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Thanks gbhil. Your works have been incredibly appreciated.

http://forum.androidcentral.com/54888-post215.html
Reposted from Android Central (link above):
Guys and Gals -
First off, I had a read through and I'm glad for you all that it looks like you might get a working camera with the 2.1 leak. Congratulations to whomever figured it out.
Now on to the not so good news. This morning I received an email from the developer of a popular market application. It seems that someone has put out a ROM full of stolen software, and associated my name with it, as they took the boot image from one of my ROMS and called it their own. This developer and I have squared things away, so no harm no foul on my end.
It does leave me in a dilemma. Rather than have my name tossed in to a mix like this again, I've decided that I'm finished developing for the Hero. Enjoy the work, I won't take it down, and if I can get Google Earth and Nexus one wallpapers working a bit better (yes I have it loading and running, but it locks the system up after 30 seconds or so) I'll pass that fix to the few people here who have helped out so that they can package it up in any way they like.
The person responsible (and I won't name names - they know who they are, and the work they put out with my name attached isn't hard to find) has really soured me. I have been an open source developer for almost 20 years, and am very happy that the carrier I use for cellular service finally released a (mostly) open source operating system for me to play with. The way I see it this leaves me with two choices:
1. - Stop releasing work that others can use in any way they like
2. - Stop developing altogether for the Hero.
I chose number 2. There is already enough closed development and a "I'm first" mindset. That also goes against everything I believe in, so it's not an option. Bundling my name with software piracy and IP theft is not an option either. I will not let this happen again.
Keep the flames and ignorant comments to yourself please. I've thought about this all day, and this is my decision. I'll always be available to help others in any way I can, but I won't be publishing any more work. Rather then wasting time and energy to tell me how wrong I am, please use that effort to congratulate the individual who has placed me in this position. Sorry, but it is what it is.
Jerry.
03/06/2010
20:52

Thanks for all your help and support.

drink water move on...
You can't let one person mess something up for everyone else...That's not right.

please name the rom, that way some of us can boycott that rom..
shouldn't let this one person stop you from doing what you love to do though...
gbhil ..you've done a great job with the kernel + hack ..your work is very respected around here..do not go...

Gbhil didnt mention it. Dont know if he will.

oh damn that sucks im digging your roms i hate to see you go !
id love to know the rom that your talking about
i hope change your mind and stick around

well chances are he will wont be changing his mind any time soon well lets look at the roms there are
flipz-him and cghil have done alot of work together
theres
darch- who gbhil has helped out a bit and he doenst have alot of software on there thats not allowed
Aloysius 1.0 ROM - dont know alot about this rom anyone know about this rom.
[ROM] Souffle 1.2- same as above
and there can be more roms else were but those what i have seen here
not trying to get flamed here but who knows im trying to figure this out like you guys

icm714 said:
well chances are he will wont be changing his mind any time soon well lets look at the roms there are
flipz-him and cghil have done alot of work together
theres
darch- who gbhil has helped out a bit and he doenst have alot of software on there thats not allowed
Aloysius 1.0 ROM - dont know alot about this rom anyone know about this rom.
[ROM] Souffle 1.2- same as above
and there can be more roms else were but those what i have seen here
not trying to get flamed here but who knows im trying to figure this out like you guys
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Don't forget BIKCMP with the Pancake rom, but he seems to be respectable too IMO. I don't think I've seen a rom yet that doesn't incorporate at the least Gbhils custom memory killer kernel.

