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At&t 850hz on rooted? Possible?

Has anyone with a rooted nexus s managed to enable the at&t frequencies? 850hz? is it possible physically (is there a 3g 850hz frequency built in?)
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joesixpack1969 said:
Has anyone with a rooted nexus s managed to enable the at&t frequencies? 850hz? is it possible physically (is there a 3g 850hz frequency built in?)
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3G on this first version of the Nexus S (assuming they come out with an HSPA version as well like they did for the N1) supports 900, 1700, and 2100 MHz. The onboard hardware does not support 850hz / 1900hz.

That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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joesixpack1969 said:
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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I'm pretty sure it was intentional. It would be in Google's best interest to have all bands so that they wouldn't need to release multiple versions like with the N1. They likely have a deal with T-Mo

joesixpack1969 said:
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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5 and 6 band HSPA radios are still quite uncommon. I can only think of one or two devices on the market that use them.
It is just life. Send them feedback and tell them you want an 850/1900 version.

Just wait for the Nexus S to come out on ATT, I seriously doubt Google is going to make the Nexus S strictly Tmobile. Tmobile makes up less than 10% of all cell phones, would be kind of stupid...

Why does it say quad band with 850hz here? http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
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That's GSM - you can make calls and get 2G (EDGE) data just fine on AT&T with the Nexus S... but would you want to? =)
joesixpack1969 said:
Why does it say quad band with 850hz here? http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
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Its not googles' fault. A long time ago the US gsm providers decided to add a download chanel to 3g gsm so that users couldn't take their phone from one provider to another and so the could not import phones in from europe. You can take a phone from att or tmo and it will do 3g on any european gsm provider you chose. However no normal european gsm phone will do 3g in the us. They lack the second download chanel. So don't complain about google, it was the providers that made a conscious decision to muck it up.
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dimes-jth said:
Its not googles' fault. A long time ago the US gsm providers decided to add a download chanel to 3g gsm so that users couldn't take their phone from one provider to another and so the could not import phones in from europe. You can take a phone from att or tmo and it will do 3g on any european gsm provider you chose. However no normal european gsm phone will do 3g in the us. They lack the second download chanel. So don't complain about google, it was the providers that made a conscious decision to muck it up.
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That's 100% true!!! Plus the batter life would be horrific with all those signals, and a bigger antenna! LOL
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I'm on ATT
I hate the EDGE speeds but there is nothing else we can do. I currently carry around my Nexus One with this one to use as a hotspot. Google will probably release another version within a couple months as they did with the N1. Hopefully they will cause tethering all the time is awesome to show off but cumbersome all at the same time

I picked up the nexus s yesterday. Love the phone compared to my Captivate on Cognition but EDGE is really hampering the experience.

petep86 said:
That's 100% true!!! Plus the batter life would be horrific with all those signals, and a bigger antenna! LOL
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Nokia managed to design a pentaband 3G (5 different 3G bands, 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz) phone, the N8 and it has no problems AFAIK. Samsung probably doesn't have the knowledge or talent to design a pentaband 3G device though.

The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.

distortedloop said:
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
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At&t does not use 3g on 1900mhz everywhere. In fact, a major AT&T initiative in the past few years was to move 3g to the 850 band everywhere possible in order to enhance indoor signal strength.
A phone that can only do 3g on 1900mhz is not a nationwide solution for AT&T, coverage is quite hit or miss.

distortedloop said:
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
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Check the nexus s specs again. It does not have 1900mHz 3g in any form at all like the vibrant.
It only has 900, 1700, 2100.

RogerPodacter said:
Check the nexus s specs again. It does not have 1900mHz 3g in any form at all like the vibrant.
It only has 900, 1700, 2100.
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Re-read my post, and the post I was responding to again.
I never said that the Nexus S supports 850/900, I was telling a guy who said Samsung didn't know how to make such a phone that he was incorrect because Samsung has already made such a phone (the Vibrant which supports both AWS/1700/1900/2100 on the UMTS side).
Ironic that you're telling me to re-read something when you should have done the same before correcting me.
Peace!

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At&t does not use 3g on 1900mhz everywhere. In fact, a major AT&T initiative in the past few years was to move 3g to the 850 band everywhere possible in order to enhance indoor signal strength.
A phone that can only do 3g on 1900mhz is not a nationwide solution for AT&T, coverage is quite hit or miss.
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Yes, I'm well aware of this, but if you're in any major metro area where AT&T has been offering 3G service for a couple of years or more, 1900 is likely available to you. 850 is in far fewer areas, isn't it? It's only a recent addition to San Francisco as I recall.
1900 support in the Nexus S would have made it much more attractive to me, and a viable AT&T alternative for many across much of the country, but I'll concede that 850/1900 would be necessary to address the whole nation.

