Decision point on HC downgrade . - Eee Pad Transformer General

Feels like most of us are sufficiently fed up with ICS fiasco.
Some of us are lucky enough to have NVFlashable TF101s.
I am feeling like calling it quits and downgrading to HC, following
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
The latest upgrade from ASUS didn't address the reboots, SODs & other issues.
I want to return to what I had just a few short weeks ago: a rock solid, pleasure-to-use tablet I could rely on 100% of the time, not the ICS cripple.
To ze barricades ?

rashid11 said:
Feels like most of us are sufficiently fed up with ICS fiasco.
Some of us are lucky enough to have NVFlashable TF101s.
I am feeling like calling it quits and downgrading to HC, following
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
The latest upgrade from ASUS didn't address the reboots, SODs & other issues.
I want to return to what I had just a few short weeks ago: a rock solid, pleasure-to-use tablet I could rely on 100% of the time, not the ICS cripple.
To ze barricades ?
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I honestly think you need to stop whining about the Asus firmware and how ****ty ICS is and give AOKP or Team EOS ICS a try. It will change your perspective entirely, because they actually just work - very well in fact.
If there is one most important thing I've learned about Android, its this: hardware manufacturers can't write software for ****. The AOSP versions of Android simply blow everything else out of the water in terms of reliability, stability, and performance. Give it a shot. You won't be disappointed, I promise. Make sure you WIPE your tablet first, and perform a backup before starting, obviouisly.

rashid11 said:
Feels like most of us are sufficiently fed up with ICS fiasco.
Some of us are lucky enough to have NVFlashable TF101s.
I am feeling like calling it quits and downgrading to HC, following
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
The latest upgrade from ASUS didn't address the reboots, SODs & other issues.
I want to return to what I had just a few short weeks ago: a rock solid, pleasure-to-use tablet I could rely on 100% of the time, not the ICS cripple.
To ze barricades ?
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No more upgrades for me unless Asus makes an advance announcement and provides a list of changes, improvements and what nots. Seems like we're being kept in the dark without so much as a hint of things to come. This lack of communication is not only frustrating, it's an attempt at improvement that for some of us creates a major setback.
Is there an Asus website that gathers problem cases from users and corresponding solutions that work? Would be nice if we can all just look up a problem and be directed at the right person/place for help.

a.mcdear said:
I honestly think you need to stop whining about the Asus firmware and how ****ty ICS is and give AOKP or Team EOS ICS a try. It will change your perspective entirely, because they actually just work - very well in fact.
If there is one most important thing I've learned about Android, its this: hardware manufacturers can't write software for ****. The AOSP versions of Android simply blow everything else out of the water in terms of reliability, stability, and performance. Give it a shot. You won't be disappointed, I promise. Make sure you WIPE your tablet first, and perform a backup before starting, obviouisly.
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No, really, Asus needs to fix ICS!!! We shouldn't have to go around trying tons of different ROMS to get something stable. We need to keep complaining to Asus!
That's like saying if the engine in your new car is having problems, don't complain to the automaker - just put another engine it! That's BS...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2

jtrosky said:
That's like saying if the engine in your new car is having problems, don't complain to the automaker - just put another engine it!
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This.
Moreover, last time I took a cursory glance at third-party AOSP builds they were all signed with the infamous AOSP testkey or built with ro.secure set to 0.
Sorry, but the security tradeoff far outweighs the (supposed) benefits.

There's a difference between free software and expensive engines..
And I will once again say, like I did in all other ICS complaint threads (stop making them..), my tablet works fine as intended. ICS is a huge relief from the (now terrible) Honeycomb interface and bad performance. Sure I have a reboot once in 14 or 15 hours, but is it a problem? No, because it happens either during the day or when it's in my backpack and never really during using it.

No_u said:
... like I did in all other ICS complaint threads (stop making them..)
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Hey didn't we go to different schools together? I think I have seen this before in maybe 15 other threads.
OP if there is something useful with your post, please make it so, otherwise this thread will go no where, just like all the others.

No_u said:
There's a difference between free software and expensive engines..
And I will once again say, like I did in all other ICS complaint threads (stop making them..), my tablet works fine as intended. ICS is a huge relief from the (now terrible) Honeycomb interface and bad performance. Sure I have a reboot once in 14 or 15 hours, but is it a problem? No, because it happens either during the day or when it's in my backpack and never really during using it.
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Hmm, excuse me, but I PAID for my Transformer - regardless if Android is free or not, I bought a products that was supposed to work properly. Right now, it doesn't.
I'm glad you are not having issues, but you are in the minority!! So just because you don't have issues, we should be happy?? Give me a break...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2

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Hmm, excuse me, but I PAID for my Transformer - regardless if Android is free or not, I bought a products that was supposed to work properly. Right now, it doesn't.
I'm glad you are not having issues, but you are in the minority!! So just because you don't have issues, we should be happy?? Give me a break...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2
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I agree with Jtrosky. You guys should be pissed as Hell. You should complain until your voice is raw and you get what you expect.
I only disagree with your coming to XDA to do it.
We are a modding community. One that is built for the devs, and only the Devs. Devs, who, I am sure, don't care that you have an issue with your device.
This isn't an ASUS forum. Complain to ASUS
This is forum clutter and needs to be closed and removed.

