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Next Handset?

Morning!
Not that I am one to dance on graves or imply than someone is 'gettingonabit'....but the inevitable truth is that our little Hero's have been overtaken by newer, faster and more powerful models with smaller chins.
So with upgrades, including mine, looming I'm asking... What handset will be next? Why that handset? Or will you be waiting for something even shiniererer to come out?
I for one am being drawn to the Desire Z although I'm not that keen ok it's looks. My ideal would be an Android version of HTC 7 Pro.
Ever since I was literally mugged of my T-mobile Vario, I've really missed a physical keyboard. I'm also hoping for something with a decent battery life, so the Desire HD has fallen like Naomi Campbell in high heels and is out it the running straight away.
Look forward to your replies, peeps!
Orangepeel.
*some words in this in this post were made up. A Countdown contestant I am not.
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I'm starting to look around a bit right now too! My upgrade isn't due until about July, but figure unless some nice new phones come out in the next few months (which is highly likely, and they will probably have a price to boot), most of what I'll be looking at on contract is out now!
Desire HD - I like the power but not too keen on the size.
Desire Z - I like the size but it has an 800MHz CPU which is probably ample for my needs.
Galaxy S - I really like HTC Sense, infact it pains me I use a custom ROM on my Hero because Sense is just too slow for me.
I'm even considering a W7 phone - maybe, but I really love the customisability, and geekyness of the Android phones !

my next handset doesnt quite exist yet. I'll retire the hero when I see, dual core, notification light and either a slide out keyboard or a screen above 4.1 inches .. Im hoping htc will bring it.. think I will avoid moto almost regardless as I enjoy custom roms which have kept my hero fresh, to be honest Im upgrading because I cant type easily on the smallish screen/ with lack of physical keyboard.. love the phone otherwise

I decided to take the plunge to WP7 and bought a HTC HD 7 on O2 pay as you go ..as I had never used a Winmob phone before
I love the Big screen and gaming is good although pricey
The phone has problems with the sound and camera but otherwise is a lovely phone
Also being WP7 the apps are slowly trickling in so have to be patient.
My Hero is due for upgrade around 2 months time
so the options I am thinking about are
LG Optimus 2x - Dual core
Motorola Atrix - Dual Core
Nexus S - all for the love of google and front facing camera
Samsung galaxy S - front facing camera
Desire HD - or if Htc comes with any new phones
Nokia N9 - If its worth it
Nokia N8 - Was a nokia fan all along untill Htc came up
Iphone 4 - ZZZzzzzzzzz
I hope HTC seriously comes out with New phones or even Nokia love them hardwares

With MWC in a couple of weeks, you'd be crazy to make any decisions now

The Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc has also, today, just taken my interest too! Due for around March/April release, looks nice, has Android 2.3 and a descent camera by the looks of things!

I have no idea but defently a HTC. Easy rootable

I am waiting to see which phone takes Feeyo

My next handset doesnt exist yet
I want something the same size as the HTC Hero.
Bigger battery (1800amps+ would be great!)
1ghz ish (Not dualcore!)
dedicated gpu would be nice but dont care too much.
I dont care how fast it is (rooting can always get them faster ) but I want the battery to last well before I root. That way it will get even better!
Also with a good Dev community... In fact put that to the top of the list after the past 2 days clusterfuck.... >_>

Coedy said:
Bigger battery (1800amps+ would be great!)
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Heh, heh. I know you probably made an honest mistake but damn... I would love a cell phone battery with 1800 Amps! It would last FOREVER.
At work I do testing of electrical utility grade equipment. Our 2000 Amp transformers are so heavy I can barely move them.

i have hero magic galaxy and epad.
galaxy is beautiful gadget
epad is slow and bad touch. epad is helpful mostly big.
did magic then hero then galaxy. galaxy not as much systems then hero sadly.
best is galaxy with games!

chuhuboy said:
i have hero magic galaxy and epad.
galaxy is beautiful gadget
epad is slow and bad touch. epad is helpful mostly big.
did magic then hero then galaxy. galaxy not as much systems then hero sadly.
best is galaxy with games!
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which galaxy? I've read that galaxy S has lots of aftermarket roms available but galaxy captivate has issues running anything over 2.1 (like, it can even burn itself out!?)

