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Is it just me or does it seem like everyone and their mother are posting Roms in the Evo development subforum?
I'm not going to name names or anything, but there seem to be a few teams that work very hard at distinguishing themselves as great releases only to get overtaken by people launching derivatives that are not much more than wallpaper changes of the very same roms?
Many of us can tell the distinction between the two, but I worry about new folks coming in who have no idea. I'm not going to spread FUD, but installing roms from an untrustworthy source is a great way for real problems to be introduced into the security model of the Android platform.
Does anyone else see this as a concern? Are there any solutions we as a group can come up with? Is this really not a big deal?
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OMG I changed the color of the call [email protected]!!!!! NEW ROM!!!!!
Instead of theme change.
Either go cyanogen (uber premium) or stay rooted stock.
No need for the other bs. They don't do anything.
Now the kernels, I like, keep them going though. But the roms need to stop.
I think people are just making them in a sad attempt to gain free donations for their "efforts" or lack thereof.
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Either go cyanogen (uber premium) or stay rooted stock.
No need for the other bs. They don't do anything.
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so let me get this straight. you're automatically dismissing OMJ's work, Baked Snack, Fresh, Damage Control, etc. just to name a few, simply because they are not cyanogen? better at ease son.
secondly, you can't simply lock down the forum for the "legendary" cooks. what happens if a noobie comes in with a simply stellar rom that gives us 12 years of battery life and the ability to teleport but because he's not Cyanogen, he can't release? that seems a little asinine.
i think people need to be responsible for their own phones. research, do a little leg work, talk with some forum members, make an informed decision and go with it.
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so let me get this straight. you're automatically dismissing OMJ's work, Baked Snack, Fresh, Damage Control, etc. just to name a few, simply because they are not cyanogen? better at ease son.
secondly, you can't simply lock down the forum for the "legendary" cooks. what happens if a noobie comes in with a simply stellar rom that gives us 12 years of battery life and the ability to teleport but because he's not Cyanogen, he can't release? that seems a little asinine.
i think people need to be responsible for their own phones. research, do a little leg work, talk with some forum members, make an informed decision and go with it.
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Nice way of twisting what I said. BTW...
Nice upoad speed dude 44mb
I'm still a relative newb to Android, but I can see how it would be easy to get overloaded with all the ROMs out there. I've bounced back and forth between Fresh, CM6, and rooted stock for a while and I finally got sick of having to set up my phone over and over again (yes, I know about Titanium, but it's not good for certain types of things). Anyway, I finally said f*** it and flashed CM6 again and have left it there. None of them are perfect, but CM6 works the best for me.
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Nice way of twisting what I said. BTW...
Nice upoad speed dude 44mb
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Less twisting then what you think. It's not CM or stay stock. I personally ran CM nightlies and CM6, both times I left them because even with all the fine work he's done there are very large and blatant things I don't think are great about it.
Does that mean it's low end, no, but there are lots of Roms every bit as highend and polished as CM.
Now on the main OP, I agree that we are seeing a flood, but also that there is nothing to do about it in an open community which is pushing people to tweak and express and share. It is what it is, and if they aren't calling out the people who put in the actual time into said Rom and giving them all the praise for the actual work then shame on them.
One way to help new users do research, is if there was a chart comparing the more popular roms... o wait there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
pretty unbiased test that compares several features that most people would look for in a rom.
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One way to help new users do research, is if there was a chart comparing the more popular roms... o wait there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
pretty unbiased test that compares several features that most people would look for in a rom.
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Neif, you crack me up whenever I see you pushing your grid. I've been dircting people to the wiki to check it out, but good luck trying to stay on top of all of the new releases. More power to you.
And to bring the thread back on topic - there do seem to be a lot of roms floating around that don't really seem to bring anything new to the table.
People are just posting what works for them. I am glad there are so many ROMs. If you think this is bad, I guess you never had a G1.
