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Scratches on my scratch resistant screen

I've owned my Samsung Focus since 12/26/10. I use it daily. I am careful not to put my keys and phone in the same pocket. I will admit to using my shirt to wipe smudges off my screen. It does not have a screen protector.
Is it normal to have so many small scratches all over the front of my screen?

parkpy said:
I've owned my Samsung Focus since 12/26/10. I use it daily. I am careful not to put my keys and phone in the same pocket. I will admit to using my shirt to wipe smudges off my screen. It does not have a screen protector.
Is it normal to have so many small scratches all over the front of my screen?
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I'm starting to wonder if there aren't some differences in Focii out there. I've only had mine a month, but it gets wiped, most often on the leg of my jeans, and has yet to have a single scratch, small or otherwise. I'll count myself lucky, but you should check out the gorilla glass thread going on here.

What may appear to be scratches could be the opposite of a scratch. Deposition of materials on the surface. I have a Motion Computing J3500 Tablet with Gorilla Glass. It looks like it has scratches sometimes, but it it actually fine marks from the digitizer pen. Some good hard rubbing with my microfiber cleaning cloths gets the job done.

Picture proof.
I'll use the suggestion of wiping hard with a microfiber though
edit: says I can't link you guys to the photo:-/

Quote from Samsung:
"Dear Paul,
Thank you for your inquiry.
We do apologize for the inconvenience. Apparently, the Samsung Focus is not using Gorilla Glass and we did not know how you utilize the use of your phone. If there would be scratches we advise you to use a protective screen on the phone.
Thank you for your continued interest in Samsung products.
Sincerely,
Technical Support
Kaye"

http://www.samsung.com/us/article/get-to-know-the-samsung-focus-with-windows-phone-7
Does the display use Gorilla Glass?
yes. the Samsung Focus does use Gorilla glass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU

wildbilll said:
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/get-to-know-the-samsung-focus-with-windows-phone-7
Does the display use Gorilla Glass?
yes. the Samsung Focus does use Gorilla glass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eb17SwyDDU
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bummmer.....I have had mine since November 8th and no scratches. No screen protector.
I believe you still have to be carefull. Nothing in your pocket with your phone.
You have to use common sense here as NOTHING in this world that says scratch resistant is really scratch resistant.

Some sand particles in your pocket can scratch any material besides diamonds.

Huh, this phone has to be using Gorilla glass. I've taken my car keys to the screen just to demonstrate it to other people, haha.
That said, my phone screen has no scratches. It wipes clean and looks as good as the day it came out of the box. There are a few on the back cover, but that's it.

Had my first spill
First drop yesterday onto pavement. A few almost imperceptible nicks on the chassis, but the screen is as smooth and unblemished as day 1.

drokkon said:
First drop yesterday onto pavement. A few almost imperceptible nicks on the chassis, but the screen is as smooth and unblemished as day 1.
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Hah, mines the same way. I dropped it twice now. Hit the back cover, flipped over, then proceeded to slide face first on the pavement.. the front black bezel looks like dogmeat but the glass is perfect I finally got a case just to protect that super soft front plastic surround..

I'm on my third Focus. My second one I had for over a month with a ZAGG screen protector on it. When I took it off to send the phone back to AT&T, the screen and back cover were MINT. They aren't cheap at $30, but I honestly think it was a very good investment. It isn't reusable, but has a lifetime warranty.

Had mine since Christmas eve.
Just wiped off all the smudges to take a look at it.
Looks like black ice to me.

I'm really not sure how I did it.. but my screen got a scratch on it. As a result I bought a screen protector from clearvue.
But anyway, here's a a picture I took to prove it:
[edit... okay looks like I need 8 posts to link a picture.. I'll update this in a bit]

I dropped mine on the gravel at the gun range on Sunday. Now, I've got a tiny chip and a crack across the screen. I guess I'll find out how much Samsung charges for repair soon...
Michael.

unfortunately, scratch resistant is not the same as scratch proof.

I heard Samsung put a layer on top of the Gorrila Glass to prevent fingerprint and improve smoothness of surface. Also I saw someone with Galaxy S tear that layer off(Just like screen protector). It might be the same thing for Focus.

amtrakcn said:
I heard Samsung put a layer on top of the Gorrila Glass to prevent fingerprint and improve smoothness of surface. Also I saw someone with Galaxy S tear that layer off(Just like screen protector). It might be the same thing for Focus.
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Maybe it was Nexus S that have oleophobic coating on the screen?

gorilla glass scratches ??? YES!