Alright I give up then. If you guys aren't willing to try an option that actually works, is free, and is EASY - fine. I was trying to be helpful and suggest a path that does work, but apparently you guys would rather just complain instead of actually doing something about it.
BTW, you realize that Asus has their own forums for supporting Transformer Tablets. If you really want to whine to them about their ****ty firmware, that is the appropriate place.

To answer your question, yes, downgrade to Honeycomb if you want. It's not going to kill you to not be on ICS. I don't think there's a single app out there that requires ICS. Upgrade back when you feel like it.

People are not complaining just to complain. They have a valid gripe. And whether you like it or not, the complaining on XDA got Asus involved (on XDA as well), so I see no reason why we can't discuss it here. You say we're complaining, we say we're giving feedback...
I've pleaded with Asus to PLEASE allow folks to downgrade to Honeycomb in an easy, support way. If they do that, this problem goes away. People have the option then. Stable or Cutting-edge...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2

jtrosky said:
People are not complaining just to complain. They have a valid gripe. And whether you like it or not, the complaining on XDA got Asus involved (on XDA as well), so I see no reason why we can't discuss it here. You say we're complaining, we say we're giving feedback...
I've pleaded with Asus to PLEASE allow folks to downgrade to Honeycomb in an easy, support way. If they do that, this problem goes away. People have the option then. Stable or Cutting-edge...
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using Tapatalk 2
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Well, I reported the thread as spam and clutter. If they leave it open then I guess you are right and ill stop trying to get peeps to stop posting out about it. If they close it then how about you do the same and stop helping to clog the forum.
Sorry Guys whining about subjects like these is never productive... it may be cathartic , but not useful to the forum.........
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3.1 update is another 2weeks away

