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What is the best ROM as of 4-21-10?

What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1

amot said:
What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1
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I don't like answering threads like this cause I like people to test them out for themselves cause it's a personal choice. But, if you like Sense builds, check out DarchLegend 5.0.5 (or the stable ROM in the first post of that thread), or Fresh 2.0d. If you like AOSP and don't mind losing camera, definitely check out DarchDroid. I am using it now and it is a solid rom. ZenEXP is fun to play around with, but is not completely functional as of yet. But as I said before, I encourage you to try them all and see what fits you the best.

I like my bread toasted do to OC kernel.
I predict its the future of most hero roms.

I like the MatrixROM.
It's simple, fast, and stable. A good blank slate that you can scale into whatever you want.
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Aloysius
is at 2.0.5 now..

amot said:
What is the most COMPLETE, FASTEST, STABLE basically works the best all around ROM out there right now?
ZenEXP-0.1
Aloysius 2.0.4
DamageControl v2.07.2
Darchdroid v2
DarchLegend OC5.0.6
RegawMOD v2.1
Fresh Rom 2.0d
Ic3Rom v2.0.4
Fresh Toast v1
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The point of this thread remains a bit unclear to me. Are you assuming
that we are all the same and your idea of best is the same as ours?
Also everyones exp are different. If you would flash a rom blindly
because someone you dont even know is serious or not suggested it,
then you my friend are probably due for a phone bricking rickrolling.....
Good luck to all those that flash because of others suggestions on
finding something that you yourself truely enjoy. Its bascially the same
as asking ppl to tell you what your favorite sitcom is. I would assume
anyone here already knows their favorite rom(If they havent compiled
it themselves)along with the reasons for it being so. But we all contribute
to the community in different ways, and if this is yours then thanks.

CB.CP is Epic!!! Very Fast!!

Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyways...the only correct answer to your thread OP.....the best rom out there is the one that works best for you and your needs. Sift through all the roms out there and you will find your diamond in the rough.

MagnusRagnarok said:
The point of this thread remains a bit unclear to me. Are you assuming
that we are all the same and your idea of best is the same as ours?
Also everyones exp are different. If you would flash a rom blindly
because someone you dont even know is serious or not suggested it,
then you my friend are probably due for a phone bricking rickrolling.....
Good luck to all those that flash because of others suggestions on
finding something that you yourself truely enjoy. Its bascially the same
as asking ppl to tell you what your favorite sitcom is. I would assume
anyone here already knows their favorite rom(If they havent compiled
it themselves)along with the reasons for it being so. But we all contribute
to the community in different ways, and if this is yours then thanks.
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lol! +1
yes, this thread is pointless. responses here will only be a watered down version of the roms original thread. id advice trying all of them to gain your own idea of what is the best rom.

nighteyes_wolf said:
Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyways...the only correct answer to your thread OP.....the best rom out there is the one that works best for you and your needs. Sift through all the roms out there and you will find your diamond in the rough.
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+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.

kbizzle said:
CakeButt.ClownPenis is Epic!!! Very Fast!!
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I've seen this in at least 4 threads (not to include the one were this was created and deleted) it's now officially a meme
not that one.... the other one where one of our "devs" rage quited

I agree with this but this isn't as obscene as the whole 2.1 is out garbage.
Yet another thread that shouldn't need to exist....there are plenty of other threads asking essentially the same exact question.....
*sighs* anyway
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+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.
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kbizzle said:
+1. Been saying this since I was flashing my Diamond. Every phone plays different and every person has their own opinion. Flash a ROM every week and just play with it. Hell, you could probably find out in less than an hour if the ROM is what you are looking for.
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Ya but there are people out there who don't have the patience of doing that........ *hulk smash* I lost count how many times I've flashed the last two months since the 2.1 roms started to roll in. Sometimes even if I flash the same rom, wiping in between, I don't always have the same experience twice.
It's a process...but one that leads to happiness in the end once you find that one that makes your phone go 'ahhhhhhhh thats more like it'
I buy my computer chairs the same way...I basically blindfold myself and just start sitting in every damn chair in the store from cheap to expensive till my body lets me know I've made the right choice. Sure....it ends up being a gawd damn $350 chair but it was worth it haha /tangent
Mods please lock this thread