Atrix is coming to Orange... I'm going to struggle avoiding it.
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Hi. Hero is my first android device. I am using it for more than a year and I have started to think about replacing it with something new. First of all I want to say that hero is a brilliant device and I am very happy that I have bought it in september '09. Secondly, I expect from my next cell to have a bigger screen with a bigger resolution, better CPU, more memory and ... a camera flash light.
The DHD is a very nice looking device but it is too big and the battery is weak.
Galaxy S is too shiny and plastic, but the gaming performance and speed is WOW! However it is a Samsung and I have bad memories with them.
So a perfect replacement for my Hero would be the Desire, but .... Motorola and LG are making a big performance leap forward with their dual-core devices. So buying now a Desire wouldn't be smart, cause in a year's time it will probably be like my current hero (quite good, but with many limitations).
So I am looking forward to MWC where there will be announced a replacement for the Desire and I think that will be my next android device.
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@zagielek
You took the words right out of my mouth!

Something I am looking for in my next phone is ANT+ compatibility. Sony Ericsson is the only one announced so far, but I am not keen about them. A samsung or a HTC would be nice. I'm on my 4th HTC at this stage.

Well following MWC nothing really grabbed me.
There are three phones around that I would consider but:
Desire Z: is just a bit crude design wise for me; two tone grey, patches of metal etc. Plus the spec will quickly get dated.
Pro 7: Nice tough looking phone but Windows OS. I would actually consider it but just can't see it having the flexibility and apps of android.
Nokia E7: LOVE the form of this handset. If the little green android was running it I would get it in a heartbeat. But sadly it's Symbian, although a new version, I'm really not sure I'd be happy.
So generally feeling at bit miffed- right handset with wrong OS or wrong handset with right OS.
Might have to consider giving up the keyboard
Orangepeel.
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I'm thinking Nexus S or Galaxy S2...
One thing for sure is this time I'm not tying myself up in a 24 months contract...
In a lot of cases it can work cheaper taking a monthly rolling contract (costs vary between £10-£20 instead of your general £35) and then buying the phone separately. With this option I would however have to downgrade my ambitions...
I could always go for a Droid X HD10 lol...

im going to get a galaxy s 2, really wanted htc to bring out a new device to compete with samsung and lg's new phones

Still looking out for what my next handset it's going to be.
Hopefully, it will be lot's of fun (that is, not bored) like Hero, where there's lots of community forum support and plenty of ROMs available from developers every few weeks/months to flash

I believe I found a worthy successor for my G2

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/03/htc-pyramid-emerges-from-the-mists-of-speculation-with-a-1-2ghz/
*drools*
A May release would also be prefect.
EDIT: Note that I said "a successor for MY G2." As in, it will be the next device I own. I'm not saying that it is T-Mo or HTC's successor to the G2.
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fingers crossed`

I'm actually will be waiting for something like the atrix 4G. Now that is something I can get behind. Love the whole idea.
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I no c da keyboardz!

Screen is too big.
No keyboard.
How can that possibly be worthy? It isn't even a worthy successor to HTC DREAM.

That's so mean to the G2. The G2 is like still in its adolescent stages in life, and you are already talking about replacing the G2. Poor G2. I'll let my G2 live to a ripe old age before replacing it!

No hardware keyboard = no replacement.

