Is the 7.7 worth the price? - Galaxy Tab 7.7 General

I'm just weighing my options here and appreciate any input from current users. I'm debating on selling my Bionic with Lapdock AND 10.1 Galaxy Tab for a 7.7". Would you guys consider it worth the upgrade from the 10.1? I'm happy with my current tablet but would like a more portable tab for the summer. Thanks in advance!

Joe T said:
I'm just weighing my options here and appreciate any input from current users. I'm debating on selling my Bionic with Lapdock AND 10.1 Galaxy Tab for a 7.7". Would you guys consider it worth the upgrade from the 10.1? I'm happy with my current tablet but would like a more portable tab for the summer. Thanks in advance!
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Worth every penny IF you do the following:
1. Ditch Verizon.
2. Transfer your number to Straight Talk.
3. Sign up for Straight Talk's $45/month unlimited everything bring your own device plan.
4. Enjoy.
The 7.7 runs circles around the 10.1 in every category IMO, especially if you perform the minor tweaks mentioned in the common fixes thread/sticky.

Joe T said:
I'm just weighing my options here and appreciate any input from current users. I'm debating on selling my Bionic with Lapdock AND 10.1 Galaxy Tab for a 7.7". Would you guys consider it worth the upgrade from the 10.1? I'm happy with my current tablet but would like a more portable tab for the summer. Thanks in advance!
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The only thing I really liked about the 10.1 (aside from occasional squinting at the 7.7) over the 7.7 is the stereo speaker separation from the speakers being on opposite sides of the screen. The 10.1 was too big for me to bother with taking anywhere, plus the 6800 can double as a phone. The SAMOLED screen on the 7.7 is pretty close to being "Retina", while the 10.1's screen looks woefully pixelated when looking at email/web pages.
I'm reading quite a bit of ebooks/pdf on the 7.7, and on the 10.1 I hardly read anything other than the web. The size and light weight of the 7.7 make it pretty good for a non e-ink reader.
The 10.1 is still great for watching videos. Better than the 7.7, in my opinion.
Seconding the suggestion to avoid Verizon. LTE is nice and all, but screw 'em.

How is the data service on straighttalk?
HSPA+? or just plain 3G? surely they don't do LTE, right?
they run off of AT&T's network, correct?

junglizste said:
How is the data service on straighttalk?
HSPA+? or just plain 3G? surely they don't do LTE, right?
they run off of AT&T's network, correct?
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It would at most be HSPA+, since only the 6800 model could work on that network and it doesn't have an LTE radio. The 6800 works fine on AT&T's network. Depending on the plan of the SIM card you install, you may need to edit the APN settings. I'm using the SIM from an LTE "Elevate" hotspot and have to manually put in a "Broadband" APN (no custom settings beyond the name) to get 3G/HSPA+ speeds.

Are you considering the P6800 or the I815? Remember that the VZW version can't be used as a phone, so you'd have to move to AT&T if you want to ditch both your phone and tab 10.1. The only reason to get the I815, imo, is if you really want the IR blaster or separate LTE service. A P6810 can be had for under $500 now, which is great if you want to keep your phone and just tether as needed. This is what I did personally, since I don't always carry my tab when I go out. Additionally, I expect my tab to outlast my phone, and when AT&T finally gets LTE in my area, my tab will also reap the speed benefits.
For an e-reader, I'll echo the above comment that the 7.7 works well. I still primarily use my kindle 3, but with white text on deep OLED blacks, the 7.7 is pretty easy on the eyes even for several hours, plus of course it can be read in the dark.
I also think the 7.7 is better for movies than the 10.1. The SAMOLED+ screen is beautiful, and black crush can be minimized by tweaking the screen properly. The smaller size is also better since when I watch video on my tab I'm often lying down, so I can keep it more comfortably at arms' length and still be able to see the whole screen comfortably.
The main downside to buying a P6800/6810 is the apparently high risk of importing a faulty screen. Depending on how sensitive you are to the various OLED manufacturing artifacts, you might be better off waiting for the next generation of OLED tablet. From reports around here, it definitely seems like the 7.7 panels have more issues than the 4.3" SAMOLED+ used in the GS2 or the PenTile screens used in the Nexus and Note.

It's worth it for me because of the microSD card, screen and size. It's perfect to bring around while using a dslr and being able to swap the memory with no hassle.

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Galaxy Tab 10.1 or 8.9?

