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Did Acer kill the Iconia?

It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!

First, wrong section; you should know better by now.
Second, just because Acer have made it a bugger to root, doesn't mean the tablet is dead. It's absolutely useable without being rooted, and 99% of consumers don't actually give a monkeys about rooting, or even know what it actually is.
Hell, we get plenty of people on here asking what it is or what it's for...

New iconia is scheduled for Dec release but may get pushed back to january.

Interesting, you are posing that on XDA. We dont believe in Impossible to Root device. That is why people come to XDA; How to break what seem unbreakable or unlock what seem unlock-able. Just give some time, some genius will always find a way to kick some Corporate teeth in.

well wasnt it acer excuse not unlock the bootloader since honeycomb was not open source. I think that was one of their statements, so once we get updated to ICS maybe we all can start with a tweet assault on them again.
Not sure about u guys but I feel more comfortable recommending the xoom or asus tab just cause they are so open, same goes for those nook colors.

Vintage144 said:
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.

Cactus42 said:
You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze

Seriously? Near impossible to root? This guy must be slow, because this was just insanely easy... been rooted for months and tried nearly every rom at least once, all easy as pie.

germanhoss said:
LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
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Same thing with the original mytouch. I had to use a gold card and there were no less than 3 times during the process that i thought i had bricked it. i may be permanently scarred.
There have been many times i have rooted other devices including the iconia that i went searching for more steps because it was too easy.

ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha

ne too lol i was like...all i did was install an app, go to recovery, and flash rom ( give or take a few steps) and i did that the day i got it (sept 2011) and it took a few a mins, this thread confused the heck outta me lol
psycho_somatic said:
ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
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Cactus42 said:
You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!

lanisan said:
Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
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A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....

When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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BrianDigital said:
When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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When you learn to find it and come and post it here? It's pretty well documented, and other than the crap threads that get posted in here like this one, pretty well organized.

tumpy said:
A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1136 right here it is 3hreadsown from this one. Giggles even a blonde can find it
This is inbwrong thread sorry for my post all

I rooted my tablet right after I got it in May. Then when the 3.2 update came out, I went back to stock unrooted and ran that way until this morning when I realized I wanted to change my navigation buttons. Downgraded, rooted, installed CWM and flashed the rooted stock 3.2 and was back in business in like 20 minutes maybe. Would've been done quicker, but I had to pause to make some more coffee. Didn't even lose any of my data or apps. I don't know how you measure easy, but by my measure, its a cake walk. A cake walk where you actually win cake, instead of awkwardly shuffling around in a circle with strangers thinking that if you win it might all be worth it, only to have some snot nosed little turd walk away with the very cake you wanted, and you go home and weep gently into your pillow because you never win, and no one ever seems to see that all you want is to be loved, oh God, why can't someone just love you...sorry I digress.

lol i rooted mine like the first 15 minutes that it was out of the box. I don't like not overclocking

Vintage144 said:
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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And this thread belongs in the DEV area.
Mods must be on Thanksgiving break already

Back to the OT! Did Acer Kill the Iconia?
Here it is.... Plain and simple.... Acer is killing the the Iconia since they are taking their time to produce good accessories for it. Also, what were they thinking in giving the power adapter such a short cord?
Other than that.... I love my A500, and would not mind upgrading to a the Tegra3 version.

Decision point on HC downgrade .

Feels like most of us are sufficiently fed up with ICS fiasco.
Some of us are lucky enough to have NVFlashable TF101s.
I am feeling like calling it quits and downgrading to HC, following
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
The latest upgrade from ASUS didn't address the reboots, SODs & other issues.
I want to return to what I had just a few short weeks ago: a rock solid, pleasure-to-use tablet I could rely on 100% of the time, not the ICS cripple.
To ze barricades ?

rashid11 said:
Feels like most of us are sufficiently fed up with ICS fiasco.
Some of us are lucky enough to have NVFlashable TF101s.
I am feeling like calling it quits and downgrading to HC, following
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
The latest upgrade from ASUS didn't address the reboots, SODs & other issues.
I want to return to what I had just a few short weeks ago: a rock solid, pleasure-to-use tablet I could rely on 100% of the time, not the ICS cripple.
To ze barricades ?
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I honestly think you need to stop whining about the Asus firmware and how ****ty ICS is and give AOKP or Team EOS ICS a try. It will change your perspective entirely, because they actually just work - very well in fact.
If there is one most important thing I've learned about Android, its this: hardware manufacturers can't write software for ****. The AOSP versions of Android simply blow everything else out of the water in terms of reliability, stability, and performance. Give it a shot. You won't be disappointed, I promise. Make sure you WIPE your tablet first, and perform a backup before starting, obviouisly.