4.3" is pretty big. I had the HD2 with Android and while the real estate was nice, it was a bit wonky.
I'll keep my eye on it though.

the orange bandit said:
No hardware keyboard = no replacement.
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My thoughts exactly. One of the primary reasons I bought the Desire Z was because of the decent hardware keyboard. A device without it is definatly not an actual successor for me. The HTC Pyramid looks more like a Desire HD replacement.

dhkr234 said:
Screen is too big.
No keyboard.
How can that possibly be worthy? It isn't even a worthy successor to HTC DREAM.
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I gladly welcome the larger screen at the higher resolution, and I didn't mind the size of the EVO. Also, they hardware keyboard is but a minor bonus in my book. The Pyramid crushes the G2 in every single way to me.
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To sorta echo others here, I came to the G2 for the subdued, industrial design, and stayed for the hardware keyboard. This new phone sounds pretty amazing on paper, but HTC is kind of hit or miss with how their phones look. Give me lots of brushed steel and a surprise physical keyboard, then we'll talk.
Beyond that, I don't see how this phone crushes the G2. It's like saying "phones two years from now crush the G2." Well, sure, probably. But not yet.

Come on HDMI out =)

sounds sweet indeed, but I wouldn't even compare it to the G2.
this just sounds like another flashy, "look at my phone it is cooler than yours" device. that's all well and good and I'm sure it's going to be blisteringly fast and have some amazing features that I'll be envious of, but I went to the G1 and then the G2 for reasons that this device won't address.
for me, form follows function... and I can already tell this is going to be catered to the form crowd.

Thracia said:
To sorta echo others here, I came to the G2 for the subdued, industrial design, and stayed for the hardware keyboard. This new phone sounds pretty amazing on paper, but HTC is kind of hit or miss with how their phones look. Give me lots of brushed steel and a surprise physical keyboard, then we'll talk.
Beyond that, I don't see how this phone crushes the G2. It's like saying "phones two years from now crush the G2." Well, sure, probably. But not yet.
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From a purely technical standpoint, it is better than the G2 in every way (not counting the hardware keyboard since that's hit or miss). I'm ASSUMING HTC won't do anything like Samsung did with the Nexus S and just leave out basic features present in existing handsets.
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I also went to the G2 for the keyboard but I'm not too afraid of losing it. It's seems like all the super phones coming out are ditching the keyboard so I might as well get used to it. Who knows, maybe I will like the once piece design better than a slider or flip. But I'm not going to have to find that out for another 2 years or so.

I can imagine their advertisements: "Buy an HTC Pyramid now and we will send you back-pack for free!"
No really, 4.3' screen on MOBILE PHONE is madness.
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AllWin said:
I can imagine their advertisements: "Buy an HTC Pyramid now and we will send you back-pack for free!"
No really, 4.3' screen on MOBILE PHONE is madness.
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It really isn't. The EVO fit perfectly into my hand, and I don't have crazy Andre the Giant hands.

Just like the G1 im expecting to have this phone for 2 years

znanoDA said:
Just like the G1 im expecting to have this phone for 2 years
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I don't know how you guys do it! I know it isn't financially viable for everyone to always upgrade to the latest and greatest, but I just have to get a new phone after about 6-8 months. The technology just moves so fast, and I honestly get a little bored!

if you didn't get the G2 for the keyboard, than excuse me but why did you get the G2? it's my favorite phone of all time, yes, but the whole point of getting it is the keyboard. otherwise there's like 100 equally or more powerful android devices you could have gotten.

Htc again?

I love htc but they did us wrong with the kernal source. I know we got it but they made us wait a while. Even though we did well without is thanks to our awesome devs. I was wondering if all you out there will stick to htc or go elsewhere due to the support? Im not totally mad because like i said we did great without it. Let me know whats in on your mind.
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i'm still gonna support HTC cause no matter what they got the build quality and i love sense still the best

Yeah Sense UI is what keeps me with HTC, its just so pretty and their phones are solid, but here recently i have been thinking alot about them doing us wrong on source but HTC is where ill prolly stay.I have been looking at the Design too
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The build quality on HTC's are solid. The kernel source was really frustrating to me and the way Samsung is handling things makes me want to go Samsung next device. Alas I still have another year+ for an upgrade.