Hi guys, I was wondering which screen size is optimal for the GT - the 10.1 or 8.9?
I intend to use my tablet for content creation (docs etc) as much as content consumption. So would the extra 1.2 screen real estate make much of a difference?
Which one do you personally prefer and what are the reasons (easier to hold, more portable etc)? Thanks
dpakrr said:
Hi guys, I was wondering which screen size is optimal for the GT - the 10.1 or 8.9?
I intend to use my tablet for content creation (docs etc) as much as content consumption. So would the extra 1.2 screen real estate make much of a difference?
Which one do you personally prefer and what are the reasons (easier to hold, more portable etc)? Thanks
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The portability isnt much different since neither can fit in your pocket.
I like the bigger screen, its a more optimal tablet size in my opinion. (It's been said by others to be the "perfect size for a tablet")
The dev work for the 10.1 is MUCH greater (ROMs, Apps, Support).
I haven't had a play around with a 8.9 but 10.1 will be much cheaper. And I read tons of uni research fairly easily on my 10.1
But then the 8.9 might have voice/dialer features. I much prefer 10.1 screen to the sony tablets smaller screen.
After seeing the 8.9 at Best Buy, I purchased the 10.1.
1.2" might seem negligible but IMO you'd enjoy more on the bigger screen (aside from the theoretically better screen quality of the 8.9).
lol i had two tabs open, one with the 10.1 16gb wifi model and one with the 8.9 3g 16gb model. you guys convinced me to go for the 10.1 (plus the fact that its 200 bucks cheaper here lol). bought it, cant wait to receive it now. thanks!
dpakrr said:
lol i had two tabs open, one with the 10.1 16gb wifi model and one with the 8.9 3g 16gb model. you guys convinced me to go for the 10.1 (plus the fact that its 200 bucks cheaper here lol). bought it, cant wait to receive it now. thanks!
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Sure thing bro.
Bluemotion said:
I haven't had a play around with a 8.9 but 10.1 will be much cheaper. And I read tons of uni research fairly easily on my 10.1
But then the 8.9 might have voice/dialer features. I much prefer 10.1 screen to the sony tablets smaller screen.
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The 8.9 is actually cheaper, but not by much. As for the dialer, that remains to be seen. Video and articles from May said it was going to have a dialer but people that just bought them say it's either not present or inactive. Other than screen size and location of the speakers, the internals are the same between the two. I played with a 8.9 and own a 10.1. I liked the feel of the 8.9 but I like the bigger screen on the 10.1 as I use it a lot for video, surfing, and reading. I've been waiting for a 10.1 3G from the UK for over a month. They're receiving stock on Monday and it'll ship out the same day. All the 32GB & 64GB 3G's have been pushed back for over a month in the UK and units are just now being received from Samsung. They'll have the latest firmware. It'll be intersting to see if any updates were made that impact the dialer (or anything else for that matter).
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The 8.9 is actually cheaper, but not by much. As for the dialer, that remains to be seen. Video and articles from May said it was going to have a dialer but people that just bought them say it's either not present or inactive. Other than screen size and location of the speakers, the internals are the same between the two. I played with a 8.9 and own a 10.1. I liked the feel of the 8.9 but I like the bigger screen on the 10.1 as I use it a lot for video, surfing, and reading. I've been waiting for a 10.1 3G from the UK for over a month. They're receiving stock on Monday and it'll ship out the same day. All the 32GB & 64GB 3G's have been pushed back for over a month in the UK and units are just now being received from Samsung. They'll have the latest firmware. It'll be intersting to see if any updates were made that impact the dialer (or anything else for that matter).
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Oh I thought it would sellat a higher price. I think I read somewhere there was going to be a ridiculous markup especially for the UK (me). Regarding dialer update, I tend not to hold my breathe for manufacturer updates. But i would not mind being pleasantly surprised.
I've had my 8.9 since Wednesday and I must say I am enjoying it better than I thought I would. Had the 10.1 Toshiba Thrive and returned it after a few days. Browser seemed alot slower on it and had a tendency to "hiccup" when scrolling. The textured back of the Thrive I feel in love with due to its easy grip, however after holding the device for an extended period because if its size began to feel very heavy and brick like. My Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 feels great, not to mention its easier for me to type than on a 10.1 screen. The additional 1.2 of real estate may not seem alot however for me anyhow it makes all the difference when typing.
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I actually replaced my 10.1 for 8.9, i like the 8.9 size, easier to hold in bed and on sofa and i think easier to type on with two thumps.... Portability was the main reason....
Same here, I like the feel of the 8.9, can hold with one hand and not tire. I also own the Acer 10.1 and compared to size, 8.9 is great.
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hello!!
I just bought the 8.9 and I am delighted to 10.1 and me too much (the taste and color) I do not regret my choice at all
i just got rid of the 10.1 to replace it with 8.9 but i'm going to wait for the 7.7 instead
I just got an 8.9 Friday. I held it at Best Buy and fell in love. I didn't need it at all since it became my 6th tablet (I have a problem, I know.); but I was so floored by holding it, I could not resist. I think how special this form factor is somewhat lost on people who don't own 10 inch tablets. I was completely dismissive of this product from looking at pictures and seeing it was not much smaller than the 10.1, but then I held it. The first thing that came to mind was Jobs' comment that the reduction in weight and thickness made the iPad 2 a categorically different experience from the original. I have an original iPad and have held many iPad 2's and never felt that way about them. I feel that way about the 8.9 in comparison to the other tablets I have.