Well i stratched mine ... actually my wife did. She picked a few shells from the beatch thru them in the bag where my phone was. Next thing that damn screen had scratches on it
Next day went and bought creen protector. I hate that because even if the screen is unbreakable, you can scratch it.
I do think that in normal use, that won;t happen but you you have a wife that loves sand ... and shells ... take care and good luck. I believe that sand will scratch that screen.

I would kill my wife

Gorilla glass is not unscratchable or unbreakable. Its advertised as stronger and less likely to scratch, but how much more stronger and scratch durable? My dell streak's gorilla glass shattered from a 3 foot faceplant. Granted it has a bigger surface area, it still shouldn't have shattered.
I never remove the factory screen cover until I have a skinomi or other type of protector ready to install.
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Your wife is blonde?

I take care of mine and only yesturday i noticed quite a few small scratchs so time for a screen protector,

Damn... The least you can ask for is a blo.... eh... a cold beer everyday for the next month
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Luckily I learned that lesson on my lg arena

Sand particles will scratch Gorilla glass.They are unprocessed glass after all! ;-)
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There's also been three reported screen fractures. Two from falls, one from sitting on it. So it's definitely not unbreakable. I've got a Zagg Invisible Shield full body suit on mine. As far as encasing your phone in vinyl goes, it looks pretty good. It's dead if I drop it but at least it will die pretty.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

I stopped using screen protectors when I got a DHD and never had any scratches on it, nor have I on my SGS2. That said, I treat the phone like it's my baby! I suppose accidents can happen to anyone though.
Regards.

Having a screen protector will actually reduce chances of a glass shatter tremendously cause of the fact that the adhesive quality of any screen protector keeps the glass together making it less prone of shattering.
As far as scratches go, gorilla glass is definitely more resistant to scratches, but it never hurts to put a scratchguard on it, does it!

BarryH_GEG said:
There's also been three reported screen fractures. Two from falls, one from sitting on it. So it's definitely not unbreakable. I've got a Zagg Invisible Shield full body suit on mine. As far as encasing your phone in vinyl goes, it looks pretty good. It's dead if I drop it but at least it will die pretty.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
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I'm interested to know how that full body suit works. Surely with the back not being a flat surface you can't put a protector on it like a screen? Also, does it protect the edges?

Check the accessories thread on screen protectors, the invisible shield sucks on the sgs2.
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Most light scratches are usually the coating on top of screen not the actual glass.
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It might have been the sand and not the shells.

Locster126 said:
Check the accessories thread on screen protectors, the invisible shield sucks on the sgs2.
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Well, reading the posts in the accessories thread was 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Bottom line is people are looking for different things. I love those with a $700 phone buying $5 crap off of eBay. Anyway. I was looking for something to protect the phone, not just the screen. Here are some pics of my phone wearing the Zagg's. No protector is totally invisible. You can make up your own mind.
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mojojuju said:
Well i stratched mine ... actually my wife did. She picked a few shells from the beatch thru them in the bag where my phone was. Next thing that damn screen had scratches on it
Next day went and bought creen protector. I hate that because even if the screen is unbreakable, you can scratch it.
I do think that in normal use, that won;t happen but you you have a wife that loves sand ... and shells ... take care and good luck. I believe that sand will scratch that screen.
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I feel with you bro. That is exactly what my girlfriend did to my PSP with her handbag.
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it is not the glass itself that scratches but the coating on top of the glass... I have the same scratch. If i clean the screen with a microfiber cloth i cannot see any thing but when i run my fingernail on top of it i feel uneven surface.
And if my finger is oily THEN i can see the scratch.
Guys.. this is absolutely annoying. I dont see it but i know that it is there and it is driving me mad
I already ordered my zagg screen protector. hopefully i will have it in a few days and ill forget about the whole thing

BarryH_GEG said:
Well, reading the posts in the accessories thread was 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back. Bottom line is people are looking for different things. I love those with a $700 phone buying $5 crap off of eBay. Anyway. I was looking for something to protect the phone, not just the screen. Here are some pics of my phone wearing the Zagg's. No protector is totally invisible. You can make up your own mind.
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So it protects the edges too?

I got like a .3 millimeter scratch on mine. Just been having it in my pocket, never dropped it ..

olephobic coating DIY

Has any one tried this
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HOW+TO+COAT+Anti+Fingerprint+Oleophobic+Coating+by+yourself/9682/1
this is for those who love to have the clear screen protectors but hate the fingerprint and oil .. since the oleophobic SPs are very expensive.
If any one tried this please share your reviews..

