How to make a great tablet worthless?... Update to ICS! - Eee Pad Transformer General

I couldn't believe it when I bought my TF101 on Black Friday for $250. What a steal! It was wonderful; totally reliable. I couldn't wait until ICS came out ; silly me. My TF101 has been completely unreliable since. Just like many others ; if I turn it off for more than a few minutes it either won't turn on or it reboots. I can no longer recommend the TF101 until Asus gets this resolved. I believe Asus will resolve this, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting concerned about the long time frame.
Please Asus, us loyal users need a fix soon, or at least a definitive status update.
Trying to be patient,
Dean

Install wake lock. It makes the tablet 100% reliable again, at the cost of slightly worse battery life. I'm living with it just fine until Asus release the fix they promised. A transformer with ICS+Wakelock is still x10 times better than a transformer with HC, IMHO.

DeanONH said:
I couldn't believe it when I bought my TF101 on Black Friday for $250. What a steal! It was wonderful; totally reliable. I couldn't wait until ICS came out ; silly me. My TF101 has been completely unreliable since. Just like many others ; if I turn it off for more than a few minutes it either won't turn on or it reboots. I can no longer recommend the TF101 until Asus gets this resolved. I believe Asus will resolve this, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting concerned about the long time frame.
Please Asus, us loyal users need a fix soon, or at least a definitive status update.
Trying to be patient,
Dean
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personally i'm quite happy with tf+ics."Just like many others ; if I turn it off for more than a few minutes it either won't turn on or it reboots"---i haven't got this problem,with an aosp rom+oc kernel i have all what i need.my fortune is also that i don't suffer the kernels SOD\random reboots that mostly users reports.

everyone says wake lock makes battery life worse.
But is ICS + Wake Lock worse than ICS
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is ICS + Wake Lock also worse than HC?

Root the thing and revert to HC.
This is not a place to come and freakin whine. If you aren't rooted then root. Read.
Complain somewhere else. This is not an asus site.
I have no issues with my tablet.....None.

tweaked said:
Root the thing and revert to HC.
This is not a place to come and freakin whine. If you aren't rooted then root. Read.
Complain somewhere else. This is not an asus site.
I have no issues with my tablet.....None.
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If instead of using your precious time to attack people, you answered my legitimate question about battery power, you would earn some goodwill and appreciation for yourself instead of being called a douche.

TF 101 - Reliability
DeanONH said:
I couldn't believe it when I bought my TF101 on Black Friday for $250. What a steal! It was wonderful; totally reliable. I couldn't wait until ICS came out ; silly me. My TF101 has been completely unreliable since. Just like many others ; if I turn it off for more than a few minutes it either won't turn on or it reboots. I can no longer recommend the TF101 until Asus gets this resolved. I believe Asus will resolve this, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting concerned about the long time frame.
Please Asus, us loyal users need a fix soon, or at least a definitive status update.
Trying to be patient,
Dean
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I am afraid that I must disagree with you about the transformer being unreliable. It may be that you would care to try rooting the device and installing a custom rom and kernel.
I have a TF101, B70. I rooted the device and have used a variety of ROMs, the latest being revolver 4 beta. I have also installed the test13 kernel by guever. For me this setup is perfect. I have had no SOD's or RR since I Installed the above. All is running incredibly smoothly, and reliably.
Perhaps you could try the setup which I have found to be so reliable and let us know if it has improved?

klau1 said:
If instead of using your precious time to attack people, you answered my legitimate question about battery power, you would earn some goodwill and appreciation for yourself instead of being called a douche.
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Dear SIr, the only attack in this thread is from you. Name calling is against the rules here.
Reported.
I don;t want your goodwill. I want you to search, read, and then only ask a question if the issue isnt covered. This place is for the devs, not for complaining
And reverting after a root is a legitimate fix. It was fine before ICS, it will be fine reverting.
FYI, my original post was not directed at you. See this thread is owned by the OP. I was replying to him. hence why your post was not quoted. I didn't even originally read your post. I do not have an answer for your question as its a subjective question. No one can answer what is better for you. Because You are an individual and one mans trash is another mans treasure. Try it and find out. It takes minutes to install an app an then try it out.....Talk about wasting time.....