Just got off the phone with Ace...and the tech said 3.1 update not for another 2 weeks. What is up with Acer?
Good thing I'm not impatient. 3.0.1 already sports all the features I need, I'll just grab the 3.1 update when it arrives for the performance enhancements.
WereCatf said:
Good thing I'm not impatient. 3.0.1 already sports all the features I need, I'll just grab the 3.1 update when it arrives for the performance enhancements.
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I'm not impatient. But for $520 it have a lot of problems...and this is my sec one. But right now it's the only one that have usb that out now.
1.) If you have problems and can't wait go for a custom rom. I don't have any issues with GPS. I had an issue with wifi but I found a rom that doesn't have it and it works nicely.
2.) If you don't like custom roms wait but don't be impatient because we're in the same boat and steaming about it won't help anyone and it sure won't speed up the rom delivery.
Those are basically your only two options.
soloxp said:
I'm not impatient. But for $520 it have a lot of problems...and this is my sec one. But right now it's the only one that have usb that out now.
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return it
Calling people a holes really makes me feel like Im feeding troll by responding though.
Can I ask do you really want to mount a ten inch tablet and use for turn by turn directions.
soloxp said:
I'm not impatient. But for $520 it have a lot of problems...and this is my sec one. But right now it's the only one that have usb that out now.
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Sorry to hear u paid $520( hope it's 32gb) mine was $450(16gb) with tax picked up, and I too am very happy...hate waiting. But, I have waited months to get the iconia on release day...what's another couple weeks for the official update
Mine works really good since the last ota update. 3.1 should hopefully just be icing on my cake.
bpivk said:
1.) If you have problems and can't wait go for a custom rom. I don't have any issues with GPS. I had an issue with wifi but I found a rom that doesn't have it and it works nicely.
2.) If you don't like custom roms wait but don't be impatient because we're in the same boat and steaming about it won't help anyone and it sure won't speed up the rom delivery.
Those are basically your only two options.
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This is true. If you do not want to wait then by all means try out the custom ROMs. The Devs are doing some good work, but not one of the ROMs are perfect. I personnaly will wait for the OTA. By then all the root tools should be doing good and I will be able to tweak my tab what little I do. All this fuss at Acer will not change a thing. For those that are swapping or planning to swap out thier Acer for one of the other brands, more power to you. They also are having thier issues and they already have 3.1. Chill out and enjoy the day.
bpivk said:
1.) If you have problems and can't wait go for a custom rom. I don't have any issues with GPS. I had an issue with wifi but I found a rom that doesn't have it and it works nicely.
2.) If you don't like custom roms wait but don't be impatient because we're in the same boat and steaming about it won't help anyone and it sure won't speed up the rom delivery.
Those are basically your only two options.
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Do people read....I try the custom roms 3.1 gps still don't work. i'm not impatient. If gps work and and the screen didn't turn off i'll be good to go.
Glebaka said:
go for custom roms god damnit
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But make sure you backup or you might never see the real and sweet OTA from acer.
I recommend against custom roms. The ones I've tried are bloated and bugged. Sure, the changes are there and you will feel the wait was worth it (especially if you browse xda a lot... wtf is wrong with this site??).
So far I regret updating. I don't know if I can go back from 3.1 to 3.0. If I can't I might be stuck on custom roms for a while...
Bec07 said:
So far I regret updating. I don't know if I can go back from 3.1 to 3.0. If I can't I might be stuck on custom roms for a while...
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Sry to go off topic but may I ask as to why you perfer 3.0 over 3.1?
Digiguest said:
Sry to go off topic but may I ask as to why you perfer 3.0 over 3.1?
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He wants to go back to 3.0 in order to get the official 3.1 OTA.
And I checked now, it's no issue to go back as long as you have the backup.
soloxp said:
Just got off the phone with Ace...and the tech said 3.1 update not for another 2 weeks. What is up with Acer?
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Call back get another tech and you will likely get another answer, there techs are likely outsourced and have no idea what is going on at acer on the dev side of things.
So you guys need to stop getting all worried about 1 guy on the internet who talked to 1 tech about the update.
Bec07 said:
But make sure you backup or you might never see the real and sweet OTA from acer.
I recommend against custom roms. The ones I've tried are bloated and bugged. Sure, the changes are there and you will feel the wait was worth it (especially if you browse xda a lot... wtf is wrong with this site??).
So far I regret updating. I don't know if I can go back from 3.1 to 3.0. If I can't I might be stuck on custom roms for a while...
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on any asus based rom, xda work flawlessly, just like any other site. Bloatware anytime can be cleaned, official roms even more bloated(like stupid Appinapp thingie, more of them) anyway i cant find any bugs on updated roms like vp 1.0.8 primee p2-3
soloxp said:
REALLY... The DAME customs roms 3.1 GPS STILL don't work. AS$ hole.
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gps works very good form me. In stock acer 3.0.1 i couldnt find even 2 sats but on Vp 1.0.8 i can find 12 satts and get lock in 5 seconds, thats everything tested on same place
soloxp said:
Do people read....I try the custom roms 3.1 gps still don't work. i'm not impatient. If gps work and and the screen didn't turn off i'll be good to go.
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I'm not sure if you read. You say 3.1 GPS didn't work for you - but it works fine for many others. Sounds like a fault with your tablet or your user, not your ROM.
Glebaka said:
anyway i cant find any bugs on updated roms like vp 1.0.8 primee p2-3
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Can you please install monster madness and play for ~3 minutes?
I have broken texture issues on both vp 1.0.8 and p2.2 both acer based.
Tell Dexter you findings over here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15205453#post15205453
Thanks a lot if you have the time to test this!
soloxp said:
Just got off the phone with Ace...and the tech said 3.1 update not for another 2 weeks. What is up with Acer?
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2 weeks is not a long time. Why do people insist that they should have everything immediately.
Once you get 3.1 you will be wanting the next version.
There's just WAY too much crying going on nowadays.
It's like I'm on howardforums all over again.
The reason why I haven't gone to custom ROMs is because I am not too experienced with these things and I don't want to brick my tablet, and because I keep seeing this or that that's broken in custom ROMs. I got tired of such hassles after running Linux for 10 years so now I'll just rather wait for the official release.
Besides, even if it was 2 weeks still it's not really THAT long; the most notable feature in 3.1 is the support for more USB peripherals, but that's more-or-less all, and if you don't need that then there should be no issues with you just hanging around patiently. Of course though, there are also people who are literally dying to get their USB gamepads working, but.. well, that's their prerogative, it's up to them to figure out if it is worth waiting the 2 weeks or taking the risk of going custom ROM - way.
WereCatf said:
The reason why I haven't gone to custom ROMs is because I am not too experienced with these things and I don't want to brick my tablet, and because I keep seeing this or that that's broken in custom ROMs. I got tired of such hassles after running Linux for 10 years so now I'll just rather wait for the official release.
Besides, even if it was 2 weeks still it's not really THAT long; the most notable feature in 3.1 is the support for more USB peripherals, but that's more-or-less all, and if you don't need that then there should be no issues with you just hanging around patiently. Of course though, there are also people who are literally dying to get their USB gamepads working, but.. well, that's their prerogative, it's up to them to figure out if it is worth waiting the 2 weeks or taking the risk of going custom ROM - way.
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And fair enough, if you're happy with 3.0 no point playing round with a custom update. Having said that, the overclocking, battery saving, and significantly smoother browser brought by a custom 3.1 has been very much worth it for me.