My recommendation to anyone thinking about this product is to go hold one for at least 15-30 minutes. Change orientation a few times. Type on the keyboard in portrait orientation. If you plan on using your tablet on a surface with a keyboard case or dock, then get the 10.1. If you plan on holding the tablet on the couch or in bed, get the 8.9. It disappoints me that so many bloggers/journalists are treating tablets like flat screen TVs in price/size discussions but don't go into the nuanced discussion that even exists when choosing a TV size (room size, viewing distance, wall mount vs stand).
We'll see what the 7.7 brings to the discussion, but right now 8.9 is my favorite for holding. I use my original 7 as my phone so I don't really consider it part of the tablet discussion and the Galaxy Note seems better suited for phone duty. I don't think 7 is a compelling consumption or creation size unless you have the need to always have the device on your person.
Thumbs Up For A Great Review...
RuzaRoos said:
I just got an 8.9 Friday. I held it at Best Buy and fell in love. I didn't need it at all since it became my 6th tablet (I have a problem, I know.); but I was so floored by holding it, I could not resist. I think how special this form factor is somewhat lost on people who don't own 10 inch tablets. I was completely dismissive of this product from looking at pictures and seeing it was not much smaller than the 10.1, but then I held it. The first thing that came to mind was Jobs' comment that the reduction in weight and thickness made the iPad 2 a categorically different experience from the original. I have an original iPad and have held many iPad 2's and never felt that way about them. I feel that way about the 8.9 in comparison to the other tablets I have.
My recommendation to anyone thinking about this product is to go hold one for at least 15-30 minutes. Change orientation a few times. Type on the keyboard in portrait orientation. If you plan on using your tablet on a surface with a keyboard case or dock, then get the 10.1. If you plan on holding the tablet on the couch or in bed, get the 8.9. It disappoints me that so many bloggers/journalists are treating tablets like flat screen TVs in price/size discussions but don't go into the nuanced discussion that even exists when choosing a TV size (room size, viewing distance, wall mount vs stand).
We'll see what the 7.7 brings to the discussion, but right now 8.9 is my favorite for holding. I use my original 7 as my phone so I don't really consider it part of the tablet discussion and the Galaxy Note seems better suited for phone duty. I don't think 7 is a compelling consumption or creation size unless you have the need to always have the device on your person.
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I feel the exact same way. Thanks for the great review of this device. I fell in love with mine the moment I held it. It just feels right in the hands. With my Toshiba Thrive 10.1 (which I promptly returned to Best Buy), it got tiresome after a little while of holding it. The 8.9 is an awesome tablet as-is, but I know as soon as we get a dedicated forum and some of the most awesomeness and dedicated devs to take their time and crank out some of the hottest ROMS this Tab will become even better.
And you hit it dead on with the similarities to flat screens I myself have noticed how some have compared tablets to TVs. There's just no comparison because I sure as heck aint gonna hold my 42" flat screen in my hand and compare it to a tab...LOL.
I purchased the 10.1 too, but I sometimes feel it was heavy.
Tivo7 said:
The portability isnt much different since neither can fit in your pocket.
I like the bigger screen, its a more optimal tablet size in my opinion. (It's been said by others to be the "perfect size for a tablet")
The dev work for the 10.1 is MUCH greater (ROMs, Apps, Support).
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Have you not seen my custom pockets that can fit anything up to 32" ?
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Since I like to get more for my money (about $64 an inch) I chose the 10.1.
All jokes aside, I want the biggest screen I can get. It doesn't make any sense that smartphones are making screens bigger yet we want our tablet screens to get smaller. The 7.7 Tab just sounds ridiculous when compared to getting the GTab 10.1.
MODS - sorry for double posting, thought I was on the same post.
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Having had time using both, I ultimately went for the 8.9 3G. I can confirm for sure that does NOT have a GSM dialer (present inside root, but not active to the user). That said, it's not that big of an issue for me. Pairing up GroveIP with my Google voice works just fine for the odd tablet based phone call. Besides that, the 8.9 teamed up with my trusty SGS2 makes for a pretty fearsome combo on-the-go.
As for th 8.9 itself, it just feels better to hold in my opinion. It has a much more solid construction and premium feel. Browsing the web in portrait is such a joy, especially when thumb-typing is made just that little bit easier. Speaking of which, this whole post was typed up on my 8.9
The rubberized back of the 8.9 is awesome btw.
I will admitted that I was very tempted to wait for the 7.7 and/or the Note, but for now, I'm very happy with my 8.9/SGS2 duo.
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The rubberized back of the 8.9 is awesome btw.
I will admitted that I was very tempted to wait for the 7.7 and/or the Note, but for now, I'm very happy with my 8.9/SGS2 duo.
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My galaxy tab 10.1 from Egypt has black rubbrized back also . and you are right it is much more better than the shiny cheap white back
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Has the Note killed the 7-inch tablets?