Maybe we can stop calling things pointless and leave it has a just a poll..
We can see what most people prefer and what everyones personal feeling is to the rom they are using.
And also for people rooting for the first time. I wouldnt recommend "just flash every rom you can and make a decision".
I would recommend flashing what the majority of people use and feel comfortable with. And then experiment from there.
This thread can also be informational if people stop complaining and post why they think a certain rom is better.
I understand there is more threads like this, but this has all current roms.

nighteyes_wolf said:
Mods please lock this thread
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um... why? It's a pretty good poll, it would be nice to see what everyone's favorite would be

johnsongrantr said:
um... why? It's a pretty good poll, it would be nice to see what everyone's favorite would be
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Well, ok maybe I'm just mentally exhausted and was a little on the harsh side, but if anything, can this be merged with the other threads asking what the best/fastest/stable roms out there are.....

Agreed w/ a majority of the posters so far....ROM flashing, be it w/ a Droid, a WinMo, or other O/S...is always about user preference. There will never be a consensus "best" in that regard...
That said, while I tend to gloss or skip over threads like this, I do attentively examine the "most stable ROM" threads, as ultimately....regardless of what eye candy or features I want in a phone, it still needs to function AS A PHONE!
I'm sure this priority will vary in rank w/ people who may use their phone for business purposes as much or more than personal (ie. myself), but when it comes down to it, I could care less how many zoom features I have in my camera, so long as my system lag is minimal, SMS works, and I can hear a caller on the other end of the line!
Off my soapbox now, and back to the original question...I'm toggling between the Darchdroid ROM for it's lightning speed and DC's latest w/ the today's latest mod updates. Tomorrow....who the F knows?

pwrmedia said:
Off my soapbox now, and back to the original question...I'm toggling between the Darchdroid ROM for it's lightning speed and DC's latest w/ the today's latest mod updates. Tomorrow....who the F knows?
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I would normally agree with the darchdroid as I really do truely love his work, it feels the fastest, but I'm running into waay too many problems with push gmail, battery life, vm notification, and some other stuff. v2 (pre-OC) worked really well, guess I'll go back to it after stuff gets fixed.
My vote is for fresh-toast as of the time of this post

Jus10o said:
Maybe we can stop calling things pointless and leave it has a just a poll..
We can see what most people prefer and what everyones personal feeling is to the rom they are using.
And also for people rooting for the first time. I wouldnt recommend "just flash every rom you can and make a decision".
I would recommend flashing what the majority of people use and feel comfortable with. And then experiment from there.
This thread can also be informational if people stop complaining and post why they think a certain rom is better.
I understand there is more threads like this, but this has all current roms.
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Obviously you are not speaking of me since i went out of my way to avoid
the word pointless. If this thead was titled "Whats your favorite rom and
why" i never wouldve posted. I didnt come in to find a new rom, i came in
to comment hoping maybe the op will be a little more specific in his/her
next post as not to mislead and waste ppls time. There can never BE a
BEST rom, and hopefully most of us here know that. If not continue to
scour this post by all means, if you look hard enough you might even be
able to find one that imitates the iphone os. If not you should prolly just
go buy one

im the best rom available as of 4-21

AOSP vs. Sense

I've been using HTC Sense since getting my Evo on launch day and have been loving it. However, I keep hearing about AOSP and how the much-awaited Cyanogen ROM that is in development is using it.
What are some of the key differences between both?!

someone should post a picture comparison of Sense vs AOSP so threads like these will stop being created.

Download and flash evo v9 and find out for yourself.

MrDSL said:
Download and flash evo v9 and find out for yourself.
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That does not help very much ...
This question will be asked 4923891x with people posting answers like this. I also have this same question as I have only flashed the Fresh, and Dam rom's.