Thanks for your work!
Aaaaand ill bite my tongue regarding badmouthery. Jerkasses ruin everything !

robchaos said:
Don't forget Pancake. In fact I don't think I've seen a rom yet that doesn't incorporate at the least his custom memory killer kernel.
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yeah they all do but who uses his boot screen is the question so if we can pin point that we can go from there i know flipz has his own, and darch did a custom one any one know gumbos boot screen

yea but most if not all of them are pretty much software free

icm714 said:
well chances are he will wont be changing his mind any time soon well lets look at the roms there are
flipz-him and cghil have done alot of work together
theres
darch- who gbhil has helped out a bit and he doenst have alot of software on there thats not allowed
Aloysius 1.0 ROM - dont know alot about this rom anyone know about this rom.
[ROM] Souffle 1.2- same as above
and there can be more roms else were but those what i have seen here
not trying to get flamed here but who knows im trying to figure this out like you guys
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don't forget about the pancake rom that's based off of gb's kernel. btw thanks for your hard work, sad to see you go.

Thank you
Well, first lets thank gbhil for his effort, time, and work that he's put into helping us develop.
His guidance has helped almost every project associated with the CDMA Hero.
You will be missed.
That being said, let us not take this as setback. Use it as inspiration to get your own hands dirty. There's no better time than now to learn the trade.
And please, don't go on a witchhunt to attempt to bring this person to "justice." It puts the entire community into a bad light, something that a lot of us don't want.

HEY GBHIL dont leave f00, ur roms rox my sox in a box of rox. i was using flipz old 2.1 rom (before droid eris leak) and then i switched to ur droid eris leak remake or w/e and i was like AMAGADZ its so 1337 and fast. it's almost like the hero isnt a crappy slow 524mhz processor with ur rom. let us know the dev's ip who put the pirated stuff up so we can pwnz his comput0r with 1337 hax0rz

Decad3nce said:
Well, first lets thank gbhil for his effort, time, and work that he's put into helping us develop.
His guidance has helped almost every project associated with the CDMA Hero.
You will be missed.
That being said, let us not take this as setback. Use it as inspiration to get your own hands dirty. There's no better time than now to learn the trade.
And please, don't go on a witchhunt to attempt to bring this person to "justice." It puts the entire community into a bad light, something that a lot of us don't want.
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from what i have learned here ppc and android central i have started tweaking roms to my liking i will soon start to learn how to build a rom of from leaked dumps

He'll def be missed.
Is GDE a paid app?

Aloysius 1.0 ROM comes with GDE, a paid market app........... It uses gbhils kernel
I apperciated your work gbhil, and I understand your postion

icm714 said:
yeah they all do but who uses his boot screen is the question so if we can pin point that we can go from there i know flipz has his own, and darch did a custom one any one know gumbos boot screen
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I think when he says boot image he might mean the actual boot.img of his roms. That has to be modified for his kernel to work in the first place, so everything out there incorporating his work has in some way used it.

auxny said:
HEY GBHIL dont leave f00, ur roms rox my sox in a box of rox. i was using flipz old 2.1 rom (before droid eris leak) and then i switched to ur droid eris leak remake or w/e and i was like AMAGADZ its so 1337 and fast. it's almost like the hero isnt a crappy slow 524mhz processor with ur rom. let us know the dev's ip who put the pirated stuff up so we can pwnz his comput0r with 1337 hax0rz
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can you speak english please.

I'm speaking the interwebz version of english, thank you very much

Greatest Rom

So with all the Roms that we have available today for the Droid Eris, which one is the best in every way? Even though very few people im sure have got a chance to try each and every Eris ROM. Give us some input.
Thanks

no such thing as the greatest rom. what I think is the answer, someone else might not agree. now me personally, i like the vanilla/cyanogen roms. currently running celb

I have always been a fan of any ROM done by framework. His work ethic is good and he is responsive to input. He has sensless, Evil Eris, and CyanEris. Right now, however, he is working through some small tweaks that promise to be great when fixed and repackaged into a single ROM again. That said I have recently been on ErisLightningBolt Cyan and it is phenomenal! This is a cyanogen ported ROM that conap is kicking butt on making. With 2.4 it is now extremely stable and EVERYTHING works, except for mms outgoing. It runs smooth, snappy, and cool. It also has the best battery life of the cyanogen ROMs avail right now IMO. As far as non cyan I also loved Aloysius 2.0 Snow. Again another extremely stable rom that everything just works without having to mess with a bunch of crap.