I see I mis read your post thinking it meant it had 1900.

Confirmed: Bell releasing Motorola ATRIX March 17th

It’s now confirmed. Bell has released a statement indicating that the Motorola ATRIX is going to be available on March 17th. As for the price points: $169.95 on a 3-year (with a minimum $50 voice/data plan) or for $599.95 on no-contract. Bell will also sell the Lapdock and the HD Multimedia Dock but no word on those prices were announced.
Specs of this Android have it coming with OS 2.2 with Motoblur, 1GHz NVIDIA Tegra 2 Dual-Core processor, 1GB RAM and 1930 mAh battery, Flash Player 10.1, 5-megapixel rear-facing camera with LED flash and 720p HD video recording, VGA front-facing camera, holds up to 48GB with a microSD card (16GB internal and optional 32GB), WiFi.
Who’s buying?
http://mobilesyrup.com/2011/03/04/confirmed-bell-releasing-motorola-atrix-march-17th-for-599-95/

Heres to hoping it has HSUPA enabled.

leadguy68 said:
Heres to hoping it has HSUPA enabled.
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It's not on AT&T, so it will probably not be crippled.

zorxd said:
It's not on AT&T, so it will probably not be crippled.
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HA!
You obviously don't know Canadian cell phone carriers. Bell removed FFC's from some Samsung phones. Did you notice... 3 year contract. AT&T ... 2 year.
Think AT&T is bad... at least you have real choice in the states.

yea canadian providers are the worst! - I do love Wind and Mobilicity though

As an american living in canada the US has far better cell phone service, I just wish motorola made a version that worked on wind because that's what I use... 40/mo for unlimited voice/texts/data is too hard to beat =)
Still, it's nice to see they're releasing it so soon after the US release, usually canada has to wait MONTHS for a phone to hit their side of the border.

fr0z3n said:
yea canadian providers are the worst! - I do love Wind and Mobilicity though
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They are great. If you live in a metropolitan area. I'm juuust outside Oshawa, the Wind Zone ends 3 blocks from my house. Not good if I'm getting say groceries and need to call home to see if my wife needs something.
Or travelling. As much as I hate Rogers, my data usage in the states comes off my monthly balance

Well captivate owners waited months hoping for a hsupa modem from its canadian brother....no dice
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I'm in Halifax and was about to outbid someone on ebay.... a few questions though:
1) So, can I purchase an unlock code for it?
2) Also, what GSM/3G bands will it support?
3) Finally, no 4G??

Pretty sure you can get an unlock code for any phone out there... just a matter of price. In Toronto you can just go to pacific mall and a ton of places can get it for 10 bucks or so. There's some online sites that work too but it's a bit riskier.
It'll most likely be the same exact phone that AT&T has in terms of hardware since Bell/Rogers/Telus all use the same 3G frequencies now.
And for 4G... does any carrier in canada even have 4G yet?
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I'm in Halifax and was about to outbid someone on ebay.... a few questions though:
1) So, can I purchase an unlock code for it?
2) Also, what GSM/3G bands will it support?
3) Finally, no 4G??
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I'm definitely buying this beast. Hoping to get it on the 17th. Been waiting since CES...

4G is a marketing gimic that means whatever you want it to.
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Here's hoping we can extract the bell atrix's firmware and flash it on the gringo version to enable faster upload speeds. Designgears, what do you think?

Confirmed from Bell:
Here are the connectivity details:
•HSPA –global access
•GPRS / EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
•UMTS 850/1900/2100 MHz
•Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, GPS, Bluetooth, DLNA
He'll let me know how I can unlock it in the next email...

dinan said:
And for 4G... does any carrier in canada even have 4G yet?
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The announcement says: "...on Canada's Best Network with the fastest 4G speeds and largest 4G coverage..."
So I dunno why they dropped the "4G" part of the name...
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/March2011/04/c8005.html

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/03/02/bell-hspa-4g-network.html
Guess you've fallen for their marketing ploy... quite sure bell isn't even 3.5G. Yet they label anything faster (theoretically) than 3mbps as 4G when traditional 3G maxes out at 7.2mbps.
TareX said:
The announcement says: "...on Canada's Best Network with the fastest 4G speeds and largest 4G coverage..."
So I dunno why they dropped the "4G" part of the name...
http://www.cnw.ca/en/releases/archive/March2011/04/c8005.html
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I definately dont get 3mbs
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Well, getting an unlocked, rooted Atrix 4G from the US will cost me CAD $650 ... while getting it locked from Bell would cost me CAD $600.... I'm not sure if $50 is worth worrying about unlockability and rooting...

dinan said:
Guess you've fallen for their marketing ploy... quite sure bell isn't even 3.5G. Yet they label anything faster (theoretically) than 3mbps as 4G when traditional 3G maxes out at 7.2mbps.
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It's like how AT&T is doing it, calling their HSPA+ 4G.
I was wondering about rooting the Atrix. The AT&T version is already rooted, would the same rooting method work for the Bell version? Would this only work if they have the exact same firmware for 2.2? I remember when I manually install updates for my Nexus One, I had to wait for the AT&T update to come out since the firmware was different than the TMo version. This was before the versions were merged. So I'm wondering if this is the case? Or does this have no relevance?
Will be getting the Bell's Atrix on the 17!

will this work on tmobile's 3G?

