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HTC HD2 or wait for...?

Well, it seems it is a though decision for many people besides me...
I went from a HTC Touch to a i780 from Samsung. Much better phone than the Touch as everybody should know. Used it for more than a year till I got my hands on a new Samsung Jet. Very nice phone, much lighter, smaller, nice interface, and above all a awesome display (AMOLED 800x480). So I bought it a few months ago, but... the problem is when someone is used to a real smartphone with all the software and apps available, and the true customization options... So, Jet to the closet and i780 back on use, but... always a "but"... after getting used to the awesome display, the i780 just looks like crap.
Ok, so even with lot's of phones on every corner of my house, I'm convinced to get something new. I've tried a HTC Hero from a friend and really liked the HTC Sense interface. Android also seem's to work fine under the Sense skin, but the display and an old OS version (android 1.6) doesn't convince me to spend my money as I know I'll always be thinking on something more "up to date".
I went through net surfing and some stores, and the HD2 is really a awesome device: great, great display, fast, etc... But as we know, soon there will be some great new devices: the HTC Supersonic (HD2 alike with Android); the HTC Bravo (much alike Nexus One, but with the awesome HTC Sense); and the Nexus One itself (not yet available in Portugal, but soon it will get here). Besides those, there will be a new iPhone soon, and I don't believe Apple want's to loose the race of smartphones with a new iPhone with lower specs than the others, so probably a great iPhone will come to the light. I must say, I'm a Mac user, but never felt the "need" for an iPhone, but I confess I really like it.
So, in my place, what would you do? HD2 right now or wait for the others?
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HTC Supersonic
HTC Bravo
iPhone

Wait for the 5" Dell mini 5 on Android!
I think the new iphone will be very similar in specs to the ipad and it will not have any special '4G' apps. But I could be wrong.

4G is supposed to be the name of the new iPhone... I'm not thinking about new apps, only better specs: display, camera, faster cpu, etc...

By the time 4G/LTE is actually a reasonably implemented cellular standard across Europe, the iPhone "4G" will look like a toy from half a decade ago...
Be happy that there are at least a few places in Portugal with 7.2mbps HSDPA service, and generally available 3.6mbps/1.8mbps maximum speeds (all theoretical, of course).
Just get a HD2 now, friend.

I think you can expect a 5mpix camera, 1GHz Apple processor and MAYBE a better display... which means, in the best case, the specs will match the HTC Bravo.
So, I'd say forget about the iPhone. No iPhone could yet match the hardware specs of its competitors, and that won't change with the next version.
Question that remains: HTC Bravo or HD2... right now, I'd say Bravo, BUT that won't be available until March, which is when Windows Mobile 7 will have already been unveiled.
Bottom line: Wait until the announcement of Windows Mobile 7 on February 15. Chances are that it will blow away every bit of desire you now feel for Android or iPhone

blastop said:
By the time 4G/LTE is actually a reasonably implemented cellular standard across Europe, the iPhone "4G" will look like a toy from half a decade ago...
Be happy that there are at least a few places in Portugal with 7.2mbps HSDPA service, and generally available 3.6mbps/1.8mbps maximum speeds (all theoretical, of course).
Just get a HD2 now, friend.
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You are right my friend, but once more I want to make an attention call for this: iPhone 4G, it's only the name of the device. It doesn't mean it's built for 4th generation networks. At least, it's the name already seen in the source code of the latest updates of iPhone OS. The new iPhone, will be called 4G the same way it could be called 3GSS, or something else...

freyberry said:
I think you can expect a 5mpix camera, 1GHz Apple processor and MAYBE a better display... which means, in the best case, the specs will match the HTC Bravo.
So, I'd say forget about the iPhone. No iPhone could yet match the hardware specs of its competitors, and that won't change with the next version.
Question that remains: HTC Bravo or HD2... right now, I'd say Bravo, BUT that won't be available until March, which is when Windows Mobile 7 will have already been unveiled.
Bottom line: Wait until the announcement of Windows Mobile 7 on February 15. Chances are that it will blow away every bit of desire you now feel for Android or iPhone
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Aside from the awesome display, the Bravo it's the one most appealing. HD2 or Supersonic, really have great displays, but they are uncomfortable big to carry out on your pocket (pants pocket of course).
About Windows 7, let's wait and see. To say the true, I've always been a Linux/MacOS user and fan (I work as IT Security Specialist, so Windows is always a bad work tool), but to be honest, I've never had problems with Windows based mobile devices...
At least I hope WinMobile 7 to be as good as Windows 7 for PC.