I have no rebooting nor battery draining issue ever since updated to latest ICS build, not even any force close so far. It's been awesome experience apart of the unroot-able.. but this will surely surface the near future...
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farsight73 said:
I have no rebooting nor battery draining issue ever since updated to latest ICS build, not even any force close so far. It's been awesome experience apart of the unroot-able.. but this will surely surface the near future...
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Like u read my mind , I have 101G

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ASUS confirms Transformer power fix incoming

http://androidcommunity.com/asus-confirms-eee-pad-transformer-power-fix-incoming-20110713/
Wonderful news! Still I don't see how this bug was missed. It was one of the first things I noticed when playing with it on the first day I bought it... and it's so widespread... did they not even play around with them first?
This is GREAT news! I was going to send my dock for RMA today! Guess I will wait a little more. If anyone has more news don't hesitate to post: timelines, firmware or hardware fix...
Joël.
So this means that it not the dock itself so people can stop trying to find b60s
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Me too. I have the RMA package all wrapped up to go. Now I'll wait and see.
This reinforces the value of forums like XDA. Sufficient data has been presented in various threads here to assist ASUS in narrowing down the issue and hopefully fix it. In addition the pressure from members kept the issue in their sights. Hopefully the fix will improve the overall experience and not just fix one issue at the expense of creating another.
w00t!
Hopefully its just a firmware update.
Has this been released yet?
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Has this been released yet?
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No
10 char
I haven't noticed any power/draining problems personally. In fact, I am amazed at the battery life of the tab while docked. But glad that a fix is in the works for those that need it.
Dorkington said:
w00t!
Hopefully its just a firmware update.
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i believe the article mentions it as a firmware update, but we'll have to see...that and other possible fixes on the horizon in 3.2 are just what is needed in a prod introduction. Sure there's bugs but it only becomes an issue if you don't address them.
teegunn said:
I haven't noticed any power/draining problems personally. In fact, I am amazed at the battery life of the tab while docked. But glad that a fix is in the works for those that need it.
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I get excellent battery life if I put my ÁT in airplane mode when I'm done. I don't mind waiting 15 seconds for a few emails to download when I take it out of airplane mode.
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Hopefully its just a firmware update.
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My dock has already been shipped off for RMA, but I also hope that at least a portion of the issue may be correctable via firmware update. However, there are several reports in this thread (specifically here and here) that indicate that a hardware fix may be required.
In the main thread on dock battery drain, many with the B60 docks are reporting much small drain during standby and power off. So Asus is likely doing something different to the is newest batch of docks, and that means they have a 'fix' already.
So what are they waiting? Unless whatever they did to the B60 batch is hardware, and they need to figure out a software fix to patch the problem in older docks...
The fix is probably rolled into the 3.2 update.
kaylord84 said:
So this means that it not the dock itself so people can stop trying to find b60s
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I wouldn't assume too soon. I got a B60 dock 2 days ago. I also have had a B50 for about 2 weeks. There are noticable battery usage differences between the two in regular use, standy and when the tablet is turned off.
When I assume I make an a.....well you know
Lets wait and see what Asus says and does...
"We will shortly be announcing details on how this will be resolved for our customers."
If it was just a firmware update, they'd probably have said so. As in "We will shortly be releasing firmware to resolve this for our customers."
The only reason I can see for phrasing it in this manner is because they're expecting a hardware update -- which means "details" will be needed to tell customers in each market how to return their docks, what the expected turnaround time is, who pays for shipping, which serial number ranges are included, etc.
I hope I'm wrong, but I deal with decoding public relations-speke every day, and this doesn't read like a simple firmware update to me.
Dorkington said:
w00t!
Hopefully its just a firmware update.
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Yep, same here! Got my dock from TD...
can anyone confirm if last minor 3.1 update fixed that?
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It does not, from what I see in other posts

Did Acer kill the Iconia?