Need oleophobic solhtion like this too
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anirudhks said:
Has any one tried this
http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/HOW+TO+COAT+Anti+Fingerprint+Oleophobic+Coating+by+yourself/9682/1
this is for those who love to have the clear screen protectors but hate the fingerprint and oil .. since the oleophobic SPs are very expensive.
If any one tried this please share your reviews..
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I have this the fusso smartphone coating
The phone is much easier to keep clean, deep exhale on the glass followed by a couple of rubs with a cloth
Remember though that it adds no extra protection like the spg glas protectors
I had to import my fusso from Japan as it was the cheapest, if I was to wait a few weeks I could have had a spg for not much more money
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searley said:
I have this the fusso smartphone coating
The phone is much easier to keep clean, deep exhale on the glass followed by a couple of rubs with a cloth
Remember though that it adds no extra protection like the spg glas protectors
I had to import my fusso from Japan as it was the cheapest, if I was to wait a few weeks I could have had a spg for not much more money
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So you can apply this only on the naked screen or also on the normal clear Screen protectors? coz I am just exploring few places where I can source this for much cheaper than the price quoted on amazon

Be VERY careful with this stuff. I used this on my wife's Xperia Go phone and accidently got some of the product in the lower microphone. After that happened it her speech was all muddled and there was an echo....
Other than that, it was very very good. I also applied this to my Moto Razr HD (avoiding contact with the microphone) and it lasted about 2 months before requiring a re-application.
Another product I've used with even better results, is Optimum Opti Coat 2.0. This stuff is used on cars (both my cars are coated) and its simply amazing. I have found this product lasts about 12 months with pretty hard wearing.

cheetah2k said:
Be VERY careful with this stuff. I used this on my wife's Xperia Go phone and accidently got some of the product in the lower microphone. After that happened it her speech was all muddled and there was an echo....
Other than that, it was very very good. I also applied this to my Moto Razr HD (avoiding contact with the microphone) and it lasted about 2 months before requiring a re-application.
Another product I've used with even better results, is Optimum Opti Coat 2.0. This stuff is used on cars (both my cars are coated) and its simply amazing. I have found this product lasts about 12 months with pretty hard wearing.
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so this actually repels finger prints and smudges? as in no oily residue on the screen .. I am looking at mainly something like a mAtte screen finish but full clarity ... effective i want to have clear view with no finger prints

No you still get finger prints but they are easier to wipe off
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searley said:
No you still get finger prints but they are easier to wipe off
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ah ok .. makes sense ...

I've applied Gtechnique G1 - 2 coats on front and back.
It's not fingerprint-proof, but definitely picks up much less oils, and it's easier to clean too.
And you get a nice beading of water droplets

luke997 said:
I've applied Gtechnique G1 - 2 coats on front and back.
It's not fingerprint-proof, but definitely picks up much less oils, and it's easier to clean too.
And you get a nice beading of water droplets
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I have always wondered how the actual phones in the ADs and demo videos they show have a kinda a reflective surface thts not shiny like mirror look you get on a clear screen protector , they more look like a matte finish is it because of this coating?

anirudhks said:
I have always wondered how the actual phones in the ADs and demo videos they show have a kinda a reflective surface thts not shiny like mirror look you get on a clear screen protector , they more look like a matte finish is it because of this coating?
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The G1 does not affect optical properties of the glass in any way, it is a nano coat with a thickness. ca. 10-20nm.

luke997 said:
The G1 does not affect optical properties of the glass in any way, it is a nano coat with a thickness. ca. 10-20nm.
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so what kinda screens are those that appear in the ADS ? they look so brilliant as in not the display brightness
but the off Screen which is awsome like this below
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look at the shiny portion it looks like a matte finish but bright

How long will 1 kit last?
cheetah2k said:
Be VERY careful with this stuff. I used this on my wife's Xperia Go phone and accidently got some of the product in the lower microphone. After that happened it her speech was all muddled and there was an echo....
Other than that, it was very very good. I also applied this to my Moto Razr HD (avoiding contact with the microphone) and it lasted about 2 months before requiring a re-application.
Another product I've used with even better results, is Optimum Opti Coat 2.0. This stuff is used on cars (both my cars are coated) and its simply amazing. I have found this product lasts about 12 months with pretty hard wearing.
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Do you mean... 1 kit of fusso coating is only enough for 2 months? I saw a video on YouTube where it says it's necessary to reapply after a couple of days 2 or 3 times more in order to works perfectly. That makes me think... One kit=one protection?
About optimum coat.. Did you apply it directly on the glass surface or it works as well on a plastic screen protector? I'm asking because Xperia Z comes with a factory pre applied screen protector made of plastic, very slippery, fingerprint and dust magnet and very hard to clean up that they call Anti Shatter film...

if I am not getting it wrong, this only make fingerprints easier to clean but not reducing them. is it?

