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There's no denying that as it stands the SG2 is the fastest android smartphone out now. I don't own one but based on what i'm hearing its crazy fast. My question is with its speed would it benefit from the hardware acceleration that comes with ICS?? Does the UI in this phone running as smooth as an iphone or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without hardware acceleration? Or despite its speed does it occasionally still stutter in between screens from time to time or jumping in between apps??
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There's no denying that as it stands the SG2 is the fastest android smartphone out now. I don't own one but based on what i'm hearing its crazy fast. My question is with its speed would it benefit from the hardware acceleration that comes with ICS?? Does the UI in this phone running as smooth as an iphone or the Samsung Galaxy Nexus without hardware acceleration? Or despite its speed does it occasionally still stutter in between screens from time to time or jumping in between apps??
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I think its just the browser that is using hwa right now, if its using hwa in UI on ICS it would really make a difference. Maybe not in the time it takes for stuff to happen but overall smoothness, wich imo is not there yet
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Hmm....that's slightly disappointing. I was hoping this phone would be just as smooth out the box based on what everyone is saying about its speed.....well thank God for ICS, cuz the stuttery UI is the androids OS main Achilles heel....we'll see what happens
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Well - it isn't really the "stuttering" people hate about android. Others think it isn't polished like IOS. Not to mention since it's so new - there isn't a lot of "good" apps for it.
With ICS - it'll take use of the graphic processor for the UI so that the primary dual core processor can focus on the tasks. In gingerbread, the processor is doing everything / and the graphic is only doing games. =/
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In gingerbread, the processor is doing everything / and the graphic is only doing games. =/
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You forgot HW accelerated video playback and internet browser ;-) Also, you can always download and use stock Gingerbread launcher, which uses HW acceleration too, AFAIK.
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Well,as long as you don't underclock the device it's buttery smooth.To avoid confusion,Samsung's TouchWiz is hardware accelerated and it's as smooth as the iPhone etc.But even with alternative launchers it's really really smooth.I hate even the slightest hints of lag/stuttering and get annoyed very easily.With the S2 I haven't been annoyed for a long long time(well,sometimes things go wrong when you mess with the device just too much ).
Gingerbread offers HWA, browser, video processing, touchwiz 4.0 to name a few.
However, ICS is 'supposed' to take HWA one step further and fully optimize our high specs - mainly our GPU.
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Well,as long as you don't underclock the device it's buttery smooth.To avoid confusion,Samsung's TouchWiz is hardware accelerated and it's as smooth as the iPhone etc.But even with alternative launchers it's really really smooth.I hate even the slightest hints of lag/stuttering and get annoyed very easily.With the S2 I haven't been annoyed for a long long time(well,sometimes things go wrong when you mess with the device just too much ).
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Touchwiz 4.0 is hardware accelerated?? Wow, that's awesome!! I guess I'm trying to wonder why isn't or wasn't hardware acceleration implemented in the android os long ago???
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Touchwiz 4.0 is hardware accelerated?? Wow, that's awesome!! I guess I'm trying to wonder why isn't or wasn't hardware acceleration implemented in the android os long ago???
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Its up to the manufacturers to add this in. HTC has done it with sense 3 as well.
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Its up to the manufacturers to add this in. HTC has done it with sense 3 as well.
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Htc have hardware accelerated sense 3.0? it's laggy as hell.
Google devs simply didn't deem it necessary, also because not all of the android devices had a decent gpu at the beginning, but obviously all of them had a cpu. They told devs not to do garbage collection regarding this issue, which is imho a very weak strategy. Good that they changed their mind with ICS at least: better late than never, but ofc never late would be better
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Htc have hardware accelerated sense 3.0? it's laggy as hell.
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Sense 3 is smooth as butter animation wise. Its bloated that makes it laggy.
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Sense 3 is smooth as butter animation wise. Its bloated that makes it laggy.
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Browser also hwa?
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Nope.
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Lol Sense is a piece of ****
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Lol Sense is a piece of ****
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Not ! Touchwiz is crap sense is awesome and it doesn't lag either sense 3.5 SON
MyTouch HD (Black)
Kernel demonspeed v7
lagfree 1516Ghz - 768Mhz
Edited Build Prop
Beats Audio
Gingerbread 2.3.5
Dark Side Sense 3.3 !
