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Screen protector or no?

I was just wondering what your guys thoughts were on screen protects for this phone. I've used them on my last 2 devices, but I've read this phone is susposed to have supper tuff screen. I have a protector on now, but it really messes with the colors on the screen and I wanna take it off.
Anyone scratched the screen yet?

I will never use screen protectors again. After countless frustrations with them, like getting dust under the film or sticky feeling textures, I'm done. I love the way a glass screen feels.
I'm a pretty careful person. I never put my keys in the same pocket or drop the phone. So for me, no protection is just fine.

My moment, evo and epic all had zepp screen protectors. So what it's got a tougher screen, wouldn't you feel better you're protecting your investment? This phone wasn't cheap.
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I've gone to best buy and had them put it on. My epic, the first one was messed up so they got another one. They've been trained to put these on. They've put many on. If there's a problem or one is messed up, they'll get another one. Yeah you pay for installation, but if they don't do a good job, they'll redo it. Try that yourself...
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I have literally taken my keys and dared my friends to TRY and scratch my screen... as hard as we tried... couldn't make even the smallest scratch... took some balls to try it the first time by myself tho haha... once you realize how amazing this gorilla glass is you will feel sooo much better about it.
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And they have better tools at their disposal than thee primitive ones that come in the package.
Another alternative, take the package and the phone to a good window tinting place. They know how to get it perfect. After they stop laughing at you for bringing in a phone...
Since it's such a pita to put those things on, let the pros do it.
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I just had one put on by bestbuy today. I had previously used a zagg and installed it myself when I was a crackberry user. This time I said hell no im paying to get it done. It seems to have a slight effect on the way the capacitive buttons work(not as sensitive as before) but I had read that is a potential problem. Personally id rather have an ugly screen protector then a potentially permanent scratch on the screen...

Wait, you people put a screen protector that CAN be damaged on a screen that CAN'T be damaged? <facepalm>

Get Zagg sheild protector for the epic....their protectors are amazing

I got a clarivue on mine, it was easy to install, no watery mess, it uses static, and it is super clear and not noticeable. It doesn't affect the capacitive buttons on the bottom and the screen doesn't feel weird like those other protectors do.
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I initially bought the Sprint screen protector at the store on release day and had it on for a few days. Unfortunately, I wasn't very happy with the way the screen looked (even giving it 4 days or so to clear out).
I took it off and was amazed to have the normal screen back. It's been a few days since then and not a single inkling of a scratch on it.

I've got a clairvue and a realook screen protector in the mail right now and I just peeled off the generic protector I was using. I am gonna go with a naked screen until I get near my 30 day limit and see how it looks.

I dropped mine getting out of my car last week, it fell maybe a foot and it now has tiny scratches on the top and bottom but thankfully not on the display itself. Bought a screen protector the next day.

Here is the flow chart and a video to help you make your choice:
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I love that video, which is why I didn't get a screen protector.
Mine did not survive unscathed a drop that was a fraction of what his did.
I know it is my fault, I'm the idiot that let it get dropped. I just want to let people know the Epic 4g is not as scratch-proof as that video leaves you to believe.

I've seen a couple drop test that show the screen does scratch from a 1 foot. I just HATE the sprint protector. I've had sheilds from ZAGG before and really liked them. I guess I"ll get another for this phone.
FYI: do not get the sprint screen protector.
1. It does not protect the entire front face, only the screen itself. EVEN though the reps will tell you it covers the entire front of the phone.
2. It really screws up the colors of the screen, white seems to be a bit of green/blue/red not a real white.
3. It makes the screen harder to see in sun light.
4. It sucks.
5. ?????

If you are in the edge or unsure if you should get a protector, get one from stealthguards.com for just 2.85 shipping and they are exactly like the zagg material. I ordered one for my epic and haven't got it yet but the one I got for my iPod works great.