This really isnt something I'd be complaining about. Check out SDX forums (Moment support). Theres like one rom still receiving updates. The Hero forum is also losing support. Im more than happy to see people pushing a rom they cooked. It means the kitchens out there are actually getting used for the reason they were made available. Imo thats what open source is all about. If you dont trust it, dont flash it. Its that simple.
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This really isnt something I'd be complaining about. Check out SDX forums (Moment support). Theres like one rom still receiving updates. The Hero forum is also losing support. Im more than happy to see people pushing a rom they cooked. It means the kitchens out there are actually getting used for the reason they were made available. Imo thats what open source is all about. If you dont trust it, dont flash it. Its that simple.
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I also love that the kitchens are being used - I'm dying to try one myself. I don't think its a trust issue though, I think its that some of these roms don't bring anything unique to the table, other than some theming and the removal of some apps.
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I do wish there was a subforum in the dev forum for roms. Perhaps a sticky's for the top 10 roms based on votes or downloads or some other type of ranking system.
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I also love that the kitchens are being used - I'm dying to try one myself. I don't think its a trust issue though, I think its that some of these roms don't bring anything unique to the table, other than some theming and the removal of some apps.
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dsixda's kitchen has pretty much everything you need. I installed Ubuntu in Virtual Machine and have started messing around, but unless you know what to and not to change, there isnt alot you can do to make the rom unique. But its worth doing if you're interested in learning about rom development.
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I've been looking at cooking my own rom but the thing is I would not only give credit where credit is due but also call it what it is.
I may come up with the perfect setup of base rom, kernal, apps, theme and just want to share with people who maybe like me are looking for that specific setup.
Easier to flash a rom with all that baked in then flashing everything individually. As long as someone credits correctly and doesn't try and say they did it all themselves why does it matter if it's documented properly.
Doesn't make it a worthless rom just makes it a colaboration of great work.
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I've been looking at cooking my own rom but the thing is I would not only give credit where credit is due but also call it what it is.
I may come up with the perfect setup of base rom, kernal, apps, theme and just want to share with people who maybe like me are looking for that specific setup.
Easier to flash a rom with all that baked in then flashing everything individually. As long as someone credits correctly and doesn't try and say they did it all themselves why does it matter if it's documented properly.
Doesn't make it a worthless rom just makes it a colaboration of great work.
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Its not a question of worth, simply a question of signal to noise.
I've run DC, Cal's, Netarchy's, Baked, Fresh, CM, Nightlies, and probably ecen a few others...I still think some sort of metric is required.
I'm gonna try thinking of something.
First I think we should be happy the evo has a strong community. We may even lose some with the galaxy s phones coming out.
Next a agree many aren't much of a difference, but for those that don't have time to tweak stuff in the kitchen before installing, it is nice to find exactly what you want.
Finally I'm sorry to sound like an elitist, but this is a hackers forum. There shouldn't be such an expectation of things always being safe and working.
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Its not a question of worth, simply a question of signal to noise.
I've run DC, Cal's, Netarchy's, Baked, Fresh, CM, Nightlies, and probably ecen a few others...I still think some sort of metric is required.
I'm gonna try thinking of something.
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I do agree there are a lot out there and it can be tough for people to tell what is what. I don't think it's a bad thing though, device support is good, it means that hopefully things will be running for a long time to come.
I love all these "What doesn't work..." ROMS. LOVE IT! Thanks DEVS/ROM DEVS
So don't use them?
Oh i don't. Couldn't, they are not full roms, incomplete
Well they are just trying to bring that new experience to everyone else. One of the most popular roms for our phone doesnt have 4g or hdmi working, and the ported roms dont have those working + camera not working. It really aint that bad. If you can put up with Cyanogenmod, then you can put up with the other ports.
Cyanogenmod and the ports are all pretty much faster than the stock roms too, so there's a huge plus side right there.
