't-bother-trying-to-stream-music-in-the-car-or-use-data-at-some-intersections spotty. Often couldn't send a text message from my one-level, ground floor office full of windows in the middle of town, spotty. It'd be worth it when they flipped on that WiMax switch.
Well, fast forward 15 months, and I've put in my e-mail address about a dozen times. Verizon's LTE network has been live here for months. AT&T's faux-G HSPA+ is available here. Hell, T-Mobile's is even live here according to their website, though I don't know anyone on T-Mobile. Still, I've waited.
Recently I read that Sprint's future direction is LTE-Advanced. That sounds lovely, but I've read that WiMax will "continue to be supported for several more years due to the contract with Clearwire." Sprint would be stupid to dump more money into the WiMax network, but where does that leave me? The customer who paid an ETF to jump on the "first 4G network" and buy the "iPhone killer running Android?" I don't have WiMax now and it's clear that I never will. My phone doesn't have an LTE radio so that does me no good. I bought a ticket to ride a train that never left the station.
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For the record, I never voiced my reception complaints with Sprint. Always thought it'd get better. Lesson learned.
Anyway, the point of all this - in light of Sprint's announcement that they're moving forward with LTE-Advanced (and, one assumes, not dumping money into also building out WiMax) - do you think I'd have grounds to demand the ETF be waived? I almost feel like I've been subject to a bait-and-switch, except they just kept the bait and never gave me anything else.
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Well if you want to opt out of the contract you should try the PRL mod it lets you roam on verizons towers and sprint wont like that and will cancel ur contract if you dont mind.
Or just wait for LightSquared LTE its gonna be the best of all .
Heres some videos to keep your hopes up. which should be up by mid 2012.
http://youtu.be/NbZVmsm09R4
http://youtu.be/gdbGpul7QAA
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And "unlimited" is their last perk....Well guess what, unlimited 10-25kbps (downtown Omaha) is nothing to write home about folks.
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I just talked to Sprint about lousy 3g speeds here in Kansas City Missouri. My contract is done in February, and so am I. Verizon here I come.
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I am pretty disgusted with Sprint as well. I live in Omaha, NE. I have a 4G signal about 2 miles from my apartment but they won't flip the switch to allow the whole city to have it. Verizon has had 4G LTE in Lincoln and Omaha since September. This is beyond unacceptable, its retarded. It amazes me that they want to alienate their small customer base in the Midwest, especially since they are based out of Overland Park, KS. Since they decided to spend money on Apple and the iPhone instead of carry through with their promise of WiMax in 2011, I hope they are bought out by Verizon or that they go bankrupt. I have terrible data speeds and I am flat out sick of Sprint's lying.
You might have to pay more for att or Verizon but I rather pay for better service then deal with sprints lousy service I'm done. I would pay only $10.00 more with att so not breaking the bank.
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Go to t-mobile I live in a small city and look at my speeds on there HSPA +
BTW im on there $30 plans go on their wesite and check it out
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Will it take 2 more years for Sprint to bring their new LTE to most of the country?
Just wanted to let you guys know I called sprint and got the $10 data charge waived for one month due to slow data speeds. I had them look at my data usage over the last couple months and told them the drop was due to slow speeds.
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[...] they just kept the bait and never gave me anything else.
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^ this
This has me so mad @ Sprint. When my contract is up this spring, I'm not sure if I'll be staying with Sprint.
MLPosey27 said:
Anyway, the point of all this - in light of Sprint's announcement that they're moving forward with LTE-Advanced (and, one assumes, not dumping money into also building out WiMax) - do you think I'd have grounds to demand the ETF be waived? I almost feel like I've been subject to a bait-and-switch, except they just kept the bait and never gave me anything else.
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Nope, I'm in your precise situation and it's why I'm doing everything I can to rape their network until I'm dropped. Check out that "hack the htc evo" thread. They did not represent themselves honestly.
I'm about 3 hours north of Sprint's 4G here in Ohio. I signed on because they said that in about 6 months (from the time I signed) my area should be up and running. I should have paid attention to the "should be" part.
SharkUW said:
Nope, I'm in your precise situation and it's why I'm doing everything I can to rape their network until I'm dropped. Check out that "hack the htc evo" thread. They did not represent themselves honestly.