I own both HTC Sensation and Galaxy S2, I put Android Revolution ROM on the sensation and its smooth and fast, even when I downclock it to 800mhz.
I think by default Hardware Acceleration is not enabled for sense 3.0, the rom fixed that and to be fair.. I really like the sense interface and in terms of software, HTC is really ahead and offers better execution than Samsung.
Speed wise, the galaxy s2 is much much faster even when down clocked to 800mhz, I'm on VillianROM 3.0 and everyhing is flying.... I never liked the stock browser, my browser choice is Dolphin Browser MINI cos its fast and no lag and it can download from multiupload sites
I much prefer Sense over TW, it's a very polished ui, while instead TW is a complete mess: the colors are put together randomly and the overall feeling is that it's much less refined and elegant. TW looks like something designed for kids, while instead Sense has more of a business look, which i like much better. What actually stopped me from getting the Sensation is the fact that it actually performs much worse compared to the GS2, and lacks internal memory. I also got used to AMOLED screens so now i don't wanna go back to LCD because it feels like downgrading. But hey, this is kinda ot
Touchwiz 4.0 is awesome.
All videos of sense ive seen are laggy crap.
TW4 adds some nice features, simple to use and is hardware accellerated - just what i want from a launcher.
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ICS roms and updates seem to be constantly released. I've not tested one since the very first release. But now there's ~5 different releases. If anyone has tried them all, is there one that's particularly stable or good enough for a DD?
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None are FULLY functional yet, but you can try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428866
So far the Camera doesn't work among other things, but I think it's a good place to start to have a feel of what ICS would feel like on our phones
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ICS roms and updates seem to be constantly released. I've not tested one since the very first release. But now there's ~5 different releases. If anyone has tried them all, is there one that's particularly stable or good enough for a DD?
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CM9!! when it comes it will be awesome!!.........if it ever comes lol
I would have to say Quattro. Its too smooth I ran it for about two days but I was missing FM radio. I would suggest give it a spin.
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Hands down, Quattro
For me, none of the available ICS ROMs.
I appreciate the great effort of all the devs but having a dd without a working camera is not an option.
I gave Andromadus beta 8 a go last night. Got to admit, I'm not liking the new look. My problem is just with the recent apps list. on gb, i use it constantly as it holds all the apps i ever use so i never have to go searching through the app list. But the new version is a lot of effort having to scroll and manage apps. Plus the app listis annoying itself having to swipe horizontally. i assume I'd need to change launchers for that. Oh well, back to gb it is.
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Hey man I have tried all the roms at the moment and my vote goes to andromadus alpha 8
Its stable fast and it doesn't have those random app glitches that virtuos quattro has
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+1 for quattro
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Tried Both Andromadus and Quattro and have to say that Quattro feels better so far.
Have tried the Virtous Quattro beta, and its really great looking at this stage. A shame the camera is so hard to get working. Except from the missing camera, this ROM can IMO easily be used for everyday use at the current stage.
+1 for Quattro....Beta 3 is rockin....
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Slight edge to Quattro! To get rid of graphical glitches:
Turn off auto rotate
Disable ALL animation
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Can someone tell me how to turn on my back lighting please.
Oh, and also have this major graphical glitch.
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Can someone tell me how to turn on my back lighting please.
Oh, and also have this major graphical glitch.
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I'm guessing that you are referring to the keyboard back lights, these currently only work when you have automatic brightness enabled.
I have the same graphical glitches occasionally, a temporary fix is to manually stop the launcher in system settings.
None of them. Honestly it's frustrating for us users when the updates are once every 2 days, and we have to deal with constant reflashing of roms + all the random errors that will occur.
Just be patient and wait for CM9.
I tried Quattro and there were graphical glitches among other things.
ILWT, anyone?
I tried andromadus an quattro. But none has a well performance and all drained to much battery. On my Opinion you should wait for a final release, not trying all these alpha-beta version
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My opinion. Try them just to get the feel of them and have fun playing with it. And yeah, battery life blows
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I have tried several ICS roms over the last few weeks. LOADS of updates and alpha/beta. Basically I've been enjoying seeing the dev's work develop. I've tried
Taz's desire z port
Andromadus
Flemmard's original betas which became part of virtuous quattro
I've not tried every revision of these but almost!