IAMCLP1 said:
That does not help very much ...
This question will be asked 4923891x with people posting answers like this. I also have this same question as I have only flashed the Fresh, and Dam rom's.
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No seriously, take a look for yourself its not that hard....rolls eyes

IAMCLP1 said:
That does not help very much ...
This question will be asked 4923891x with people posting answers like this. I also have this same question as I have only flashed the Fresh, and Dam rom's.
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It will happen no matter what..Its not like AOSP is something new. There are countless pics of AOSP on these forums already. Google pic search for AOSP and you will also find many.
You have to use a AOSP ROM to really know how much better then sense it really is. Sure you'll loose some fancy dancy widgets but I have found good replacements for all the ones I used.

MrDSL said:
It will happen no matter what..Its not like AOSP is something new. There are countless pics of AOSP on these forums already. Google pic search for AOSP and you will also find many.
You have to use a AOSP ROM to really know how much better then sense it really is. Sure you'll loose some fancy dancy widgets but I have found good replacements for all the ones I used.
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Yeah, I have looked at all the pics, etc ... I will just wait for this AOSP Froyo to be released then I will see first hand
You are correct this will be asked more times than it should, but better answers help sometimes. (and it was not like this was a bad question, vs some that I have seen)

Here are some screen shots, I'll try to add more later.
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Yeah, I have looked at all the pics, etc ... I will just wait for this AOSP Froyo to be released then I will see first hand
You are correct this will be asked more times than it should, but better answers help sometimes. (and it was not like this was a bad question, vs some that I have seen)
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It is a very different feel. I like clean/simple things (I like Apples computers and gadgets, for example) and to me AOSP has a more clean simple feel. I think Sense has a great look to it, but some of the bubbliness is tacky to me. The lock screen and rosie are nice, but most of the apps (calendar, RSS, etc.) and widgets are gaudy to me. I particularly dislike the bubble at the bottom to switch tabs thing, just ugly to me.
I also think there are some big UI mistakes in Sense. Editing a contact is confusing for instance.
However I do like the black notification bar, and I like Bugless Beast's launcher with a black google search bar.
In the end it is a matter of taste. One of the reasons I moved from my iPhone to an Android phone was to have more options in regards to this kind of stuff.

[rom request] Vanilla makes Sense...

Ok... there are a nice hand full of "sense-less" sense roms out right now, Athena being my favorite of these. But once upon a time, before Incdoes blew up into a monster dev (then crashed and burned) he did the complete opposite. He had his "Best of both worlds" AOSP rom with sense stuff in it (rom thread here) This was my favorite rom at that time.... I like AOSP but also like a lot of the sense... i know i'm not the only one who feels the same, so can this be done now with GB? Hope someone with the skills tries this cuz i think people would like this also......
I still have his v2.0 and v2.1 if someone wants to take a look at them and try for them selves.....
download links....
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15212713/best of 2 worlds/IncDoes_AOSP_v2.0_signed.zip
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15212713/best of 2 worlds/IncDoes_AOSPv2.1_signed.zip

hey stoney.....i would love to try it out...still looking for something different...and I never tried it when he was around...was digging his DesireZ, and am still running it to this day, even though i can't access internal memory...where can I get it?

I agree. I LOVED that rom. Sense widget support with a stock launcher (and feel) for me would be ideal. Great idea trying to bring something of this caliber back!

JoeProcopio said:
hey stoney.....i would love to try it out...still looking for something different...and I never tried it when he was around...was digging his DesireZ, and am still running it to this day, even though i can't access internal memory...where can I get it?
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I'll post v2.0 and 2.1 as soon as I get home, about 30min......
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!

WOuld this rom be able to use the sense facebook and such?

Updated OP with download links.....

Edit: Disregard

The only thing I miss from Sense is the camera app. Widgets etc. I never really cared for. The Sense camera is amazing though.

crondable said:
The only thing I miss from Sense is the camera app. Widgets etc. I never really cared for. The Sense camera is amazing though.
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That's one of the major things that takes me back to sense....
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Yup.... The ones yoe momma told ya about.... Bad Seed Customs!!