Anyone interested in the G2X ??

This may be my next phone now that T-mo has confirmed it will be a stock experience here: http://androidandme.com/2011/03/pho...-as-first-dual-core-phone-with-stock-android/
Honestly though I'm a little fearful of going with LG, just because I've never used their phones.
Been using HTC for about 2 years now. It's between this and the upcoming Pyramid.
What do you think?
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when first switching to tmobile i bought my gf an optimus t before getting her the g2, i have to say it was one of my more delightful android experiences ive had, unlocked bootloader, fastboot enabled by default, source code is up (and teh real source code not some samsung give only enough to be gpl compliant crap) the day phones are released. the build quality was decent and i enjoyed it. i think the g2x is a good start for them to enter the high end devices, with there not truly being any recent phone releases on tmobile it will mean a lot of devs might snag one up.

Yeah I think it'll most likely get as much support as the G2 has eventually.
As long as the bootloader get's unlocked.
Others have complained about it being released with Froyo.
But, I don't care what version it's released with, just that it's bootloader can be unlocked for CWM and later CM builds.
I stopped caring about manufacturer OS releases a long time ago.
Unless you have a Nexus phone, it's usually not as good as CM anyway.

Nah...gonna try to waive etf when the merger hits and go to vzw. I'm not going back to att.
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Waiting to hear about battery life with dual core.
Don't care much for the fake chrome look around the outside. Kinda a MyTouch4G look, not really a G-series look.

http://bit.ly/fWEACn
The g2x should still work after all this merger stuff is done and from what I understand if you don't change your plan or anything it should be grandfatherd in to maybe not a bad choice
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First timing posting mainly just searching forums and try ROMs...
anyways I'm very interested in the G2X will most likely get one even though I'm weary about the merger much like a lot of people. I did read that the G2x is going to ship with T-mobile HSPA+ capability (duh) and AT&T HSPA+ capability, so it shouldn't turn into a useless phone once the merger happens.
I can't post links unfortunately but if you go to intomobile.com it is one of the first articles under android.

I also read the G2x will ship with att and tmobile bands.. so seein as att most likely, hopefully fcc stops it, ill be movin to att sadly. Ugh, I work for them and hate them.. so sad. but if it works for ATT sounds be good thou. ATT is gettin there own versions of it thou.. and usually price android phones pretty cheap since then lick apples nuts on the daily..
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zaelia said:
http://bit.ly/fWEACn
The g2x should still work after all this merger stuff is done and from what I understand if you don't change your plan or anything it should be grandfatherd in to maybe not a bad choice
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AT&T runs 3G on 1900 mhz though, so unless the G2X runs on 850/1900 3G, then you won't get 3G. If its made for T-Mobile, it will only have 850/1700/2100 (1700/2100 being T-Mo's 3G/4G bands).
The only big manufacturer making these types of radio is Nokia, who makes Penta-band radios which basically hit every mhz spectrum around the world.

When I worked for verizon, when the htc ppc6700 was out (that long ago) the dumbphones with music players were the rage ie the chocolate and the moto q. Yes I consider the moto q a dumbphone because it was a pile of ****. I sold the hell out of certain lg phones like the 8300, and I owned 2 8300 for a reason. It was simply a kick ass phone for its time.
Lg quality seems to be good on cdma. Gsm I'm not sure tho. I was so satisified with lg at the time I would say 50% of my sales were lg devices at the time.
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martonikaj said:
AT&T runs 3G on 1900 mhz though, so unless the G2X runs on 850/1900 3G, then you won't get 3G. If its made for T-Mobile, it will only have 850/1700/2100 (1700/2100 being T-Mo's 3G/4G bands).
The only big manufacturer making these types of radio is Nokia, who makes Penta-band radios which basically hit every mhz spectrum around the world.
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I can't post the article but the G2X will have AWS Band IV/ 2100 / 1900 / 850
"the G2x looks to support AT&T’s HSPA+ bands, 1900 and 850". (intomobile.com)

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AT&T runs 3G on 1900 mhz though, so unless the G2X runs on 850/1900 3G, then you won't get 3G. If its made for T-Mobile, it will only have 850/1700/2100 (1700/2100 being T-Mo's 3G/4G bands).
The only big manufacturer making these types of radio is Nokia, who makes Penta-band radios which basically hit every mhz spectrum around the world.
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It has at&t hspa+ bands and t mobile hspa+ bands.
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/car...ture-proofing-their-new-phones-to-run-on-att/
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This phone is QUADBAND so it will work perfectly with ATT
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-from-lg-hands-on-video/
Update: It turns out the "4G" radio in the G2x is quadband (2100 / 1900 / 1700 / 850MHz) but strangely, it's limited to 14.4Mbps downlink speeds. Apparently, this also applies to the T-Mobile G-Slate. We're reaching out to T-Mobile to check if the G2x radio is HSPA+ or merely just HSPA.