I love HTC I know they took a lot to release the kernel source, like everybody else the build of their phones is great, the htc loggers issue and now the wimax issue.. and still love sense no other manufacturer skin on top is better.
I just switchd to the Motorola Photon just cause it has a great build quality, better radios the international capabilities and is faster overall but the most important thing is that I bought it brand new for only 250 bucks that was less than half price...
But I would definitely buy HTC again in the future.

I agree with others that HTC makes a great phone, and I love Sense; but I'll probably go to a different manufacturer next time around due to the lack of communication from HTC about the delay in releasing our source plus the data logging being done unscrupulously by HTC.

strapped365 said:
Yeah Sense UI is what keeps me with HTC, its just so pretty and their phones are solid, but here recently i have been thinking alot about them doing us wrong on source but HTC is where ill prolly stay.I have been looking at the Design too
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I was thinking of the Design too. I figured by New Years/Christmas that maybe the price would drop a little and i can get a good deal on it

It's true HTC did screw everyone by holding up the Source Kernel. I for one am truely pissed off by this. But that being said, I WILL buy an HTC device when I finally decide to retire my Shift. Because I prefer their devices to all the others I have owned (Samsung, Motorola, LG, Sanyo).

Rynomite said:
I agree with others that HTC makes a great phone, and I love Sense; but I'll probably go to a different manufacturer next time around due to the lack of communication from HTC about the delay in releasing our source plus the data logging being done unscrupulously by HTC.
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The data logging is done by all manufacturers... samsung's is called "carrier iq"... we will never escape big brother...
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drob311 said:
The data logging is done by all manufacturers... samsung's is called "carrier iq"... we will never escape big brother...
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You can believe that , big brother is always watching. Here's a little tid bit for all you out there. I read somewhere recently that their are over 1 million surveillance cameras active in the US

I'm gonna stick with HTC because they have the best quality android phone with sprint. The samsungs and lgs feel like toys and also feel like if you dropped them they'd break. Plus Sense is awsome....
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Although HTC has delayed the Evo Shift kernel source they have stuck to their word on other devices. Look at how fast the kernel source for the HTC Sensation and HTC Evo 3D were released. But like others said I am also pissed about how they kept it from us for so long. Then the only reason they did is because we all got sick of it here on xda and decided to bug the sh** out of them about it. Next time we need to not wait so long and get on their a**es right away
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Definitely will stay with HTC. They, imo, have the best quality devices. And yes ill say it also, sense rocks!!
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I will go with whatever company has a phone with the features I am looking for and it must be able to be rooted fully and I want the Kernel sources released in a timely manner. Build quality is one major thing I do look for. I will not switch from Sprint either...I get too good of an employee discount through my work(24%).
I was in Sam's Club yesterday and handled some of the phones and the Epic Touch 4G is way too big and feels cheap. I would probably not buy a Samsung because of how they feel even though the features and screens seem nice...way too big on the Epic Touch. But nice if they made a high end phone in a 4" screen or smaller like last years models. I am not sure if the screens would overcome the build quality...tough call. Samsung does seem a little better lately with support though.
The Photon felt really nice. It felt solid and seemed to have nice features including a nice kickstand. The styling is a nice change as well. I would consider a Motorola based on build quality and features but I wouldn't buy one until a full root was achieved. They seem better lately but I don't trust them as a company.
The HTC EVO Design 4G felt the best of the bunch. I would love that phone if it had the specs of some of the higher end phones. The build quality was great. It reminded me of the Nexus One based on how it has the unibody type build to it. I would consider this phone in a heartbeat if it had a dual core processor.
The EVO 3D was nice as well but I hate the fact I would be buying a phone with 3D. Even though I could turn it off I hate knowing I am paying for a feature like that which I don't care about. Give me the EVO 3D specs in the EVO Design body/screen size minus the 3D and I'd be in heaven.
It is just too bad you have to buy a tablet sized screen to get the best specs anymore. After owning the EVO Shift as my first smartphone and using Swype and Swift Key X I will not buy another phone with a hardware keyboard but I will also not buy a phone with a screen larger than 4" so I am in a sort of dilemma as I don't have a lot of choices these days in high end phones. Hopefully by January-June 2013 there will be better options with better sized screens available. That Epic Touch just felt huge. There is no way it would be comfortable to put in my pocket.
Anyway, back on topic. Yes, I would buy another HTC but not out of brand loyalty or anything like that. I buy based on what the phone has to offer.

amoled looks soooo good that I'll be jumping brands when the time comes.