Some reviews show that the Note is able to perform as well as the 7-inch tablets so it looks like the Note will soon replace them.
Gaugerer said:
Some reviews show that the Note is able to perform as well as the 7-inch tablets so it looks like the Note will soon replace them.
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I doubt this highly . Bigger screens will always be better.
We have the resolution, yes - but try playing majesty on the note.
That's just painful. It's too small.
- Frank
I was planning to get 7 inch tab. But not anymore
I have owned and used daily an original galaxy tab 7" since they launched, and I am planning to replace it with a note in a few months. Mainly waiting to see what is happening with them in the United States, but I am also hoping that they will drop at least a little in price by then.
My one complaint about my 7" tab is that it is almost too big to keep in my pockets year round, and if I hope to get a good upgrade, I am certain that the 7.7" will be too big for my pockets, so the note it is.
I still see the mid-size form factor of 7"+ having a following for persons that carry a bag everywhere and prefer the fine balance of screen real estate and mobility that the 7" form factor strikes.
I use my 7" HTC Flyer for school when I'm in Clinical(nursing) It fits really nice in my lab coat, and people recognize it as a tablet/productivity device. If you try and pull out a phone, even a 4" one they will think you are texting or playing around(even though you can do that on a tablet) they just some a stupid perception towards phones vs tablets being out on the floor...Hopefully the Note is big enough to be seen as a tablet. The Flyer is just a tiny tiny bit bigger then what I need it for. I really want to unload my iPhone 4 and just keep a iPod Touch for times when I need those apps....
I plan on replacing my HTC Flyer with the Note myself. I currently use a iPhone 4, HTC Flyer w/pen and a 16gb Wifi iPad. I also have a touchpad, but that mostly sits in it's doc as a clock untill the android build gets to at least beta.
I had a 3g iPad when it came out, so I still have my unlimited plan. I canceled my contract with ATT and changed out my APK on my iPhone so I could run it with my unlimited data only SIM. With the Power of Google Voice and Jailbreak mods, I can use it as a normal phone with data only(talkatone and gv ext) Plus share the internet with my Flyer and wifi iPad that I got in a trade plus cash for my 3g ipad.
I see you can buy Galaxy Note's on ebay already(for a while now actually) but I'm hesitant at this point because I'm not sure my Unlimited data SIM will work in the device for data only. Plus, I'm not ready to go with-out hotspot capability, so I need to wait till we get a custom rom that lets us do that(if the stock ROM does not already have that built in). Plus, from what I understand, there is a chance that ATT may get it with LTE...and that would be worth starting another contract to me!(I doubt they would let me use my unlimited data sim on LTE...that would rock if I could do that!)
Holy crap I went off topic and rambled...
So yeah.
I have the note and an ipad, in my opinion the note will replace 99% of the tasks the ipad does. The larger screen is an issue when viewing media but for everything else the 1280x800 screen on the note is amazing. The pure quality of the samsung hd screen means I won't be looking for another tablet.
Once ice cream sandwich appears it will be the perfect device.
PS if size is the issue then yes it is a big bugger but. So am I.
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iBrummie said:
I have the note and an ipad, in my opinion the note will replace 99% of the tasks the ipad does. The larger screen is an issue when viewing media but for everything else the 1280x800 screen on the note is amazing. The pure quality of the samsung hd screen means I won't be looking for another tablet.
Once ice cream sandwich appears it will be the perfect device.
PS if size is the issue then yes it is a big bugger but. So am I.
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The only time I find I need my iPad is when I need to take notes with the larger on-screen keyboard. I don't see myself upgrading from my iPad 1 till they have the Retina Display. Till then it's only a way to share documents when I need a larger view.
I have replace a HTC Flyer to Note, the display is not much differance,
Don't understand why all Tablet have very big screen outside, make a big device but display is small.
Note is phone style, have a small screen outsides, so it totaly side is small enough for pocket when still keep big enough for display.
Note is all in one for my daily use
vuvan said:
I have replace a HTC Flyer to Note, the display is not much differance,
Don't understand why all Tablet have very big screen outside, make a big device but display is small.
Note is phone style, have a small screen outsides, so it totaly side is small enough for pocket when still keep big enough for display.
Note is all in one for my daily use
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Can the Note be used as a Hot-Spot?
ChodTheWacko said:
Bigger screens will always be better.
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I agree. That's why I would never bother with an ipad or the like.
I have a 26" and a 22" screen ganged in dual mode at home on my pc,
and my phone goes with me everywhere.
I've got no use for anything in between.
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vuvan said:
Note is all in one for my daily use
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Ditto.
ipads and tablets seem pointless to me.