n2imagination said:
I have always been a fan of any ROM done by framework. His work ethic is good and he is responsive to input. He has sensless, Evil Eris, and CyanEris. Right now, however, he is working through some small tweaks that promise to be great when fixed and repackaged into a single ROM again. That said I have recently been on ErisLightningBolt Cyan and it is phenomenal!
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+1 on that! Framework's stuff is always good... he's been a little busy recently, but he's always good with "finishing" his projects!
on top of that... i'm a "no-sense" (literally... lol) kinda guy. i LOVE the Cyanogen ErisLightingBolt release. and, i ALWAYS have a NAND of Tainted Vanilla handy. it WAS my ONLY daily ROM and everything "just worked" with it (super fast and smooth). but man... CELB2.4 is sweet!
however, you'll just have to see what you prefer... and try a few out. that's what i had to do!

n2imagination said:
I have always been a fan of any ROM done by framework. His work ethic is good and he is responsive to input. He has sensless, Evil Eris, and CyanEris. Right now, however, he is working through some small tweaks that promise to be great when fixed and repackaged into a single ROM again. That said I have recently been on ErisLightningBolt Cyan and it is phenomenal! This is a cyanogen ported ROM that conap is kicking butt on making. With 2.4 it is now extremely stable and EVERYTHING works, except for mms outgoing. It runs smooth, snappy, and cool. It also has the best battery life of the cyanogen ROMs avail right now IMO. As far as non cyan I also loved Aloysius 2.0 Snow. Again another extremely stable rom that everything just works without having to mess with a bunch of crap.
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I guess im lucky, i havent had the outgoing mms issue with 2.4. I dont often use mms, mostly gmail to send stuff like that, but i have tried it out since i flashed both the rom, and the theme i applied. Of course i also have done the apn fix on the rom, that might have something to do with it but over all i find this extremely stable and well worth downloading

gorgio1 said:
which one is the best in every way?
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It's impossible that one ROM is "best" in "every way".
The ROM devs focus on different things, and try to optimize those things.
The Froyo ROMs are "the best" at being a 2.2 based ROM - but I doubt anybody uses them day-to-day.
Some people like bug-free, some like eye-candy, some want to optimize their Linpack results, some like Sense, some hate Sense.
What is good about this is that as the devs gain experience making a certain package work well, the other devs get the benefit of their knowledge & experience (hopefully), and all the ROMs get better with time.
bftb0

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which one is the best in every way?
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Install and use all of them and pick one. THAT one is "the best".

Like everyone else "best" ROM no such thing... if you want stock -run Ivans official rom... Ive tested every rom, and im back to ivans... best out there IMO, r00t!!!

White Widow is the best

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White Widow is the best
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I second that. It's pretty much bugless now. Normal battery life and LinPacks in the 5+ range all the time. Facebook sync works as well. You get real time updates and interaction from the developer on Google Wave. It's very interactive getting to have real input on the ROM. Plus, you don't have to deal with people trolling and flaming. Everyone should check it out.
White Widow Official Discussion Wave

WHITE WIDOW IS THE BEST BY FAR
it is also constantly updated and there is an update that should be out pretty soon.

White Widow 3.2
By far.
You'll find it on Google Wave, not the forums. Too much complaining about it.
Fast, vanilla, stable.

I was totally being sarcastic, White Widow is one of the worst, but at least you get the point that you don't want to take anyone's word for it just try them out yourself.

Photex said:
I was totally being sarcastic, White Widow is one of the worst, but at least you get the point that you don't want to take anyone's word for it just try them out yourself.
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You been bad mouthing WW for weeks. Its understandable, you do not like it. But you made your shots at the developer, not the ROM itself. That's fine, you have a chip on your shoulder.
But it seems a bit odd you try to be sarcastic with very non sarcastic words with little to no reason to do so.
It's a bit more odd you respond to your own sarcasm without being prompted.
In fact, every post I have seen of yours are negative.
Are you a troll in disguise?