Aside from the awesome display, the Bravo it's the one most appealing.
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Yeah, NOW... but as I said, by the time the Bravo gets available, you may already have seen WM7 and may not find the Bravo appealing anymore.
You should just wait now, it's a long time until Bravo, iPhone 4G etc. get available and with the speed that smartphones are evolving, what seems appealing now may already be boring with a month.
If you want a new phone right now, get the HD2. That's undoubtedly the best smartphone thats available now in Europe.
But if you don't mind waiting, just stop wondering now about what you should buy and wait what will happen.
And by the way, the HD2 will not be too big for your pocket at all. In fact, I find it more comfortable than the iPhone 3G and the Touch HD I had before, due to the reduced thickness.
At least I hope WinMobile 7 to be as good as Windows 7 for PC.
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Which would make it the best mobile OS
(says someone who has never touched Mac OS X again since the first beta of Windows 7)

freyberry said:
If you want a new phone right now, get the HD2. That's undoubtedly the best smartphone thats available now in Europe.
And by the way, the HD2 will not be too big for your pocket at all. In fact, I find it more comfortable than the iPhone 3G and the Touch HD I had before, due to the reduced thickness.
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Right now, it is really the best one. But will in the future be available an official OS update with WM7? This is probably the most popular question on the forum about the HD2, and if it really has some "hidden" memory to support it...
About it's size, I tried one in the shop when I was carrying my i780. It is bigger than the i780 and it really feels that big in my pocket, even without the leather case. Bigger than my i780, which is uncomfortable in the pocket (front left pocket of my pants) specially when driving... but I forgive it for the awesome display

Right now, it is really the best one. But will in the future be available an official OS update with WM7?
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The HD2 definitely supports it. It does not need any hidden memory, the official specs are enough. I can promise you this.
What I can not promise, is that HTC will release an official upgrade. If they don't there's still a chance that WM7 for the HD2 will be leaked.
But if you want to be sure, just wait another two weeks, cause it's likely that if they will release an official upgrade, they will announce it at the same time Microsoft annouces WM7.
My advice is: Wait for two weeks, and if you like WM7 and there will be an official upgrade, then buy the HD2.
If you don't like what Microsoft shows at MWC, then you can still think about what device to buy. Right now, wondering about what to buy is just a waste of time, because a lot will change in the next few weeks.

The wait will kill me

Anymore opinions?

JorgeMPVCosta said:
Well, it seems it is a though decision for many people besides me...
I went from a HTC Touch to a i780 from Samsung. Much better phone than the Touch as everybody should know. Used it for more than a year till I got my hands on a new Samsung Jet. Very nice phone, much lighter, smaller, nice interface, and above all a awesome display (AMOLED 800x480). So I bought it a few months ago, but... the problem is when someone is used to a real smartphone with all the software and apps available, and the true customization options... So, Jet to the closet and i780 back on use, but... always a "but"... after getting used to the awesome display, the i780 just looks like crap.
Ok, so even with lot's of phones on every corner of my house, I'm convinced to get something new. I've tried a HTC Hero from a friend and really liked the HTC Sense interface. Android also seem's to work fine under the Sense skin, but the display and an old OS version (android 1.6) doesn't convince me to spend my money as I know I'll always be thinking on something more "up to date".
I went through net surfing and some stores, and the HD2 is really a awesome device: great, great display, fast, etc... But as we know, soon there will be some great new devices: the HTC Supersonic (HD2 alike with Android); the HTC Bravo (much alike Nexus One, but with the awesome HTC Sense); and the Nexus One itself (not yet available in Portugal, but soon it will get here). Besides those, there will be a new iPhone soon, and I don't believe Apple want's to loose the race of smartphones with a new iPhone with lower specs than the others, so probably a great iPhone will come to the light. I must say, I'm a Mac user, but never felt the "need" for an iPhone, but I confess I really like it.
So, in my place, what would you do? HD2 right now or wait for the others?
Reference links:
HTC Supersonic
HTC Bravo
iPhone
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whats the point in waiting ? every few monats a new really cool phone come out. and you can not compare these phones, there is one windows mobile phone,3 android phones and a osx phone.

Um, what about the Diamond 3/Obsession, or whatever it will be called???
I'm itching to buy an HD2, I even went and had another play with one today : ) However, there are two things stopping me buying it. One is size, the other is that the lack of an AMOLED display.
At the end of last year I bought an Acer S200 with Snapdragon chip. It was awesome because it was so fast : ) The downside was the lack of people developing stuff for it here on XDA, so when the headphone jack failed after two weeks, I sent it back. The next phone I tried was an Omnia II, which was dog slow compared to the Acer, but, of course, it was a little bit smaller than the Acer and it had a beautiful AMOLED screen...
So, I reckon, if you're unsure of the size, wait until the MWC in a couple of weeks and see what is announced. If HTC release a WinMo device that is the size of the Bravo or smaller, but still has a 3.7" sreen and Snapdragon chip, I'm buying it ; )
With regard to WinMo 7, I have one big worry. What if the specs that have been leaked are a minumum standard??? What if our Snapdragon devices struggle to run it like earlier Qualcomm chipsets struggle with 6.5?? What if you actually need the faster Snapdragon, or even dual core Snapdragon chipset to run it well? Just a thought : )

If you want a new phone now, buy the HD2 as it is by far the best one out there. If you can wait, there is always something better coming in the future.
But then, if "something better" is finally out, there will probably be another something better if you can wait another while...