I ordered a phantom skinz, I have a generic one on until it gets here. Rep told me it was a bad idea to cover the whole glass, because it could mess with the front facing camera. I covered as much as I could with it and it looks stupid only being partially covered. Hoping the skin gets here tomorrow.

got my ghost armor on order will have a review and pics up of it, had zagg on my hero and loved it. seems to be reports that ga is better so imma try them. dont use the front facing cam as i know one person who has qik and i dont talk to them much

I was stupid and had my phone in the same pocket as my keys. I did this for 2 years w/ my iphone 3g and it didn't have a single scratch on the screen. 1 week with this epic and there are micro scratches everywhere. Do not believe the hype about the screen durability, get a screen protector if u're going to put them in the same pocket w/ anything that might scratch it (keys, coins, etc).

[INFO] Gorilla Glass can scratch!

Just an FYI for people.
A screen protector is always a good investment, it also does a great job of keeping finer prints down.

Zach Alt said:
Just an FYI for people.
A screen protector is always a good investment, it also does a great job of keeping finer prints down.
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Was there really a need for a thread saying you can scratch glass? Not being a jerk, just wondering

Also a heads up, if you punt it across the room it might break.

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Was there really a need for a thread saying you can scratch glass? Not being a jerk, just wondering
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Yes, this is in regards to posts in the availability thread at the top. You would be surprised at the amount of people that think Gorilla Glass is impervious to all scratches.

also get a matte screen cover that glossy ass screen for the LOSS

Another FYI for people is you should always walk around with a surgical mask and rubber gloves on because that'll reduce you risk of catching any germs!

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Another FYI for people is you should always walk around with a surgical mask and rubber gloves on because that'll reduce you risk of catching any germs!
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I tend to resell my tablets & cellphones when I upgrade so having a screen protector on them is a must. Plus, I rather be safe than sorry.

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Waiting on Steinheil ultra clear protector.
Have that on my Evo and it's great. So much better than zagg/invisiblesheild/etc.

I like the zagg/invisible shield for the reason most hate them, the orange peel.
Feels better, and it destroys fingerprints, and glare.

Zach Alt said:
Yes, this is in regards to posts in the availability thread at the top. You would be surprised at the amount of people that think Gorilla Glass is impervious to all scratches.
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I posted in that thread about me not using a screen protector. I don't put my device in a position that it would be that likely to get scratched. nothing is impervious, but you'd be surprised at how tough good glass can be. I just can't stand how my device looks and feels after putting on any screen protector.

In my experience with Gorilla Glass (on my Droid X) I haven't put a screen protector and the screen is still flawless. I have had it sitting on my lap in my SUV and as I exited the car it fell face down on the asphalt. Metal was nicked, screen was gorgeous as ever...
With a tablet... who's going to drop a tablet... Dont waste your money.

unless you grind sand or a diamond on your screen then you really don't need a screen protector....
Other things that might break the screen like dropping it from an airplane will more than likely break the plastic shell of the tab plus the processor and anything inside..

starplaya93 said:
unless you grind sand or a diamond on your screen then you really don't need a screen protector....
Other things that might break the screen like dropping it from an airplane will more than likely break the plastic shell of the tab plus the processor and anything inside..
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Yeah, wrong. I scratched my iPhone with a ruler. And I scratched my EVO with a screwdriver.
It happens.

Zach Alt said:
Yeah, wrong. I scratched my iPhone with a ruler. And I scratched my EVO with a screwdriver.
It happens.
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were you purposely trying to scratch your device?
I can't imagine your phones getting scratched by a screwdriver or ruler unless you were purposely trying to do so. You would of had to used a lot of force and purposely and aggressively rub the ruler/screwdriver on your device...
The thing is... Who in their right mind would do that?

Gorilla glass does scratch. if you are unlucky it can scratch given a fairly light contact with the wrong item!
It is much better than standard glass. It IS scratch resistant. But it CAN scratch!!
I have a couple of scratches on my Dell Streak from being in contact with keys.
I also have a scuff, across the screen, from dropping on the road.
However.. I won't be putting on a screen protector on my tablet. When I carry it, it wont be in my pocket, it will be in a neoprene case.

RedMist said:
Gorilla glass does scratch. if you are unlucky it can scratch given a fairly light contact with the wrong item!
It is much better than standard glass. It IS scratch resistant. But it CAN scratch!!
I have a couple of scratches on my Dell Streak from being in contact with keys.
I also have a scuff, across the screen, from dropping on the road.
However.. I won't be putting on a screen protector on my tablet. When I carry it, it wont be in my pocket, it will be in a neoprene case.
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gorilla glass can definitely get scratched, however i'v had my phone in my pocket with my keys plenty of times and the screen has never been harmed... The way I see it, if I do something terrible enough to my device that leads to the screen scratching then more than likely I probably destroyed the entire thing.

ive scratched my transformer, not sure how it happened!