Carreno43 said:
You been bad mouthing WW for weeks. Its understandable, you do not like it. But you made your shots at the developer, not the ROM itself. That's fine, you have a chip on your shoulder.
But it seems a bit odd you try to be sarcastic with very non sarcastic words with little to no reason to do so.
It's a bit more odd you respond to your own sarcasm without being prompted.
In fact, every post I have seen of yours are negative.
Are you a troll in disguise?
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Enjoy your ROM, I hope he gets a C&D order since he's distributing it with google ****s.

Distributing it or not.
Other ROM's that canot distribute google ****s provide a link to download it.
Reminiscent of pirates bay-esque thinking. "We don't distribute it, we simply provide a way for you to download it"
Same thing.

Carreno43 said:
Distributing it or not.
Other ROM's that canot distribute google ****s provide a link to download it.
Reminiscent of pirates bay-esque thinking. "We don't distribute it, we simply provide a way for you to download it"
Same thing.
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Just shows his inability to follow the rules, instead of keeping it separate he distributes it with his ROM, he steals themes, he includes 3rd party applications.
I can't believe you guys would trust a kernel from someone who has been caught on multiple occasions taking other peoples work and calling it his own. Enjoy your back doored kernel, i hope you don't use mint.com!

Photex said:
Just shows his inability to follow the rules, instead of keeping it separate he distributes it with his ROM, he steals themes, he includes 3rd party applications.
I can't believe you guys would trust a kernel from someone who has been caught on multiple occasions taking other peoples work and calling it his own. Enjoy your back doored kernel, i hope you don't use mint.com!
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...taking other peoples work
-Credit was given-
...instead of keeping it separate he distributes it with his ROM
-Providing a link is the same evil-
...steals themes
-There is no theme-
...includes 3rd party applications.
-There is more than one ROM guilty of this-
... back doored kernel
-Unproven troll-legations-

Let's stop making this a 'Let's back up Andrizoid' thread.
He already has a laughable reputation with anyone putting credible and worthwhile effort into developing ROMs. It doesn't much matter what everyone thinks.
As well, it's pretty obvious that taking other peoples' work and having it all seamlessly integrate makes for a GREAT ROM. As it turns out, when everyone else has already done the leg work, and you slap it together, great things can happen. Funny how that works.
White Widow might be a great ROM. That's what this is about. Don't use the fact that you can discuss things on Google Wave with the "developer" (if he calls himself that) as a positive trait of this ROM. It has nothing to do with it. I wouldn't use White Widow on Principle. Let whoever wants to use/download it decide that.
I think Ivan's Eris_Official 1.0 is the best stock-looking SenseUI ROM. It is the most stable ROM of ANY ROM (although may be equivalently stable to Plain Jane), and has the most saught after features available to put together with it (apps2sd, overclocking, optimized .pngs in all the .apks, wifi tether, etc). It's my favorite because it LOOKs just like everyone else's hero/eris, but is infinitely more capable.
EvilEris 3 is one of my favorites as well, as again I love SenseUI (every time I go vanilla, I come back to Sense even though its slower), and the skin is perfect. It also includes some of the Sense widgets that Incredible users and Legend users get that weren't included on the Eris (great job with the OpenSense plugin, Framework43 !). Sense crashes sometimes, and the GPS icon stays on the top, but it's because of all of the great features and skinning he's done. Great daily ROM.

just my 2 cents here
If its your code he "stole" take it up with him. If its your friends, inform your friend, otherwise its not much of your concern? unless your into joining that patent lawsuit with Steve B-Jobs

Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One

Hi,
Does any one know if there is a Sense-Froyo Rom for Nexus One?
If so is it any good / stable, if not any ideas when?
Cool thanks guys.

Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there

nexus9988 said:
Yea there is one but stable not really to confident on that but modaco.com you should be able to find a sense ui rom on there
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Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future

cymru said:
Going for the grammar award?
OP: Did you try searching? It took me roughly 7 seconds to find this --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Try working things out for yourself or taking an I.T class in future
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I'd rather post a quick question to people who are dealing with this frequently, than trawl the web, sift through junk and install something which has lots of bugs.
Cheer up, its not all bad.
Thanks for the link.

you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.

Without a criteria of what he is looking for other than good and stable it's hard to give a good answer. It's not about e-toughness, it's about searching, putting together an informative post, and reading the forum rules.
'cymru' is 100% correct. All it took was a search and reading comments about what does and does not work, then nandroid backup and try the rom and see if it passes the "good and stable" test.

DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
btw, i dont think there is a sense rom that has everything working like your stock version. i hope im wrong but i was interested in rooting to use sense, in the development section i couldnt find any that didnt have disclaimers about things that arent working, so i havent gotten to try it out yet. But again, maybe im wrong, and i hope i am.
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WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)

stuff said:
WHat he said.
Sense UI has its bugs on the N1. I think LauncherPro is 100x better than Sense UI. It's just not as smooth (this is coming from experience using it on an Evo 4g)
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I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!

LevitateJay said:
I'd run a stable sense rom if there was one with Launcher Pro as my launcher... I want sense for the camera, calc, dialer, calander, emails etc. not the launcher. The applications on it are just way better quality!
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Well there are some roms that have ported sense camera, and apps.
I do believe my "The Official" rom has them. It didn't come stock with the sense camera, but I had it installed (easy to do from spare parts, plus I have 720p recording).
The best you can do is look for a rom with those things ported over.

Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing

crx4xharder said:
Evils q&d sensefroyo is killer he had updates frequently and his newest v1.1 is amazing
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I might check that out...I tried KingKlick's latest rom and my phone rebooted all night long with it. Lamesauce.

I agree with cymru, its not that hard to click one section over to development and see what's there instead of someone making a new thread everytime, and xda agrees. Not a big a deal yes, just saying I agree
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App

DMaverick50 said:
you'll have to forgive XDA, recently it has attracted many young people that get bullied at home and school, this is a place they can come and anonymously display their e-toughness. Just ignore them.
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Luckily i've been a member for a number of years so don't fall into this category...
If it wasn't for XDA recently attracting many young people that weren't taught at home or school in how to do something for themselves once in a while they wouldn't have to come and anonymously display their e-laziness. Just shut up.
EDIT: THANKS JRBOURQUE ^

Hi guys, if the battle for whos the cleverist is now over, heres some feed back for the advice given.
I've installed, Evils q&d sensefroyo. Been running it for a few days, its cool. A little buggy, a few force closes, high battery use, no bluetooth, but very usable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730290
Again thanks for the input, hope this helps anyone else who was looking for similar info.
Cheers.

I tried kingxclikz and Paul's r23 roms, I must say the first one is very buggy and there are no ways to use it even for 24h(though I think it needs an eclair radio),Paul's rom is way more stable but the lack of Metamorph themes,trackball mods and BT are too important.
He promised to release a new version soon so all we can do is wait and see!

Ughh. No BT on any sense ROM then?

Is anybody even working on bluetooth for Desire roms? I don't think anybody actually is. There are a few people I think might be capable like Paul but he's busy with other things now by the looks of it

Rom Overload?

Is it just me or does it seem like everyone and their mother are posting Roms in the Evo development subforum?
I'm not going to name names or anything, but there seem to be a few teams that work very hard at distinguishing themselves as great releases only to get overtaken by people launching derivatives that are not much more than wallpaper changes of the very same roms?
Many of us can tell the distinction between the two, but I worry about new folks coming in who have no idea. I'm not going to spread FUD, but installing roms from an untrustworthy source is a great way for real problems to be introduced into the security model of the Android platform.
Does anyone else see this as a concern? Are there any solutions we as a group can come up with? Is this really not a big deal?