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I love all these "What doesn't work..." ROMS. LOVE IT! Thanks DEVS/ROM DEVS
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First go read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814274
Second when you develop YOUR Desire HD ROM let us know we are dieing for a full working version.
Sorry that the ROMs that are incomplete have put you out. Maybe you should flash stock everything works on it.
Also please try to refrain from post more brainless topics.
i have a full rom that actually works and for people that like partial roms, these "what doesn't work" things will do fine. I like functionality
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i have a full rom that actually works and for people that like partial roms, these "what doesn't work" things will do fine. I like functionality
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I don't know what your talking about the only ROMs that are incomplete are the HD Desire ROMs. ALL of the other ROMs should be complete. I know my ROM is or at least as far as I know it is. You are not everyone, some people don't use the camera and don't live in a 4G area (most of us). So the HD Desire ROMs appeal to them. Quite thinking about yourself for a moment.
Also those "incomplete" desire roms give people like me a chance to star developing new ROMs using it as a base. SO when the camera is fixed we will be ready to rock. I'm sure THAT would be fine with you.
The world is full of other people.. just letting you know.
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i have a full rom that actually works and for people that like partial roms, these "what doesn't work" things will do fine. I like functionality
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I am guessing the new ROM your using had everything from the beginning? Camera worked perfect, 4G worked perfect, HDMI worked perfect, no bugs what-so-ever? It doesn't have Sense does it...hopefully not...
Can I know the name of this Rom, if so? And I am guessing its made by you, because who would be stupid enough to bad mouth other people's work that they have done for FREE and because they enjoy it and want to share it with the rest of us.
I really think you should go elsewhere, and stay off XDA. As this site is about helping people, not bad mouthing what these people are doing for us because they want to.
Thanks.
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I love all these "What doesn't work..." ROMS. LOVE IT! Thanks DEVS/ROM DEVS
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What does this post contribute? Nothing. Does it serve a point other than to express your self-valued opinion? No.
gtfo
Look at these so called roms. They have lists of important features that "aren't working". They keep adding useless apps and call it a new version. Pathetic
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Ok so what do you suggest? Maybe the rom DEVELOPERS, key word devolpers, should hold out on these roms until its completely functional and not give anyone the chance to DEVELOP them and test for bugs and issues? Im sorry but did Apple release a fully working OS for Iphone? Or did Verizon release a fully working Droid rom, or Sprint a fully working EVO rom? Maybe had these companies release fully working products then XDA and custom roms wouldnt exist. The roms are created to give users a better product and make them work the way they should have out of the box. Cyanogen started a 2.2 rom for the hero that had items that didnt work at first but through testing releases and community feedback they got it completely working.
Id like a copy of YOUR completely working rom. Id like to run it for a week and prove theres not a single issue what so ever.
The developers clearly state that its an incomplete rom if theres items not working and clearly tell you what isnt working. They do this to give you the option to test with them or to stay away.
Your post, and Im sure you know this, is the exact reason developers have left here. Maybe you should create your own site, develop your own roms, and forget XDA. Had it not been for here my 3 previous phones and this one would be in the trash because of HTC and Sprints crap software that gave horrible battery life.
Thanks to Fresh's rom Im at 18h 21m and 40% battery left. On Sprints crap I was dead 8 hours. Ill gladly take a developmental rom to get that kind of battery, especially since I havent found anything not working.
Oh get off their nuts. Its been months. You test fully functioning software with bugs and glitches....NOT part of an OS and call it testing. The functions AREN'T there to test
Actually slick, you test the working parts of the rom while developers complete the parts that arent working and release update when their fixed. Have you never been part of a beta community or testing in general? Game developers (Infinity Ward for example) do this before every release. Call of Duty is a prime example. They release partially finished products then finish the remaining aspects.
So how about your rom? It sounds like its the best one ever made.
Actually ****, there is nothing to test. Its "what doesn't work" action. Say your only about partial. Typical simp
Get back to work kiesha
Ok, your right and I apologize for questioning your abilities as a developer and thinking you actually were as impaired as your posts make you seem. I guess its time to go back to Sprints stock rom and deal with the inability to put out a quality product that doesnt need further developing.