rashid11 said:
Feels like most of us are sufficiently fed up with ICS fiasco.
Some of us are lucky enough to have NVFlashable TF101s.
I am feeling like calling it quits and downgrading to HC, following
http://www.tabletroms.com/forums/tr...stock-3-2-recovery-roms-unbricking-tools.html
The latest upgrade from ASUS didn't address the reboots, SODs & other issues.
I want to return to what I had just a few short weeks ago: a rock solid, pleasure-to-use tablet I could rely on 100% of the time, not the ICS cripple.
To ze barricades ?
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No more upgrades for me unless Asus makes an advance announcement and provides a list of changes, improvements and what nots. Seems like we're being kept in the dark without so much as a hint of things to come. This lack of communication is not only frustrating, it's an attempt at improvement that for some of us creates a major setback.
Is there an Asus website that gathers problem cases from users and corresponding solutions that work? Would be nice if we can all just look up a problem and be directed at the right person/place for help.

a.mcdear said:
I honestly think you need to stop whining about the Asus firmware and how ****ty ICS is and give AOKP or Team EOS ICS a try. It will change your perspective entirely, because they actually just work - very well in fact.
If there is one most important thing I've learned about Android, its this: hardware manufacturers can't write software for ****. The AOSP versions of Android simply blow everything else out of the water in terms of reliability, stability, and performance. Give it a shot. You won't be disappointed, I promise. Make sure you WIPE your tablet first, and perform a backup before starting, obviouisly.
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No, really, Asus needs to fix ICS!!! We shouldn't have to go around trying tons of different ROMS to get something stable. We need to keep complaining to Asus!
That's like saying if the engine in your new car is having problems, don't complain to the automaker - just put another engine it! That's BS...
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jtrosky said:
That's like saying if the engine in your new car is having problems, don't complain to the automaker - just put another engine it!
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This.
Moreover, last time I took a cursory glance at third-party AOSP builds they were all signed with the infamous AOSP testkey or built with ro.secure set to 0.
Sorry, but the security tradeoff far outweighs the (supposed) benefits.

There's a difference between free software and expensive engines..
And I will once again say, like I did in all other ICS complaint threads (stop making them..), my tablet works fine as intended. ICS is a huge relief from the (now terrible) Honeycomb interface and bad performance. Sure I have a reboot once in 14 or 15 hours, but is it a problem? No, because it happens either during the day or when it's in my backpack and never really during using it.

No_u said:
... like I did in all other ICS complaint threads (stop making them..)
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Hey didn't we go to different schools together? I think I have seen this before in maybe 15 other threads.
OP if there is something useful with your post, please make it so, otherwise this thread will go no where, just like all the others.

No_u said:
There's a difference between free software and expensive engines..
And I will once again say, like I did in all other ICS complaint threads (stop making them..), my tablet works fine as intended. ICS is a huge relief from the (now terrible) Honeycomb interface and bad performance. Sure I have a reboot once in 14 or 15 hours, but is it a problem? No, because it happens either during the day or when it's in my backpack and never really during using it.
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Hmm, excuse me, but I PAID for my Transformer - regardless if Android is free or not, I bought a products that was supposed to work properly. Right now, it doesn't.
I'm glad you are not having issues, but you are in the minority!! So just because you don't have issues, we should be happy?? Give me a break...
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jtrosky said:
Hmm, excuse me, but I PAID for my Transformer - regardless if Android is free or not, I bought a products that was supposed to work properly. Right now, it doesn't.
I'm glad you are not having issues, but you are in the minority!! So just because you don't have issues, we should be happy?? Give me a break...
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I agree with Jtrosky. You guys should be pissed as Hell. You should complain until your voice is raw and you get what you expect.
I only disagree with your coming to XDA to do it.
We are a modding community. One that is built for the devs, and only the Devs. Devs, who, I am sure, don't care that you have an issue with your device.
This isn't an ASUS forum. Complain to ASUS
This is forum clutter and needs to be closed and removed.