Keyboard Lag Fix

Hi everyone,
Some of you may already know me (the new guy to rooting ). For those who don't, I'm completely new to rooting and roms (just started a day ago).
I've tried two different roms so far other than stock (Urban and ERA, currently on ERA). and one of the biggest things to come to my eyes is the keyboard lag fix..
This fix is so significant it's crazy. I mean I used to hate the Epic keyboard because of this. I never knew that I could simply root and have a rom that would have fixed this issue until now.
I'm really curious why Samsung didn't bother to apply this fix? Did it sacrifice anything? Was it simply to make the keys more sensitive?
Just curious about everyone elses thoughts.
HanMan5000 said:
Hi everyone,
Some of you may already know me (the new guy to rooting ). For those who don't, I'm completely new to rooting and roms (just started a day ago).
I've tried two different roms so far other than stock (Urban and ERA, currently on ERA). and one of the biggest things to come to my eyes is the keyboard lag fix..
This fix is so significant it's crazy. I mean I used to hate the Epic keyboard because of this. I never knew that I could simply root and have a rom that would have fixed this issue until now.
I'm really curious why Samsung didn't bother to apply this fix? Did it sacrifice anything? Was it simply to make the keys more sensitive?
Just curious about everyone elses thoughts.
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Honestly I think it was a matter of mkasick finding a better way to deal with key press events. He did some serious reasearch, and being a kernel dev I can see he really put some effort into it. I think mkasick just understood the hardware better than the guy who originally wrote the code
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thomasskull666 said:
Honestly I think it was a matter of mkasick finding a better way to deal with key press events. He did some serious reasearch, and being a kernel dev I can see he really put some effort into it. I think mkasick just understood the hardware better than the guy who originally wrote the code
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I think you just hit the nail on the head! It's amazing what an enthusiast programmer can and will do that someone just earning a paycheck will overlook, intentional or not.
I agree with you there, but it makes you wonder exactly how the hell something so BAD and so CENTRAL to the device can make it out the damn door! Not only that, but it doesn't get fixed for multiple releases! *boggle*
I tell ya, I generally avoid rooting, just because that's my preference, but if the next update doesn't fix the skips, I'm gonna have to do it.
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I agree with you there, but it makes you wonder exactly how the hell something so BAD and so CENTRAL to the device can make it out the damn door! Not only that, but it doesn't get fixed for multiple releases! *boggle*
I tell ya, I generally avoid rooting, just because that's my preference, but if the next update doesn't fix the skips, I'm gonna have to do it.
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Yeah, I bought this phone and not the Evo one of the main reasons being the keyboard. I was more than dissapointed with the crappy keyboard problems. If I knew there's a fix if you root, I would have done this months ago lol.
Mkasiak, huge thanks.
Thanks the the Devs here, the current fixes added to the Gingerbread build really make the Epic shine.
It's fast, stable, has great battery life, a useful keyboard, and gtalk working.
It really makes me happy that I decided to choose this phone over the EVO back when both these phones were top of the line.
sleebus.jones said:
I agree with you there, but it makes you wonder exactly how the hell something so BAD and so CENTRAL to the device can make it out the damn door! Not only that, but it doesn't get fixed for multiple releases! *boggle*
I tell ya, I generally avoid rooting, just because that's my preference, but if the next update doesn't fix the skips, I'm gonna have to do it.
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Awww, just go ahead and root and fix it! and while you are at it, fix your GPS too! I waited a long time to root while on Froyo, but I finally did, but went unrooted to get the OTA to GB (don't really know why) and couldn't stand being unrooted. I wanted control back that only root could give me. Even my wife asked me to root her phone to keep certain apps from killing her battery.