Yes you are correct
OMG I changed the color of the call [email protected]!!!!! NEW ROM!!!!!
Instead of theme change.
Either go cyanogen (uber premium) or stay rooted stock.
No need for the other bs. They don't do anything.
Now the kernels, I like, keep them going though. But the roms need to stop.

I think people are just making them in a sad attempt to gain free donations for their "efforts" or lack thereof.

kthejoker20 said:
Either go cyanogen (uber premium) or stay rooted stock.
No need for the other bs. They don't do anything.
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so let me get this straight. you're automatically dismissing OMJ's work, Baked Snack, Fresh, Damage Control, etc. just to name a few, simply because they are not cyanogen? better at ease son.
secondly, you can't simply lock down the forum for the "legendary" cooks. what happens if a noobie comes in with a simply stellar rom that gives us 12 years of battery life and the ability to teleport but because he's not Cyanogen, he can't release? that seems a little asinine.
i think people need to be responsible for their own phones. research, do a little leg work, talk with some forum members, make an informed decision and go with it.

SilverStone641 said:
so let me get this straight. you're automatically dismissing OMJ's work, Baked Snack, Fresh, Damage Control, etc. just to name a few, simply because they are not cyanogen? better at ease son.
secondly, you can't simply lock down the forum for the "legendary" cooks. what happens if a noobie comes in with a simply stellar rom that gives us 12 years of battery life and the ability to teleport but because he's not Cyanogen, he can't release? that seems a little asinine.
i think people need to be responsible for their own phones. research, do a little leg work, talk with some forum members, make an informed decision and go with it.
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Nice way of twisting what I said. BTW...
Nice upoad speed dude 44mb

I'm still a relative newb to Android, but I can see how it would be easy to get overloaded with all the ROMs out there. I've bounced back and forth between Fresh, CM6, and rooted stock for a while and I finally got sick of having to set up my phone over and over again (yes, I know about Titanium, but it's not good for certain types of things). Anyway, I finally said f*** it and flashed CM6 again and have left it there. None of them are perfect, but CM6 works the best for me.

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Nice way of twisting what I said. BTW...
Nice upoad speed dude 44mb
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Less twisting then what you think. It's not CM or stay stock. I personally ran CM nightlies and CM6, both times I left them because even with all the fine work he's done there are very large and blatant things I don't think are great about it.
Does that mean it's low end, no, but there are lots of Roms every bit as highend and polished as CM.
Now on the main OP, I agree that we are seeing a flood, but also that there is nothing to do about it in an open community which is pushing people to tweak and express and share. It is what it is, and if they aren't calling out the people who put in the actual time into said Rom and giving them all the praise for the actual work then shame on them.

One way to help new users do research, is if there was a chart comparing the more popular roms... o wait there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
pretty unbiased test that compares several features that most people would look for in a rom.

nief1313 said:
One way to help new users do research, is if there was a chart comparing the more popular roms... o wait there is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=746611
pretty unbiased test that compares several features that most people would look for in a rom.
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Neif, you crack me up whenever I see you pushing your grid. I've been dircting people to the wiki to check it out, but good luck trying to stay on top of all of the new releases. More power to you.
And to bring the thread back on topic - there do seem to be a lot of roms floating around that don't really seem to bring anything new to the table.

People are just posting what works for them. I am glad there are so many ROMs. If you think this is bad, I guess you never had a G1.