Alright I give up then. If you guys aren't willing to try an option that actually works, is free, and is EASY - fine. I was trying to be helpful and suggest a path that does work, but apparently you guys would rather just complain instead of actually doing something about it.
BTW, you realize that Asus has their own forums for supporting Transformer Tablets. If you really want to whine to them about their ****ty firmware, that is the appropriate place.

To answer your question, yes, downgrade to Honeycomb if you want. It's not going to kill you to not be on ICS. I don't think there's a single app out there that requires ICS. Upgrade back when you feel like it.

People are not complaining just to complain. They have a valid gripe. And whether you like it or not, the complaining on XDA got Asus involved (on XDA as well), so I see no reason why we can't discuss it here. You say we're complaining, we say we're giving feedback...
I've pleaded with Asus to PLEASE allow folks to downgrade to Honeycomb in an easy, support way. If they do that, this problem goes away. People have the option then. Stable or Cutting-edge...
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jtrosky said:
People are not complaining just to complain. They have a valid gripe. And whether you like it or not, the complaining on XDA got Asus involved (on XDA as well), so I see no reason why we can't discuss it here. You say we're complaining, we say we're giving feedback...
I've pleaded with Asus to PLEASE allow folks to downgrade to Honeycomb in an easy, support way. If they do that, this problem goes away. People have the option then. Stable or Cutting-edge...
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Well, I reported the thread as spam and clutter. If they leave it open then I guess you are right and ill stop trying to get peeps to stop posting out about it. If they close it then how about you do the same and stop helping to clog the forum.
Sorry Guys whining about subjects like these is never productive... it may be cathartic , but not useful to the forum.........
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plz vote ( are u with LPY ICS or going back to GB)

THERE IS ANOTHER POST AND POLL THIS IS REDUNDANT
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plz vote ( are u with ICS or going back to GB)

There is already a post with this exact same question and a poll to answer.
Pointless waste of a thread.
On topic: LPY ICS !

Using stock ics latest update and ....hell no! No never gb for me. This rom is f!cking great. All i need now is a custom kernel(thats made with original sourses). No home made brick kernels with no wifi, black camera screen, buggy speaker.

updated to LPY two days ago... loving it so far...
wifi is good, battery life is good, no overheating problems...
The only 'complaint' i have is that it seems to be a bit of a memory hog... but i can wait for a strimmed down custom Rom based on this one to take care of that issue...
overall, pretty damn happy with it
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Was on stock ics rooted with a few home made improvements and loving it but ......... I brought my note outright without contract so should anything go wrong I'm looking at a £400 paper weight, not worth the risk so..... I'm back to CM9 for now

just i want to know the no of bricked phones compared to all

ratcom said:
Was on stock ics rooted with a few home made improvements and loving it but ......... I brought my note outright without contract so should anything go wrong I'm looking at a £400 paper weight, not worth the risk so..... I'm back to CM9 for now
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Considering what we've seen CM9, repacked i9220 kernel, or home made kernel has been the common denominator in every brick

Totally using official ics and loving it. ;-)
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Note_E said:
Considering what we've seen CM9 has been the common denominator in every brick
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so i am lucky i didnt try CM9 till now and having no problems with lpy now
but shall i do a factory reset or wipe ?

If it ain' broken, DON'T FIX IT!!!
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sehooo said:
so i am lucky i didnt try CM9 till now and having no problems with lpy now
but shall i do a factory reset or wipe ?
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Are you rooted with CWM?

Youhou another useless post about lpy supposed bug.
Seriously, just make the moderator make a post-it and it'll be enough, no need to open 100 post a day about that.
And what is this poll supposed to do ? Found a solution ? There arent enough "discussions" about it yet ?

Ueihtam said:
Youhou another useless post about lpy supposed bug.
Seriously, just make the moderator make a post-it and it'll be enough, no need to open 100 post a day about that.
And what is this poll supposed to do ? Found a solution ? There arent enough "discussions" about it yet ?
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On one level I agree with you. However when you have a trusted dev saying it's bugged and that his home grown kernel is not, yet all bricks lead back to CM9/repacked i9220, it makes it hard for me to believe that source considering the amount of donations. I look at what's happening and the results of the numerous upgrades being flashed over the past few days to use that as an indicator. Until LPY kernel source is released and the experts can comb through it, there is no real answer. I don't use CM, it's just not my flavor...but I really mean no disrespect to the work put forth by the many people who do work on CM.
It's ok for the community to collaborate and come to a unified consensus.