Ouzo said:
With regard to WinMo 7, I have one big worry. What if the specs that have been leaked are a minumum standard??? What if our Snapdragon devices struggle to run it like earlier Qualcomm chipsets struggle with 6.5?? What if you actually need the faster Snapdragon, or even dual core Snapdragon chipset to run it well? Just a thought : )
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Don't believe the bull**** people spread on the internet. The HD2 runs WM7 perfectly.

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and you can not compare these phones, there is one windows mobile phone,3 android phones and a osx phone.
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What he said. To me from what I've tried android is a big "meh", so it's out. iPhone is even more out for lack of multitasking, closed environment, etc. So that leaves only the HD2. And, good news, I've loved it when trying it. So my order will go out next week

You cannot chase technology and win my friend, whatever you buy now will be old in 4 months time. R&D is always way ahead. Whatever you buy, buy it for your needs and learn to be satisfied, remembering that they will ALWAYS be something new just around the corner, and if you don't adjust your thinking you will always be unhappy as soon as the next thing comes out.

Is the Hero worth buying now?

SO.. as the title says... is the Hero worth buying now?
Also, I`ve read here about some problems with the touch screen that suddenly appear... is that a general issue or just some isolated incidents?

The phone is over a year old now, the CPU is a generation older than the other Android devices with the 1GHz Snapdragon processor. I'm sure the phone manufacturers are preparing the next generation devices for later in the year - making those phones obsolete.
If you're after a cheap device then you should be able to get a Hero second hand for a decent price. If you're willing to root and try new ROMs then there is still a decent community for the Hero - otherwise you'll be stuck on Android 2.1 if you stick with the official updates. The Hero is highly unlikely to get any more updates from HTC.
If your budget allows for a newer phone, then you'd be better off getting a more powerful Android device.

Thanks, I too think that it`s a little old, but it has a fairly good price, almost the same as Wildfire here, where I live, but that qvga screen on the Wildfire is a let down for me.

Alex~ is bang on, it is cheap,and the community on here is great, so if your gona be using custom roms then go for it. But I wouldn't like to say how many devs will still bother with us after Xmas.
If you can put up ur budget, do that.
Sent from my Hero using XDA App

ddotpatel said:
Alex~ is bang on, it is cheap,and the community on here is great, so if your gona be using custom roms then go for it. But I wouldn't like to say how many devs will still bother with us after Xmas.
If you can put up ur budget, do that.
Sent from my Hero using XDA App
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Tru, there are better phones available if buying new, but it's more than competent if second hand.
I'll be about till May 2011 with my hero anyway, as my contract expires then. And even then, the hero is popular enough to merit continued support i reckin.

Hi I just bought one off eBay about a month old for £150 took a bit time to root and get used to Android, but worth it and its ok for price with lots of features. Although I think I now should have gone for HTC Legend?
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

Not to mention that there is no other Android phone with as cool appearance as that of a black Hero (the european version, not the US Sprint's ugly cousin). I held the Desire in my hands and played with it a bit, but although it was blazingly fast, it didn't strike me as something I'd want.
What I will want next year is a Hero-shaped phone with modern hardware.

Would not recommend ebay.
Three are selling reconditioned £159.99 with £10 credit and can be unlocked from ebay for £6.50. Also £12 cashback if you go through Quidco.
Hope this helps.

Well the community for it is quite huge. Ofc it will slim when others move to newer phones, but I guess there are folks who got a 2 year contract (me being one of them, hehe )

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Not to mention that there is no other Android phone with as cool appearance as that of a black Hero (the european version, not the US Sprint's ugly cousin). I held the Desire in my hands and played with it a bit, but although it was blazingly fast, it didn't strike me as something I'd want.
What I will want next year is a Hero-shaped phone with modern hardware.
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I agree completely, imo the only other phone that looks as good or better than the Hero is the Legend. A Hero-shaped super phone would be amazing
Sent from my HTC Hero using XDA App

they've released the htc wildfire which is very much just a repackaged hero... i have no idea why they did it. it lacks all the style and class of the hero and only has an fm radio to make up for it.