TrueYears said:
This phone is QUADBAND so it will work perfectly with ATT
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/22/t-mobile-g2x-from-lg-hands-on-video/
Update: It turns out the "4G" radio in the G2x is quadband (2100 / 1900 / 1700 / 850MHz) but strangely, it's limited to 14.4Mbps downlink speeds. Apparently, this also applies to the T-Mobile G-Slate. We're reaching out to T-Mobile to check if the G2x radio is HSPA+ or merely just HSPA.
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Sorry about that. The first linked story said that it would only be compatible with 1900, which would've meant you won't get UMTS in some areas on AT&T.
I wonder if this is a conscious decision by LG to make sure the phones don't get thrown out in a year.

martonikaj said:
Sorry about that. The first linked story said that it would only be compatible with 1900, which would've meant you won't get UMTS in some areas on AT&T.
I wonder if this is a conscious decision by LG to make sure the phones don't get thrown out in a year.
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I'm sure. Its a smart decision.
The one thing I will really miss about T-mo is how cool they are about releasing phones. No telco has given Android love like T-mo. The G2x is another great example.
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As soon as the bootloader gets unlocked I will definitely jump to the next best the G-series has to offer

Looks like a nice device but personally if it doesn't have a hard keyboard, its not for me. I've tried the touchscreen deal but with how much I text and email on the go, I can't live without a keyboard.
Gonna be sticking with the DZ for while. Won't likely get a new device until I get a new service provider... Considering Sprint with the looming merger between ATT and TMobile. Verizon is just too pricey.

S%!*!! I just slapped down 400+ clams to purchase the G2, then I hear this? WTF!
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gbarayah said:
Looks like a nice device but personally if it doesn't have a hard keyboard, its not for me. I've tried the touchscreen deal but with how much I text and email on the go, I can't live without a keyboard.
Gonna be sticking with the DZ for while. Won't likely get a new device until I get a new service provider... Considering Sprint with the looming merger between ATT and TMobile. Verizon is just too pricey.
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I agree. but try this.... If the screen is 4 inch or 4.3 it actually is not too bad to type on anything smaller it can be troublesome. The mt4g actually is bare min size to type on in portrait but 4in or bigger is actually not too bad so dont totally rule it out of a hardware keyboard is not a feature available later on.
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I will consider getting one to compliment or replace my G2 depending on the build quality. The hard keyboard is not a necessity for me and I really like the 4 inch screen size, tegra 2, and stock Android.
Also, I work for T-mobile and the optimus t has been a solid Android phone with very few issues or complaints. It is an entry level handset but very solid. It will be nice to see what LG does with a high end device.

SGS II at 1.4GHz available in Sept.

Sammy will release SGS II at 1.4GHz this September to battle against iPhone 5.
http://www.t3.com/news/samsung-to-upgrade-galaxy-s-ii-to-counter-apples-iphone-5?=57923

Looks good but I think it's a little iffy to assume that TMobile will offer the SGSII for sale in the US. Indeed, while I really like the SGSII and the development community which supports the Samsung devices I'm unlikely to purchase a new phone for use on TMobile until I see which way the AT&T merger goes. I suspect other TMobile subscribers feel the same way I do and will be jumping ship if AT&T/TMobile merge...

Hopefully they will include Hercules in this update.
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What pisses me off the most is that I can't even buy the phone from overseas and use it with T-MoFo and get 3G. I was planning to get the SGS-II, and now the upgraded version comes with no hope that T-mobile will get any of them.