I got some anti-glare screen protectors for the front and back. They don't leave any fingerprints on them at all. Maybe try them instead.
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*boy*racer* said:
I got some anti-glare screen protectors for the front and back. They don't leave any fingerprints on them at all. Maybe try them instead.
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I think it will also turn the back less slippery, right? It must be a way to get a better grip without covering this beautiful phone with some case...

Removed Front screen protector.

As the title states I removed the front screen protector, the Sony logo also came with it. ( clove.co.uk )
I had a few fine scratches on the protector already and could see them when the backlight was on, so I had planned on doing it at some stage. I was sat outside in the sun and had the Z and S Xperia side by side, the screen on the Z was getting a little washed out compared to the S. I believe the protector causes a lot of this, I have taken it off all my previous Sony devices and each time it's resulted in a clearer screen and more touch responsiveness.
When I took the picture the protector was halfway off, maybe you can see the difference in the picture. It can certainly be seen in real life.
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I'm starting to get little scratches on my protector, and was thinking of doing the same....
How hard was it to do, and is there a nasty tacky residue left behind?
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is it true, that removing anti-shatter film void your waranty?

Rutifruti said:
is it true, that removing anti-shatter film void your waranty?
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Very much doubt that's true - you're only removing a piece of film.

Rutifruti said:
is it true, that removing anti-shatter film void your waranty?
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That's not true, confirmed by Sony.
Also, i wonder if we can buy screen protectors with Sony logo on them. I'm not planning on removing mine as I applied another one on top of it, but for those who did and want the logo back it'd be nice.

I've been searching online for any original Sony films - but so far have found none.
If I'm going to remove it because of scratches, I want to replace it with the same thing I took off

Rutifruti said:
is it true, that removing anti-shatter film void your waranty?
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I can't imagine why, unless you dropped it and the screen shattered. I've done it on every Sony device I've had, Neo, Arc, Tablet S, XS, XZ,
The screen was not sticky but like extremely clean glass, my finger didn't slide smoothley, after a clean with a damp cloth it was perfect.

desfix - thanks for the info.
Have the viewing angles & colour improved?

Why do people care so much about "viewing angles"? every single phone I had I looked straight on. And before noone cared about viewing angles, they even made privacy screens, which obviously have extremely low viewing angles...for privacy...I would rather people not see my perverted conversations on my phone while im out in public anyway lolz

I don't particularly care about viewing angles either - I'm curious to know if removing the film changes the way the panel looks.

adamsweeting said:
I don't particularly care about viewing angles either - I'm curious to know if removing the film changes the way the panel looks.
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It does look crisper, I can't confirm if the viewing angles have improved or not, it probably has, but I can't remember and it's not something that can be measured anyway.
The screen protector always reduced screen visibility in my opinion due to internal reflection between the different layers.
It was quite easy to remove this time, the phone was warm (in my hand) and I just picked at a corner with my nail, peeling it off slowly along the length of the phone.

defsix said:
It does look crisper, I can't confirm if the viewing angles have improved or not, it probably has, but I can't remember and it's not something that can be measured anyway.
The screen protector always reduced screen visibility in my opinion due to internal reflection between the different layers.
It was quite easy to remove this time, the phone was warm (in my hand) and I just picked at a corner with my nail, peeling it off slowly along the length of the phone.
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Does removing the ASPL remove oleophobic coating too? I am tempted to remove the ASPL myself but the only thing stopping me is the oleophobic coating...

Thanks again for the info.
Are you going to leave it as bare glass now? (No screen protector)
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Perceived difference in image brightness?
The image was crisper, clearer, brighter than with the film?

Does the back also come with a protector? Is it recommended to use some glass protector for the back?