With all I have been going back to my highly tuned very stable virtuous affinity DD but I am now on Quattro genuinely as a DD. It is very smooth and stable. With beta 6 I am struggling to recreate the graphical glitches that have been an issue. The features being added are all useful and add something to the rom. Overall very impressed.
Obviously no camera yet and yep almost daily updates is to be expected with betas but that's part of the fun!
Interesting to see what the virtuous team do to distinguish their rom if/when CM9 is released on vision. Unity/Affinity had a substantial userbase due to their super slick/smooth 'almost stock to look at' sense based roms. I don't envisage htc releasing a sense ics for vision so they will have to produce something virtuous from a pure android ics - looking forward to it.
Currently using Virtuous Quattro as my DD. Running quite well for me.
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hi, ive tried out quite a few roms and most of those who were with Sense, while beautiful, they had lag like crazy. i ve ended up with CM7 and MIUI as the top 2 candidates for daily rom however if you ve tried a rom with sense that is also fast and stable, id like to try it so let me know
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Try the Virtuous Affinity v2.05.0
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1346500
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+1 for Affinity. Despite it being a Sense 3.5, there is little lag even on stock speeds and without supercharger.
If you want something alittle more stock, try Sense 2.0 from Virtuous by rmk40. I've been on all of Virtuous' ROM's and have yet to be disappointed by their Sense or AOSP ROM's.
beatmod bliss sense is the best in performance...
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+1 for Affinity. Despite it being a Sense 3.5, there is little lag even on stock speeds and without supercharger.
If you want something alittle more stock, try Sense 2.0 from Virtuous by rmk40. I've been on all of Virtuous' ROM's and have yet to be disappointed by their Sense or AOSP ROM's.
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Definitely try the sense 2.0 been running it for 3 weeks. No lag at all. NONE.
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Definitely try the sense 2.0 been running it for 3 weeks. No lag at all. NONE.
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What you said is very true. Although the expertly crafted sense 3.0 and 3.5 roms have reduced lag to a manageable level, once you run a few intensive apps, then return to the rosie you will experience some lag, unless you play with scripts and/or swap. The issue is not with the excellent work of the devs here, but with the severely limited ram on the Vision.
However, I have yet to experience and kind of lag on a sense 1 or sense 2 rom, and have not required swap. There is so much more free memory with the old sense roms, that rosie reloads just do not happen.
I'm 2nding mike102871 on this. If you really want to use sense as it should be, use sense 2.0 since it was crafted to work on the g2. using sense 3+ is nice, but the g2's spec doesn't actually meet the basic minimum requirement.
I suggest Virtuous Sense. It's the best out there for 2.1
Hi all,
I am stucked by choices.. I love the AOSP ICS rosie UI and features.. but I can't live w/o sense apps and especially HTC Sync. Is there anyway we can have ICS rosie with HTC apps like premium navigation, messages, blah blah and importantly HTC sync ???
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Hi all,
I am stucked by choices.. I love the AOSP ICS rosie UI and features.. but I can't live w/o sense apps and especially HTC Sync. Is there anyway we can have ICS rosie with HTC apps like premium navigation, messages, blah blah and importantly HTC sync ???
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What about an ics-sense rom.?
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Install a Sense rom, and after install launcher ICS Style
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All the ics sense Rom are still abit far from fully working..
Was it possible to change Rosie to ics Rosie?
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AOSP! Speed and efficiency!
It's speed and efficiency, over looks.
I've tried them all, but i always go back to Sense 3.5. (Waiting for stable for daily use 4.0.3 with Sense 3.6)
Well.. I was just wondering if we can have all.. aosp sounds fun but HTC have many widgets and HTC sync to provide the convenience that I need.
Will uninstalling HTC sense do the trick or cause the Rom to Fc?
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It's all driven by personal choice.
I installed an AOSP ICS rom and I loved it, but ultimately, for me the experience was lacking without Sense. So I dropped back down to GB with Sense 3.5.
I'm waiting for a stable ICS release with Sense, will upgrade then
Well, that's why I'm asking if there is any way to combine both..