طوني تبولة said:
What pisses me off the most is that I can't even buy the phone from overseas and use it with T-MoFo and get 3G. I was planning to get the SGS-II, and now the upgraded version comes with no hope that T-mobile will get any of them.
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Overseas phones are usually unlocked so you can use it with any providers. Not sure why you wouldn't be able to use it with T-Mobile.
SGS II specs are impressive but I don't like the physical Home button, looks too much like iPhone that's why they are being sued among other things. I like the way Vibrant buttons are.
Vibrant on Project-V + Bali X 1.1

I'm waiting for the Nexus 3
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T-Mobile T989 (Hercules???)
Sammy T989 just passed BT & Wi-Fi certification. This could be T-Mobile version of SGS II.
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/06/samsung-t989-receives-bluetooth-wi-fi-approval-is-this-the-samsung-hercules/
Looks like September will be a HOT month!!!
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Overseas phones are usually unlocked so you can use it with any providers. Not sure why you wouldn't be able to use it with T-Mobile.
SGS II specs are impressive but I don't like the physical Home button, looks too much like iPhone that's why they are being sued among other things. I like the way Vibrant buttons are.
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yeah, they are unlocked, so you can use a tmob sim, but they don't use tmob's hspa/hspa+ bands. so it's akin to using an iphone on tmob: edge only.

ronin4740 said:
Looks good but I think it's a little iffy to assume that TMobile will offer the SGSII for sale in the US. Indeed, while I really like the SGSII and the development community which supports the Samsung devices I'm unlikely to purchase a new phone for use on TMobile until I see which way the AT&T merger goes. I suspect other TMobile subscribers feel the same way I do and will be jumping ship if AT&T/TMobile merge...
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Honestly I'm beginning to think T-Mobile is *determined* to offer substandard versions. Such as the Sensation getting less memory than the EVO 3D.. Why no true "WOW FACTOR" phones, just middle of the road dreck from TMO? Or back in the day when the rest of the world get the HTC Magic and TMO got the Sapphire, a Magic with less memory.... So... I doubt we'll see it on TMO also. But it will be a nice phone for those who can get/use it!

funeralthirst said:
yeah, they are unlocked, so you can use a tmob sim, but they don't use tmob's hspa/hspa+ bands. so it's akin to using an iphone on tmob: edge only.
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Uhm, I think you're wrong. World phones have all 4 bands, where as AT&T and T-Mobile only have 3 bands. The bands are 850/900/1800/1900, so even if you're missing one it's still possible to use the phone hence the ROAMING feature. I have a Vibrant and have use SIM's (for calls & 3G+) from many countries as I travel through them.
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lotherius said:
Honestly I'm beginning to think T-Mobile is *determined* to offer substandard versions. Such as the Sensation getting less memory than the EVO 3D.. Why no true "WOW FACTOR" phones, just middle of the road dreck from TMO? Or back in the day when the rest of the world get the HTC Magic and TMO got the Sapphire, a Magic with less memory.... So... I doubt we'll see it on TMO also. But it will be a nice phone for those who can get/use it!
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Some people on verizon complain that they don't have a dual core device until now, they are suspecting that it may be due to the droid lines that keep the carriers from getting dual core devices.. I'm not even sure if tmobile will get the nexus prime with all the pending buyout going on.. There's no future for tmo anymore i believe.. Im going att when everything finalizes

se7en10 said:
Uhm, I think you're wrong. World phones have all 4 bands, where as AT&T and T-Mobile only have 3 bands. The bands are 850/900/1800/1900, so even if you're missing one it's still possible to use the phone hence the ROAMING feature. I have a Vibrant and have use SIM's (for calls & 3G+) from many countries as I travel through them.
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Tmobile uses 2100 aws spectrum for 3g which is why international and att phones dont have 3g on tmob. But att uses standard 3g bands same as rest of the world so you can for example buy a unlocked international sgs2 and get 3g on att.
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Wait is this dual core or single core?
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se7en10 said:
Uhm, I think you're wrong. World phones have all 4 bands, where as AT&T and T-Mobile only have 3 bands. The bands are 850/900/1800/1900, so even if you're missing one it's still possible to use the phone hence the ROAMING feature. I have a Vibrant and have use SIM's (for calls & 3G+) from many countries as I travel through them.
Vibrant on Project-V + Bali-X 1.1
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that quad band/'world phone' bands are for calls. for data, tmob uses 1700 and 2100 (the reason att wants to buy them). the vibrant also supports the att 1900 3g/hspa+ band hence why it will usually work with att 3g.

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Uhm, I think you're wrong. World phones have all 4 bands, where as AT&T and T-Mobile only have 3 bands. The bands are 850/900/1800/1900, so even if you're missing one it's still possible to use the phone hence the ROAMING feature. I have a Vibrant and have use SIM's (for calls & 3G+) from many countries as I travel through them.
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GSM-Wise: most phones that have been manufactured in the last ~4 years work on all GSM networks (They are Quad band)
but that means they are able to make phone calls and connect @ edge speed.
There is a different set of bands for 3G. Most 3G networks around the world use 2100 MHz. In the Americas, the 1900MHz is the most commonly used except few networks like T-Mobile and a couple of networks in Canada that use the AWS which uses 1700/2100MHz combination.
So unless you buy the phone from the US or Canada, your phone will NOT connect @ 3G with T-mobile.