It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
First, wrong section; you should know better by now.
Second, just because Acer have made it a bugger to root, doesn't mean the tablet is dead. It's absolutely useable without being rooted, and 99% of consumers don't actually give a monkeys about rooting, or even know what it actually is.
Hell, we get plenty of people on here asking what it is or what it's for...
New iconia is scheduled for Dec release but may get pushed back to january.
Interesting, you are posing that on XDA. We dont believe in Impossible to Root device. That is why people come to XDA; How to break what seem unbreakable or unlock what seem unlock-able. Just give some time, some genius will always find a way to kick some Corporate teeth in.
well wasnt it acer excuse not unlock the bootloader since honeycomb was not open source. I think that was one of their statements, so once we get updated to ICS maybe we all can start with a tweet assault on them again.
Not sure about u guys but I feel more comfortable recommending the xoom or asus tab just cause they are so open, same goes for those nook colors.
Vintage144 said:
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
Seriously? Near impossible to root? This guy must be slow, because this was just insanely easy... been rooted for months and tried nearly every rom at least once, all easy as pie.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
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Same thing with the original mytouch. I had to use a gold card and there were no less than 3 times during the process that i thought i had bricked it. i may be permanently scarred.
There have been many times i have rooted other devices including the iconia that i went searching for more steps because it was too easy.
ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
ne too lol i was like...all i did was install an app, go to recovery, and flash rom ( give or take a few steps) and i did that the day i got it (sept 2011) and it took a few a mins, this thread confused the heck outta me lol
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ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
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Cactus42 said:
You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
lanisan said:
Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
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A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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BrianDigital said:
When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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When you learn to find it and come and post it here? It's pretty well documented, and other than the crap threads that get posted in here like this one, pretty well organized.
tumpy said:
A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1136 right here it is 3hreadsown from this one. Giggles even a blonde can find it
This is inbwrong thread sorry for my post all
I rooted my tablet right after I got it in May. Then when the 3.2 update came out, I went back to stock unrooted and ran that way until this morning when I realized I wanted to change my navigation buttons. Downgraded, rooted, installed CWM and flashed the rooted stock 3.2 and was back in business in like 20 minutes maybe. Would've been done quicker, but I had to pause to make some more coffee. Didn't even lose any of my data or apps. I don't know how you measure easy, but by my measure, its a cake walk. A cake walk where you actually win cake, instead of awkwardly shuffling around in a circle with strangers thinking that if you win it might all be worth it, only to have some snot nosed little turd walk away with the very cake you wanted, and you go home and weep gently into your pillow because you never win, and no one ever seems to see that all you want is to be loved, oh God, why can't someone just love you...sorry I digress.
lol i rooted mine like the first 15 minutes that it was out of the box. I don't like not overclocking
Vintage144 said:
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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And this thread belongs in the DEV area.
Mods must be on Thanksgiving break already
Back to the OT! Did Acer Kill the Iconia?
Here it is.... Plain and simple.... Acer is killing the the Iconia since they are taking their time to produce good accessories for it. Also, what were they thinking in giving the power adapter such a short cord?
Other than that.... I love my A500, and would not mind upgrading to a the Tegra3 version.