Galaxy Tab 7.7 on the way

Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/
GaresTaylan said:
Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/
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Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?
Action B said:
Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?
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Pretty sure it's a dual-core 1.4ghz xynos.
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7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...
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7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...
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Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV
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Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV
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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!
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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!
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You're right, thanks! I forgot about the battery.
Quite right that there's always "something better" just around the corner. If one were to wait for the next best thing, one would never get anything I suspect. As long as whatever you gets does what you want, it's all good.
It's can be a crap-shoot on community support. Samsung devices have the reputation for quality hence usually a good following. That said, I believe that people who gravitate to forums like this tend to be more tech-centric than the majority of tab users. I do wonder though as I read several articles (trades and users) praising the 7+ but somewhat negative mentions about the price. I am curious just how high Android tabs will be able to fetch. Granted, it's my belief that even the $499 iPad is over priced by at least $100 but I wonder if the $400 price point might be the "sweet spot" for full-featured tabs regardless of size? I'm not a "gamer" so my power needs are modest.
This is my first Samsung tab and I am impressed. But so many screen size choices? Price and not so much screen size/features, I suspect, will drive many sales. Witness B&N and Amazon. I confess I am sure I'll be comparing at BB the 7.7 and other screens when it hits!
Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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Well we still don't know what the official prices are going to be, the sites that are offering pre-orders are pretty much just making up their own prices. I have heard however the official price in Australia will be $579 for the 16GB and $649 for the 32GB, and that's in AUD. Looking at the iPad 2 prices in AUD they are almost identical, and we don't know if these prices are for the WiFi or 3G/4G model, but I would suspect the 7.7 will be between $450-500 for the 16GB WiFi model in the US.
Can't wait to see it and compare it with my 7+. Size is my main concern, 7.7 is quite long and wider. If a device is too big, I cant really bring it out whenever I like. Not So useful and convenient like 7 inch tablet too. I once had a larger tablet and I almost left it everyday at my home, sold it at last. Anyway, 7.7 is worth waiting.
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Hi. Im new to this part of xda. And this is somewhat bothersome news as I just bought my plus today. First tablet in some time that made me think wow. I have an ipad now. Owned the Transformer and Dell Streak 5 and 7. I was going to wait until spring.g to see the new XOOM, ipad3, and TF Prime but decided after seeing this I thought this could last awhile before going down in price.
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I'm keeping my plus...
I don't think the upgrades from the 7.7 are worth it.
It will be really disappointing if we never get any good roms... But I'm mostly happy with root as it is.
Anyone who wants to sell The Galaxy Tab 7.7 can write me an PM! But I want it this year in Germany I would Pay 1000 Euros Cash!!!
I am very attracted to the 7.7 personally. Have an 8.9 that I'm planning on selling very soon. (Tegra 2 just plain sucks compared to Exynos frankly), and though it's a nice form factor, it's not for me. No phone calling ability is a big downer too; I like being able to swap my SIM card between my original Tab and phone depending on the situation.
Have the Note too, but not sure if I will keep it or not. Waiting to see what ICS will be like on it. Could be amazing, or could just be "meh." If it's not that much better, may sell my Note too and just stick to an SGS2/7.7 combo.
Then again, CES is right around the corner, so maybe it may be worth waiting longer still depending on what else may be coming out for 2012!
But oh that 7.7 sure looks nice... Damn, I'm such a consumer whore
My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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jollygoon said:
My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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Do you have a non wifi version? I got my 7+ yesterday and cant find a dialer on it
I am pickinmg my 7.7 wifi up tomorrow from **** Smith in Australia - can't wait, been wanting a tablet for ages. I had originally ordered a Transformer Prime until Amazon canceled the order. But this is the tablet I really wanted.
I don't know. I mean, I was planing to get the 7+ near the end of this month. I know that the screen and whatnot is better or the 7.7, but I seriously don't know if I would like the better screen or use the maybe bit more charge from it having a bigger battery to spend $200 more then what I was planing on spending.
I'm afraid that 7.7 might still have the Black stains/blotches on the screen, just like in S II. When viewing on dark room.
So no specific release date or price? If its not much more in price than the 7 plus and coming out fairly soon id like to return mine and wait for the 7.7