Scratches on your Xperia Arc/Arc S

Besides the Crack Issue on Xperia Arc, Lets Discuss Scratches on our Xperia Arc
My Arc is Misty Silver, I've been using it for 8 months, I don't use Casing(Leather Case/TPU Gel Case etc), just straight to my pocket, No Keys, Coins etc
My Arc don't have cracks or chrome peeling, some minor scratches on the screen though(shatter proof sheet still intact)
I have tried using ZAGG Ishield Maximum Coverage for Xperia Arc, but it didn't last long, It collects dirt easily on the sides, transparency becoming less, and some parts are peeling, also it can't protect it from the scratches I got, so I have decided to remove it after 2 months of use.
I have a friend whose using a soft pouch included in the box, but his arc also suffers the same scratches on my Arc
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And there is a hole on my Shatter proof sheet, I don't know where I got it.

my 4 months old misty silver arc had many scratches on the chrome(bezel and button) but no peeling.
And my 8 months backcover had many scratches too but i cant see it if
you not look really close/u need brightness to see it.
I bought my arc in april and they replacing it in october .
i always use capdase softjacket and sometimes SE pouch

My midnight blue one has the same on the battery door opening cutout and the back cover is scratched all over with fine scratches - only visible in direkt sunlight and the same is on the painted front parts. Screen and chrome parts are fine.
Using it naked and putting it in my pocket jeans without keys or anything else.
Really cheap stuff if it scratches from that.
It's 8 months and 4 days old
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My midnight blue arc has some scratches on the screen and back cover, I kinda gave up using a screen protector, I might remove the shatterproof sheet if it gets really bad. A crack has unfortunately recently appeared above the light sensor, but other then that everything else is fine no peeling of the chrome, though the battery cover at the end when you pick it off has paint chipped off, no biggie though cos its just the back cover, if it gets worse I'll just buy a new one.
Since I got the phone in June I've used a neoprene case, which does the job well. I'd recommend this over getting gimmicky (and horrible) plastic covers which make the phone feel big and look ugly

You can get new battery covers on eBay for £5. I'm going to buy a couple as spares as my cover is getting a bit scratched.
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I know, but makes no sense when it's scratched again after a month
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What is this shatter proof sheet you speak of?

A factory applied screen protector.
I removed it
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Flo95 said:
A factory applied screen protector.
I removed it
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Does the screen feel better once removed? Easier to clean prints off? Scratch easily?

brian85 said:
Does the screen feel better once removed? Easier to clean prints off? Scratch easily?
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They say the Scratch Resistant Mineral Glass got some Oleophobic coating, better sensitivity, and the screen will be brighter if you removed factory applied protector

brian85 said:
Does the screen feel better once removed? Easier to clean prints off? Scratch easily?
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The screen feels a lot better. Really easy to use. Smooth. But definitely is not easy to clean. It's a fingerprints magnet. About scratches, I've been using it naked for just a week on my pants pocket. I seriously doubt it will get a scratch. It is not a gorilla display, but the glass seems sturdy enough.

My Arc have scratches on the buttons and display protector, but it's ok

rafuru said:
My Arc have scratches on the buttons and display protector, but it's ok
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Oh yea my arc got some light scratches on the buttons.
Im not sure why the phone gets scratches on the bottom part of the phone, maybe when inserting it in the pocket

mhyke13ph said:
Oh yea my arc got some light scratches on the buttons.
Im not sure why the phone gets scratches on the bottom part of the phone, maybe when inserting it in the pocket
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Dropped my Arc S on a night out.. more than just a few light scratches now!

i use this Bumper on the rough days
http://www.gilddesign.com/en/xperiaarc.html
like it or not , my arc still is scratchless surviving many falls, pockets, car holders etc
i also have an antifinger print screen sprotector from sgp store
hope they aslo make the bumper for the new Sony phones

Gorilla Glass 2 easily cracks..