ZeroInfinity said:
Does removing the ASPL remove oleophobic coating too? I am tempted to remove the ASPL myself but the only thing stopping me is the oleophobic coating...
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I couldn't say, the water still beads off quickly, finger prints clean off a lot easier and it's no longer a dust magnet . Does anything else matter?
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adamsweeting said:
Thanks again for the info.
Are you going to leave it as bare glass now? (No screen protector)
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No. Never. Naked and free. I have a CaseMate for the days I'm feeling awkward.
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BR4DOKYBrazil said:
Perceived difference in image brightness?
The image was crisper, clearer, brighter than with the film?
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In day light, especially in the sun you notice the difference. When the only light is the phones backlight it's exactly as before.
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anjath said:
Does the back also come with a protector? Is it recommended to use some glass protector for the back?
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The back comes with a screen protector too, at work I usually have my CaseMate on and that protects the back and sides completely. At the weekends I like to go bareback, as of today I have no scratches on the back or sides at all.
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adamsweeting said:
I've been searching online for any original Sony films - but so far have found none.
If I'm going to remove it because of scratches, I want to replace it with the same thing I took off
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I have my contact at Sony checking on the possibility of getting stock films from them. I'll let you all know what he says.
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Gorilla Glass 2 easily cracks..

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So, it was an unfortunate day for me. My Note 2 (GT-N7100) slipped from my hand from a height of just 1.5 feet (approx.). I had a flip cover installed. As I was walking, I as holding the device chest-high (i'm 5'10"). That was the height when the phone slipped form my hand. reacting in milliseconds, I tried to get hold of my beloved Note2 and even caught the flap of the flip cover. But, to my bad luck, the locks of the flip opened, and the phone fell on concrete face down from a height of about 1.5 feet. I thought everything is fine, but as soon as I turned the device to see the display, I felt like hell. When I checked the device, I got to know that it was the front glass that was damaged, but the touch and everything was working just perfect.
Now, the guys at Samsung service center told me that whole touch will be replaced, and it will cost me INR 7000. On a little Googling, I came to know that the front glass can be changed manually, but after watching a YouTube video, i knew that I'm not going to follow that procedure myself. So, I've decided to get it done at the Samsung service. Cant imagine a single day without these kind of devices. I'll get the job done soon...

From the picture we can see where the bottom corner hit first.
Sucks but that's what's going to happen if you get a good corner impact.
Doesn't mean that GG is easily broken. Just means you had a spell of bad luck.

Not just Gorilla Glass.. 90% of the time any phone, with whatever type of glass will break from that type of drop.
Maybe with the arrival of the flexible displays, will finally see phones able to survive a drop..

The display is pasted with gum onto the glass. Both will have to be replaced, sorry about that.
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That's unfortunate. Many cases of gorilla glass on note 2 and s3 getting shattered. I use silicon cover which protects the corners. Flip covers offer no protection.
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Sorry to hear that mate.
I've never liked those flip cases as I've always thought they leave the phone pretty exposed. Maybe look into a normal type silicon (thin case) and perhaps a tempered glass screen protector.
Thankfully I've not dropped it to find out, but I've heard good things about a thin case + tempered glass screen protector if you don't want a super big protectivr case on it.

So sorry for you, all my friends have cracked displays, thank god i don't..
It's also so random, a friend dropped his phone (LG O2X) from about 30 cm's and it broke..
I threw my phone (LG O2X) against a wall multiple times, and i smacked in on the floor a few times, and it did not break...

Ya. I knew my luck was really bad

note 2 doesn't have GG2 anyways. i feel for you tho', broke my one x some time ago in the same way..
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That's hard luck. My Note 2 has fallen from waist height face down onto bathroom tile but survived with no scratches and cracks, but a very very minute chip to the bottom left of the phone. Maybe I got REALLY lucky.
I think beyond a certain height, the phone cannot take a fall. Also, I refrain from using the flip cover because it makes one handed usage very hard ( and the causes of such falls to be honest ).

ABHIII said:
That's unfortunate. Many cases of gorilla glass on note 2 and s3 getting shattered. I use silicon cover which protects the corners. Flip covers offer no protection.
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Silicon covers offer far better protection than flip covers, I've dropped mine several times now and don't have dents or scratches! Just 2 sharp dents on my screen protector:good:

Breaking news! Another person dropped a glass touchscreen phone on the CONCRETE and the GLASS cracked! ! ! Who would have thought.
It's called gorilla GLASS, not gorilla DIAMOND! ! ! !
Ok, on serious note... Sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you and your family during this difficult time.

I've cracked my screen to.... local Samsung service center told me that they can replace only glass if touchscreen is working and only for 120$ instead of 250$ for whole touchscreen
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ABHIII said:
That's unfortunate. Many cases of gorilla glass on note 2 and s3 getting shattered. I use silicon cover which protects the corners. Flip covers offer no protection.
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Thats what I use for Note2 protection..silicon cases offers best protection compared to flip covers..flip cover only protects display but screen guard is good alternative.it doesn't protects the border anyways.
Silicon covers protects the phone from every kind of damage..here's pic of my silicon cover
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