This really isnt something I'd be complaining about. Check out SDX forums (Moment support). Theres like one rom still receiving updates. The Hero forum is also losing support. Im more than happy to see people pushing a rom they cooked. It means the kitchens out there are actually getting used for the reason they were made available. Imo thats what open source is all about. If you dont trust it, dont flash it. Its that simple.
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dglowe343 said:
This really isnt something I'd be complaining about. Check out SDX forums (Moment support). Theres like one rom still receiving updates. The Hero forum is also losing support. Im more than happy to see people pushing a rom they cooked. It means the kitchens out there are actually getting used for the reason they were made available. Imo thats what open source is all about. If you dont trust it, dont flash it. Its that simple.
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I also love that the kitchens are being used - I'm dying to try one myself. I don't think its a trust issue though, I think its that some of these roms don't bring anything unique to the table, other than some theming and the removal of some apps.
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I do wish there was a subforum in the dev forum for roms. Perhaps a sticky's for the top 10 roms based on votes or downloads or some other type of ranking system.

fachadick said:
I also love that the kitchens are being used - I'm dying to try one myself. I don't think its a trust issue though, I think its that some of these roms don't bring anything unique to the table, other than some theming and the removal of some apps.
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dsixda's kitchen has pretty much everything you need. I installed Ubuntu in Virtual Machine and have started messing around, but unless you know what to and not to change, there isnt alot you can do to make the rom unique. But its worth doing if you're interested in learning about rom development.
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I've been looking at cooking my own rom but the thing is I would not only give credit where credit is due but also call it what it is.
I may come up with the perfect setup of base rom, kernal, apps, theme and just want to share with people who maybe like me are looking for that specific setup.
Easier to flash a rom with all that baked in then flashing everything individually. As long as someone credits correctly and doesn't try and say they did it all themselves why does it matter if it's documented properly.
Doesn't make it a worthless rom just makes it a colaboration of great work.

N00dle said:
I've been looking at cooking my own rom but the thing is I would not only give credit where credit is due but also call it what it is.
I may come up with the perfect setup of base rom, kernal, apps, theme and just want to share with people who maybe like me are looking for that specific setup.
Easier to flash a rom with all that baked in then flashing everything individually. As long as someone credits correctly and doesn't try and say they did it all themselves why does it matter if it's documented properly.
Doesn't make it a worthless rom just makes it a colaboration of great work.
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Its not a question of worth, simply a question of signal to noise.
I've run DC, Cal's, Netarchy's, Baked, Fresh, CM, Nightlies, and probably ecen a few others...I still think some sort of metric is required.
I'm gonna try thinking of something.

First I think we should be happy the evo has a strong community. We may even lose some with the galaxy s phones coming out.
Next a agree many aren't much of a difference, but for those that don't have time to tweak stuff in the kitchen before installing, it is nice to find exactly what you want.
Finally I'm sorry to sound like an elitist, but this is a hackers forum. There shouldn't be such an expectation of things always being safe and working.
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VSack said:
Its not a question of worth, simply a question of signal to noise.
I've run DC, Cal's, Netarchy's, Baked, Fresh, CM, Nightlies, and probably ecen a few others...I still think some sort of metric is required.
I'm gonna try thinking of something.
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I do agree there are a lot out there and it can be tough for people to tell what is what. I don't think it's a bad thing though, device support is good, it means that hopefully things will be running for a long time to come.

ROMS!!

I love all these "What doesn't work..." ROMS. LOVE IT! Thanks DEVS/ROM DEVS

So don't use them?

Oh i don't. Couldn't, they are not full roms, incomplete

Well they are just trying to bring that new experience to everyone else. One of the most popular roms for our phone doesnt have 4g or hdmi working, and the ported roms dont have those working + camera not working. It really aint that bad. If you can put up with Cyanogenmod, then you can put up with the other ports.
Cyanogenmod and the ports are all pretty much faster than the stock roms too, so there's a huge plus side right there.

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I love all these "What doesn't work..." ROMS. LOVE IT! Thanks DEVS/ROM DEVS
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First go read this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=814274
Second when you develop YOUR Desire HD ROM let us know we are dieing for a full working version.
Sorry that the ROMs that are incomplete have put you out. Maybe you should flash stock everything works on it.
Also please try to refrain from post more brainless topics.

i have a full rom that actually works and for people that like partial roms, these "what doesn't work" things will do fine. I like functionality

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i have a full rom that actually works and for people that like partial roms, these "what doesn't work" things will do fine. I like functionality
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I don't know what your talking about the only ROMs that are incomplete are the HD Desire ROMs. ALL of the other ROMs should be complete. I know my ROM is or at least as far as I know it is. You are not everyone, some people don't use the camera and don't live in a 4G area (most of us). So the HD Desire ROMs appeal to them. Quite thinking about yourself for a moment.
Also those "incomplete" desire roms give people like me a chance to star developing new ROMs using it as a base. SO when the camera is fixed we will be ready to rock. I'm sure THAT would be fine with you.
The world is full of other people.. just letting you know.