I look forward to the masterpiece youve created and hopefully soon it will be released to show the world what a dominating force you are in the development world.
And no, there is absolutely no sarcasm in this post at all, you really are my hero...
Another ungrateful person who complains when things don't happen the way they think it should posting another pointless thread that is meant to stir **** up.
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Thank you. Finally you guys see. Im glad people can admit when they are looking at things wrong
Ungrateful is using or having something and not appreciating it. I dont use those junkies
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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yes...so why not starting today...make a ROM urself ???
We are all waiting for .35 desire kernel source from HTC?
Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl,
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No, that is because there are less top devs on the device now, Some have moved on to different devices.
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we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such.
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Not at all, ist do to with view counts, posts created etc.
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Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues,
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What you "need" has nothing to do with it, devs dont work on the roms because they have to, They do it because they WANT to, They work on what they "need" or want to and then share the work.
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and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know,
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Correct.
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but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...
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Completely disagree, The work and progress done on the Sense 3 roms is amazing, Sorry you are too ignorant and ungrateful to appreciate that.
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I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works,
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Then go and download one of the older non-sense froyo/GB roms like NexusHD2.
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just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead.
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Well that's your problem, The fact that you are having to do this means that you are CHOOSING to install work in progress builds rather then more developed builds, Its your fault and your problem.
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The roms used to work 100%,
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Err no they didn't, They was developed into a state where they eventually worked and the same will happen to Sense roms.
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but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round.
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Then go download one?!?!
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And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing!
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sense Roms where never designed to run on HD2 and that is why they are been developed to do so! If you don't want to be patient or be part of the testing then that's your choice, go and download a simple stock rom!
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And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Desire base has been ported already and doesn't need more work until the desire gets and update. If you like the desire base so much why don't you just stick to the roms already available? Ill tell you why because you enjoy trying new builds, again that's your decision but you cant then complain just because most of the devs are hard at work on what THEY want to work on rather then what YOU want them to work on!
I personally don't want them to work on anything else apart from the kingdom, why? because its down to personal preference just like yours, at the end of the day its upto each individual dev what they work on!
PS. Please go and learn how to use paragraphs and sentence breaks etc as it just gets on your nerves when trying to read big long blocks like that.
ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on
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ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on
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Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.
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Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.
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Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.
Playing the devil here:
At some point I can understand Peteryoung and I have seen several other people complain about this as well.
I have the HD2 just to toy around next to my E71 which makes it easy to say that I don't need a +90% working image. If something doesn't work tough ... and I will try another.
It would be nice to have the old trusty working roms like the one from Rafdroid updated to the latest working apps and all of the known fixes in 1 package.
I'm no developer but I am sure some of you could tweak the 'older' sense roms and incorperate all the latest working things. The GPS fixes are a nice example.
I personally applaud the devs in that thread for feedback and just trying to get it to work using feedback and interacting on it.
If the devs are focusing on newer type of roms, so be it and let them do it.
Lets face it, Android is fun on the HD2 but still it is a bit 'playing' around.
A retraction
Guys, I'm sorry
I think I was having a right cranky day when I penned that last grouchy missive.
I stand thoroughly ashamed and rightfully corrected on my last thoughts.
I really do appreciate all the work the devs put in for free here. I really do love the older desire roms and I guess I'm getting old, starting to refuse the changes of the times
I take it all back, I guess I really should stick to what I know best and let the youngsters do what they do best...making NEW stuff, not old.
I must say, I feel a little aggrieved at the sheer vitriol my post gained in response, but hey I guess after I'd battered everybody else with my tirade - that's just what I deserve.
Anyway, I hope the community can find it in their collective hearts to forgive this old sinner - I promise I won't write any more critical tirades on xda any more!