I'd love to pull is HTC Flashlight and Camera apps for AOSP Gingerbread

bump cuz i want this!!!!!!!

It seems like the think in that rom that worked were just apks werent they?
Most HTC apks should be installable still. Im not sure if that rom used actually sense widgets or not.

I think there are framework issues. Especially since HTC has not released their gingerbread update yet. Even then, I'm sure its proprietary.

Khanam also posted 2.3 in the original thread. This may help whoever wants to take this over.
khanam said:
found 2.3 in my office pc. its 77.25mb. here is the link. should work. flashing it was finicky when i flashed it way back so dont be surprised if you get FCs. also how i got it to work was by flashing it over cm6. maybe it was just me
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2IMUZX8G
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HD2 Android development stall

I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl, we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such. Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues, and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know, but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works, just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead. The roms used to work 100%, but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round. And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing! And I don't mind donating when something is GOOD, when it works and I appreciate the technical work that went in to make it work...not the technical work that went in to make it look pretty, at the expense of some fairy disastrous issues.
Please xda, enough with the benchmark willy waving competition! Please somebody just go back to making things that work rather than pretty...pretty useless...eyecandy!
And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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yes...so why not starting today...make a ROM urself ???

We are all waiting for .35 desire kernel source from HTC?

Peteryoung said:
I know there are a lot of people out there excited about getting sense 3.0 on hd2 and all that jazz, but has nobody else noticed, the kingdom roms etc have dragged development on hd2 to an absolute crawl,
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No, that is because there are less top devs on the device now, Some have moved on to different devices.
Peteryoung said:
we've completely dropped of xda's front page and to me it seems that its because everybody is doing the same thing and having the same problems doing such.
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Not at all, ist do to with view counts, posts created etc.
Peteryoung said:
Pretty much everything in nand development is now about trying to get camera working properly and remove graphic glitches from kingdom roms....really...do I need 15 different versions of the same rom ALL with EXACTLY the same issues,
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What you "need" has nothing to do with it, devs dont work on the roms because they have to, They do it because they WANT to, They work on what they "need" or want to and then share the work.
Peteryoung said:
and all with EXACTLY the same time frame for resolution...that is to say, there is no time frame. I'm being a whiney little bugger I know,
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Correct.
Peteryoung said:
but seriously, and this is the worst thing I could ever say about xda...I'm bored! Its all the same and its all rubbish...
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Completely disagree, The work and progress done on the Sense 3 roms is amazing, Sorry you are too ignorant and ungrateful to appreciate that.
Peteryoung said:
I would much prefere if somebody would do me a favour and return to building a nice simple rom on which EVERYTHING works,
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Then go and download one of the older non-sense froyo/GB roms like NexusHD2.
Peteryoung said:
just put some effort into that so when I see something interesting, I can just whip my phone out and take a pic, rather than having to explain to everyone nearby that my camera doesn't work because the rom was rushed out so I can have a shiny lock screen instead.
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Well that's your problem, The fact that you are having to do this means that you are CHOOSING to install work in progress builds rather then more developed builds, Its your fault and your problem.
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The roms used to work 100%,
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Err no they didn't, They was developed into a state where they eventually worked and the same will happen to Sense roms.
Peteryoung said:
but then everyone got carried away with sense lockscreens and quadrant scores....I don't care about any of those things...I would like a rom that just works all round.
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Then go download one?!?!
Peteryoung said:
And before somebody makes a snarky comment along the lines of "if you want it so bad why don't you do it yourself?" Well...simple answer, I'm not smart enough, I love xda because we're an open community where talented people share their work freely just for the pleasure of seeing something that was never intended to be boot up on our devices...amazing!
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EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sense Roms where never designed to run on HD2 and that is why they are been developed to do so! If you don't want to be patient or be part of the testing then that's your choice, go and download a simple stock rom!
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And one final closer, I KNOW those issues are inherant to porting the kingdom rom...so here's an idea...ditch the kingdom rom! Just go back to desire base...yes maybe the quadrant score is only a third of newer roms...but you know what...the Desire roms FELT fast and smooth because they were simple and quite light on the cpu....all the new roms are slow and tooth grindingly stuttery and laggy, even with their amazing benchmark scores. So I say poo to benchmarking and active lockscreens...how about a working camera and a rom that actually FEELS complete?
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Desire base has been ported already and doesn't need more work until the desire gets and update. If you like the desire base so much why don't you just stick to the roms already available? Ill tell you why because you enjoy trying new builds, again that's your decision but you cant then complain just because most of the devs are hard at work on what THEY want to work on rather then what YOU want them to work on!
I personally don't want them to work on anything else apart from the kingdom, why? because its down to personal preference just like yours, at the end of the day its upto each individual dev what they work on!
PS. Please go and learn how to use paragraphs and sentence breaks etc as it just gets on your nerves when trying to read big long blocks like that.

ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on

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ugh. this crap again? really? another thread dedicated to complaining that xda isn't giving you everything you want yesterday? and what do you expect with this kind of "support" - developers to come running over to you and ask you what you want?
this is exactly, exactly, what pushes people away from here.
really, you should have stopped with "I'm being a whiney little bugger" and just left. really, no one is begging you to stay. you aren't contributing; you are detracting. go on; leave.
@ theatheist - your points (as usual) are right on
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Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.

TheATHEiST said:
Seconded!
Ignorant people like this OP need banning.
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Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.

Playing the devil here:
At some point I can understand Peteryoung and I have seen several other people complain about this as well.
I have the HD2 just to toy around next to my E71 which makes it easy to say that I don't need a +90% working image. If something doesn't work tough ... and I will try another.
It would be nice to have the old trusty working roms like the one from Rafdroid updated to the latest working apps and all of the known fixes in 1 package.
I'm no developer but I am sure some of you could tweak the 'older' sense roms and incorperate all the latest working things. The GPS fixes are a nice example.
I personally applaud the devs in that thread for feedback and just trying to get it to work using feedback and interacting on it.
If the devs are focusing on newer type of roms, so be it and let them do it.
Lets face it, Android is fun on the HD2 but still it is a bit 'playing' around.

A retraction
Guys, I'm sorry
I think I was having a right cranky day when I penned that last grouchy missive.
I stand thoroughly ashamed and rightfully corrected on my last thoughts.
I really do appreciate all the work the devs put in for free here. I really do love the older desire roms and I guess I'm getting old, starting to refuse the changes of the times
I take it all back, I guess I really should stick to what I know best and let the youngsters do what they do best...making NEW stuff, not old.
I must say, I feel a little aggrieved at the sheer vitriol my post gained in response, but hey I guess after I'd battered everybody else with my tirade - that's just what I deserve.
Anyway, I hope the community can find it in their collective hearts to forgive this old sinner - I promise I won't write any more critical tirades on xda any more!
Apologies xda, I love you really xx
Peteryoung
P.S - Was the paragraph structure a little easier on the eye this time round?

Some just are not happy with ****...hey, you don't like it, move on back to WM6.5 where everything works. This is not a native android device so be lucky these developers are spending hours and days and more hours and more days so whiney ass spoiled brats like you can use their work for FREE. Be lucky you can even have ANDROID on the HD2! Another thing is there are plenty of what I consider perfect roms to choose from and many I have donated too.
Your apology is a joke you are still just acting like a *****...man up and get over yourself....

fred_up said:
Ignorant people, like myself, don't need banning; they need educating - like in your first posting.
I don't tend to go for the latest development, but rather one that works well.
If I want to try out a different version of SD Android, then I read what the chef has posted and all the posts relating to that specific release version. If it states that the camera isn't working yet, then I'll leave it as I use the camera. If it is noted that Bluetooth doesn't connect properly to headset, then I would use it, as I don't Bluetooth.
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Exactly
we are at liberty to choose any rom available here irrespective of the development progress
it is fun to flash...Ah, I miss old time when I had to flash ROM 2-3 times a week
Cheers...