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If you aren't happy with Sprint's service, why don't you just switch carriers? All you are doing is driving up costs for the rest of us.
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Sprint launches early upgrade promo

In an industry where customer churn can be likened to the fearsome troll under the bridge, Sprint has launched a program designed to keep its favored subscribers around for another two years. While not everyone is eligible -- those who've upgraded less than eight months ago, corporate outfits and those in collections need not inquire -- the program lets customers buy their way out of their current commitment and become eligible for a new, subsidized handset. The promotion begins February 12th and is set to run through the 14th of April, where the amount you pay correlates to the time since your last upgrade. So if you're currently pining for the Epic 4G Touch or the iPhone 4S, just give your local Sprint store a call this Sunday. They just may be able to hook you up.
Source:http://www.engadget.com/2012/02/09/s...upgrade-promo/
And you know why sprint is offering this? Because they have no plans on releasing any new devices any time soon. So appease their customers, they're giving option to cheaply upgrade...... My theory Anyway
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Sprint might be switching over to GSM, or at least dual-radioing their phones, what with Google taking down all CDMA support from the Android developers' page. (a guy can hope)
xfullmetal17 said:
Sprint might be switching over to GSM, or at least dual-radioing their phones, what with Google taking down all CDMA support from the Android developers' page. (a guy can hope)
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Lol that will be the day, cuz that would change so many things.
Just called sprint and neither of the two reps I talked to know anything about it. why is sprint always last to know? Lol
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And you know why sprint is offering this? Because they have no plans on releasing any new devices any time soon. So appease their customers, they're giving option to cheaply upgrade...... My theory Anyway
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Probably because people like me, who have a family plan and are getting a discount through work, are able to cancel this month with no ETF fee.
They are probably launching this to lure those people who might leave to stay with Sprint.
I'll soon be saying goodbye to my trusty EVO 4G and picking up a free Galaxy S II on T-Mobile tomorrow.
Unfortunately there isn't really anything worthwhile to chose from. I'd rather wait until after some LTE phones are out.
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Probably because people like me, who have a family plan and are getting a discount through work, are able to cancel this month with no ETF fee.
They are probably launching this to lure those people who might leave to stay with Sprint.
I'll soon be saying goodbye to my trusty EVO 4G and picking up a free Galaxy S II on T-Mobile tomorrow.
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There are letting family plans cancel? Even if your contract isnt up?
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And you know why sprint is offering this? Because they have no plans on releasing any new devices any time soon. So appease their customers, they're giving option to cheaply upgrade...... My theory Anyway
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I'm inclined to agree with this. Not that it's in any way surprising. Makes sense.
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Too little too late IMO. Sprint is losing tons of money. The only reason I stay with them is unlimited data, and when my contract is up in 2 months they better have the Sprint Nexus out and give it to me for a very good deal.
Verizon has better coverage, fast LTE and the Nexus - Sprint need to compete with that for the tons of people who were original Evo4G customers.
But the Verizon Nexus will not be capable of roms compiled from source due to CDMA support from Google being pulled (same as sprint), as per my understanding.
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My kingdom for a Sprint Nexus.
This article seems to have went away..Anyone know where some info is on this? the link in the OP doesnt go anywhere but to the main site page now.
While the Nexus seems great, you have to be anxious for possible lte phones from sprint like the HTC Zeta (drool), HTC Edge, and the Sammy Galaxy SIII.
It is possible that Sprint will pick up at least one of these Q2 in 2012. After MWC we should know more.
I have been with sprint almost 20 years now, and 2 years ago they hooked me good with the Evo. Man I hope they get an equal replacement for everyone who purchased one 2 years ago and is ready for an upgrade.
It would be cool to have a phone as powerful as my Transformer Prime, and with better wifi....lol
A man can dream right?
mbaseball3 said:
And you know why sprint is offering this? Because they have no plans on releasing any new devices any time soon. So appease their customers, they're giving option to cheaply upgrade...... My theory Anyway
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I really hope that's not the truth. I'm excited to hear what the specs of the next EVO are going to be.... hopefully a quad core with a 4.5-4.65 in screen. That's the only way I'm going to use my upgrade.