[Q] Selling my Galaxy Tab 7.7 for a Galaxy Note

I am selling my Galaxy Tab 7.7.
1. Its a little too big to fit nicely in my pockets (that extra .7 was the difference as the original Tab 7 fit better.
2. There is very little development going on for the 7.7
3. I have the international version bought off of Negri that does not have an IR blaster. This was actually a big selling point for me as I have a smart home system that is compatible with this.
I am going to switch to the Galaxy Note.
1. It will fit nicely in my pocket.
2. There are already several ICS Roms available for it.
3. No IR Blaster :-(
My question is how much is the International 7.7 selling for? More importantly what carriers is it compatible with? That is the most important question which carriers can use the 7.7 that I bought off of Negri?
You want some galaxy Note? Where do you live? Country?
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That's funny. I just bought a new 7.7 to go along WITH my Note. I love them both. I guess I'm just a sucker for AMOLED displays.
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I also have both, and if someone made me choose I'd lean towards keeping the Note over the 7.7. But, that's mainly because I have a new iPad at home.
Me too, i also have New ipad, Note and Thema 7.7
The only thing i found **** is The horryble scrolling in Facebook and dolphin Browser:-(
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The Galaxy Note is perfect for those people who just want or can only afford one device. The combination of the large high resolution screen and S-Pen allows it to work well as Tablet and it is portable enough to be used as a mobile phone. If I had to choose between the Note and 7.7 for my only device then I would get the Note.
I bought both and returned the note
This topic caught my eye as just today I returned the note after using it only for a week. I have had the galaxy tab 7.7 for 2 months now. I have the galaxy nexus as my phone.
The reason I decided to purchase the galaxy note:
1) Note taking
2) More portable yet bigger screen than most phones
What I liked during my trial:
1) Ability to write out my notes in the pen memo app
2) More portable than any other tablet
3) Display was quite good (yet not without fault, see below).
4) It was super fast in use. Apps seemed to install and launch much faster than any android device I have ever owned. The browser was silky smooth (apparently stick browser was optimized by samsung). No stutter or lag anywhere. Even with the same CPU, GPU and RAM specs galaxy tab 7.7 feels slower by a bit for the same tasks (due to honeycomb).
The reason I decided to return the galaxy note:
1) Black wallpaper when viewed in dark shows grey banding. This ruins the perception of the Super AMOLED display which is supposed to especially shine for black color due to infinite contrast. This has been widely reported. However I won't say that just this reason should sway you away from it, as the display otherwise is on par with the galaxy tab 7.7 although slightly less bright.
Galaxy tab 7.7 doesn't have this issue.
2) Galaxy note screen is big but not that much bigger than my galaxy nexus screen (5.3" vs. 4.65"). Screen feels small when compared to other tablets. Can't install tablet format of apps, so that negates the slightly larger screen.(There are ROMs available to make it act like a tablet, but you end up with faulty pen support and really small icons).
3) The micro-SD card slot access requires you to take out the battery. Galaxy tab 7.7 has an exposed slot which is very convenient.
I used galaxy note as a tablet (no SIM card) and decided that it didn't offer much beyond what my galaxy nexus already did screen space and app-wise although the pen functionality was extremely appealing. The smoothness and maturity of ICS was lacking and I didn't want to even risk losing the pen functionality by installing some custom ROMs.
Hope this helps with your decision.
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I also have both, and if someone made me choose I'd lean towards keeping the Note over the 7.7. But, that's mainly because I have a new iPad at home.
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I have an iPad as well which is my primary tablet. The Note is going to be my primary phone.
I've had both the 7.7 and Note (both International versions before their US counterparts were released).
I long for the day Samsung and VZW reach a deal on the Note or Note2.
I used straight talk for my Int'l Note and it was good, but I missed 4G speeds.
The thing I find with all my devices is I like development. I really should learn how b/c if a device doesn't have development I get bored quickly.
My razr is amazing so far even with it's locked bootloaders, but OMG the dev work on the Note is second to none it seems. (At least for the international version).
The Note, the longer I haven't had it the more I miss it. It was speedy, great support/development, and could double up as both a phone and tablet.
The 7.7 I haven't missed one bit since I sold it. It was a 6810 (wi-fi) and virtually no development going on at all for the 7.7, especially the wi-fi version. Secondly, it just didn't impress me the way the original Galaxy Tab or 10.1 did. <<<I contribute a lot of that to lack of development and being stuck with stock crappy honeycomb.
OP, I think you will be much happier with the Note than the 7.7, but that's just my opinion. I really miss mine but I just can't bring myself to give up two grandfathered unlimited data plans on VZW.
UPDATE: Verizon will be discontinuing the unlimitted plan for all
got556 said:
I've had both the 7.7 and Note (both International versions before their US counterparts were released).
I long for the day Samsung and VZW reach a deal on the Note or Note2.
I used straight talk for my Int'l Note and it was good, but I missed 4G speeds.
The thing I find with all my devices is I like development. I really should learn how b/c if a device doesn't have development I get bored quickly.
My razr is amazing so far even with it's locked bootloaders, but OMG the dev work on the Note is second to none it seems. (At least for the international version).
The Note, the longer I haven't had it the more I miss it. It was speedy, great support/development, and could double up as both a phone and tablet.
The 7.7 I haven't missed one bit since I sold it. It was a 6810 (wi-fi) and virtually no development going on at all for the 7.7, especially the wi-fi version. Secondly, it just didn't impress me the way the original Galaxy Tab or 10.1 did. <<<I contribute a lot of that to lack of development and being stuck with stock crappy honeycomb.
OP, I think you will be much happier with the Note than the 7.7, but that's just my opinion. I really miss mine but I just can't bring myself to give up two grandfathered unlimited data plans on VZW.
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I guess this news will change your plans:
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/17/verizon-clarifies-shared-data-plans/
Verzion will be cancelling the grandfathered unlimitted plans. The only way you will b e ablet to keep it is if you pay full price for all your phone upgrades or stay with the phone you currently have.
I have your same exact problem!!!
Galaxy tab 7 fits in back pockets while 7.7 dont... but i just think im not putting that in my pockets... that tab is really good! I love it.