[Q] Best Sense Rom and Best ICS Rom

ive been trying roms here and there but cant find the perfect one, but i want opinions on the best Sense rom and best ICS rom since im torn between the two. i personally likes sense when i had a MT4G and i like how the layout of ICS is. so opinions every one?

MrKickstand said:
ive been trying roms here and there but cant find the perfect one, but i want opinions on the best Sense rom and best ICS rom since im torn between the two. i personally likes sense when i had a MT4G and i like how the layout of ICS is. so opinions every one?
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There is no 'best ROM'. You'll have to try them out and find one for yourself. What works for one person won't necessarily work for another. Also, if you're going to respond to this directly come up with something better than 'oh I just want opinions' because all you have to do to find that is to look in the ROM thread at some of the posts and to look at the viewcount + post count of each ROM.

Try NexusHD2 CM9 HWA by TyTung
I don't think there is an ICS ROM with Sense. Sbryan 1124 has an alpha version of the 4.0.3 Sense 4 ROM from the One V but it's not fit for daily use. Try the NexusHD2 CM9 HWA by TyTung. It's vanilla ICS but it has very few issues

Nigeldg said:
There is no 'best ROM'. You'll have to try them out and find one for yourself. What works for one person won't necessarily work for another. Also, if you're going to respond to this directly come up with something better than 'oh I just want opinions' because all you have to do to find that is to look in the ROM thread at some of the posts and to look at the viewcount + post count of each ROM.
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thats why i said "but i want opinions on the best Sense rom and best ICS" which means i want opinions on why they think its the best, not just what i think is best.. i much rather hear what other people have to say about the rom. if i wanted on just tuned for me i would just make my own.

Munty_McCoy said:
I don't think there is an ICS ROM with Sense. Sbryan 1124 has an alpha version of the 4.0.3 Sense 4 ROM from the One V but it's not fit for daily use. Try the NexusHD2 CM9 HWA by TyTung. It's vanilla ICS but it has very few issues
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Lol i know that much, but when i tried sense roms i had some lag. But with the ICS roms i have more reliability, im using Nexus HD2 i like it but its been buggy on me where it doesnt notify me when i get a text so its kinda of making me go "eehh" to that rom for now.

MrKickstand said:
thats why i said "but i want opinions on the best Sense rom and best ICS" which means i want opinions on why they think its the best, not just what i think is best.. i much rather hear what other people have to say about the rom. if i wanted on just tuned for me i would just make my own.
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Either way you look at it, 'best ROM' threads are wrong and there isn't an answer so why bother asking?
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Lol i know that much, but when i tried sense roms i had some lag. But with the ICS roms i have more reliability, im using Nexus HD2 i like it but its been buggy on me where it doesnt notify me when i get a text so its kinda of making me go "eehh" to that rom for now.
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Having made my point about there being no best ROM, I can say that NexusHD2 works absolutely perfectly for me. I've been notified about every text and it's without doubt the fastest ROM I've tried for playing games and web browsing in particular. I won't say it's the best ROM because this is EXACTLY what I mean about 'what works for one won't necessarily work for another' but it's certainly good. Sense ROMs are in general slow, and you're not experiencing anything out of the ordinary. If you don't like one of them, chances are you're not going to like any of them.

Nigeldg said:
Either way you look at it, 'best ROM' threads are wrong and there isn't an answer so why bother asking?
Having made my point about there being no best ROM, I can say that NexusHD2 works absolutely perfectly for me. I've been notified about every text and it's without doubt the fastest ROM I've tried for playing games and web browsing in particular. I won't say it's the best ROM because this is EXACTLY what I mean about 'what works for one won't necessarily work for another' but it's certainly good. Sense ROMs are in general slow, and you're not experiencing anything out of the ordinary. If you don't like one of them, chances are you're not going to like any of them.
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I know what you mean, im sorry for mis-wording the thread, but i just like seeing opinions on Rom's before i try them. But if i dont like one sense rom doesnt mean i wont like a different one, every developer has there on way how they make their rom, so what could be in this rom could be completely different in this one, but hey thats the fun of making a rom. Also NexusHD2 my current daily use rom just because of how clean and stable it is, i probably messed something up to get the notification problem, but it has high potential along with paranoidandroid. but the main reason i like opinions on this subject is because maybe there is a underdog rom some where that isnt really get as much attention as the bigger ones right now that could be actually decent and what im looking for, or maybe and aspiring developer is making something.