[Discussion] [WIP] ICS Port

This is discussion thread for PaulBurton's ICS 4.0.x Port.
This is a Discussion Thread About the DEV Thread:WIP ICS PORT
Before We start to discuss i will tell what's working in the latest release *20120201*
Even tough the build is still in Alpha/Beta stage the build is extremely fast, even if all HW/3D Acceleration isn't activated also the driver's for the Tegra2 Isn't fully working! but still the build answer's fast and do the most things you tell it to do!
*Working* (Updated 2012-02-11)
Touchscreen
Sound
Wifi
Bluetooth
Deep Sleep
Headset
GPS On Location
GAPP'S
SU *Fixed*
Battery Indicator*
HDMI Out
Dock Station*
*Doesn't Work*
Rotation*
Microphone*
Camera
Full 3D*
Full HW*
Video Playback
*Latest Build -Battery Indicator-* Partitionaly working*
There you go atleast this is what i know what works and what doesn't!
Even if THOOSE Stuffs Doesn't Work, What can you say about the work so far?
IS it good, Bad, Amazing, or what is your expression!?
Please Hit The Thank's Button On Hes Port Project, as he's mostly doing this Alone and he also do it with much more closed source's!
Earlier Releases
20120201 - NvFlash or CWM
Suspend improvements, now uses LP0, but still likes waking itself up
Backlight fixed
Storage settings no longer crashes
USB device improvements, MTP indicator etc
USB drives & micro SD cards mount, images visible in gallery etc.
CWM update zip now just writes everything as a blob, should avoid all previous zip-related problems
Graphics drivers updated to those from nVidia’s ventana devkit ICS release
Includes Google apps
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20120121 - NvFlash or CWM
Suspend improvements (still needs work)
Headphones should work properly
Improve CWM update zip to cope with mounted /data
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20120112 - NvFlash or CWM CWM, CWM mirror
Initial audio support (still needs work)
Bluetooth working
WiFi MAC address fixed
Rooted
USB fixes
Include a CWM update zip version (be careful, remember only use if you can flash back honeycomb)
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20120110
Using a 2.6.39 kernel
Orientation defaulting to landscape
RAM size fixed
Hopefully fix suspend
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20120106
Fixed WiFi
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20120105
Initial build
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I think the battery indicator has a glitch that *Detection* has a temporary fix for. However, even partly broken, the ROM is fantastic. I would like to use it as a daily. I'm just not going to jump the gun on it. I'd like to see a little more in the configurable option department, like a reboot to recovery option in the shutdown menu. Removing the Phone.apk and Telephony.apk also. No real need for them as we stand. That's my 2 pennies so far. But, Paul has really gotten far for such a short time, and I'm excited to see where he takes it.
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Sharpe351 said:
I think the battery indicator has a glitch that *Detection* has a temporary fix for. However, even partly broken, the ROM is fantastic. I would like to use it as a daily. I'm just not going to jump the gun on it. I'd like to see a little more in the configurable option department, like a reboot to recovery option in the shutdown menu. Removing the Phone.apk and Telephony.apk also. No real need for them as we stand. That's my 2 pennies so far. But, Paul has really gotten far for such a short time, and I'm excited to see where he takes it.
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i can sure do indeed , we can use it for daily use, but thats not the best to do atm, but he sure works fast for being alone
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Do you think it would be safe for a late model B70 sbk2? I've seen the warnings but i really wanna try it. Caution vs curiosity. I know it's a stupid risk to take with the official ICS just around the corner. What do you guys think?
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Do you think it would be safe for a late model B70 sbk2? I've seen the warnings but i really wanna try it. Caution vs curiosity. I know it's a stupid risk to take with the official ICS just around the corner. What do you guys think?
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well, if you got a backup you can try the ics , as it can be done for daily use, but its not recomened. if you want to try make sure you got a working backup, also if you restore honeycomb after tested ics, you need to flash a HC kernel
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Dreamboxuser said:
Do you think it would be safe for a late model B70 sbk2? I've seen the warnings but i really wanna try it. Caution vs curiosity. I know it's a stupid risk to take with the official ICS just around the corner. What do you guys think?