*Edit*- And of course LTE.
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While the Nexus seems great, you have to be anxious for possible lte phones from sprint like the HTC Zeta (drool), HTC Edge, and the Sammy Galaxy SIII.
It is possible that Sprint will pick up at least one of these Q2 in 2012. After MWC we should know more.
I have been with sprint almost 20 years now, and 2 years ago they hooked me good with the Evo. Man I hope they get an equal replacement for everyone who purchased one 2 years ago and is ready for an upgrade.
It would be cool to have a phone as powerful as my Transformer Prime, and with better wifi....lol
A man can dream right?
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I'm right there with you. None of the current phones seem like an upgrade worthy of replacing my EVO 4G. I'm holding out for an HTC beast.
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And you know why sprint is offering this? Because they have no plans on releasing any new devices any time soon. So appease their customers, they're giving option to cheaply upgrade...... My theory Anyway
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Personally I think it has to do with Sprint's network. My tinfoil hat theory is that they don't have the cash to upgrade their network to keep pace with the other carriers so they're trying to lock people into contracts . From my perspective first and foremost is their lack of tower back haul and having the proper bandwidth available in many areas Secondarily, LTE won't be fully rolled out for quite a while.
I live in a small to medium sized city which has Div 1 university. I average 10-75 kbps each night when I get home from work and not much better when I leave in the mornings. Watching the network.spring.com website, there was to be a capacity upgrade to the tower closest to me. Now its not listed on the website anymore. Thanks Sprint.
Well I've looked all over the sprint website and still don't see the promo anywhere.
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Called today, they knew nothing about it.
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Besides the current top shelf smartphones, Evo 3d, Nexus, and epic....what does sprint have to offer right now that is truly an upgrade. The Evo has the most development I have ever seen on these forums. With all the current development for our Evo these phones just seem like a lateral movement. Especially with the upcoming line up from Samsung and HTC.
Not trying to argue. Maybe I'm not seeing all that's out there.
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While the Nexus seems great, you have to be anxious for possible lte phones from sprint like the HTC Zeta (drool), HTC Edge, and the Sammy Galaxy SIII.
It is possible that Sprint will pick up at least one of these Q2 in 2012. After MWC we should know more.
I have been with sprint almost 20 years now, and 2 years ago they hooked me good with the Evo. Man I hope they get an equal replacement for everyone who purchased one 2 years ago and is ready for an upgrade.
It would be cool to have a phone as powerful as my Transformer Prime, and with better wifi....lol
A man can dream right?
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I am going to hold on too!! 5 lines under my family everything plan. Only 2 will be up for renewal in a couple of months. I would have to fork up over $300 in ETF. I love my EVO, roms, etc.
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Breaking contract with Att

After waiting for the one x for months, I am disgusted with what they delivered. Tons of issues out of the box, no unlocked bootloader, no sd card, and miserable multitasking. Sprint is getting the s4 lte one x with bootloader unlock, and ad card. Verizon is getting it also with possibly a s5 cpu.
Any recommendations on sprint vs Verizon as far as service quality and price for the ny metro/long island area?
I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties. The customers get to foot the bill for his incompetence, and he gets rewarded 22 million for costing us 4billion+? Ponderous. Enough is enough already with this garbage. And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment! Screw Att, I am done with those thieves.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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After waiting for the one x for months, I am disgusted with what they delivered. Tons of issues out of the box, no unlocked bootloader, no sd card, and miserable multitasking. Sprint is getting the s4 lte one x with bootloader unlock, and ad card. Verizon is getting it also with possibly a s5 cpu.
Any recommendations on sprint vs Verizon as far as service quality and price for the ny metro/long island area?
I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties. The customers get to foot the bill for his incompetence, and he gets rewarded 22 million for costing us 4billion+? Ponderous. Enough is enough already with this garbage. And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment! Screw Att, I am done with those thieves.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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You can go to sprints website and view a map of their coverage. Same for verizon. However it should go without saying that the coverage should be next to perfect since not only are you in a very busy but city but also a well known area. I live in Atlanta, GA and Sprint 4G is golden over here. There are small pocket areas where coverage drops. And some where it drops for sprint too. As for local deals and plans you will have to check that in your area. It varies. I did break my contract with ATT though and switched to sprint. I had a hefty ETF to pay but it was worth it. Unlimited data, text, and tethering is worth it. I also like Sprint's tight google voice integration. I was using it on ATT and it was really limited but it's much more integrated on sprint.