I'm actually upgrading from my shift to an epic 4g touch but strictly for issues with the device(ie. Messages, contacts, replacements w/ corroded motherboards) but I plan on keeping my shift and rooting it. Just can't stay with a manufacturer who can't do anything to help on a carrier who only cares about high end devices.
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Upcoming Android Phones?

Just curious to know if there are any details of upcoming Android phones in the year 2012? I have searched Google extensively but details appear to be very scarce.
Personally I would like to get a non-hardware keyboard phone for my next one (my last three HTC phones have had keyboards, and you can probably guess which phones they were!). So ideally would like a fairly thin phone, but with a decent battery in it. Would also like much more onboard storage (32gb).
Unfortunately details for upcoming phones seem to be heavily under lock and key.

What's after GNexus
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. After the GNexus, everyone's tight lipped about what they're coming up with.
Just tried a GNexus at the Bell Store (Canada) and didn't walk out too impressed. So I'm now anxiously waiting on other vendors to step up the game and introduce those ICS ready, less capacitive buttons phones already.
Let's see what they have in store for us in 2012.

we shud get something future proof. desire z is good. yes they can use ICS. but we lack a lot of cool feature. maybe like NFC? /: hope new phones are cheap and awesome like dz.

nelsdzyre said:
we shud get something future proof. desire z is good. yes they can use ICS. but we lack a lot of cool feature. maybe like NFC? /: hope new phones are cheap and awesome like dz.
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The top of range of the new phones, one that is unanimously considered fantastic, will probably cost a hell of a lot. But as long as it isn't priced silly like an iPhone, then I won't mind taking out a 2 year contract if the phone is really good and ticks all the boxes.

I'm hanging onto my Desire Z till HTC comes out with another slide-out keyboard phone...

I want a new phone to replace my Vision - anyone heard any rumours about any decent qwerty handsets coming out?

Only ones I've heard about are the Dell Hancock and Motorola Droid 4 (RAZR with a keyboard). Both of which I doubt will get released in the UK.
It's a shame HTC haven't announced anything because my contract's up soon and I'm wanting a new toy to play with.

GSMarena seems to have the good list of phones, and some rumored ones too. I feel it's more a case of ditching hardware keyboards because of more time, money and resources needed to make them. Maybe that's why HTC is able to crank out so many touch phones but rarely any keyboard ones.
The few best out there are the Samsung i927 and Motorola XT860. Both are on dual core processors.
Here's the current list via GSMarena search for 800Mhz, 512mb RAM and up phones.

:-/
QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(

moarnao said:
QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(
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Yep, seems like "the best" supported QWERTY out there right now, factoring dev support is the Mytouch 4g Slide. G2 comes the second. As far as I can tell, the dev on the MT4GS on CM9 has posted youtubes of his progress in their section. It looks on par with the progress of our DZ ICS roms.
But I don't want to drop my plan and head over to T-mobile. I'm comfortable with my provider.
I hope it doesn't come to the day QWERTY phones become a dying breed esp with XDA devs. The lack of "must-have" QWERTY releases are making it look like it is.

moarnao said:
QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(
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Indeed. Next QWERTY phone or G3 like successor better have quadcore support, hi-grade build quality, all the feature of current flagships, heck GLONASS support and definitely no provider advertized phone like the mytouch series, plain factory phones only.
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Well, if Apple has their way in court, there won't be any Android phones anymore. They are winning patent case after patent case, and their goal is to shut Android down and have a monopoly on the smartphone market. Some think android is in real trouble... though it will likely be a case of Google having to pay a truckload of money to Apple. Gotta love modern capitalism....