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Risky considering you have no nvflash recovery should anything go wrong.
If you find you have no root / access to CWM you would be basically screwed.
I would listen to your sensible you this time and wait, yes it is bad having to wait, but worse if you brick your tablet.
ICS is nice, fast, but that soon fades with the current suspend / wifi bugs, I would advise waiting
Agreed. I've been in plenty of situations where CWM has saved me and always restored without a problem. It's just a shame i am not able to see the progress as it is happening and I can't be one of those people in the dev thread saying any updates?
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Agreed. I've been in plenty of situations where CWM has saved me and always restored without a problem. It's just a shame i am not able to see the progress as it is happening and I can't be one of those people in the dev thread saying any updates?
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The main thing is the kernal. Paul uses a different kernal to get ICS to function more smoothly. In the realm of sbk2, my main concern would be that NVflash doesn't work... and if something goes wrong, you are left with a really expensive coaster. With the rate that Paul has put out updates, it should be no time until we see a daily out of this.
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Oh well at least my concerns were justified. Although i would like to add
Any updates?????
i wanna play too.
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Oh well at least my concerns were justified. Although i would like to add
Any updates?????
i wanna play too.
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Asking for updates is like asking for an eta..don't do that. These guys are doing this on their own time, it is disrespectful to be impatient.
And fyi guys, i have a B70 if it roots with razor claw and can install cwm, and as long as you don't flash over your recovery you should be able to rescue any bad rom/kernel flash. I guess if my recovery went screwy i would be SOL but so far I've not had a problem. Be patient, and check and double check every step.
Did you wipe dalvik? Factory reset? Better make sure before you flash that rom and do an md5 before you flash any recovery to be sure it didn't corrupt in the meantime..if you are really careful, patient, and read a lot, and i mean A LOT, before you flash you can get away with flashing an sbk2 safely. If on the other hand, you've never flashed anything before, and don't know EXACTLY what you are doing, then i wouldn't risk it.
Paul's ICS is great progress, but unfortunately far from being just a novelty due to the bugginess and loss of functions. I played with it for about 5 minutes before I decided it wasn't ready for prime time and went back to revolver
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Sharpe351 said:
The main thing is the kernal. Paul uses a different kernal to get ICS to function more smoothly. In the realm of sbk2, my main concern would be that NVflash doesn't work... and if something goes wrong, you are left with a really expensive coaster. With the rate that Paul has put out updates, it should be no time until we see a daily out of this.
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Btw it's kernel with an "e"
luna_c666 said:
Asking for updates is like asking for an eta..don't do that. These guys are doing this on their own time, it is disrespectful to be impatient.
And fyi guys, i have a B70 if it roots with razor claw and can install cwm, and as long as you don't flash over your recovery you should be able to rescue any bad rom/kernel flash. I guess if my recovery went screwy i would be SOL but so far I've not had a problem. Be patient, and check and double check every step.
Did you wipe dalvik? Factory reset? Better make sure before you flash that rom and do an md5 before you flash any recovery to be sure it didn't corrupt in the meantime..if you are really careful, patient, and read a lot, and i mean A LOT, before you flash you can get away with flashing an sbk2 safely. If on the other hand, you've never flashed anything before, and don't know EXACTLY what you are doing, then i wouldn't risk it.
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Btw it's kernel with an "e"
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Ok luna... with an "e". lol...
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Oh well at least my concerns were justified. Although i would like to add
Any updates?????
i wanna play too.
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read second post or go to dev thread it should be no problem flash this for me (it's not for me) and i got a Sbkv2 and i can always restore to HC!
luna_c666 said:
Asking for updates is like asking for an eta..don't do that. These guys are doing this on their own time, it is disrespectful to be impatient.
And fyi guys, i have a B70 if it roots with razor claw and can install cwm, and as long as you don't flash over your recovery you should be able to rescue any bad rom/kernel flash. I guess if my recovery went screwy i would be SOL but so far I've not had a problem. Be patient, and check and double check every step.
Did you wipe dalvik? Factory reset? Better make sure before you flash that rom and do an md5 before you flash any recovery to be sure it didn't corrupt in the meantime..if you are really careful, patient, and read a lot, and i mean A LOT, before you flash you can get away with flashing an sbk2 safely. If on the other hand, you've never flashed anything before, and don't know EXACTLY what you are doing, then i wouldn't risk it.
Paul's ICS is great progress, but unfortunately far from being just a novelty due to the bugginess and loss of functions. I played with it for about 5 minutes before I decided it wasn't ready for prime time and went back to revolver
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Btw it's kernel with an "e"
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about asking for ETA doesn't meen your disrespectall ful, look at all the ICS questions that asus got, its not disrespectful, you ask's for something that is good to know when you can be able to prepare to leave Honeycomb and go to ICS. but in this case Paul is almost alone working on this. and i can see that asking ETA when he does this on freetime will make it much more harder to set a date! SO asking ETA Isn't Mean. you really show that something is wanted and can give the OP both glad and angry moment's......
Anyhow. The Work goes amazingly fast forward, i wish i had his schills
LastStandingDroid said:
about asking for ETA doesn't meen your disrespectall ful, look at all the ICS questions that asus got, its not disrespectful, you ask's for something that is good to know when you can be able to prepare to leave Honeycomb and go to ICS. but in this case Paul is almost alone working on this. and i can see that asking ETA when he does this on freetime will make it much more harder to set a date! SO asking ETA Isn't Mean. you really show that something is wanted and can give the OP both glad and angry moment's......
Anyhow. The Work goes amazingly fast forward, i wish i had his schills
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You do realize asking Asus for an eta, when they are a company selling a product, and asking developers who are working for free in their own time, are not the same thing right?
Read the rules. It says pretty explicitly.. Do not ask for eta's.
Well the ETA thing was a joke simply because every third post in the dev thread is got an ETA. Don't let the lack of posts fool you I have been around the block a few times. Also if I hadn't been reading I wouldn't have known that it was not recommend to install on sbk2 devices.
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luna_c666 said:
You do realize asking Asus for an eta, when they are a company selling a product, and asking developers who are working for free in their own time, are not the same thing right?
Read the rules. It says pretty explicitly.. Do not ask for eta's.
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Help me out..... where does it say no etas? Serious question.... thnx
I think what the last post referred to is when you pay for a service it's ok to ask them(ASUS) for an ETA but when devs here (Xda) do it for nothing more than street cred, fun, or cause they want to it is not cool to ask for an ETA.
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Help me out..... where does it say no etas? Serious question.... thnx
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Ok, it isn't as explicit as I thought, but it has been pounded into my head because it's been repeated so many times over and over..
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376759
And Here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081035
OBKING77's video cites it here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzpixaIOwSg
This part IS in the guide (though not in the rules);
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
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I've just read it so many times it's become a 'rule' in my head. Sorry I was not accurate when stating it was 'explicit in the rules'. But it is a matter of respect for the devs
I wonder if we could do a tally and see how many posts on xda are actually people asking for updates or etas? Probably be in the thousands if not more.
Anyways back on topic.... sorry about that i thought that the implication that it was a joke was pretty clear in the previous message.
So i do think i will try ICS out after i do my backups. I suppose as a trial it will be good.