Well if you root your Hero and overclock it, it pretty much becomes a Legend. Without the better screen and slimer profile. I want the Desire but got the HTC Hero this year because it just looked awesome (unfortunately Canadian carriers screw you over with 3 year contracts instead of two ) but I do love my Hero as it is my first smart phone and I love the 'chin'.
It is a matter of preference so the choice in the end is yours, but we do have Feeyo .

The design really stands out yea. People are always like "hey, what kind of phone is that?" while my brother gets none and has a desire
I think there are too many phones who are desire-like look at first look. Hero really stands out

riemervdzee said:
The design really stands out yea. People are always like "hey, what kind of phone is that?" while my brother gets none and has a desire
I think there are too many phones who are desire-like look at first look. Hero really stands out
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I get that a bit. Although the only smartphone that really has any recognition here in NZ is the iPhone. I imported my phone as we don't even have a decent range of Android phones (at reasonable prices). I mean... we JUST got the Nexus One which Google just stopped selling? lol.
But I only recently got my hero (a month ago now?) and i'm happy with my purchase. I mean... there's other purchases that could be had. I almost got a Milestone but the keyboard really put me off (played with my mates', it was a terrible keyboard.. the buttons are so stiff it isn't funny). I mean... I noticed a price drop of the Milestone shortly after I purchased my Hero but.. Eh, I can't complain. Bigger screen/higher res would've been nice though. Specs aren't really much more to write home about though.
Hero was reasonably priced, looks good, performs well enough. My only real annoyances about it are: No official Froyo, smaller screen/lower-resolution than others, can't run some newer games which i probably wouldn't play much anyway.
I'll probably upgrade next year when I have lots of money

[Q] What to get after HD2...

Hi all
I was just wondering if you can share any comments what smartphone have best apps in 2011.
What you will buy after HD2 ?
thanks

This is a question thats on my mind at the minute as well.
The main problem for me is that Ive become so used to the 4.3" screen that I really dont think I could handle using a phone with a screen of less than 4".
Im currently torn between the DHD, Nexus S, Incredible S, Desire S or the Sensation.
Im seriously thinking about waiting until June for the sensation, my concern is the battery though. HTC seem to be pretty lax when it comes to getting optimal battery life from a phone, the sensation with its dual core and new sense (which will probably be even more of a memory hog than the old sense) is going to tear the arse out of any battery.
Theres also the issue of how long its going to take to acheive root / s-off.... (Im very impatient and will not be able to put up with sense for that long, I really dont like the android version for some reason.)
DHD, obviously very similar to the HD2 with a good amount of development going on. However, poor battery life and the age of the device put me off a little. When I upgrade I'm going to have that phone for 18 months so I feel like I should probably go for a evice thats as new as possible.
Nexus, the only thing really putting me off is the fact that its made of nasty looking shiny plastic and doesnt feel as solid as the HD2. Also not a huge selection of custom ROMS for it from what I can see, compared to some devices.
So errr yeah... lol

Well I would recommend you to watch the latest updates at MIX 11 about WP7 Mango update I think you will like it a lot. And now that DFT is bringing Custom SPL to WP7 Source: Twitter (CotullaCode)
I think Android is great, it opens many doors specially for people on XDA, but the thing is. I always think android is missing the experience. It's not fun, and it's just an OS with apps. I will use Android till the end of my contract... And when the time comes I definitely get a WP7 device. Of course an 4.3"(+) screen. Once you get a fridge phone always a fridge phone Personally I'm waiting for Nokia to join the WP7 party, I know Nokia has the best and trustworthy hardware for their phones.

I just took Nexus S, actually looks not bad but screen is noticeably smaller. I did it because I wanted to resell my HD2 while still in warranty and Samsung are offering very good discounts on the SNS in France (it costs less than the Galaxy!). When Sensation comes out and price calms down I'll resell the SNS to get that marvel. Sadly, I'm hugely missing HTC Sense...

seriously even i am kinna confused i i say i want desirehd its been already ported to hd2 & so also nexus...i hope htc comes out dual core hd2...so we can start the fun all over again i know its not possible!
But ATM its just hd2 for me!

I think HTC EVO 3D will be my next phone after HD2 TMOUS

Simple, ....Another HD2

Nimac91 said:
Well I would recommend you to watch the latest updates at MIX 11 about WP7 Mango update I think you will like it a lot. And now that DFT is bringing Custom SPL to WP7 Source: Twitter (CotullaCode)
I think Android is great, it opens many doors specially for people on XDA, but the thing is. I always think android is missing the experience. It's not fun, and it's just an OS with apps. I will use Android till the end of my contract... And when the time comes I definitely get a WP7 device. Of course an 4.3"(+) screen. Once you get a fridge phone always a fridge phone Personally I'm waiting for Nokia to join the WP7 party, I know Nokia has the best and trustworthy hardware for their phones.
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Sadly I totaly disagree with your Nokia statement - they have lost the plot in high end phones over the last couple of years.
The N8 is a software nightmare, as was the 5800 and that range of phones.
Their new mid range phone C7 - C5 have software issues.
This is not just my view I work it Mobile technical support. Nokia are no longer the top manufacturer - they do not rate the top 5 now. Use Google and read the comments from their CEO, he says about the same!
Incredible is my next phone - if my provider supply it

I think that Iphone 4 is superior for the touch screen and for the smoothness of system...Nevertheless I'm waiting for new devices of Htc like Sensation or evo 3d to make a choice...