So for me it was worth it. Love my Epic Touch 4G. To give ATT a little bit of credit they do seem to be snatching up some in demand android phones. I had no idea that ATT's version of the HTCOneX was that different either. This whole "lets change the internals of the phone for every carrier" is really annoying. The Epic Touch 4G looks different from the galaxy s2 skyrocket. And I think the global version is different too. The only downside about sprint's epic touch 4G is no NFC
But GS3 is coming soon. Hope this helped.
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I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties.
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This type of thing happens at all telecom companies. Enjoy having no LTE over at Sprint.
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And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment!
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It happens all the time. In a year at&t will get the sweet device and Sprint users will be sad. I haven't noticed any major trends in who gets what equipment amongst the major carriers... and Sprint. Well besides the iphone. Would I change if I really wanted a device at another company? Maybe. I have an unlimited data contract and a corporate discount though so I can't really see anyone giving me a better deal.
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This type of thing happens at all telecom companies. Enjoy having no LTE over at Sprint.
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AT&T LTE is kinda laughable though. I wish they left HSPA+ alone in the One X and gave me a quad-core instead.
Verizon in coverage and LTE. Sprint with prices and unlimited data.
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Verizon in coverage and LTE. Sprint with prices and unlimited data.
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This.
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T-Mobile is where it's at! I have their value plan and pay $70 a month after taxes for unlimited everything and 2 GB of 4G. Can't beat that.
Not sure where you're getting your info, OP, but Verizon's CEO just put out a press release stating that VZ will not be getting any new HTC phones in the short term, namely the HTC One series.
It depends on what your needs are. Do you use your data alot? Do you need the fast LTE speeds? Do you need a lot of minutes? Obviously phone choice is a huge deciding factor. All those questions could help us help you.
I have unlimited(limited) data and need 5gb+, need 900 minutes, would love lte(not a dealbreaker), 500+ text messages, free mobile to mobile calling, and be less than what I'm paying now, about $97.
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And Verizon is going to get a "one x" phone, it just won't be marketed as that. Look for a HTC phone similar in specs to LTE one x, but with a newer version CPU called S4 PRO(with new 320 gpu). Removable battery, sd card slot, 4.7" or bigger display.
Not confirmed of course, just adds up from various info and comments that have been made by qcomm, Verizon, and HTC. The biggest being they are due to release the replacement for the rezound in Q3. Everyone is bringing the 4.7"+slcd2 screen with qcomm s4 lte to market because it is a great combo, I don't think Big Red will miss out on the fun.
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I can't stomach giving Att more money after the CEO received a 22 million dollar bonus for a FAILED merger with tmobile that cost Att 4 billion dollars + in penalties. The customers get to foot the bill for his incompetence, and he gets rewarded 22 million for costing us 4billion+? Ponderous. Enough is enough already with this garbage. And on top of it all, we get a failure of a phone, while sprint and Verizon will again get the better equipment! Screw Att, I am done with those thieves.
Any feedback is appreciated.
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First of all, you can thank your new BFF "Sprint" for having a hand in that.
Asides from having really huge balls, I can't see how a failed merger undermines his abilities as a CEO? How do you think mergers work?
And unless you sir, own a significant amount of shares in AT&T, I don't understand how any of that $4 billion is even remotely 'yours'. Everything the company charges you are in exchange for their services, not stocks.
Lastly, could you provide me with an example where it shows the penalty fee being relayed onto the customer?
Thanks!
if you just want a lower monthly bill, I would try calling customer service, follow the prompts until you hear the one for cancel you account press 5, etc., it will direct you to the correct person, then say you're thinking about canceling because its too expensive, they will probably offer you some disscounts. last time I did it, they gave me $20 off credit for 6 months, free messaging 6 months, and a one time $40 credit I think.
worth a shot.