MrKickstand said:
I know what you mean, im sorry for mis-wording the thread, but i just like seeing opinions on Rom's before i try them. But if i dont like one sense rom doesnt mean i wont like a different one, every developer has there on way how they make their rom, so what could be in this rom could be completely different in this one, but hey thats the fun of making a rom. Also NexusHD2 my current daily use rom just because of how clean and stable it is, i probably messed something up to get the notification problem, but it has high potential along with paranoidandroid. but the main reason i like opinions on this subject is because maybe there is a underdog rom some where that isnt really get as much attention as the bigger ones right now that could be actually decent and what im looking for, or maybe and aspiring developer is making something.
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I agree with you on wanting opinions I like to see the same... just ignore the above person because there is no where in the rules that's states this is wrong.....he just has nothing better to do..... anyway back on topic..... I have tried paranoid ( which I'm on and I LOVE) the later update allows alot of spirit changes that allow me to have everything to my liking... I have a half table half phone thing going on and its great. I tried aokp but I felt it was too buggy maybe after its off hold it will be better. I myself have been wondering about gb roms my self i haven't tried any hope this helps
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rawdaddymagraden said:
I agree with you on wanting opinions I like to see the same... just ignore the above person because there is no where in the rules that's states this is wrong.....he just has nothing better to do..... anyway back on topic..... I have tried paranoid ( which I'm on and I LOVE) the later update allows alot of spirit changes that allow me to have everything to my liking... I have a half table half phone thing going on and its great. I tried aokp but I felt it was too buggy maybe after its off hold it will be better. I myself have been wondering about gb roms my self i haven't tried any hope this helps
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The main reason i liked paranoidandroid was becaus of how stable it was and the uniqueness of the tablet phone. It looked nice and felt nice but the keyboard was a giant turn off and when i installed a different keyboard it would bug out like crazy and i couldnt find a way to fix it. But overall it has really good and clean.
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Paranoidandroid 1.1a didn't work so well for me. The phone randomly restarted one day and was stuck at the boot screen for hours. NexusHD2 gets the job done for me. I can live with the bugs

Munty_McCoy said:
Paranoidandroid 1.1a didn't work so well for me. The phone randomly restarted one day and was stuck at the boot screen for hours. NexusHD2 gets the job done for me. I can live with the bugs
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Thats why Nexus HD2 is my daily use rom, the only bugs in it are small ones that will be worked out. but other than that its overall great, but personally parnoidandroid does have my attention because i like the whole hybrid style, just some kinks need to be ironed out.

MrKickstand said:
Thats why Nexus HD2 is my daily use rom, the only bugs in it are small ones that will be worked out. but other than that its overall great, but personally parnoidandroid does have my attention because i like the whole hybrid style, just some kinks need to be ironed out.
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I like the whole hybrid concept too. Is paranoidandroid 1.2a any better?

Munty_McCoy said:
I like the whole hybrid concept too. Is paranoidandroid 1.2a any better?
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It definitely is IMO it has even more detail into what dpi's can be controlled and it has a new keyboard... the giant keyboard was a true turn off but I fixed that by adjusting the dpi for the keyboard and its great now I have hack zero reeboots or issues and battery life with juice defender and slightly oc is like 17 hrs moderate use for me
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rawdaddymagraden said:
just ignore the above person because there is no where in the rules that's states this is wrong
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Whilst I'm not here to get into any sort of argument, I'd just like to point out that just because something isn't stated in the rules doesn't mean it's not wrong. Back on topic though, Paranoidandroid is really good and different from other ROMs, although as of when I tried it NexusHD2 was far more stable and I preferred it.