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I am also a huge fan of Sense. But i'm on IceColdSandwich and really love it for daily use. When there will be a working sense ICS ROM i will switch, but for now i'm going with the AOSP one. You can customize it so that it at least looks like a sense rom
do what I do...keep back up of another rom so if you get twitchy you can flip back etc..actually I have three at the moment .runny 4.0...this is my daily I use this more because of sense...ics just because its smooth and...sweet. and now got absolution.I'm not a gamer so save data etc doesn't matter to me..SMS can be retrieved if needed.contacts are on both so..my 10p worth
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Anyone else find battery life is poorer on sense roms, or is that just me? I'm currently using IceColdSandwich, really nice rom.
Well, an AOSP uses tons less space and ram, so i would imagine the battery life would be immense on that.
I flashed Virtuous Quattro and that used hardly any space in the system partition, where sense Roms use almost all of the space.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.. what I'm trying to find out here is if there is any sense Rom that is possible to be customised to look like ics without losing the advantages of some sense apps and HTC sync. I'm not into switching roms as I prefer to have one to work as my daily driver.
I know of coz ics Rom can be customised to be as close to sense but without sense kernel, there will still be missing HTC sync and some sense apps.
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I've been a sense guy too for a long time but I've recently been following lord's ice cold sandwich rom and I love it more than any sense rom out there.
The great thing would be a rom AOSP
with synchronization, camera and widgets (Sense)
Greetings!
Aosp. I always had sense. But I'm on LC s ics and its great. No more sense for me.
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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.. what I'm trying to find out here is if there is any sense Rom that is possible to be customised to look like ics without losing the advantages of some sense apps and HTC sync. I'm not into switching roms as I prefer to have one to work as my daily driver.
I know of coz ics Rom can be customised to be as close to sense but without sense kernel, there will still be missing HTC sync and some sense apps.
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well yeah...launchers..adw have ics themes,launcherpro..golauncher ex has a sweet ics theme,all it does it change your dock etc and app draw,but lets you slide horizontal so thats good anyway...thats the only way your going to look like ics without losing sense,failing that,use the ics theme on a sense rom
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Perhaps I wasn't clear enough.. what I'm trying to find out here is if there is any sense Rom that is possible to be customised to look like ics without losing the advantages of some sense apps and HTC sync. I'm not into switching roms as I prefer to have one to work as my daily driver.
I know of coz ics Rom can be customised to be as close to sense but without sense kernel, there will still be missing HTC sync and some sense apps.
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Ok I will put it to you simple. The only way to have sense apps is to use Sense. Non of the widgets work without the launcher being used. All of the apps can be replaced with AOSP versions. Not sure about the navagation as I would never use a phone to tell me where i need to go. Sync seems to be a big deal for you and not sure why. There are far better option out there.
So simply if you want to use HTC apps then you will use Sense.
yeah but depends if he wants the widgets..the apps themselves can still work,your not wrong though,the asop is quicker,battery lasts longer.can customize more,..sadly although i have them on my back ups,im a sense rom junkie,gets on my nerves to be honest. im hoping,with sense 4..they up there game now,sense 3.6 is..just with a few added bits not really an overhaul and its debateable whether because its running ice cream in the background if it will actually make a difference
forgot to say,although you can replace all apps from sense with others in asop.The mail app still in my opinion is one of the leaders for that sort of app. If someone could port that out of a sense rom id be chuffed lol
I am currently running Andromadus Mimicry, but I have found it to be quite slow. Has anyone experienced any quick, but stable roms.
Thanks
Another one of these?
Whatever one you use that meets your expectations. There are people here that will run ICS without issues, but state they have issues with Jelly Bean or Gingerbread. It is all a matter of what works for you.
That being said, CM7 based ROMs are your best bet. They are the most developed and mature for the device.
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Another one of these?
Whatever one you use that meets your expectations. There are people here that will run ICS without issues, but state they have issues with Jelly Bean or Gingerbread. It is all a matter of what works for you.
That being said, CM7 based ROMs are your best bet. They are the most developed and mature for the device.
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Thanks, I ran CM7 for a while, but found it quite slow and laggy on my g2. I was just wondering if anyone had found any quick ICS roms.
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If you find Andromadus Mimicry and CM7.2 too slow, than I’m afraid you need a new phone
Minicry might not be 100% stable, but it is pretty close. I think the ICS (or JB) would not be significantly faster even with official HTC kernel (without hacks).
You can overclock your phone and try different governors. This way you can improve the “smoothness” at a cost of battery life. Also be sure you are running ext4 filesystem. And a fast SD card may help too, check if it is at least class 8.