Note_E said:
Are you rooted with CWM?
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just flashed LPY and not rooted till now

sehooo said:
just flashed LPY and not rooted till now
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There should be no reason to do a full wipe if you're not getting force closes or other weird screen issues like pixel salads or SODs (screen of death where screen stays black for a good minute with responding).

Note_E said:
On one level I agree with you. However when you have a trusted dev saying it's bugged, but his home grown kernel is not, but all bricks lead back to CM9/repacked i9220, it makes it hard for me to trust that source considering it's a source of donations.
It's ok for the community to collaborate and come to a unified consensus.
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just i want to know no of bricked phones as there are alot of rumors and i read alot and didn't find the solution to get back to gb OR stay on LPY and go for root

Note_E said:
On one level I agree with you. However when you have a trusted dev saying it's bugged and that his home grown kernel is not, yet all bricks lead back to CM9/repacked i9220, it makes it hard for me to trust that source considering the amount of donations. I don't use CM, it's just not my flavor...but I really mean not disrespect to the work put forth by the many people who do work on CM.
It's ok for the community to collaborate and come to a unified consensus.
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Correction: only 1 brick was tied to CM9 and still no guarantee that cm9 was the cause in any way.
The leaked kernel? Yes bricks are confirmed to be related to wipes and stuff using that kernel.
There is 0 evidence than CM9 has anything to do with a single brick. Just because people that have bricked have previously used CM9 is not a factor. If that was the case then why not say that official samsung gb was the cause, after all, Every Brick thats been reported was running that rom at some point.
Your arguement is invalid.
Note: CM9 is great, fix the few issues with speaker and whatnot and I will never use stock again!

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There should be no reason to do a full wipe if you're not getting force closes or other weird screen issues like pixel salads or SODs (screen of death where screen stays black for a good minute with responding).
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i got force close with some applications like youtube and applications which need root which i setuped before on rooted GB before upgrading

vetchems said:
Correction: only 1 brick was tied to CM9 and still no guarantee that cm9 was the cause in any way.
The leaked kernel? Yes bricks are confirmed to be related to wipes and stuff using that kernel.
There is 0 evidence than CM9 has anything to do with a single brick. Just because people that have bricked have previously used CM9 is not a factor. If that was the case then why not say that official samsung gb was the cause, after all, Every Brick thats been reported was running that rom at some point.
Your arguement is invalid.
Note: CM9 is great, fix the few issues with speaker and whatnot and I will never use stock again!
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Correction: before "official" CM9 there was imilkas...which bricked many others. then there was xplod's donated device during kernel development which you can take that as you will.
My argument is valid...I'm using common denominators. But if you read my whole post, I said there is no real answer...so I'm not trying to be "right"...it's my opinion/observation

I moved back my sister phone to GB because of the brick issues in LPY ICS and high battery usage !
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Smelkus recovery vs. TWRP recovery LET THE BATTLE BEGIN!

Now that we have a few options for recoveries, it seems the discussion has been getting a little heated as to who's recoveries reign supreme.
I thought I would create this thread so those who have differing opinions can express them here without clogging the dev threads. Battle it out here but please KEEP IT CLEAN! Maybe some good ideas will come out of it. :thumbup:
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Good idea we shall see how this goes lol. I don't get why fans of either one, I personally use Smelkus, bother going into the thread of the other and bashing it. Just stick with your own thread in development lol.

Kreatur3 said:
Good idea we shall see how this goes lol. I don't get why fans of either one, I personally use Smelkus, bother going into the thread of the other and bashing it. Just stick with your own thread in development lol.
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I agree, I have used both and am using TWRP at the moment. I think both are great, but there is always room for improvement... TWRP has a great ui, simple touch screen commands, very user friendly. Smelkus gets right down to the nitty gritty, more wiping options and auto reboot. Good stuff on both.
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be very careful with this kind of thread, there are "fanboys" of each recovery mode.
and you might never get a straight answer but only get "bla blah" answers..
oh and btw, im using smelkus right now, and it never failed me like CWM did.. :highfive:

Another key difference between the two is the ability of RA-based recoveries to flash firmware from within recovery. Additionally, RA-based recoveries still support Amend scripting for the old-school (or "throwback", if you will ). Both of these allow OTA updates to be flashed without having to go back to the stock recovery (if you're on a completely stock ROM, of course).
Graphically and UI-wise, I think most people would agree that TWRP reigns supreme. Some of the features in the new TWRP are just crazy, like the built in Terminal Emulator and File Manager. That's been extremely helpful when I want to flash a PC36IMG zip file from a folder on my sd card, without having to connect my device to a computer. The renaming of backups is also a great feature (though I'd prefer it if the default name was there as a start first, as I typically use the date as the first item to identify my backup).
I do like the group and individual wipes offered by smelkusMOD, though. I would like the ability to wipe each partition (including /boot) in TWRP individually. TWRP really doesn't give you the ability to just wipe /data without wiping /sd-ext too, which doesn't really allow you to keep the apps you have installed there from ROM to ROM if you're using a2sd. This is a minor inconvenience if you only have a few apps, but it becomes a major one if you ext partition is almost full.
I personally think both recoveries are great. I keep a PC36IMG.zip on the root of my sd card at all times that has the latest version of smelkusMOD, while currently running TWRP as my main recovery. In case something goes wrong in TWRP, I can flash back to smelkusMOD with no issue.
P.S. I also use Boot Manager Pro, and I can restore a smelkusMOD-reated nandroid to a BMP slot, while I cannot do so with TWRP. I'm not sure if that's a format thing, or just how the backup files are named. So that's another thing to consider. If smelkusMOD had the same type of touchscreen/scrolling engine that TWRP has, that would definitely bring it up a notch. But I think the existing code would have to be completely revamped to accomodate that, and really there's no reason, because that's why we have variety :good:.
P.P.S. After reading the above post, I hope that my response came off objective, rather than as a "fanboy" response . It's also interesting to me that ClockWork Mod isn't even part of the discussion. To anyone that reads this - there is a good reason for that!!
P.P.P.S. And I hope no one forgets that I was another one that was bricked by the infamous TWRP 2.0, but I was able to recover my device and help at least one other person recover his. You'd think that would've scared me away from TWRP, right? (or maybe I'm just a moron and/or a glutton for punishment). Seriously though, I believe the recovery is working well now, as does smelkusMOD. To each his or her own.

No way capt!!, You obviously not a fanboy, i always think that you will come with a good answers and a good reasons too .. and you did it again!!
thanks for the insight, as for TWRP, perhaps i would try it someday :good:

adityo97 said:
be very careful with this kind of thread, there are "fanboys" of each recovery mode.
and you might never get a straight answer but only get "bla blah" answers..
oh and btw, im using smelkus right now, and it never failed me like CWM did.. :highfive:
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I just hope that those that want to argue and insult the other will come here instead of mucking up the development threads of each. :victory:

HarlanPepper0010 said:
I agree, I have used both and am using TWRP at the moment. I think both are great, but there is always room for improvement... TWRP has a great ui, simple touch screen commands, very user friendly. Smelkus gets right down to the nitty gritty, more wiping options and auto reboot. Good stuff on both.
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I thought of that auto reboot, and I think someone passed it along, but that isn't the point.
TWRP is a great recovery, but smelkus, based on amon ra, still carries the feature to flash amend scripted packages, which is a big deal since a lot of people / devs haven't converted a lot of the files to edify.

teh roxxorz said:
I thought of that auto reboot, and I think someone passed it along, but that isn't the point.
TWRP is a great recovery, but smelkus, based on amon ra, still carries the feature to flash amend scripted packages, which is a big deal since a lot of people / devs haven't converted a lot of the files to edify.
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Interesting... I have not run across an amend script since my days of flashing on the og incredible. .
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HarlanPepper0010 said:
Interesting... I have not run across an amend script since my days of flashing on the og incredible. .
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about 40% of all android developers still use amend scripting. That's a lot of people.
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.

I have tried both recoveries and have to say I like smelkus' recovery best. TWRP has a really cool UI, but I love the options in smelkus. If they could make a Smelkus/TWRP recovery, now that would be awesome!
Kendall

Troll switch [-] on.
CWM!!!! Trololol

death-by-soap said:
Troll switch [-] on.
CWM!!!! Trololol
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Troll is my middle name lol
trolla la la la la!!!!!!

ropodope said:
about 40% of all android developers still use amend scripting. That's a lot of people.
ropodope
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.
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Wow! I thought it was completely phased out... I remember the days of trying to flash a Rom with that damn edify script and it told me no dice... Haha!
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Smelkus for me

i'd throw my hat in the ring for smelkus. twrp has some potential though tho the bricking issue makes me weary (most because i use my phone for work so bricking it wouldnt kill me but would sure cause a huge inconvenience but diff story for diff day )
and i'll second 40 percent being a lot