[Discussion] [WIP] ICS Port

This is discussion thread for PaulBurton's ICS 4.0.x Port.
This is a Discussion Thread About the DEV Thread:WIP ICS PORT
Before We start to discuss i will tell what's working in the latest release *20120201*
Even tough the build is still in Alpha/Beta stage the build is extremely fast, even if all HW/3D Acceleration isn't activated also the driver's for the Tegra2 Isn't fully working! but still the build answer's fast and do the most things you tell it to do!
*Working* (Updated 2012-02-11)
Touchscreen
Sound
Wifi
Bluetooth
Deep Sleep
Headset
GPS On Location
GAPP'S
SU *Fixed*
Battery Indicator*
HDMI Out
Dock Station*
*Doesn't Work*
Rotation*
Microphone*
Camera
Full 3D*
Full HW*
Video Playback
*Latest Build -Battery Indicator-* Partitionaly working*
There you go atleast this is what i know what works and what doesn't!
Even if THOOSE Stuffs Doesn't Work, What can you say about the work so far?
IS it good, Bad, Amazing, or what is your expression!?
Please Hit The Thank's Button On Hes Port Project, as he's mostly doing this Alone and he also do it with much more closed source's!
Earlier Releases
20120201 - NvFlash or CWM
Suspend improvements, now uses LP0, but still likes waking itself up
Backlight fixed
Storage settings no longer crashes
USB device improvements, MTP indicator etc
USB drives & micro SD cards mount, images visible in gallery etc.
CWM update zip now just writes everything as a blob, should avoid all previous zip-related problems
Graphics drivers updated to those from nVidia’s ventana devkit ICS release
Includes Google apps
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20120121 - NvFlash or CWM
Suspend improvements (still needs work)
Headphones should work properly
Improve CWM update zip to cope with mounted /data
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20120112 - NvFlash or CWM CWM, CWM mirror
Initial audio support (still needs work)
Bluetooth working
WiFi MAC address fixed
Rooted
USB fixes
Include a CWM update zip version (be careful, remember only use if you can flash back honeycomb)
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20120110
Using a 2.6.39 kernel
Orientation defaulting to landscape
RAM size fixed
Hopefully fix suspend
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20120106
Fixed WiFi
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20120105
Initial build
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I think the battery indicator has a glitch that *Detection* has a temporary fix for. However, even partly broken, the ROM is fantastic. I would like to use it as a daily. I'm just not going to jump the gun on it. I'd like to see a little more in the configurable option department, like a reboot to recovery option in the shutdown menu. Removing the Phone.apk and Telephony.apk also. No real need for them as we stand. That's my 2 pennies so far. But, Paul has really gotten far for such a short time, and I'm excited to see where he takes it.
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Sharpe351 said:
I think the battery indicator has a glitch that *Detection* has a temporary fix for. However, even partly broken, the ROM is fantastic. I would like to use it as a daily. I'm just not going to jump the gun on it. I'd like to see a little more in the configurable option department, like a reboot to recovery option in the shutdown menu. Removing the Phone.apk and Telephony.apk also. No real need for them as we stand. That's my 2 pennies so far. But, Paul has really gotten far for such a short time, and I'm excited to see where he takes it.
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i can sure do indeed , we can use it for daily use, but thats not the best to do atm, but he sure works fast for being alone
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Do you think it would be safe for a late model B70 sbk2? I've seen the warnings but i really wanna try it. Caution vs curiosity. I know it's a stupid risk to take with the official ICS just around the corner. What do you guys think?
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Do you think it would be safe for a late model B70 sbk2? I've seen the warnings but i really wanna try it. Caution vs curiosity. I know it's a stupid risk to take with the official ICS just around the corner. What do you guys think?
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well, if you got a backup you can try the ics , as it can be done for daily use, but its not recomened. if you want to try make sure you got a working backup, also if you restore honeycomb after tested ics, you need to flash a HC kernel
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Dreamboxuser said:
Do you think it would be safe for a late model B70 sbk2? I've seen the warnings but i really wanna try it. Caution vs curiosity. I know it's a stupid risk to take with the official ICS just around the corner. What do you guys think?
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Risky considering you have no nvflash recovery should anything go wrong.
If you find you have no root / access to CWM you would be basically screwed.
I would listen to your sensible you this time and wait, yes it is bad having to wait, but worse if you brick your tablet.
ICS is nice, fast, but that soon fades with the current suspend / wifi bugs, I would advise waiting
Agreed. I've been in plenty of situations where CWM has saved me and always restored without a problem. It's just a shame i am not able to see the progress as it is happening and I can't be one of those people in the dev thread saying any updates?
Dreamboxuser said:
Agreed. I've been in plenty of situations where CWM has saved me and always restored without a problem. It's just a shame i am not able to see the progress as it is happening and I can't be one of those people in the dev thread saying any updates?
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The main thing is the kernal. Paul uses a different kernal to get ICS to function more smoothly. In the realm of sbk2, my main concern would be that NVflash doesn't work... and if something goes wrong, you are left with a really expensive coaster. With the rate that Paul has put out updates, it should be no time until we see a daily out of this.
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Oh well at least my concerns were justified. Although i would like to add
Any updates?????
i wanna play too.
Dreamboxuser said:
Oh well at least my concerns were justified. Although i would like to add
Any updates?????
i wanna play too.
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Asking for updates is like asking for an eta..don't do that. These guys are doing this on their own time, it is disrespectful to be impatient.
And fyi guys, i have a B70 if it roots with razor claw and can install cwm, and as long as you don't flash over your recovery you should be able to rescue any bad rom/kernel flash. I guess if my recovery went screwy i would be SOL but so far I've not had a problem. Be patient, and check and double check every step.
Did you wipe dalvik? Factory reset? Better make sure before you flash that rom and do an md5 before you flash any recovery to be sure it didn't corrupt in the meantime..if you are really careful, patient, and read a lot, and i mean A LOT, before you flash you can get away with flashing an sbk2 safely. If on the other hand, you've never flashed anything before, and don't know EXACTLY what you are doing, then i wouldn't risk it.