Sheesh, didn't know the legal battle between them was serious enough for an OS extinction. The patent system is seriously corrupted.
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I know.. suing over the slide to lock and unlock???? Wtf? How can you patent an idea? It was an idea at the time apple filed a patent for it, way before the 1st Gen iPhone came into being.
Your right about patents killing a OS.
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ampdj89 said:
Sheesh, didn't know the legal battle between them was serious enough for an OS extinction. The patent system is seriously corrupted.
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Apple just banned the sale of all HTC phones running Froyo and below, including the G2 (without upgrade), starting in April. If it keeps going this way, Apple will take over.

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Apple just banned the sale of all HTC phones running Froyo and below, including the G2 (without upgrade), starting in April. If it keeps going this way, Apple will take over.
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You mean filed a lawsuit to ban them, good luck apple...good luck. I for one am happy to see apple wasting buttloads of cash on crying about android. Next quarter they'll slip even more
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This is ridiculous. How does the DZ/G2 or even hardware keyboard phones come close to the function of an iPhone?

kaijura said:
This is ridiculous. How does the DZ/G2 or even hardware keyboard phones come close to the function of an iPhone?
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They're superior and sell more...hence why apple is jealous...they should be used to it by now wouldn't u think?
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Apple just lost one of them to Samsung recently. I really doubt they will win because they are downright ridiculous. I think the judges are starting to realize that apple is just sue-happy and thinks everyone stole their work. Pretty soon they start suing the produce guys claiming they stole their name lol! Idiots!
I'm curious about a new qwerty HTC also. The only newer choice we have is the MyTouch 4G Slide but it has ZERO dev support. I guess I'll see if I can make it until the next G model or something. My G2 is in pretty good shape so I'll be okay for a while, I hope
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Yep, seems like "the best" supported QWERTY out there right now, factoring dev support is the Mytouch 4g Slide. G2 comes the second. As far as I can tell, the dev on the MT4GS on CM9 has posted youtubes of his progress in their section. It looks on par with the progress of our DZ ICS roms.
But I don't want to drop my plan and head over to T-mobile. I'm comfortable with my provider.
I hope it doesn't come to the day QWERTY phones become a dying breed esp with XDA devs. The lack of "must-have" QWERTY releases are making it look like it is.
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Wha? They have literally 4 whole pages of their development section lol! what are you talking about?!

Unfortunately, Apple has taken the road of "if you can't beat em, sue em". They are just pissed because somebody came around, and gave people what they wanted, instead of TOLD them what they wanted. Like how about big screen smartphones, and the ability to move files without having to use Apple's crappy iTunes bloatware? And now they wonder why Android has taken the smartphone marketshare from them.
Now Apple is burning the bridges with other companies that made the iPhone what it is, in an attempt to extort Android from the top spot. Samsung has made the CPUs for all the iPhones, and the memory chips for many of them, until recently where Apple is now trying to move to other suppliers, so it can more easily attack Samsung without repercussions. And how useless would the iPhone be without the Google search engine, or Google Maps? Some have postulated that the iPhone location logging debacle earlier this year was an indication that Apple is trying to come up with a map and navigation solution so it can break away from Google.
Hopefully, the recent patent ruling against HTC will be tied up with appeals and countersuits. I don't see the smartphone landscape changing just from a few patent suits. And hopefully that would never happen, as I enjoy having a smartphone that actually acts like a computer, not a closed architecture iPod.
Back to the OP, it seems like HTC's is just starting to reveal specs on its 2012 devices. Of interest are the Elite (4.7" display and LTE on AT&T), the Ville (4.3" AMOLED display, dual core 1.5 GHz CPU) and the Edge (4.7" SLCD and quad core 1.5 GHz NVIDIA CPU). Unfortunately, no hint of anything with a hardware keyboard anytime soon, AFAIK.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/19/htc-elite-flagship-phone-and-4g-lte-windows-phone-to-hit-att-in-early-2012/
http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/09/htc-ville-detailed-htc-sense-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-thinner-than-iphone/
http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/08/htc-edge-to-lead-the-smartphone-pack-with-quad-core-cpu-optically-laminated-display-and-unibody-design/
The HTC Vivid (released on AT&T earlier this month) looks pretty nice. But the body is a little too angular and plastic for my liking. It seems that HTC might be (thankfully) going back to the aluminum unibody that it has become known for.