New Galaxy tab s better than note 10.1 2014?

i was wondering if we leave alone the s pen feature , whether the newly launched galaxy tab s be a better option than the note 10.1 2014. ? in terms of screen , battery , performance etc.
I always prefer SuperAMOLED screen. (oversaturate color)
I think next Note Pro series will use SuperAMOLED display soon.
(CPU /RAM / GPU / Battery may be not much different) :silly:
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i was wondering if we leave alone the s pen feature
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People who "leave alone" S Pen probably shouldn't have bought a Note-series in the first place.
Whether the newly launched galaxy tab s be a better option than the note 10.1 2014?
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As a consumption device? Yes. Its display alone makes it a better consumption device. As a productivity device? Highly doubtful because of the many S Pen-related features unique to the Note-series. It comes with a pretty cool keyboard accessory which will be intriguing to people but also (as of now) only comes in a 16GB version which is a fail with 4.4's external SD card limitations (for the unrooted).
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The Tab S' aren't using S-801 (like the SGS5 they're patterned after) so it's highly likely their using the same h/w all Samsung's tablets starting with the N10.1-14 are using which mean S-800/Exynos 5420 (with HMP disabled) .That means outside whatever the display impacts it'll perform exactly the same as our device and the Pro's. Energy usage wise, AMOLED does better on blacks and LCD does better on whites. Our battery is larger at 8,220mAh vs. the Tab S' at 7,900mAh. For people that watch a lot of video the Tab S should last longer than the N10.1-14 with the opposite occuring on web browsing.
As for dimensions the Tab S is thinner and lighter. It's also bigger but you get a 1/2 inch more display area in the process. It has a lower PPI but it may not be PenTile so we'll have to see after it's reviewed how, outside being AMOLED, it holds up in comparison. I have a N3 and am constantly bouncing back-and-forth between its AMOLED display and my N10.1-14's LCD display. I'm fine with either.
Is it worth moving from a N10.1-14 to a Tab S? I guess that's an individual determination. I'd never give up S Pen so I have no interest in it. The 16GB limitation is also a turn-off. I do like everything else about it but wouldn't pay the difference on what I'd be able to sell my N10.1-14 for against it's purchase price for the display and other new features. To each their own.
Best Buy claims to have an exclusive 32gb edition for pre-order...
Samsung - Galaxy Tab S 10.5 - 32GB
I love my Note tablet and rarely use the pen!
Spec wise its a top android tablet, that you can also write on
...Although I do want to check this new out.
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i was wondering if we leave alone the s pen feature , whether the newly launched galaxy tab s be a better option than the note 10.1 2014. ? in terms of screen , battery , performance etc.
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Well leaving out the S-pen seems to make the question of "which is better" kind of an obvious answer. But regardless if you already own the N10.1 it's definitely not worth the upgrade. The specs are superior, but ever so slightly. And seriously what is with Samsung releasing a new line of tablets like every goddamn month? Weren't the Tab PROs supposed the be the flagship tablets of he first half of 2014? Now we have a summer line of flagships in the "S" line before we get the new Notes in the Fall? Not to mention the plethora of budget tablets they have too. This is starting to get ridiculous. Speaking of the Note though, that's the one you'll want to wait for if you're considering upgrading IMO. The next Note 4 phablet is rumored to have beastly specs (including the snapdragon 805) and since the Note version of the tablets are basically blown up versions of the phone, you can expect similar specs on those too.
If it's for a 2.7ghz SD805, 3-4gigs of RAM, a SuperAMOLED (possibly 4k?) display, and the small things like the charging port on the side, and the micro USB 3.0 port that our 2014 version is stupidly missing then it's worth the upgrade I guess.
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rkoforever90 said:
i was wondering if we leave alone the s pen feature , whether the newly launched galaxy tab s be a better option than the note 10.1 2014. ? in terms of screen , battery , performance etc.
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S-pen is the reason we bought Notes. Otherwise the Tab Pro would have been the way to go, and the S is just a slicker version of that with a better screen.
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People who "leave alone" S Pen probably shouldn't have bought a Note-series in the first place.