Apologies xda, I love you really xx
Peteryoung
P.S - Was the paragraph structure a little easier on the eye this time round?
Some just are not happy with ****...hey, you don't like it, move on back to WM6.5 where everything works. This is not a native android device so be lucky these developers are spending hours and days and more hours and more days so whiney ass spoiled brats like you can use their work for FREE. Be lucky you can even have ANDROID on the HD2! Another thing is there are plenty of what I consider perfect roms to choose from and many I have donated too.
Your apology is a joke you are still just acting like a *****...man up and get over yourself....
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Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.
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Exactly
we are at liberty to choose any rom available here irrespective of the development progress
it is fun to flash...Ah, I miss old time when I had to flash ROM 2-3 times a week
Cheers...
Anyone could make a pacman rom or jellybam rom? for our nexus 4 ?
it would be really appreciated , now i know i have asked about pacman but how about jellybam ??
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Anyone could make a pacman rom or jellybam rom? for our nexus 4 ?
it would be really appreciated , now i know i have asked about pacman but how about jellybam ??
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lets be patient and wait for the developers to cook em
we are not allowed to ask for ETAs or requests on XDA. but otherwise, just my 2 cents that atleast JellyBAM will be here without much ado considering its on Galaxy Nexus too. im sure its just that the dev couldnt get hands on a Nexus 4 yet
i guess i shouldnt even write, but boy, i hope it takes them a while. when a new nexus comes out i always enjoy how sane and nice everything is. users friendly. roms fresh. no bull****. and mashup roms are probably amongst the worst things that xda can offer, its pretty much the 9th circle of rom hell. : P
seriously, the conflicts between these three roms, which are different and follow different strategies, are so vast that its getting dangerous. we pulled out completely, mostly because we fear retribution from google which does not take app breaking lightly. the way i see it, what they do abuses our work in the worst way possible. this is not cherry-picking or kanging, this is rom raping and the laziest most uninspired and unoriginal dev work i can imagine. not sure if aokp and cm agree but thats our impression.
its xda, things are open source and all, you do what you want but im telling you, you miss out badly. each of these three projects gives you so much more, if consistency and love for detail is something you value, that is. sorry for the rant, couldnt resist.
well played, moles well played
konfuzed said:
well played, moles well played
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i know i should just shut my mouth, it just doesn't listen to me.
hi every one
i would like to open a thread about reviews on custom roms on ARC S
reviews made as ORDINARY USER
it is just about how you think of your device AFTER a custom rom
what you like or dislike.....
what you miss or need and didn't found ....(no need to tell how and what you do , because that's another subject)
NO NEED to post Q or BUGS or HOW TO or REQUESTS or DEEP DEVELOPER details JUST....USER OPINION!!!
AND please give credits to the developers of the ROMS by posting links to threads you found the custom rom in.
Starting form here:
Arc S with rooted GB (LT18i 4.0.2.A.0.62) and CWM installed
AtoMic GB 5.0 final (custom rom)
AtoMic Gb 5.0 Arc S patch!
Atomic mod system ui
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2083286
-device working fine no lags or errors ..until now
-installing apps &games and they are working good for me
-no file manager pre-installed
-don't like ring tones
my overall opinion it is GOOD rom to try!!!:good::good:
You should use the respective Rom threads to post reveiws about romS!
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allright if everyone wants it
Well I think it's a good idea for a thread that could help people in finding ROM's with features they are looking for. I dislike posting off topic so here I go:
CyanogenMod 10
+Clean
+Stable
+Fast
+Not as bloated as stock ICS
+JB notifications are useful
+Supported and actively developed
+Open source
-Camera is awful
-Ringtones could be better but who really cares?
Oh and don't take XtremeSilencer seriously he's not so bright...
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Well I think it's a good idea for a thread that could help people in finding ROM's with features they are looking for. I dislike posting off topic so here I go:
CyanogenMod 10
+Clean
+Stable
+Fast
+Not as bloated as stock ICS
+JB notifications are useful
+Supported and actively developed
+Open source
-Camera is awful
-Ringtones could be better but who really cares?