Future smartphone with keyboard?

Hi there,
Does anyone know if there is a smartphone planned like the Desire Z?
For me the keyboard is the most important feature of my smartphone.

I recall a thread in which an xda user had sent an e-mail to HTC about this and they mentioned about it being discussed over at HTC Headquarters. They will probably release another phone but I wouldn't expect to make much out of it. The new line of HTC phones will probably be harder to unlock (if it's even possible, that is), and I wouldn't expect a userbase as large as this phones'. It seems like the Physcical keyboard are becoming deprecated...
However, if you don't exactly mind the above I'd say this phone will last you long enough till another HTC Device with a H/W Keyboard is released.

crestofawave said:
The new line of HTC phones will probably be harder to unlock (if it's even possible, that is)
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The One X has already been rooted, before its even released. Although you have to unlock the bootloader via HTC Unlock first (and therefore void your warranty);.

Not exactly your ideal tradeoff, especially for a phone like the One X...
So, it's still hard to unlock whilst preserving your warranty.

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Not exactly your ideal tradeoff, especially for a phone like the One X...
So, it's still hard to unlock whilst preserving your warranty.
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The phone isn't even released yet! So it remains to be seen how hard it will be.
Talk about impatient! . . .

I am in despair about any new keyboard phones coming
I am considering, that if my Desire Z stops working, getting a large-screen dual or quad-core phone. Something like the Galaxy Note. Perhaps the on-screen keyboard will work better for me on a large-screen phone.
I am also worried about the trend towards having no SD cards or removable batteries.

I wouldlike to see that too. The problem is, i cant mind the design of such a phone. New generation Smartphone are thin and stylie. The DZ ist in fact a bit too fat for that. Then if we got the whole thing thinner, we have a lack of hardwarepower, that leads us to lower cpu and ram.
I dunno what u think but i can type much faster and more precisely on HWK than on display. Its more silent too. The vibrating Feedback on screen is way louder than that little "click" on HWK, and can make people standing around u thinking "wtf is he raping his phone?".
There are some improvements in my mind too. For example: instead of the "never-used-shortcut-buttons" (at least i never did) there should be "left" and "right". Than u can choose the right displayed word (when typing long words) and hit enter. Makes u saving even more time.
I would buy the next HWK-HTC Sense Phone, definitly!

I am waiting for the next one as well... And yeah, this phone can really last long until maybe HTC releases a new HWK phone... I'm hoping sometime this year... If not, I might jump over to another manufacturer...
Also, I don't think they need to sacrifice power for phones with HWK, since most of us don't mind fat phones like the DZ. I'd rather want to see the next HWK from HTC in the mid to high end hardware-wise. I'd be happy if we get card slot and removable battery. I'm also getting worried about the trend of having no removeable battery. I might be able to tollerate no card slot, but I'd be worried if my phone has no removeable battery.
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burtcom said:
I am in despair about any new keyboard phones coming
I am considering, that if my Desire Z stops working, getting a large-screen dual or quad-core phone. Something like the Galaxy Note. Perhaps the on-screen keyboard will work better for me on a large-screen phone.
I am also worried about the trend towards having no SD cards or removable batteries.
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I have a GT 7.7 and the experience of typing onscreen is nowhere near the experience of the HWK. I was considering using the tab as my mobile office, however, I will stick to my DZ for that and use the Tab for entertainment and reading.
I dream of a 4" screen quadcore HTC with HWK and card slot. The nonremovable battery wouldn't bother me much.
Also, I don't consider the DZ a thick phone. If you compare it with other smartphone it is thicker, but I find it very balanced.
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hey OP there are a few different options. I actually am in the same quandry and thus am looking possibly at returning to an android keyboard phone..
Options:
-Droid 4
-Motorola Admiral
-HTC MyTouch Slide 4G
-SE Xperia Pro
check out my thread for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1552248