Paul's ICS is great progress, but unfortunately far from being just a novelty due to the bugginess and loss of functions. I played with it for about 5 minutes before I decided it wasn't ready for prime time and went back to revolver
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Sharpe351 said:
The main thing is the kernal. Paul uses a different kernal to get ICS to function more smoothly. In the realm of sbk2, my main concern would be that NVflash doesn't work... and if something goes wrong, you are left with a really expensive coaster. With the rate that Paul has put out updates, it should be no time until we see a daily out of this.
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Btw it's kernel with an "e"
luna_c666 said:
Asking for updates is like asking for an eta..don't do that. These guys are doing this on their own time, it is disrespectful to be impatient.
And fyi guys, i have a B70 if it roots with razor claw and can install cwm, and as long as you don't flash over your recovery you should be able to rescue any bad rom/kernel flash. I guess if my recovery went screwy i would be SOL but so far I've not had a problem. Be patient, and check and double check every step.
Did you wipe dalvik? Factory reset? Better make sure before you flash that rom and do an md5 before you flash any recovery to be sure it didn't corrupt in the meantime..if you are really careful, patient, and read a lot, and i mean A LOT, before you flash you can get away with flashing an sbk2 safely. If on the other hand, you've never flashed anything before, and don't know EXACTLY what you are doing, then i wouldn't risk it.
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Btw it's kernel with an "e"
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Ok luna... with an "e". lol...
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Dreamboxuser said:
Oh well at least my concerns were justified. Although i would like to add
Any updates?????
i wanna play too.
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read second post or go to dev thread it should be no problem flash this for me (it's not for me) and i got a Sbkv2 and i can always restore to HC!
luna_c666 said:
Asking for updates is like asking for an eta..don't do that. These guys are doing this on their own time, it is disrespectful to be impatient.
And fyi guys, i have a B70 if it roots with razor claw and can install cwm, and as long as you don't flash over your recovery you should be able to rescue any bad rom/kernel flash. I guess if my recovery went screwy i would be SOL but so far I've not had a problem. Be patient, and check and double check every step.
Did you wipe dalvik? Factory reset? Better make sure before you flash that rom and do an md5 before you flash any recovery to be sure it didn't corrupt in the meantime..if you are really careful, patient, and read a lot, and i mean A LOT, before you flash you can get away with flashing an sbk2 safely. If on the other hand, you've never flashed anything before, and don't know EXACTLY what you are doing, then i wouldn't risk it.
Paul's ICS is great progress, but unfortunately far from being just a novelty due to the bugginess and loss of functions. I played with it for about 5 minutes before I decided it wasn't ready for prime time and went back to revolver
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Btw it's kernel with an "e"
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about asking for ETA doesn't meen your disrespectall ful, look at all the ICS questions that asus got, its not disrespectful, you ask's for something that is good to know when you can be able to prepare to leave Honeycomb and go to ICS. but in this case Paul is almost alone working on this. and i can see that asking ETA when he does this on freetime will make it much more harder to set a date! SO asking ETA Isn't Mean. you really show that something is wanted and can give the OP both glad and angry moment's......
Anyhow. The Work goes amazingly fast forward, i wish i had his schills
LastStandingDroid said:
about asking for ETA doesn't meen your disrespectall ful, look at all the ICS questions that asus got, its not disrespectful, you ask's for something that is good to know when you can be able to prepare to leave Honeycomb and go to ICS. but in this case Paul is almost alone working on this. and i can see that asking ETA when he does this on freetime will make it much more harder to set a date! SO asking ETA Isn't Mean. you really show that something is wanted and can give the OP both glad and angry moment's......
Anyhow. The Work goes amazingly fast forward, i wish i had his schills
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You do realize asking Asus for an eta, when they are a company selling a product, and asking developers who are working for free in their own time, are not the same thing right?
Read the rules. It says pretty explicitly.. Do not ask for eta's.
Well the ETA thing was a joke simply because every third post in the dev thread is got an ETA. Don't let the lack of posts fool you I have been around the block a few times. Also if I hadn't been reading I wouldn't have known that it was not recommend to install on sbk2 devices.
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luna_c666 said:
You do realize asking Asus for an eta, when they are a company selling a product, and asking developers who are working for free in their own time, are not the same thing right?
Read the rules. It says pretty explicitly.. Do not ask for eta's.
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Help me out..... where does it say no etas? Serious question.... thnx
I think what the last post referred to is when you pay for a service it's ok to ask them(ASUS) for an ETA but when devs here (Xda) do it for nothing more than street cred, fun, or cause they want to it is not cool to ask for an ETA.
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slopokdave said:
Help me out..... where does it say no etas? Serious question.... thnx
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Ok, it isn't as explicit as I thought, but it has been pounded into my head because it's been repeated so many times over and over..
Here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1376759
And Here; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1081035
OBKING77's video cites it here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzpixaIOwSg
This part IS in the guide (though not in the rules);
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again.
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I've just read it so many times it's become a 'rule' in my head. Sorry I was not accurate when stating it was 'explicit in the rules'. But it is a matter of respect for the devs
I wonder if we could do a tally and see how many posts on xda are actually people asking for updates or etas? Probably be in the thousands if not more.
Anyways back on topic.... sorry about that i thought that the implication that it was a joke was pretty clear in the previous message.
So i do think i will try ICS out after i do my backups. I suppose as a trial it will be good.