طوني تبولة said:
There is a different set of bands for 3G. Most 3G networks around the world use 2100 MHz. In the Americas, the 1900MHz is the most commonly used except few networks like T-Mobile and a couple of networks in Canada that use the AWS which uses 1700/2100MHz combination.
So unless you buy the phone from the US or Canada, your phone will NOT connect @ 3G with T-mobile.
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Ok, always thought as a World phone it would have all the bands to work everywhere in the world. Guess not then!

Alex530 said:
Wait is this dual core or single core?
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Dual
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Dual
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Good stuff.
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طوني تبولة said:
So unless you buy the phone from the US or Canada, your phone will NOT connect @ 3G with T-mobile.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/29/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-gets-official-for-canada-on-bell-virgin-mob/

ferhanmm said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/29/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-gets-official-for-canada-on-bell-virgin-mob/
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Sadly, none of them uses AWS band (1700/2100)
Bell Mobility and its subsidiary (Virgin Mobile), and SaskTel use the 850 and 1900MHz which is supported by the International version of Galaxy S II.
AWS really sucks (click to see the small list of the providers that use this band)

GS2 > Atrix

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It honestly isn't much of an upgrade from the Atrix. Sure, the screen has magnificent deep colours, but it does have a lower resolution and makes everything look blurry to me after a while. I also heard screens like AMOLED kinda "burn out" and degrade after a while, which is worrying!
All in all, to me, it's like a more expensive version of the Atrix with a better screen. (More expensive as in it costs around £500 unlocked in the UK whereas Atrix is closer to £300 but anyway, i got the Atrix super cheap with a contract and could not be happier!)

I'm not giving up my Atrix for anything less than a Galaxy Nexus.

WiredPirate said:
I'm not giving up my Atrix for anything less than a Galaxy Nexus.
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This, or to be fair i saw the new motorola razr and it intrigued the hell out of me!

King_MSD said:
This, or to be fair i saw the new motorola razr and it intrigued the hell out of me!
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Agreed, the Razr looked badass!! But I still couldn't pick it over the GN..

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Agreed, the Razr looked badass!! But I still couldn't pick it over the GN..
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Yeah nothing beats the GN, the thing is after having the atrix i dont want to ever go back to a phone without a fingerprint scanner! Hopefully Motorola now do an amazing phone with google too!

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I'm not giving up my Atrix for anything less than a Galaxy Nexus.
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WARNING PERSONAL OPINION AHEAD!
Wait for the Galaxy? Yeah, try again. I am waiting until after CES next year for anything upgrade worthy. Same thing I did last year when the Nexus 2 (S) came out. I waited a couple months for the Olympus to hit and I snatched her up in Feb. The Nexus Galaxy is "alright", but not what I expected really. I was expecting a "GENIUSPhone" not another smart one. Yea its stock Google, it gets the updates first, its pretty and curved, but so what? As long as I get CM9 on the Atrix I am good for quite some time (not coming up for true upgrade til this time next year). And to stray even further off topic, I am not even all that interested in a quadcore phone (which the NexG is not, however CES will showcase them), only the tablets. That's the whole reason I have waited for the Kal-El's to drop, I dont want a giant phone (dual core). I was also waiting for 4.0 to debut. I will honestly prob wait for the nexus next year and consider it. I just hate they release them so late in the year. By the time they hit AT&T bands there is already better hardware flooding the market.
OT: The SII is nice but really, meh. Give it a month and it will be forgoten about when the Galaxy is officially out. Give that 2.5 months and the Galaxy will be forgotten when CES rolls around. We are on the last leg of dual core being "top of line". Just wait a few months, it will be a standard feature then and quads will be bleeding edge.