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i have a full rom that actually works and for people that like partial roms, these "what doesn't work" things will do fine. I like functionality
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I am guessing the new ROM your using had everything from the beginning? Camera worked perfect, 4G worked perfect, HDMI worked perfect, no bugs what-so-ever? It doesn't have Sense does it...hopefully not...
Can I know the name of this Rom, if so? And I am guessing its made by you, because who would be stupid enough to bad mouth other people's work that they have done for FREE and because they enjoy it and want to share it with the rest of us.
I really think you should go elsewhere, and stay off XDA. As this site is about helping people, not bad mouthing what these people are doing for us because they want to.
Thanks.

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What does this post contribute? Nothing. Does it serve a point other than to express your self-valued opinion? No.
gtfo

Look at these so called roms. They have lists of important features that "aren't working". They keep adding useless apps and call it a new version. Pathetic

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Ok so what do you suggest? Maybe the rom DEVELOPERS, key word devolpers, should hold out on these roms until its completely functional and not give anyone the chance to DEVELOP them and test for bugs and issues? Im sorry but did Apple release a fully working OS for Iphone? Or did Verizon release a fully working Droid rom, or Sprint a fully working EVO rom? Maybe had these companies release fully working products then XDA and custom roms wouldnt exist. The roms are created to give users a better product and make them work the way they should have out of the box. Cyanogen started a 2.2 rom for the hero that had items that didnt work at first but through testing releases and community feedback they got it completely working.
Id like a copy of YOUR completely working rom. Id like to run it for a week and prove theres not a single issue what so ever.
The developers clearly state that its an incomplete rom if theres items not working and clearly tell you what isnt working. They do this to give you the option to test with them or to stay away.
Your post, and Im sure you know this, is the exact reason developers have left here. Maybe you should create your own site, develop your own roms, and forget XDA. Had it not been for here my 3 previous phones and this one would be in the trash because of HTC and Sprints crap software that gave horrible battery life.
Thanks to Fresh's rom Im at 18h 21m and 40% battery left. On Sprints crap I was dead 8 hours. Ill gladly take a developmental rom to get that kind of battery, especially since I havent found anything not working.

Oh get off their nuts. Its been months. You test fully functioning software with bugs and glitches....NOT part of an OS and call it testing. The functions AREN'T there to test

Actually slick, you test the working parts of the rom while developers complete the parts that arent working and release update when their fixed. Have you never been part of a beta community or testing in general? Game developers (Infinity Ward for example) do this before every release. Call of Duty is a prime example. They release partially finished products then finish the remaining aspects.
So how about your rom? It sounds like its the best one ever made.

Actually ****, there is nothing to test. Its "what doesn't work" action. Say your only about partial. Typical simp

Get back to work kiesha

Ok, your right and I apologize for questioning your abilities as a developer and thinking you actually were as impaired as your posts make you seem. I guess its time to go back to Sprints stock rom and deal with the inability to put out a quality product that doesnt need further developing.
I look forward to the masterpiece youve created and hopefully soon it will be released to show the world what a dominating force you are in the development world.
And no, there is absolutely no sarcasm in this post at all, you really are my hero...

Another ungrateful person who complains when things don't happen the way they think it should posting another pointless thread that is meant to stir **** up.
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Thank you. Finally you guys see. Im glad people can admit when they are looking at things wrong

Ungrateful is using or having something and not appreciating it. I dont use those junkies