Samsung Galaxy S 2 anyone?

I've been wondering this too. I just bought an HD2, but of course, the phone is a year old already, and smartphones are now getting 1GB RAM, 16GB internal storage, and dual core processors.
Before long, the HD2 is going to be out of date.
Personally, the most attractive aspect of the HD2 to me is how incredibly hackable it is. If I were to upgrade, I would hope whatever phone I upgrade to would have several OSes available to use too (as opposed to just several derivatives of the same OS).

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Hit the nail on the head there brother!
The HD7 is a minor temptation, but after playing with a Mozart I found that there is no connecting to a hidden network, or as a mass storage device. A shame as everything else is very nice in WP7.
So I am keeping my eye out for hot deals on HD2's
Edit: Forgot about the non-removeable/expandable storage in WP7 (I have 32Gb in my HD2)

probably getting sensation for daily driver but will be saving this HD2 because its superphone over anything, probably ever because of OS possibilities.
If there doesnt come any other better phones than sensation I will be getting it when it releases.

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Samsung Galaxy S 2 anyone?
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this or the htc sensation, im tempted to save the money and buy an s2 with the tegra 2 chip. It seems like tegra 2 will be widely supported and it'll have games optimised for it also it may lead to the phone being cracked faster.

For me there realy isnt any phone that beats HD2 (still). Im a WM6.1 ,WM6.5.x fanboy. the only hing that I miss at HD2 is harwware keyboard. but other then that it still is the perfect phone in my opinion. I never oliked phones that you get bored of quickly. HD2 has alot of development going on xda. you can have numerous OSes running on it. It never gets boring. I probably will not change my phone before there is realy something special (no, galaxy S 2 isnt special enough ).

At the moment I'm still torn between different OS's(ssssss). I've been warming to WinPho 7, but after reading over on Pocket Now about some of the things that might STILL be missing even after the Mango update later this year, I don't think I can wait. http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-7-mango-the-missing-features No smart dialing, no flash support in the browser? What on earth are Microsoft doing?
Having said I can't wait for Microsoft to get their act together, if I could stick a super LCD in my HD2 and a better camera sensor, I would happily keep it for another year or two until quad core chips are out and are selling at reasonable money.
The Sensation will be such a rip-off SIM-free here in the UK this summer I couldn't bring myself to buy one; there'll be much better and more efficient hardware out by the end of '11, beginning '12 ; )

G2x
Stock Android
Tegra Dual Core
4g
Supports a WIDE range of spectrums and supports ATT 3g along with T-Mobile's 4g and 3g
All screen and no keyboard.
It's literally future proof (since ATT will be eating Tmobile soon)

The SGS2 looks better than the Sensation in terms of specs?

[Q] [4 July] [DISC] Is there any phone as sweet as the HD2?

Well my Hermes is getting a little old and I'm shopping for a new phone. The HD2 seems extremely awesome. I love that I could always fall back to WM6.5 if WP7 and Android don't suit me. It seems this phone is also quite common so with a little patience I should be able to find one at a price I want to pay. The only thing that I'm not crazy about it the lack of a hard keyboard. I see that there is a Toshiba K01/IS02 with a hard keyboard that also has a capacitive screen even though it shipped with WM6.5 but it seems to be a rare and undeveloped phone.
Can anyone tell me if there are any other WM6.5/WP7 phones besides the HD2?

I think no atm,

I too was not keen on no hardware keyboard but ended up getting a T-Mob HD2 because the price was right.
All I can say is typing on screen is far faster than any HTC hardware keyboard I have tried & you can use a mini hardware keyboard via BlueTooth if required.
All in all the lack of hardware keyboard was a step forward for my typing experience ...

For the criteria you are asking HD2 is the best. This is the best dual OS phone out there. And I agree with previous post that screen keyboard is way better. My prevois phone was TyTyn II but I think I like sceen keyboard more than hard keyboard. It just takes a little time to get use to typing on the screen. I am really happy with HD2 and I can not think of the better phone for now that does not cost more than 300 euro and have such features. But the choice is yours. Good luck.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA Premium App

Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?