Mimicry flies for me at 1.5ghz
Andromadus test builds with JellyBean are the fastest of all I've tested so far (cm7.*, cm9.*, MIUI, stock sense ROMs etc.). There are some bugs however (in latest build - #71 - for example camera stopped working), but speed, smoothness, and all JB-related-features of this ROM are really outstanding. I believe, that all annoying bugs will be smashed really soon and my G2 will last until new nexus comes out.
Ilwt cm7 #1
Quite slow in what sense? It's been plenty fast for me.
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Quite slow in what sense? It's been plenty fast for me.
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Both of them tend to have some VERY slow slowdown periods, where I have to take out the battery, just to get It responsive.
When I try to overclock it, anything higher than about 1209 (with smartass governor) gives me a bootloop.
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1) Flash 4EXT recovery.
2) Repartition your phone.
3) Flash either an ICS or a JB ROM.
4) Enjoy the faster phone.
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Both of them tend to have some VERY slow slowdown periods, where I have to take out the battery, just to get It responsive.
When I try to overclock it, anything higher than about 1209 (with smartass governor) gives me a bootloop.
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Sounds like you got a bit more than just rom choice for your problem, I've had neither of those issues (could even do 1500mhz if I wanted without a problem).
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1) Flash 4EXT recovery.
2) Repartition your phone.
3) Flash either an ICS or a JB ROM.
4) Enjoy the faster phone.
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Thanks, trying this now. Will post results.
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Thanks, trying this now. Will post results.
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Well, it certinaly worked. It took a little longer than expected, I forgot to make a backup . The phone is a lot faster, with no slowdown periods. The only issue I have is mentioned here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1842347
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lTWL. Fast stable. And battery life is amazing!
How about sense roms?
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I'm coming from GB + CM7 rom, is the new JB or ICS much faster and still retain the phone's full functionality? I'm considering changing to Andromadus Minicry ICS/CM9. Currently, there is considerable lag when I just try to open up e-mail or respond to a text msg.
If there is much improvements, I rather just stay with my current build try not fix something that isn't (completely) broken. Is there a good way to migrate current apps over to the new rom? I'm currently running some crack apps that may not be available anymore.
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How about sense roms?
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Sense beyond 2.1/3.5(gingerbread) generally speaking is too much bloat for desirez/g2, sense 4.0A would be fine cept its been worsen and slowed down with the 3.0 kernel for sake of a working camera. The full sense 4.0 they took the kernel from is slow to the point of practically unusable on our devices.
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I'm coming from GB + CM7 rom, is the new JB or ICS much faster and still retain the phone's full functionality? I'm considering changing to Andromadus Minicry ICS/CM9. Currently, there is considerable lag when I just try to open up e-mail or respond to a text msg.
If there is much improvements, I rather just stay with my current build try not fix something that isn't (completely) broken. Is there a good way to migrate current apps over to the new rom? I'm currently running some crack apps that may not be available anymore.
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Jelly bean still has a bit of work to put into, but there are plenty of fast ICS roms (non-sense) out there with "functional" camera app (post-gb its mainly the camera people complain about)
I've found for me, ICS to be quicker/smoother than stock or CM7.2.
Regarding apps (while I don't condone piracy) titanium backup would be the solution, assuming said apps are compatible with ICS.
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If you want sense, flash sense 4.0 by geneysense it thinks the name. And then use romcleaner and flash after you flash rom and its smmoooth
Hmm, for some reason, Mimicry is giving some trouble with my google account syncing. I am trying CM9 now, to se what its like.
Sense rom next!!
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Hmm, for some reason, Mimicry is giving some trouble with my google account syncing. I am trying CM9 now, to se what its like.
Sense rom next!!
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PS: "CM9" by Jerl is not CM9 Official (ie: it didn't come from the cyanogenmod people), it's just bout the same (if not worse in my opinion) than Mimicry which is based off Andromadus which is based off Cyanogenmod 9's source. Though if you do try Jerl's port of it, I strongly advise you not to use the 3.0 kernel, too many problems with it and he apparently didn't bother testing it before releasing it (or least didn't bother to tell people the risk).
Far as google account syncing, it depends on whether or not you made sure to flash google apps afterwards, and if you accidently booted prior to flashing it, then you need to make sure to remove all your accounts on the phone then re-add them as it says in the OP of that thread.