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Yeah nothing beats the GN, the thing is after having the atrix i dont want to ever go back to a phone without a fingerprint scanner! Hopefully Motorola now do an amazing phone with google too!
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I agree again! I LOVE my fingerprint scanner and am really sad Moto hasn't included it on more phones! Just the idea of fp scanner was cool before I ever bought the phone or knew if fp worked well, but now that I use it every day and know it works extremely well I'm gonna have a hard time "upgrading" to my next device. I wont even flash CM7 until it supports fp, and I'm a huge CM7 fan seeing the miracles it did for my Captivate. I wonder why Moto dropped the fp all together.? I kinda assumed after the Atrix we would see almost all phones with them, or at least a hand full of Motos.. I never thought it would just be discarded and maybe even because of "facial recognition". Boo.
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WARNING PERSONAL OPINION AHEAD!
Wait for the Galaxy? Yeah, try again. I am waiting until after CES next year for anything upgrade worthy. Same thing I did last year when the Nexus 2 (S) came out. I waited a couple months for the Olympus to hit and I snatched her up in Feb. The Nexus Galaxy is "alright", but not what I expected really. I was expecting a "GENIUSPhone" not another smart one. Yea its stock Google, it gets the updates first, its pretty and curved, but so what? As long as I get CM9 on the Atrix I am good for quite some time (not coming up for true upgrade til this time next year). And to stray even further off topic, I am not even all that interested in a quadcore phone (which the NexG is not, however CES will showcase them), only the tablets. That's the whole reason I have waited for the Kal-El's to drop, I dont want a giant phone (dual core). I was also waiting for 4.0 to drop. I will honestly prob wait for the nexus next year and consider it. I just hate they drop them so late in the year. By the time they hit AT&T bands there is already better hardware flooding the market.
OT: The SII is nice but really, meh. Give it a month and it will be forgoten about when the Galaxy drops. Give that 2.5 months and the Galaxy will be forgotten when CES rolls around. We are on the last leg of dual core being "top of line". Just wait a few months, it will be a standard feature then and quads will be bleeding edge.
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Once more I would like to agree lol, yall are just reading my mind today. I would give up my Atrix for a GN if one fell out of the sky, but I am perfectly content with the Atrix and have no plans on upgrading before contract is up. (Unless its to leave ATTs ****ty ass service for Verizon who is the only carrier in my area to have voice/data all over my county.) I also couldn't care less about a quad-core phone but wouldn't carry anything less than a dual-core after getting use to it. (The dual-core IS a standard feature for current phones imo) The atrix does any and every thing I throw at it perfectly, no lag like with the Cap.. I dont think anybody will argue the #1 reason, best reason, and maybe even the only reason to upgrade from Atrix to GN is ICS. And personally I think in time the Atrix will see ICS, but thats just my speculation, of course nobody knows at this time. Bring on CES!

Aaaaaaargh GALAXY NEXUS NOW!!!!!!!!!
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Can't seem to find if At&t uses the AWS1700 band or not....I think it is. From what I've been reading, the FCC document that has been posted online doesn't show the 2100 frequency but I've learned that the FCC doesn't test that frequency because it is the receive data frquency which they don't care about, just transmit levels. Every carrier has blocks of the 700mhz frequency but TMO has that locked down for now until the aquisition hearing is over in Feb? I think. LTE can run on 1700/2100 bands which the Galaxy Nexus has and they say LTE is optional depending on area....which we have in a few areas so far....so I consider it running HSPA+/LTE when it's released. BTW...The SCHI515 (Verizon version) hasn't made it to the FCC as of yet or hasn't been approved so the way it looks to me.....At&t and maybe T-Mo will launch before Verizon in the states, but that's just my impression from all the searching I've been doing.

Phoneguy589 said:
Can't seem to find if At&t uses the AWS1700 band or not....I think it is. From what I've been reading, the FCC document that has been posted online doesn't show the 2100 frequency but I've learned that the FCC doesn't test that frequency because it is the receive data frquency which they don't care about, just transmit levels. Every carrier has blocks of the 700mhz frequency but TMO has that locked down for now until the aquisition hearing is over in Feb? I think. LTE can run on 1700/2100 bands which the Galaxy Nexus has and they say LTE is optional depending on area....which we have in a few areas so far....so I consider it running HSPA+/LTE when it's released. BTW...The SCHI515 hasn't made it to the FCC as of yet or hasn't been approved so the way it looks to me.....At&t and maybe T-Mo will launch before Verizon in the states, but that's just my impression from all the searching I've been doing.
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T-Mobile uses 1700/2100 for their HSPA network. 1900 is their 2G/EDGE network. AT&T uses 850 for their HSPA network and 1900 for their 2G/EDGE network. LTE is strictly limited to the 700MHz and 1700 bands in North America. 1700 MHz belongs to T-Mobile. The 700 MHz band is owned by several companies including AT&T and Verizon. Even though they share the same 700 MHz band, they are incompatable with each other. Verizon uses Blocks A and C whereas AT&T uses block B. There are 2 Galaxy Nexus phones, an HSPA+ and an LTE version. The LTE version is a Verizon exclusive in the USA. SCH-I515 is the Verizon LTE version and the GT-I9250 is most likely the AT&T version as it doesn't support the 2100 band for T-Mobile.