Ive been with them 6 years, I like GSM for the fact I can buy and use international devices, I dont like how they put non LTE unlmited plans on 3GB.
Every 1 of the big 4 has its pros and cons.
Agree about the gsm benefits.
And where dou think the 4 billion is coming from? Us. And we will pay twice, the 4bil+ in fines, and another 4bil+ to build the network he failed to acquire. I have a big problem with the "liar" receiving 22mil for failing. A better reward would have been a pink slip like everyone else would have received. Look up Randall Stephensons comments, he flat out lies, and had no clue how anything actually works. Just another entitled wall street moron ruining a great company in order to line their pockets via wall street. This is exactly why America is failing. Provide the lowest quality as long as it means higher stock prices. And even well performing stocks don't keep up with inflation, resulting in stealing from customers, as well as the shareholders. Do the research and WAKE UP ALREADY. STOP ALLOWING YOURSELF TO BE CONNED BY WALL STREET AND THE ENTITLED ULTRA RICH!
Any one here get a 22million bonus after costing your company 4+bil? No, you would have been fired!
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Agree about the gsm benefits.
And where dou think the 4 billion is coming from? Us. And we will pay twice, the 4bil+ in fines, and another 4bil+ to build the network he failed to acquire. I have a big problem with the "liar" receiving 22mil for failing. A better reward would have been a pink slip like everyone else would have received. Look up Randall Stephensons comments, he flat out lies, and had no clue how anything actually works. Just another entitled wall street moron ruining a great company in order to line their pockets via wall street. This is exactly why America is failing. Provide the lowest quality as long as it means higher stock prices. And even well performing stocks don't keep up with inflation, resulting in stealing from customers, as well as the shareholders. Do the research and WAKE UP ALREADY. STOP ALLOWING YOURSELF TO BE CONNED BY WALL STREET AND THE ENTITLED ULTRA RICH!
Any one here get a 22million bonus after costing your company 4+bil? No, you would have been fired!
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Oh god, are you one of those antiwallstreet idiots 99 percenters camping?
I won't even bother arguing the logistics with you and pointing out your failed logic on the nature of economics. Have a good day.
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Guesss you are a Wall Street(rigged casino) idiot. I can't stand occupy, it is a scam funded by certain political groups to pass more regulations.
The market doesn't keep up with inflation. Good luck giving your money to the rich. Effing economists.
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Contrary to popular beliefs,
Economists are more likely to be liberals.
But your statements are hollow and illogical. Even a bleeding heart would disagree with what you're stating.
By your logic, you're stating company revenue=customer investment.
You paid for a service, NOT for investment shares. Your service charges do not accrue to company shares. Once that money is paid and becomes company profit/revenue they can do whatever the hell they wanna do with it and no legal obligation binds them to spend it in your best interest. The loss is the company's loss, not your loss.
I don't understand how market parity and inflation has anything to do with this.
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God I hate liberals and their phony agenda. They claim to be liberal, want a million rules and regs, and tell you what to do. The only thing they are libral with is other peoples money. Anyone need more social assistance programs?
Don't like either Republicans or Democrats, they are all liars.
How about following the constitution and logic? Political parties only divide us as Americans and prevent anything from getting done.
Rep and Dem both laugh at us together all the way to the bank. Any more ultra rich need a billion dollar "bailout"?
We pay for all this crap. Period. We the people, not we the minority ultra rich!
Defend these morons all you want. Try looking past the curtain, there is more to it than what they let you see. You are being fleeced every day. Stand up for yourself, stop accepting what they "give" you. Earn what is yours, and don't let them steal it. I work 3 jobs. I work hard. I don't ask for handouts. Corporate America takes what they want, from who they want, and when they want. They run companies into the ground only to receive bonuses and bailouts. Enough is enough. I stand up for myself. You will not stand in my way.
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This has to be the funniest thread I've read in a while, and I've been a lurker on this site since 2009, but ultimately you're going to be footing the bill for your foot out the door. Either way, by your logic, you're going to be losing money. Unless you can convince a friendly CS Rep to cancel your contract without the ETF. Here's a hint: I wouldn't rattle on about the reasons you're leaving and instead make up a blatent lie. Also, put on your super nice voice.... if you have one.
Sprint, NO
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