Still no WW update?

I'm in Thailand and still don't get the latest update.
Does anywhere except US get this update?
It seems they've halted the rollout. I'm located in Norway and have the WW version ICS. No updates here either.
considering the responses so far it maybe that Asus have pulled the update and are working on a better fix. they have done this before.
still waiting here in the UK.
The update didn't fix the main problem, its good they waited.
I sent them a RAMDUMP.txt from /sdcard I found on my TF showing kernel errors etc, not sure if it would have helped, but maybe check to see if you have one too and email them it
I'm so pissed off that I've just switched my TF101 off and stopped using it. If only I could get a full refund, I would take back and get a tablet from a company named after a popular fruit. I hate ASUS now and will discourage anybody from buying their crap quality products !!!
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I'm so pissed off that I've just switched my TF101 off and stopped using it. If only I could get a full refund, I would take back and get a tablet from a company named after a popular fruit. I hate ASUS now and will discourage anybody from buying their crap quality products !!!
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Don't hold back tell us how you really feel.......and......
Goodbye.....
Nothing here in Canada
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I'd rather wait until they get it right. I've just had a go of the new iPad and tbh I wouldn't be trading an ipad 2 in to get one if ya catch my drift.
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I'm so pissed off that I've just switched my TF101 off and stopped using it. If only I could get a full refund, I would take back and get a tablet from a company named after a popular fruit. I hate ASUS now and will discourage anybody from buying their crap quality products !!!
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So the borked ICS update makes Asus a crap quality product maker?
If you're not happy with the ICS update, it's possible to rollback to HC.
If you weren't happy with the product before the ICS update, then I'm afraid no one can help you here. Better buy another product and switch forum.
*Insert witty "don't let the door hit you on the way out"-quote here*
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I'm so pissed off that I've just switched my TF101 off and stopped using it. If only I could get a full refund, I would take back and get a tablet from a company named after a popular fruit. I hate ASUS now and will discourage anybody from buying their crap quality products !!!
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LOL.. rant...
No DE update either, just talked to the support concerning the random reboots/lockups and they told me there is no date for an update. The only tip was to perform a factory reset and if that doesnt help to RMA it ...
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No update (patch) in NZ either. Kind of glad they pulled the patched version rather than get my hopes up.
I believe the only major thing ASUS did wrong was not append the word Beta to the original ICS upgrade. If people knowingly install a beta version then they expect it to be a work in progress. Microsoft do it, so do Apple etc.
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considering the responses so far it maybe that Asus have pulled the update and are working on a better fix. they have done this before.
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I don't think so. I received the update notification today for the US version and installed it.
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I don't think so. I received the update notification today for the US version and installed it.
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Asus rolled out the US version only... see it like they use you guys as guinea pigs...
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Asus rolled out the US version only... see it like they use you guys as guinea pigs...
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LOL . The .17 update seems to run faster and is more responsive, but i just got my first reboot only hours after updating. So they may have fixed some minor bugs, but the reboot issue is still there. I was in root explorer and let my tablet sit idle until it fell asleep. Not too long after it fell asleep, it rebooted and stuck on the Asus screen. I had my TF docked.
Just got the update for the WW version !
Same here, also just got the notification. extracting the dlpkgfile soon.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23725845&postcount=674
Just got the TW version!
Probably the DE version is out too.
Just recevieved the ww update.