TMo At&t and VZN all have blocks in the 700mhz range..lower blocks are more usable which the FCC is trying to have all carriers share the entire frequency which I don't think will happen. At&t does have 1700 and 2100 bands as well...
HTC Jetstream LTE specifications:
Networks: GSM, UMTS, HSPA+, LTE
Bands: GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz, UMTS 850, 1900, 2100 MHz, LTE 700 Mhz
They are using 2100mhz as the downstream from the tower which the FCC WILL NOT test because that would require going out to the tower. the 700 is the true LTE as they can send and receive within those blocks BUT Tmobile has the land covered. BTW...We lease a major of space and supply all the carriers with fiber to their towers. TMobile is going down and trying to convince the court they have no money make their service better so we will buy them, get them on our page (whether they like it or night) and start on the next biggest thing.
Depending the area and tower availbility we could provide this:
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network 850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G

Phoneguy589 said:
TMo At&t and VZN all have blocks in the 700mhz range..lower blocks are more usable which the FCC is trying to have all carriers share the entire frequency which I don't think will happen. At&t does have 1700 and 2100 bands as well...
HTC Jetstream LTE specifications:
Networks: GSM, UMTS, HSPA+, LTE
Bands: GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz, UMTS 850, 1900, 2100 MHz, LTE 700 Mhz
They are using 2100mhz as the downstream from the tower which the FCC WILL NOT test because that would require going out to the tower. the 700 is the true LTE as they can send and receive within those blocks BUT Tmobile has the land covered. BTW...We lease a major of space and supply all the carriers with fiber to their towers. TMobile is going down and trying to convince the court they have no money make their service better so we will buy them, get them on our page (whether they like it or night) and start on the next biggest thing.
Depending the area and tower availbility we could provide this:
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network 850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
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T-Mobile holds no licenses in the 700MHz spectrum. AT&T has no holdings in the 1700 or 2100 bands for UMTS. Those are strictly T-Mobile bands. T-Mobile pretty much owns all of the 1700 band for LTE.

I'm actually quite impressed with the s 2 super amoled screen is amazing not to mention the size and weight of the phone but more than anything else the reason why I want to change the atrix is because clearly the support for it is dying fast ... which is pretty ridiculous... and the few only developers working on it still all seem to be ready to jump on the nexus... which will leave us totally stranded... quite sad actually...
I would have wanted to get the nexus... but it was a pretty big disappointment when its specs are inferior to the s2 in every way apart from just the screen... and the nexus is just too damn big... fine the nexus has ics but soon enough so will the s2... and considering there are 10 million people with the s2 already there will be plenty of developement for quite a while... like the Galaxy S still has more development than the atrix...
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I get that people are always eager for the next shiny object, but until software development catches up with the hardware I don't see a need to upgrade, the hardware in the Atrix has still yet to be fully utilized. I you might get a marginally better android experience by upgrading; the difference will be almost negligible.
The Tegra 3, with 5 CPU cores and 12 GPU cores, is worth waiting for. http://www.ubergizmo.com/2011/09/tegra-3-5-cores/

My Opinion
For me, Atrix is absolutely perfect because of these unique features:
- A LARGE 4" qHD screen yet a SMALL form factor
- A massive battery
- GREAT sound quality due to Wolfsen chip
- Oh, and the fingerprint scanner
No other phones have these crucial features! Phones are getting massive and I hate them because I have tiny hands!!
The galaxy Nexus is 136 x 68!? WTF!? It should have been the Nexus S' size but have a 4.3 - 4.5" screen with on screen buttons.
Also, the battery is only 1750mAh, pushing a 720p screen!? That is ridicules!! Also, the processor is the TI OMAP series which has the weak SGX540 - which has to push a 1280x720 screen!!
As for the SGS2, it is stupidly massive, has a WVGA screen which I personally don't like anymore after using the Atrix's qHD and TBH, I don't like the screen too much as it produces cartoonish colours. It also has a poor sound chip compared to the Atrix's Wolfsen Audio chip which is just sensational.
For me, the only phone above the Atrix is the iPhone 4S, that is genuinely a VERY GOOD all round phone. The A5 chip is absolutely BEASTLY with a dual core SGX543MP2 GPU and it is beautifully optimized with the software. I personally think the 4S is gonna be one of the most underrated phones this year. It's dual core performace will most likely trump future quad cores because of it's optimization.

Only reason I mentioned the 2100mhz was what I had seen a Verizon page comparing LTE buildouts ---> http://bookstore.ucsd.edu/images/pdf/VZW_LTE_Competitive_Comparison_Overview.pdf It shows 700/1700/2100 under At&t but a small bandwith.

Really. I got an AT&T GS2 and love it. I had an Atrix from the beginning on and it never felt fast and the sensitivity of the screen wasn't high enough for me. It's a good phone don't understand me wrong but the gs2 is so much faster, smoother and the camera is so much better. Don't even feel like rooting it because I am totally happy. I give the Atrix a 7/10 and the GS2 a 9. BTW I used cm7 on my Atrix and still wasn't happy.
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Gs2 runs a lower resolution and is hardware accelerated. It better be snappy. But galaxy nexus ftw!
I voided my warranty and your mum.

I'm not interested in GSII at all. Bigger screen and a lower resolution just doesn't interest me.
I am however, very interested in the Galaxy Nexus. It's definitely drool worthy and the no-lag camera alone may be worth it. However, as my job require me to work long hours (30+ hours), Atrix may still be the only option given the excellent battery life.