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Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?
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Indeed that was a big mistake from HTC ... The flagship model at the time with no video out ! between that & the selected battery capacity some HTC designers & market researchers should of been shot ...

Well I'm not sure about w7 but the HTC touch pro 2 can run Android & w6.5..(a bit laggy though & very outdated) & also has tv out I believe. It's been sometime since I've owed it so I can't remember. I text (up 2) 4000 texts each month & Im coming from the mytouch slide which has a keyboard....I have 2 say I really dont miss it. I will admit it took me a good few days b4 I could text as fast as any of my old phones that had a keyboard.
Personally I would suggest to buy a phone that has good development that way you won't be left in the dark. Going from the tp2 to the mytouch was horrible bc I had a phone that was well developed & then went 2 a phone that was slim pickins 2 mod it.
Sent from my Desire-HTC HD2 using XDA App

The Desire HD is sort of like an upgraded HD2. I hear that a lot of devs are also working on it.

I was just like the OP, really excited that I could fall back on to WM6.5 if I didn't like Android or WP7. Then I moved to Android and never looked back.
I do admit the HD2 is a beastly device, I can't think of any other device that is nearly as hackable... the HD2 runs WM6.5, WP7 and Android all basically as if those were all natively supported.
Still though, it will soon be 2 whole years since the HD2 was announced. I personally had one for 18 months before buying a Galaxy SII. The HD2 looks pretty modern on paper... 4.3" screen, Snapdragon processor... but next to a truly modern phone like the GSII the HD2 looks clearly dated.
I put WP7 on the HD2 but it's not really my cup of tea. I also tried going back to WM6.5 but after a year with Android I found it laughably slow and clunky. So I may end up selling the HD2, though it would be by far the hardest device I've ever parted with.
I don't really know what to tell the OP. The HD2 is a hell of a phone and can run the newest versions of WP7, but when you set it next to a newer, official WP7 device you will see the differences. If you don't already own an HD2 I'd advise getting a WP7 phone, maybe one with a better screen than the HD2 has got... unless you really have a need to still be running WinMo 6.5.

wildfire dipped in honey+chocolate sauce is sweet !!

Love the hd2. Got it for it's support of tzone grandfathered plans on 3g. Wm6.5 is a joke. I could not believe how amazing the phone was after removing that dead weight of an os.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...

AntonJart said:
I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...
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I'd recommend looking at a Nexus S... a bit plastic, but the Nexus One is long in the tooth now, in terms of hardware.

Wow thanks for all the input today, Guys! I discovered a couple more things today that are going to affect my phone purchase. The first thing is that the T-Mobile branded HD2 does not support the 850 band and I am an AT&T user so not only would I not get 3G on it, but AT&T generally sends me angry emails when I use like a gig of data while "roaming" on T-Mobile's towers.
I doubt I'm going to be able to get an HD2 that does HSDPA850 at a bargain price so I checked out my upgrade options through AT&T. I am considering the following phones which I can get practically free, and here's my thoughts on each from most to least likely to be my next phone.
Samsung Focus - I've played with this phone at the store and it has the nicest looking screen by far of the three AT&T branded WP7 phones. Looks nice (except no video out). Everyone posting ITT has given me some faith in on-capacitive-screen keyboards and I must have had to work on my Hermes a million times because of the slide mechanism damaging, or more often just twisting the ribbon cable. I guess the only doubt that I have in my heart about this phone is that it's a WP7 only phone and I don't believe in WP7 largely because it's not backwards compatible with any of my WM6.5 apps. It boggles my mind that someone asked why I would want WM compatibility after I have spent nine years using it.
HTC Inspire - Seems like a pretty solid Android phone, and one of only two Android phones in the price range I want to pay (although still $50 more than the Focus). Video out only through DLNA
iPhone 3g 8gb - I think we all know everything we need to know about this animal. It's solid, spare parts are plentiful, and it's extensively developed. I just hate Apple. I don't want to have to install iTunes on my computer and so forth. Still may be my choice purely for resale value.
LG Quantum - Ditto most of the Samsung Focus opinion. Noticeably poorer screen (smaller and backlit LCD vs OLED), but does have a hardware keyboard and is the form factor I am accustomed to from the last six years with Wizard and Hermes. I guess Focus or HD2 would just feel like Wallaby in my pocket though.
Samsung Solstice II - Basically what the Quantum is to the Focus, the Solstice is to the Inspire in the Android arena. Smaller, poorer screen in exchange for a slide out keyboard. DLNA compatible though.
Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi - Seem like decent phones but a little too cute for me. Plus I have even greater misgivings about Palm's WebOS than I do about WP7.
Sony Ericcson Vivaz - I carried an Ngage for a while switching back and forth with Wallaby. There seemed to be a lot of development for Symbian back then and it was stable. Probably not the thing to discuss on this forum though..
Anyway, hopefully I'm not derailing my own thread too much or getting it off the topic of the section I posted it in but I appreciate all the replies and would love to hear what everyone thinks. Deciding which phone to get can be a real brain drain! And what's up with hardly anything having video out? My friend's Evo has a freakin' HDMI port right on it!