Decision point on HC downgrade .

Feels like most of us are sufficiently fed up with ICS fiasco.
Some of us are lucky enough to have NVFlashable TF101s.
I am feeling like calling it quits and downgrading to HC, following
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
The latest upgrade from ASUS didn't address the reboots, SODs & other issues.
I want to return to what I had just a few short weeks ago: a rock solid, pleasure-to-use tablet I could rely on 100% of the time, not the ICS cripple.
To ze barricades ?
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Feels like most of us are sufficiently fed up with ICS fiasco.
Some of us are lucky enough to have NVFlashable TF101s.
I am feeling like calling it quits and downgrading to HC, following
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
The latest upgrade from ASUS didn't address the reboots, SODs & other issues.
I want to return to what I had just a few short weeks ago: a rock solid, pleasure-to-use tablet I could rely on 100% of the time, not the ICS cripple.
To ze barricades ?
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I honestly think you need to stop whining about the Asus firmware and how ****ty ICS is and give AOKP or Team EOS ICS a try. It will change your perspective entirely, because they actually just work - very well in fact.
If there is one most important thing I've learned about Android, its this: hardware manufacturers can't write software for ****. The AOSP versions of Android simply blow everything else out of the water in terms of reliability, stability, and performance. Give it a shot. You won't be disappointed, I promise. Make sure you WIPE your tablet first, and perform a backup before starting, obviouisly.
rashid11 said:
Feels like most of us are sufficiently fed up with ICS fiasco.
Some of us are lucky enough to have NVFlashable TF101s.
I am feeling like calling it quits and downgrading to HC, following
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
The latest upgrade from ASUS didn't address the reboots, SODs & other issues.
I want to return to what I had just a few short weeks ago: a rock solid, pleasure-to-use tablet I could rely on 100% of the time, not the ICS cripple.
To ze barricades ?
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No more upgrades for me unless Asus makes an advance announcement and provides a list of changes, improvements and what nots. Seems like we're being kept in the dark without so much as a hint of things to come. This lack of communication is not only frustrating, it's an attempt at improvement that for some of us creates a major setback.
Is there an Asus website that gathers problem cases from users and corresponding solutions that work? Would be nice if we can all just look up a problem and be directed at the right person/place for help.
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I honestly think you need to stop whining about the Asus firmware and how ****ty ICS is and give AOKP or Team EOS ICS a try. It will change your perspective entirely, because they actually just work - very well in fact.
If there is one most important thing I've learned about Android, its this: hardware manufacturers can't write software for ****. The AOSP versions of Android simply blow everything else out of the water in terms of reliability, stability, and performance. Give it a shot. You won't be disappointed, I promise. Make sure you WIPE your tablet first, and perform a backup before starting, obviouisly.
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No, really, Asus needs to fix ICS!!! We shouldn't have to go around trying tons of different ROMS to get something stable. We need to keep complaining to Asus!
That's like saying if the engine in your new car is having problems, don't complain to the automaker - just put another engine it! That's BS...
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jtrosky said:
That's like saying if the engine in your new car is having problems, don't complain to the automaker - just put another engine it!
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This.
Moreover, last time I took a cursory glance at third-party AOSP builds they were all signed with the infamous AOSP testkey or built with ro.secure set to 0.
Sorry, but the security tradeoff far outweighs the (supposed) benefits.
There's a difference between free software and expensive engines..
And I will once again say, like I did in all other ICS complaint threads (stop making them..), my tablet works fine as intended. ICS is a huge relief from the (now terrible) Honeycomb interface and bad performance. Sure I have a reboot once in 14 or 15 hours, but is it a problem? No, because it happens either during the day or when it's in my backpack and never really during using it.
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... like I did in all other ICS complaint threads (stop making them..)
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Hey didn't we go to different schools together? I think I have seen this before in maybe 15 other threads.
OP if there is something useful with your post, please make it so, otherwise this thread will go no where, just like all the others.
No_u said:
There's a difference between free software and expensive engines..
And I will once again say, like I did in all other ICS complaint threads (stop making them..), my tablet works fine as intended. ICS is a huge relief from the (now terrible) Honeycomb interface and bad performance. Sure I have a reboot once in 14 or 15 hours, but is it a problem? No, because it happens either during the day or when it's in my backpack and never really during using it.
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Hmm, excuse me, but I PAID for my Transformer - regardless if Android is free or not, I bought a products that was supposed to work properly. Right now, it doesn't.
I'm glad you are not having issues, but you are in the minority!! So just because you don't have issues, we should be happy?? Give me a break...
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Hmm, excuse me, but I PAID for my Transformer - regardless if Android is free or not, I bought a products that was supposed to work properly. Right now, it doesn't.
I'm glad you are not having issues, but you are in the minority!! So just because you don't have issues, we should be happy?? Give me a break...
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I agree with Jtrosky. You guys should be pissed as Hell. You should complain until your voice is raw and you get what you expect.
I only disagree with your coming to XDA to do it.
We are a modding community. One that is built for the devs, and only the Devs. Devs, who, I am sure, don't care that you have an issue with your device.
This isn't an ASUS forum. Complain to ASUS
This is forum clutter and needs to be closed and removed.
Alright I give up then. If you guys aren't willing to try an option that actually works, is free, and is EASY - fine. I was trying to be helpful and suggest a path that does work, but apparently you guys would rather just complain instead of actually doing something about it.
BTW, you realize that Asus has their own forums for supporting Transformer Tablets. If you really want to whine to them about their ****ty firmware, that is the appropriate place.
To answer your question, yes, downgrade to Honeycomb if you want. It's not going to kill you to not be on ICS. I don't think there's a single app out there that requires ICS. Upgrade back when you feel like it.
People are not complaining just to complain. They have a valid gripe. And whether you like it or not, the complaining on XDA got Asus involved (on XDA as well), so I see no reason why we can't discuss it here. You say we're complaining, we say we're giving feedback...
I've pleaded with Asus to PLEASE allow folks to downgrade to Honeycomb in an easy, support way. If they do that, this problem goes away. People have the option then. Stable or Cutting-edge...
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People are not complaining just to complain. They have a valid gripe. And whether you like it or not, the complaining on XDA got Asus involved (on XDA as well), so I see no reason why we can't discuss it here. You say we're complaining, we say we're giving feedback...
I've pleaded with Asus to PLEASE allow folks to downgrade to Honeycomb in an easy, support way. If they do that, this problem goes away. People have the option then. Stable or Cutting-edge...
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Well, I reported the thread as spam and clutter. If they leave it open then I guess you are right and ill stop trying to get peeps to stop posting out about it. If they close it then how about you do the same and stop helping to clog the forum.
Sorry Guys whining about subjects like these is never productive... it may be cathartic , but not useful to the forum.........
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