Browser Freezing - ICS + Flash Video

Anyone else having issues with all browsers on ICS? If I play any content that is flash, the browser will freeze up from time to time. It becomes completely unresponsive to any touch. A reboot or browser kill in a task manager is the only way to get it working again.
Same thing here on all leaked builds.
line online footy been a bit bad though that is the first time I have noticed it
I think this is a general ICS flash issue. You can find such complaints very frequently in the net.
Best regards, maris
maris__ said:
I think this is a general ICS flash issue. You can find such complaints very frequently in the net.
Best regards, maris
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It never happens on my phone, so it must specific to the Acer Roms.
Irieone said:
It never happens on my phone, so it must specific to the Acer Roms.
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Uhmmm.....what part of "Leaked BETA" do you not understand?
All versions of the a500 "leaked" Roms, are BETA. Simply test code. And yes, there will be lots of issues until Acer decides to release a full Rom, otherwise known as "an official release".
I am sure the full release, will fix the issues in the browser. But to compare a recent leaked beta to an otherwise established phone rom, is a bit unfair.
was having serious browser issues too but none regarding flash since switching to opera mobile and setting flash to on demand. Having said that it will probably crash next time I watch something just to prove me wrong
Moscow Desire said:
Uhmmm.....what part of "Leaked BETA" do you not understand?
All versions of the a500 "leaked" Roms, are BETA. Simply test code. And yes, there will be lots of issues until Acer decides to release a full Rom, otherwise known as "an official release".
I am sure the full release, will fix the issues in the browser. But to compare a recent leaked beta to an otherwise established phone rom, is a bit unfair.
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Hey now, I am well aware of the fact that this is a leak. There was no thread specific to the issue so I made one. I wanted to make sure it was not a problem with my device. The fact is that there has been several leaks and stable flash integration at this point should be a given.
Also, with respect to my phone ROM comparison, I am running a leak as there is no official ICS release for my Rezound and again... the flash integration is fine.
I don't appreciate the lecture and your assumptions were not quite right in this instance. Please refrain from commenting in the future if you have nothing worthwhile to offer.
Peace
Irieone said:
Hey now, I am well aware of the fact that this is a leak. There was no thread specific to the issue so I made one. I wanted to make sure it was not a problem with my device. The fact is that there has been several leaks and stable flash integration at this point should be a given.
Also, with respect to my phone ROM comparison, I am running a leak as there is no official ICS release for my Rezound and again... the flash integration is fine.
I don't appreciate the lecture and your assumptions were not quite right in this instance. Please refrain from commenting in the future if you have nothing worthwhile to offer.
Peace
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That argument fell flat on its face the minute it left your fingertips my friend.
You're comparing apples to oranges, two completely different devices, and two completely different builds. Don't blame MD for trying to bring common sense to a thread that at best is ludicrous.
ATGAdmin said:
That argument fell flat on its face the minute it left your fingertips my friend.
You're comparing apples to oranges, two completely different devices, and two completely different builds. Don't blame MD for trying to bring common sense to a thread that at best is ludicrous.
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This is the "General" section of the A500. I am having issues related to Acer ICS ROMS and flash. If you perform a search of this forum, you will see this particular issue isn't really mentioned. Therefore my inquiry is legit and posted in the proper section.
I had hoped to accomplish 3 things in this thread...
1. Confirm the problem was not specific to my device
2. Find out what other folks have done to work around the issue
3. Centralize a thread for those just trying these ICS leaks to go for confirmation/information about issues related to flash content.
Lastly, I don't appreciate the tag-team troll. Neither of you can justify the tone taken in your posts.
Mods... Please edit or close this thread. Thank you.
irishmoe said:
was having serious browser issues too but none regarding flash since switching to opera mobile and setting flash to on demand. Having said that it will probably crash next time I watch something just to prove me wrong
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as above, worked for me. was also using dolphin hd major flash and crash problems. Opera mobile = none

How to make a great tablet worthless?... Update to ICS!