Whats next....?

Hi, guys. Since arco's post whether there will be CM9 or not, which will be Android 4.0 in all its glare, for our precious and beloved device ive started to think about upgrading my phone to something more, let me say, powerful. To be honest this phone gave its best in a sense of a development and using new stuff which hits every day. We saw some pretty much good stuff on a little fire which none of us expected when first came here. There are at first Cyanogenmod,first 6 and now 7 which led us though great Gingerbread experience till its latest version 2.3.7. In one word CM was the beginner of everything that was happening around here in pas year and little more, than we saw some nice themes and they juiced up our phone a little more to our taste. Than there is better camera recording, overclocking. I should at first say root, but never mind, than came AlpharevX with its s-off. Well, not to make it long, there were a lot of nice moments. And as for me ive learned a lot, so thank to everyone who helped me in any way.
But like any other device out there and this one will come to an end of its development era. So, the question is it time for retirement? What would be your next ride? Im thinking about Sensation or EVO 3D, that is if i collect enough money Anyway, ill still be here for some time. Please, share your thoughts...
Best regards, zexcrazy

I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!
It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.
/End rant on HTC
While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.
On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.

3xeno said:
I am done with HTC, so it will definitely not be one of their devices. (Quality issues abound - Sensation touch problems, Wildfire battery problems, my friend's Desire's display gave up when he didn't do an iota of modification on it, during the first 6 months, and, not to say, the entire locked bootloaders and the leaked info security hole fiasco). Not to mention, their devices are WAY overpriced for what they offer. Even today, in India, the ZTE Blade costs 25% less than the Wildfire! The Incredible S costs the same as an LG Optimus 2X!!
It's only a feel good in your hands with their devices. I agree that Samsung devices don't exude this. My Wildfire feels better in the hand than a mate's SGS1, but still, if it's innards and quality don't match it, the "premium feel" is worthless.
/End rant on HTC
While I loved the new SG Nexus, As far as my opinion goes, the GPU is not worth on it on that device. Using a PowerSGX 540 on a flagship is simply not worth it, and that is when it has a LOT more pixels to push, compared to a WVGA resolution screen, so, my unrealistic dream still remains the SGS2, which, I sincerely hope undergoes a bit of a price cut when the SGN launches.
On to the realistic devices, as I have said time and again, I am impressed with the SE Xperia 2011 lineup. They are simply unbeatable for what they offer. (Again - the Wildfire S is COSTLIER than the SE Xperia Mini which has the latest SnapDragon 1GHz CPU in it), and, with CM supporting the devices, and SE themselves saying that the 2011 lineup WILL get ICS 4.0, my next device is probably going to be one of theirs.
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You are right about everything you said, but Wildfire is my first andrid device and im somehow sentimentally bounded to HTC, but well you never know where the road can take me. I though about SGS, as a cheaper solution (price is a important asspet in my case, for now). One thing is sure im not going to take LG as i had few bad experiences with them in past.
And you are right about SGN, they made few poor moves with graphic chip and 5mp camera, but i recon Samsung is saving its strenght for SGS III.

I get what you are saying, and, even I would definitely like my next device to be an HTC (More so, because companies like Samsung and LG, they are essentially consumer goods entities - the air conditioners at my college are by Samsung, the refrigerator at my place is by LG, and so on, and, this fact is what comes first to mind when you say companies like Samsung and LG, but, HTC is just that - a 'specialist' smartphone manufacturer), but, I am somehow forcing myself to see beyond their brand value and look at better alternatives for the same price. (As you put - Price comes first)

I will definetly stay with the Wildfire for a couple of months more. Now i have the new stable Version and everything runs smooth and fast. I don't need faster devices, i like it how it is right now. Maybe i will buy some new in the future if there is enough money, but i havent thought about it yet.

There will be CM9 for the Wildfire.
I'm an optimist.
If not... I will probably buy the G2X or Sensation. G2X more likely for the price. Or a Nexus S? Who knows, I'll discuss that with my wallet.
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I get my up grade December. So I was thinking sensation or gs2 but not sure witch 1 to go for been looking at both now for the last month
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My contract ends in 2 years, hopefully optus lets me upgrade before then lol (or else I'll threaten them :L), I have no idea what phones will be out by then but I think I'll stick with samsung, there phones are so much fun lol, or maybe htc if they release anything good
If I still had my wildfire I prob would've upgraded to the sgs2.
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My bro is upgrading his phone soon to sgs2, think ill take over his sgi9000 for cheap or even free if you read this, brotherly love. lol I'll give it the life it should be having flash flash and more flashing.......
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I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.
LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W
Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.