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So, it was an unfortunate day for me. My Note 2 (GT-N7100) slipped from my hand from a height of just 1.5 feet (approx.). I had a flip cover installed. As I was walking, I as holding the device chest-high (i'm 5'10"). That was the height when the phone slipped form my hand. reacting in milliseconds, I tried to get hold of my beloved Note2 and even caught the flap of the flip cover. But, to my bad luck, the locks of the flip opened, and the phone fell on concrete face down from a height of about 1.5 feet. I thought everything is fine, but as soon as I turned the device to see the display, I felt like hell. When I checked the device, I got to know that it was the front glass that was damaged, but the touch and everything was working just perfect.
Now, the guys at Samsung service center told me that whole touch will be replaced, and it will cost me INR 7000. On a little Googling, I came to know that the front glass can be changed manually, but after watching a YouTube video, i knew that I'm not going to follow that procedure myself. So, I've decided to get it done at the Samsung service. Cant imagine a single day without these kind of devices. I'll get the job done soon...

From the picture we can see where the bottom corner hit first.
Sucks but that's what's going to happen if you get a good corner impact.
Doesn't mean that GG is easily broken. Just means you had a spell of bad luck.

Not just Gorilla Glass.. 90% of the time any phone, with whatever type of glass will break from that type of drop.
Maybe with the arrival of the flexible displays, will finally see phones able to survive a drop..

The display is pasted with gum onto the glass. Both will have to be replaced, sorry about that.
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That's unfortunate. Many cases of gorilla glass on note 2 and s3 getting shattered. I use silicon cover which protects the corners. Flip covers offer no protection.
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Sorry to hear that mate.
I've never liked those flip cases as I've always thought they leave the phone pretty exposed. Maybe look into a normal type silicon (thin case) and perhaps a tempered glass screen protector.
Thankfully I've not dropped it to find out, but I've heard good things about a thin case + tempered glass screen protector if you don't want a super big protectivr case on it.

So sorry for you, all my friends have cracked displays, thank god i don't..
It's also so random, a friend dropped his phone (LG O2X) from about 30 cm's and it broke..
I threw my phone (LG O2X) against a wall multiple times, and i smacked in on the floor a few times, and it did not break...

Ya. I knew my luck was really bad

note 2 doesn't have GG2 anyways. i feel for you tho', broke my one x some time ago in the same way..
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That's hard luck. My Note 2 has fallen from waist height face down onto bathroom tile but survived with no scratches and cracks, but a very very minute chip to the bottom left of the phone. Maybe I got REALLY lucky.
I think beyond a certain height, the phone cannot take a fall. Also, I refrain from using the flip cover because it makes one handed usage very hard ( and the causes of such falls to be honest ).

ABHIII said:
That's unfortunate. Many cases of gorilla glass on note 2 and s3 getting shattered. I use silicon cover which protects the corners. Flip covers offer no protection.
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Silicon covers offer far better protection than flip covers, I've dropped mine several times now and don't have dents or scratches! Just 2 sharp dents on my screen protector:good:

Breaking news! Another person dropped a glass touchscreen phone on the CONCRETE and the GLASS cracked! ! ! Who would have thought.
It's called gorilla GLASS, not gorilla DIAMOND! ! ! !
Ok, on serious note... Sorry for your loss. My thoughts are with you and your family during this difficult time.

I've cracked my screen to.... local Samsung service center told me that they can replace only glass if touchscreen is working and only for 120$ instead of 250$ for whole touchscreen
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ABHIII said:
That's unfortunate. Many cases of gorilla glass on note 2 and s3 getting shattered. I use silicon cover which protects the corners. Flip covers offer no protection.
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Thats what I use for Note2 protection..silicon cases offers best protection compared to flip covers..flip cover only protects display but screen guard is good alternative.it doesn't protects the border anyways.
Silicon covers protects the phone from every kind of damage..here's pic of my silicon cover
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Case or Raw Dog?

Simple question. Do you rock a case on the Note 3, or are you running it raw dog style?
I've now tried two cases, the Spigen Neo Hybrid and the UAG. Didnt like the Spigen at all. Love the storm trooper look of the UAG but that thing is nearly impossible to remove and it doubles the thickness of the phone. Plus, as a huge fan of the appearance of the Note3, I'm not sure I'd really like any case at all.
Thinking of throwing a tempered glass protector on the screen and calling it good.