Oh and don't take XtremeSilencer seriously he's not so bright...
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i dont know why you want to pick up fights with everyone?
ya right i forgot.. you dont belong here
pypcier said:
Well I think it's a good idea for a thread that could help people in finding ROM's with features they are looking for.
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The way People can find what they're looking for is by reading the ROM threads in the development section, not by reading noobs opinions on one of the many variations of a "best ROM" thread, which this is, evident by the short summary of what the OP thinks about the ROM.
I can't agree more. Which ROM is the fastest? Which kernel is best? etc. etc. It's like walking into a bar and asking which drink is the best. You can't get your answer because every person around has a personal taste and looking for something different.
Going further. Telling that one ROM is better than another is quite disrespectful to developers. Most of them spent much time making their work for FREE and one guy can easily depreciate their work.
If you're looking for answer - try. It's easy and making it on your own is much funnier than looking for spoon feeding in every situations. Thinking is fun
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Oh and don't take XtremeSilencer seriously he's not so bright...
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Their signature shows they're a bit brighter, and bigger contributor than you're ever going to be.
Sorry ,,i try 3 or 4 rom,,,i think rom ULTIMATE HD 3.0.2 FROM JADDER IS BATTER,,,you must try it,,
Sent from my LT18i using xda app-developers app
syahipul said:
Sorry ,,i try 3 or 4 rom,,,i think rom ULTIMATE HD 3.0.2 FROM JADDER IS BATTER,,,you must try it,,
Sent from my LT18i using xda app-developers app
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I can't see this as valid review, because every user is different and every user has its own needs. 2 people will not have totally same user experience on same ROM and kernel.
XtremeSilencer said:
You should use the respective Rom threads to post reveiws about romS!
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yes if we want to review a SPECEFIC ROM .This thread is about USER OPINIO about the custom Rom they tried...and any comments about that OPINION is welcomed
syahipul said:
Sorry ,,i try 3 or 4 rom,,,i think rom ULTIMATE HD 3.0.2 FROM JADDER IS BATTER,,,you must try it,,
Sent from my LT18i using xda app-developers app
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Need to know why it's better for you and why the others are not....
XperienceD said:
The wanoon pikople can find what they're looking for is by reading the ROM threads in the development section, not by reading noobs opinions on one of the many variations of a "best ROM" thread, which this is, evident by the short summary of what the OP thinks about the ROM.
Their signature shows they're a bit brighter, and bigger contributor than you're ever going to be.
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No need to turn the thread into (picking on noobs)thread it's about USER OPINIONS NOOBS OR NON-NOOBS
No need mock or disrespect commenters just because YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAN THEM
No need to tell any one where or how to find ROMS
As long as no forum rules is broken :
Don't tell any one what and what not to say
Don't turn commenting into PERSONAL.
And last thing;
IAM A NOOB AND NOOBS ARE WELCOME TO FEEL FREE AND SHARE COMMENTS here on this thread.....Cause that's what this forum is all about SHARE...FREE..COMMENTS
Wrong. XDA is a developers' site. If you're a noob, then make yourself not one, or leave
Sent from my LT18i using xda premium
Actually I have an Ultimate HD of course, with Ultimate HD Mod and I like it very much.
+almost no lags
+xperia z theme
+modded statusbar (better than stock, I think)
+configurable
+quite frequent updates
-few useless system apps
Grade: 5,5 (in Poland we have grading scale from 2-5 at universities )
Previously I had used several other ROM`s, for example Viper Xpieria (good, 4,5-5), Racing Bean (not so good, 3-3,5), CyanogenMod 10 (good, 4), MIUI (good, 4), Jelly Sandwich (very good, 5, but it`s no longer developed I think) and CAMPS+ (bad, 2,5-3).