I agree the Wildfire and its successor are great My First Androids, but my next phone will likely be a Samsung too even if that would mean it's the same brand as my microwave oven. However, at the moment I'd rather buy a Motorola Xoom and "degrade" my Wildfire to "just a phone" for the time being. Xoom + extra battery for Wildfire (gotta keep that access point running) is cheaper then buying the Galaxy Nexus plus when an ICS phone hits the stores I can still extend my current plan for 2 years to get it.

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I have my eyes on a few phones atm. Can't afford any high-end phones, so are looking for something in the mid-range. First idea was to maybe get a Wildfire S, since it should be pretty easy to do developing on. But seeing as the bootloader is still locked and you can get a much more powerful phone for just a little bit more money, I'm looking at some other options. 3 phones are currently on my list.
LG P970 Optimus Black
Huawei Vision U8850
Samsung I8150 Galaxy W
Of these, I'm leaning most towards the Samsung right now.
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Please stick with the Wildfire, there has to be a way to port effin ICS.
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Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.

Galaxy W is pretty decent upgrade and as for me it much more reachable than some of the flagship devices i am dreaming of.
Ill stick to a Wildfire for some time, but the day will come sooner or later.
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Not likely. ICS requires at least a dual-core ARMv7 CPU. You could get away with a single-core ARMv7 but a single-core ARMv6 is stretching it quite a bit I'm afraid.
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I wouldnt agree. They said that ics will be able to run on any device whic was able to run Gingerbread. So if we take official gingerbred suported phones there is Wildfire S which has 600Mhz processor. So its not true that it requires dual core.
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I reckon the wildfire has about 6 to 12 months more left in it. Oath it has been where no one thought it would go. First got the official support from HTC (finally!). Everyone really wanted it and foolishly upgraded changing the bootloader/hboot. That is where I went, I foolishly upgraded then met xda. Seeing so many things happen and I really wanted a custom rom. It started with the urge of really wanting live wallpapers then it grew from there. Waiting for a software s-off, I stood optimistic that one was "coming" even though so many said it wouldn't happen and that the only way would be to use the hardware tool XTC clip. Waiting for so long I managed to get my hands on AlphaRevX. My phone being a locked phone on telstra it was loaded with the custom carrier hboot 02 instead of 01. Alpharev refused to work on these custom hboots so I stood on freenode until a dev came online and managed to hack up a telstra s-off hboot for me to test. I managed to get my s-off with it but by then alpharev team dropped support of hboot 02 because they would have to hack every hboot for different carriers. I soon began to flash roms and read up on all the nice roms. I tried CM7 but hated it because of the interface, I managed to fall in love with the sense interface and couldn't get away from it. I found the sense 2.1 rom and waited for it to get more stable but it was discontinued so I took over. I built my knowledge and now I am working on the rom SenseOnFire. So thats my story. I think the wildfire isn't its time yet and there are so many fantastic devs around here that don't and won't give up on this device just yet. The CM team will be able to hack up something for this device I just know it. Just think before the wildfire got official froyo no one would of thought it would ever run gingerbread.

I`ll upgrade in about an year or so, but I won`t buy a phone with a screen larger than 3.5 inches. Maybe a 3.7 of the bezel is small enough. I don`t like ping-pong paddle type of phones.
500th post, yay

I like big screens. 4 inch would be ideal for me.
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Gingerbread will probably run on a T-Mobile G1. Google never said "any", they said "most". The Wildfire also lacks a GPU so ICS on a Wildfire wouldn't look the same as ICS on a Nexus either.
And I agree with Alex_GP, overly large form factors are a modern reminder of those old clunky phones from 2 decades ago. The Desire S seems nice in this regard, a little bit thinner and a little bit less wide but also just a bit taller to accommodate an HVGA(!) screen. But then it has that annoying capacitive search button which always fires at the wrong moment when held in a right hand. So I guess I'll wait for an updated version of the Samsung Galaxy Ace and hope it's not as slow/fast as an overclocked Wildfire.

I think I'm going for the HTC Sensation XE.
Since I got the Wildfire, I realized that pixels ARE important (atleast for me) so qHD will be perfect for me.
4,3 inch is also perfect. Not too big, or too small. (my bro has desire HD so I kind of know how big it is).
The XE is just a beautiful beast
And luckily HTC said that it'll get ICS.
I'm not sure when I'll upgrade, but I guess soon. Maybe next week or something..
Can't stand the ldpi thing and the slow performance..
But will keep my Wildfire as a backup device.
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