Both recoveries are outdated to me. Why can't a recovery just know what I want to do, and then do it without me having to push buttons...or touch the screen?
Maybe you guys could add a Siri voice or something that would ask me questions and then do stuff? But it also has to know when not to ask me questions, because too many questions aggravate me. Also, and this is a deal breaker for me...it can't talk when I'm watching football...EVER!!! It needs to just sit there, and wait for a commercial.
I ain't got time for no recovery asking me stupid wipe questions when the game is on...juss sayin'

I'd be interested in trying TWRP, and I know that's it's no longer an issue, but the history of bricking in the older version just makes me fearful of it.
TBH, choices is what makes this community so great, and customization is what users want, so the more choices to customize a device to your own liking, the better

HipKat said:
I'd be interested in trying TWRP, and I know that's it's no longer an issue, but the history of bricking in the older version just makes me fearful of it.
TBH, choices is what makes this community so great, and customization is what users want, so the more choices to customize a device to your own liking, the better
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I say give it a shot hip. I'm using it now and have had no problems. I know a lot of people are wary because of a possible brick, but don't we see the same warning when we flash roms? I mean if we saw a sign on our cars that said "there is a possibility you could crash today" would that stop us from jumping in it everyday? Just sayin...
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spyder3 said:
Both recoveries are outdated to me. Why can't a recovery just know what I want to do, and then do it without me having to push buttons...or touch the screen?
Maybe you guys could add a Siri voice or something that would ask me questions and then do stuff? But it also has to know when not to ask me questions, because too many questions aggravate me. Also, and this is a deal breaker for me...it can't talk when I'm watching football...EVER!!! It needs to just sit there, and wait for a commercial.
I ain't got time for no recovery asking me stupid wipe questions when the game is on...juss sayin'
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I hear they have toilets that "wipe" for you.... Jussayin' :laugh:

Android 7 is out

Received the update to Android 7.0 NRD90M (from Preview 5) last night.

Wifi or LTE?
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I enrolled my Nexus 9 LTE in the Beta program and got DP5 yesterday. Today I got the update to full Android 7.0.

I did the same (beta program) 2 hours ago for my N9 WiFi, received the full Android 7 and installed; then removed from beta with no need to reinstall all (I agreed to receive the OTA for a official Android version but nothing is arrived...).

Nexus 9 (WIFI) factory image : https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/volantis-nrd90m-factory-b718f71b.tgz
Nexus 9 (WIFI) OTA image : https://dl.google.com/dl/android/aosp/volantis-ota-nrd90m-5468c87c.zip

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glockman4519 said:
Has any of you awesome followers with more android skill than I, made a TWRP flashable zip with this update?
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not that i've come across but why would you need one? stock img is available from google
edit: you could even take the extremely lazy route (as long as you're on fully stock) and sign into the beta program for N, it updates almost immediately

My device is not recognised for the beta program. Any ideas why. I flashed the full version any way but just curious. Nexus 9 wi-fi.

Gold Ribbed said:
My device is not recognised for the beta program. Any ideas why. I flashed the full version any way but just curious. Nexus 9 wi-fi.
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Nexus 9 wifi latest factory image already available on Google developer site.
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damngood98 said:
not that i've come across but why would you need one? stock img is available from google
edit: you could even take the extremely lazy route (as long as you're on fully stock) and sign into the beta program for N, it updates almost immediately
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glockman4519 said:
It has nothing to do with being lazy... Lol..... It has to do with ADB. I know that I can use ADB and side load this from my PC using TWRP. But usually there is a rooted version out hours after Google releases a new OS. I was just checking to see of anyone made one yet. That's all. I see now that there isn't one so I will wait until one is made and shared. Thank you though for replying to my post.
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Actually .. if you're waiting for someone to post a zip flashable version that's already rooted, instead of just flashing the files with fastboot, then flashing superSu, I'd call that pretty lazy too. Lol