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Welllll ... that, like so many other things, is answered by "it depends".
I bought the OG Note 10.1 (N8000) grey-market 'cause of the features: AT&T-capable 3G WAN, 4 Exynos cores, 2GB RAM, Micro-SD expansion and a bright, 10" screen; in my case to get those features (that nobody else had at the time on any tablet easy to get in the US) I also got this "S-Pen" thing- which I used once or twice when I bought to try out, and never used it again.
So now comes the 2014 version, with a faster Snapdragon CPU, 3GB RAM, LTE on nearly every US carrier's band, 32GB of internal storage and expandable storage- couple that with T-Mobile US giving it to me for $0 down and 0% financing and a discount on data, and it was again a great deal for me- except this time I don't think I've even pulled the S-Pen out once
But I do know people with OG Note 10.1s that use their S-Pens quite often, even as an extension of their touch finger.
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Welllll ... that, like so many other things, is answered by "it depends".
I bought the OG Note 10.1 (N8000) grey-market 'cause of the features: AT&T-capable 3G WAN, 4 Exynos cores, 2GB RAM, Micro-SD expansion and a bright, 10" screen; in my case to get those features (that nobody else had at the time on any tablet easy to get in the US) I also got this "S-Pen" thing- which I used once or twice when I bought to try out, and never used it again.
So now comes the 2014 version, with a faster Snapdragon CPU, 3GB RAM, LTE on nearly every US carrier's band, 32GB of internal storage and expandable storage- couple that with T-Mobile US giving it to me for $0 down and 0% financing and a discount on data, and it was again a great deal for me- except this time I don't think I've even pulled the S-Pen out once
But I do know people with OG Note 10.1s that use their S-Pens quite often, even as an extension of their touch finger.
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Those are great niche examples where other features drove the decision. I'm getting a SM-P605M the next time I'm in Latin America to replace my 3G N10.1-14 so I can get LTE data and the phone features you gave up when you got a carrier N10.1-14. Just goes to show everyone has different needs and priorities.
The subject of this thread is about choosing between the Tab S and N10.1-14. For those without unique needs (like ours) and who have no need for S Pen it's pretty much a no brainer decision. It's only a matter of time before the U.S. carriers start selling the LTE version(s) so, without the dialer, folks wanting LTE without S Pen will have the same no brainer decision.
Once you start to use S-Pen and its very hard to change others devices without S-Pen. Even I rarely use S-Pen, but still I want a device with it and it can be very handy whenever I need it. :victory:
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... so I can get LTE data and the phone features you gave up when you got a carrier N10.1-14 .
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I can see where that could be a deal-breaker for some, but I ended up going from Straight Talk for my OG Note's service (which has talk and text) to an AT&T iPad data-only plan; while it was good to know that I had the ability to make calls, I just never used it (even when abroad- all my handsets are unlocked, and I'd just used those).
But I have hope that someone's going to find a way to allow the bootloader to modem down/side-grade the flash, then I'm all good, mostly so's I can say I have the feature, even if I don't use it
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But I have hope that someone's going to find a way to allow the bootloader to modem down/side-grade the flash, then
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No one could figure it out on previous gen 3/4G G-Tabs with unlocked bootloaders so it's a long shot.
I'm all good, mostly so's I can say I have the feature, even if I don't use it
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I had a 3G N10.1-12 too and am kind of hooked. Not that most here will care but here's some benefits I've found...
Talk time is like a month. I use my N10.1-14 for all my multi-hour conference calls just for battery security and to keep my phone alive for other routine calls.
It's great being able to have the phone function and S Note on one device when you're in a call. You don't have to fumble around with different devices to mute or conference other's in. In Pen Window the dialer can be made a pinhead so it's always available quickly.
Action memo works the same way it does on my N3 and the extra screen area of the N10.1-14 makes it more useful.
MMS is great with a keyboard and mouse; especially when setting up and sending group messages.
This stuff doesn't work without MMS and the dialer...

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