I run it naked.

I love the look too, but not the feel. The leather appearance of the back looks great but gives very little grip. I have an otterbox defender and that same old patterned belt clip/holster that Verizon has been selling for years with their smartphones. I almost bought that spigen s-view case until I saw pictures of how it cracked one user's screen. I don't really like cases on my phone either but i'm not brave enough to go without a case. Samsung phones have been known to be kinda fragile.
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Case. Don't remember who makes it, but it's sturdy.
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It slips over the top and bottom, rather than back/front. So it will not pop off when you drop it.
And it has a kickstand on the back!
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Case. Don't remember who makes it, but it's sturdy.
It slips over the top and bottom, rather than back/front. So it will not pop off when you drop it.
And it has a kickstand on the back!
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That's a Platinum brand case... sold at Best Buy. They are expensive... The markup is over 90%...employees pay sub $5
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teejaymarx said:
That's a Platinum brand case... sold at Best Buy. They are expensive... The markup is over 90%...employees pay sub $5
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Yeah, I think I paid $30-ish for it. Had one for my last phone, an S3. Dropped it 3 stories off a balcony onto a sidewalk. There was a decent dash on the case, but no phone damage. Definitely worth it.
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I love running the Note 3 naked. The only issue is that the back gets slippery at times. I had my first drop today ?. I like my Spigen case, but it's difficult to plug headphones in sometimes.
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I run it naked as well. I'm actually more worried about scratching the display since I haven't dropped a phone in many years (knock on wood!). I've been contemplating getting the S view cover since it doesn't add to the thickness at all, but I use the phone so much it would be such a hassle to keep having to open it (and hold it open while using it).
I'm insanely ocd about the display because it somehow got scratched on my last phone (gnex) like a month after I bought it, just by putting it display side down on a table. It bothered the hell out of me for the following 23 months straight. Scratch resistant my ass.
I've tried a few glass screen protectors but they eventually peel away at the edges and it looks horrible. Suffice to say I'll never put ANY phone display side down again, and I always have a death grip on it when I'm using it...so I'm good to go.

Poetic Borderline bumper case because it's just enough protection without getting in the way. And it fits the slightly thicker Samsung wireless charging cover.
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Spigen Glas-Tr slim to protect the screen and depending on my mood either a TPU or metal bumper. The back is like $10 to replace if it ever gets scratched up so I don't bother putting anything on the back except for a FlyGrip to help me one-hand the phone. I did order a white back so I go back and forth between them - the white back looks cool w a metal bumper.

siciliano777 said:
I run it naked as well. I'm actually more worried about scratching the display since I haven't dropped a phone in many years (knock on wood!). I've been contemplating getting the S view cover since it doesn't add to the thickness at all, but I use the phone so much it would be such a hassle to keep having to open it (and hold it open while using it).
I'm insanely ocd about the display because it somehow got scratched on my last phone (gnex) like a month after I bought it, just by putting it display side down on a table. It bothered the hell out of me for the following 23 months straight. Scratch resistant my ass.
I've tried a few glass screen protectors but they eventually peel away at the edges and it looks horrible. Suffice to say I'll never put ANY phone display side down again, and I always have a death grip on it when I'm using it...so I'm good to go.
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That phone is why I won't buy anything without gorilla glass again. It got scratched on something in my pocket. Except there wasn't anything in my pocket.
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That phone is why I won't buy anything without gorilla glass again. It got scratched on something in my pocket. Except there wasn't anything in my pocket.
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I always thought the gnex had gorilla glass...??? That's why I'm so paranoid about this phone. I know it's obviously a much newer technology as far as the glass, but I'm paranoid nonetheless.
I would love to see a legitimate scratch test done. I could only find one test done and it was with a knife, and wasn't really that clear. When the hell would I ever scratch the display with a knife?!?
They need to do some common sense, real world testing...i.e. putting the phone in and out of jean pockets with the metal rivets on them, and with keys and other objects in the pocket. Also placing it display side down on different surfaces and moving it around, etc.