dictionary said:
Actually .. if you're waiting for someone to post a zip flashable version that's already rooted, instead of just flashing the files with fastboot, then flashing superSu, I'd call that pretty lazy too. Lol
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Call it what you will. I am not going to argue with you. I already have it on and rooted, so I'm not lazy. I do video reviews and a large portion of my subs are new to android. I just wanted to try and find an easy to flash, one step process for them to follow but you cant even ask for something like that here without someone doing exactly this. Its a shame really and its no wonder that some people find it hard to enjoy this side of Android. Thank you again for you response.
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Going to have to disagree with you on this one. If you are doing any of this stuff to your device, it's best you know how to fix it if it doesn't work out. IMHO, if you are on the Nexus line, you should be adb/fastboot proficient.
I can understand why people don't like responses like ours, but honestly the world has become way too coddled. People want everything NOW. Answer my question, I don't want to search. For the people who have been around for a while, that gets old. I have no qualms helping people out, but people are overly sensitive to everything. I'm not trying to argue either. Wasn't trying to come off negative, was just being playful. If that gets misconstrued as something that would make people not want to visit this site, then I say they seriously need a dose of reality.

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Going to have to disagree with you on this one. If you are doing any of this stuff to your device, it's best you know how to fix it if it doesn't work out. IMHO, if you are on the Nexus line, you should be adb/fastboot proficient.
I can understand why people don't like responses like ours, but honestly the world has become way too coddled. People want everything NOW. Answer my question, I don't want to search. For the people who have been around for a a while, that gets old. I have no qualms helping people out, but people are overly sensitive to everything. I'm not trying to argue either. Wasn't trying to come off negative either, was just being playful. If that gets misconstrued as something that would make people not want to visit this site, then I say they seriously need a dose of reality.
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Just don't bother saying anything at all then this thread won't get filled up with your disagreements... Or at least just private message them:good:

glockman4519 said:
Agreed to disagree. I wasn't asking for anything right away or demanding of anything of the sort. I simply asked a question. I searched and did what was required on my part. And I didn't ask you personally for you're help. It was a simple question asked in general. Either there is a yes response or no response at all.
I have also been around for a while and am not new to this forum or android. I know the rules and before I posted I checked. All I'm saying is if there is no help or answer to my question, and there isn't, I go my mary way with no response and I keep searching on my own. I get it. Look at my posts, I don't treaty people like idiots. If I don't have an answer for a post, I Just don't reply. I am not going to waist my day in argument over something this trivial. I am sorry to have disturbed you or anyone one else for that matter in this thread and I sincerely apologize, it's just a shame that it's needed, but I'll respect that since I wasn't the one to start this thread. Again thank you for your reply.
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Was referring to the people you were trying to instruct in your video, not you.
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Just don't bother saying anything at all then this thread won't get filled up with your disagreements... Or at least just private message them:good:
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Not replying has also had people come back to threads mad that nobody replied, lol. It's a dammed if you do, dammed if you don't type situation. *shrug* oh well I guess.

glockman4519 said:
Call it what you will. I am not going to argue with you. I already have it on and rooted, so I'm not lazy. I do video reviews and a large portion of my subs are new to android. I just wanted to try and find an easy to flash, one step process for them to follow but you cant even ask for something like that here without someone doing exactly this. Its a shame really and its no wonder that some people find it hard to enjoy this side of Android. Thank you again for you response.
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Just thinking out loud, but maybe you are not best placed to pass on your "knowledge" to beginners if you yourself don't know much/enough about the subject?
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Got my update yesterday via OTA . I must say I am slightly underwhelmed by the performance now. Especially Chrome feels much more laggy and sluggish. Scrolling was smoother before.
Anyone else with the same experience?

yahooooo said:
Got my update yesterday via OTA . I must say I am slightly underwhelmed by the performance now. Especially Chrome feels much more laggy and sluggish. Scrolling was smoother before.
Anyone else with the same experience?
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I haven't updated yet, so I don't know if the following applies to N, and, since you took the OTA you're probably not interested in a custom kernel, and, I don't even know what kernels are available, but, what the hell, just in case: Chrome was extremely slow for me, too, until I installed ElementalX and set Readahead to 128.

PhilipTD said:
I haven't updated yet, so I don't know if the following applies to N, and, since you took the OTA you're probably not interested in a custom kernel, and, I don't even know what kernels are available, but, what the hell, just in case: Chrome was extremely slow for me, too, until I installed ElementalX and set Readahead to 128.
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Something went wrong !!
Try factory reset !
Reflash everything via fastboot
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sheenswizner said:
Something when wrong !!
Try factory reset !
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I'm afraid that I don't understand your comment.