So to sum up, in my opinion the best ROM actually is Ultimate HD + Ultimate HD Mod, cause of no lagging, stability, and almost no bugs.
I've been using Custom ROMs for about 6 months. So, didn't try too many of them. The reason why I switched to custom ROM was Sony Bloatware and the slowness of official ICS ROM. What I was looking for was more internal space and get the phone up to GB speeds.
First try was CM9.
+ Easy to install, best documentation out there,
+ Good customization options,
+ Frees up load of memory,
+ The GUI doesn't lag too much
+ Fast boot-up.
- Apollo player (hated it and due to regional issues, I couldn't install Google Music),
- WiFi issues
Next I tried racing bean with Fusion 4.4
+ The GUI is much more fluid than anything I tried on my Arc,
+ Customization is on the same level as CM9,
+ Same internal storage usage as CM9,
+ Includes good players/utilities,
+ Battery life didn't shorten despite the fact that the phone became more fluid and responsive,
+ WiFi locks very fast and stable,
+ No issues with 3G,
- There are 3 camera programs included. The panaroma one doesn't even launch (force close immediately). The other two are definitely below the Sony's original camera application,
- The kernel boot takes forever. I see the Fusion logo for about 40 seconds. Once the Nexus animation starts, the boot-up goes very fast. I get the feeling that the Fusion kernel is waiting for a timeout,
- The phone reboots occasionally. Especially when GPS is used (like with dedicated navigation programs). I think when the phone is under heavy load (you feel that the GUI starts stuttering and lag becomes apparent) almost immediately the Nexus X logo comes up.
I heard good things about the Ultimate HD ROM. Will try that one once I get some free time.
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yes if we want to review a SPECEFIC ROM .This thread is about USER OPINIO about the custom Rom they tried...and any comments about that OPINION is welcomed
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Each user will have different experience with each ROM. So an opinion from a certain user about a certain ROM may differ from another user. The only way to truly find the best ROM for your phone is to try it out.
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tangosierra_ said:
Wrong. XDA is a developers' site. If you're a noob, then make yourself not one, or leave
Sent from my LT18i using xda premium
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i know XDA is a developers' site it's on the TITLE..... but leaving is another thing,when i breaks a forum rule i think i will be forced to leave till that happen(if it could ever) i think i will STAY. after all WRONG or WRIHT depends on where you STAND and WHAT you are tallking about.
The NOOB-thing:
if the site admins don't LIKE noobs or don't WANT them to post they coud have made subuscrition rule that ANY ONE shoud POST some thing he actually DEVEOPED before posting
AND for GOD'S sake don't keep on posting anti-noobs or NO-use comments here...if you want it to die just wait for it....don't bother to replay..you'll just make it last longer!!!!
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Each user will have different experience with each ROM. So an opinion from a certain user about a certain ROM may differ from another user. The only way to truly find the best ROM for your phone is to try it out.
僕のLT18iから送られてきた
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and that different experience we would like to share and not HOW to find BEST ROM
babkir said:
and that different experience we would like to share and not HOW to find BEST ROM
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u should try by yourself. believe me buddy, its fun if you try by youself. This is not about how you install something that is inserted into your device, and you show people that you mostly have advanced technology. more than that comrade ... it's about development.
respect those who have tried to create a custom ROM and share it here...
X-gamer is SUPER FAST!!!
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Stupid Macbook Air can't fly
good room and very flixable but have 2 prob power sever axperia arc s 4.0.4 and restart phone
Best ROM's for Arc S (Stable only)
Well I don't have 10 post under my belt so I can not post on developer thread but am a hyper droid flasher. Rooted my phone the very next day and voided its warranty. Since then have used many many ROMs but only few are there to remember.
Let me just go by Droid OS versions:
1. ICS 4.0.4= Pureness ROMS, VIPER
2. JB 4.1.2 = Slim bean or Super JB
3. JB 4.2.2 = Paranod Android v3.6 (Rizal Lovins) My current ROM