redpoint73 said:
The phone isn't even released yet! So it remains to be seen how hard it will be.
Talk about impatient! . . .
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Just interested to see how things are going to fold out, as I'm considering an upgrade by the start of the next year. I had read a post at some site noting something about htc locking down it's bootloaders thus making it next to impossible to get s-off, et cetera. Hope that's not the case, else there's not much room for upgrade...
Sent from my DZ.

crestofawave said:
I had read a post at some site noting something about htc locking down it's bootloaders thus making it next to impossible to get s-off, et cetera. Hope that's not the case, else there's not much room for upgrade...
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Unlocking the bootloader via HTC Unlock lets you load custom ROMs, you just need to do it through fastboot, since its not true S-Off.
And yes, HTC Unlock voids your warranty. But HTC's claim is that lots of noobs are messing up their phones when trying to mod them, and trying to claim them as warranty repairs. If the problem is really as bad as HTC claims, it seems like a fair tradeoff. Based on the noobs coming here asking for a "one-click root" and too lazy to use the Wiki method, I'm inclined to believe HTC's claim. Too many people getting into rooting and modding, and too lazy to really learn and understand what they are doing.

True that. Some people here always expect things to just happen.
And I'd also have to agree with HTC, whether I like it or not. But I think that the way they address this issue is too extreme. Voiding the entire warranty is not the way to do it. What they should instead do is "modify" the conditions. Although I guess it's more beneficial in terms of money to go with the former option.

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And I'd also have to agree with HTC, whether I like it or not. But I think that the way they address this issue is too extreme. Voiding the entire warranty is not the way to do it. What they should instead do is "modify" the conditions. Although I guess it's more beneficial in terms of money to go with the former option.
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That's true. Unlocking the bootloader shouldn't void the warranty in the case of hardware failures.

sebastian_henze said:
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there is a smartphone planned like the Desire Z?
For me the keyboard is the most important feature of my smartphone.
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Same here tried the Sensation XL and the big screen made the onscreen keyboard a little easier, however came back to the DZ for the keypad. Also didn't realise how much I used the trackpad until I didn't have one. So eagerly awaiting the G3

Are you guys just speculating about a g3 or are there some rumors out there??
The more I continue my quest the more the mtouch 4g slide looks like a rocking phone with a solid keyboard and great specs.. What sayeth you all?!?

What i don't understand is why the sony xperia pro seems to be such an unknown phone. I remember it got really good reviews, so i don't know why it isn't really mentioned much at all.

magic_android said:
What i don't understand is why the sony xperia pro seems to be such an unknown phone. I remember it got really good reviews, so i don't know why it isn't really mentioned much at all.
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It wasnt advertised much by sony. If it had a community as good as ours id have got it
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austriker27 said:
Are you guys just speculating about a g3 or are there some rumors out there??
The more I continue my quest the more the mtouch 4g slide looks like a rocking phone with a solid keyboard and great specs.. What sayeth you all?!?
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Just speculating and wishful thinking... Looked at the Sony Experian Pro and looked very good, but agree with the previous comments about the community support.

austriker27 said:
Are you guys just speculating about a g3 or are there some rumors out there??
The more I continue my quest the more the mtouch 4g slide looks like a rocking phone with a solid keyboard and great specs.. What sayeth you all?!?
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The MT4GS is a solid phone with a community that is growing steadily. Get it if you can
HTC are now moving away from the traditional way of releasing their phones to having a single phone for each tier as is with the HTC One series of phones, so probability for a G3 is even slimmer now.
sent from a Nokia 3210