I couldn't believe it when I bought my TF101 on Black Friday for $250. What a steal! It was wonderful; totally reliable. I couldn't wait until ICS came out ; silly me. My TF101 has been completely unreliable since. Just like many others ; if I turn it off for more than a few minutes it either won't turn on or it reboots. I can no longer recommend the TF101 until Asus gets this resolved. I believe Asus will resolve this, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting concerned about the long time frame.
Please Asus, us loyal users need a fix soon, or at least a definitive status update.
Trying to be patient,
Dean
Install wake lock. It makes the tablet 100% reliable again, at the cost of slightly worse battery life. I'm living with it just fine until Asus release the fix they promised. A transformer with ICS+Wakelock is still x10 times better than a transformer with HC, IMHO.
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I couldn't believe it when I bought my TF101 on Black Friday for $250. What a steal! It was wonderful; totally reliable. I couldn't wait until ICS came out ; silly me. My TF101 has been completely unreliable since. Just like many others ; if I turn it off for more than a few minutes it either won't turn on or it reboots. I can no longer recommend the TF101 until Asus gets this resolved. I believe Asus will resolve this, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting concerned about the long time frame.
Please Asus, us loyal users need a fix soon, or at least a definitive status update.
Trying to be patient,
Dean
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personally i'm quite happy with tf+ics."Just like many others ; if I turn it off for more than a few minutes it either won't turn on or it reboots"---i haven't got this problem,with an aosp rom+oc kernel i have all what i need.my fortune is also that i don't suffer the kernels SOD\random reboots that mostly users reports.
everyone says wake lock makes battery life worse.
But is ICS + Wake Lock worse than ICS
or
is ICS + Wake Lock also worse than HC?
Root the thing and revert to HC.
This is not a place to come and freakin whine. If you aren't rooted then root. Read.
Complain somewhere else. This is not an asus site.
I have no issues with my tablet.....None.
tweaked said:
Root the thing and revert to HC.
This is not a place to come and freakin whine. If you aren't rooted then root. Read.
Complain somewhere else. This is not an asus site.
I have no issues with my tablet.....None.
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If instead of using your precious time to attack people, you answered my legitimate question about battery power, you would earn some goodwill and appreciation for yourself instead of being called a douche.
TF 101 - Reliability
DeanONH said:
I couldn't believe it when I bought my TF101 on Black Friday for $250. What a steal! It was wonderful; totally reliable. I couldn't wait until ICS came out ; silly me. My TF101 has been completely unreliable since. Just like many others ; if I turn it off for more than a few minutes it either won't turn on or it reboots. I can no longer recommend the TF101 until Asus gets this resolved. I believe Asus will resolve this, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't getting concerned about the long time frame.
Please Asus, us loyal users need a fix soon, or at least a definitive status update.
Trying to be patient,
Dean
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I am afraid that I must disagree with you about the transformer being unreliable. It may be that you would care to try rooting the device and installing a custom rom and kernel.
I have a TF101, B70. I rooted the device and have used a variety of ROMs, the latest being revolver 4 beta. I have also installed the test13 kernel by guever. For me this setup is perfect. I have had no SOD's or RR since I Installed the above. All is running incredibly smoothly, and reliably.
Perhaps you could try the setup which I have found to be so reliable and let us know if it has improved?
klau1 said:
If instead of using your precious time to attack people, you answered my legitimate question about battery power, you would earn some goodwill and appreciation for yourself instead of being called a douche.
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Dear SIr, the only attack in this thread is from you. Name calling is against the rules here.
Reported.
I don;t want your goodwill. I want you to search, read, and then only ask a question if the issue isnt covered. This place is for the devs, not for complaining
And reverting after a root is a legitimate fix. It was fine before ICS, it will be fine reverting.
FYI, my original post was not directed at you. See this thread is owned by the OP. I was replying to him. hence why your post was not quoted. I didn't even originally read your post. I do not have an answer for your question as its a subjective question. No one can answer what is better for you. Because You are an individual and one mans trash is another mans treasure. Try it and find out. It takes minutes to install an app an then try it out.....Talk about wasting time.....
I have no rebooting nor battery draining issue ever since updated to latest ICS build, not even any force close so far. It's been awesome experience apart of the unroot-able.. but this will surely surface the near future...
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farsight73 said:
I have no rebooting nor battery draining issue ever since updated to latest ICS build, not even any force close so far. It's been awesome experience apart of the unroot-able.. but this will surely surface the near future...
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Like u read my mind , I have 101G
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