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Well the Behold II is upon and its pretty similar to the Galaxy, so can the great guys here at XDA develop some ROMs for them? We need a separate forum for these phones.
This a forum for HTC phones, so you wont see any new sections for non-hTC devices.
NM I should read.
AdrianK said:
This a forum for HTC phones, so you wont see any new sections for non-hTC devices.
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TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.
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TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.
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The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be
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The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be
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I see a xperia x1 forum...
Rcommander said:
I see a xperia x1 forum...
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Not to be a smart-arse, but the X1 is produced by HTC
brummiesteven said:
TBH The name of this forum is "Android Software Development" and whilst this is majorly a HTC forum and Samsung devices would never get their own subforum, I see no problem with Behold2/Galaxy android development going on in this forum.
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I believe that was one of the reasons for this subforum ;-)
There is also a Palm Pre sub forum and I don't believe that is made by HTC.
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There is also a Palm Pre sub forum and I don't believe that is made by HTC.
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Hmmmmm...Don't see a Palm Pre sub-forum, maybe I am having trouble with my eyes...
If perchance you mean the Palm Treo 750, then you would be mistaken as it is in fact manufactured by HTC...as is every single device that has its own sub-forum on XDA.
I just want to see these devices rooted so we can installed the better Samsung music, video player(I think there is divx support), and if possible the camera software also.
Hey Everyone I posted a new thread with some updated information about the BH2 which may have us one step closer to perm root and recovery and custom ROMS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=597501
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The majority of the site isnt HTC the whole site is HTC lol there mite be some off topic talk about other devices but its not officially supported by the site an never will be
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Then allow me to ask an obvious question: Why would a presumably independent user-run internet forum like this one devote itself entirely and exclusively to one specific manufacturer? Assuming that HTC doesn't actually own this forum, why is such blatant favoritism/discrimination taking place? Does HTC pay some kind of fee to have XDA dedicated entirely to its devices only? I don't get it. Why the preferential treatment?
Don't be disrespectful ... READ the history of XDA and why it came about before you guys take on XDA .,.,., Instead of demanding a forum , lets see if we can get some of the devs interested in these units.... First thing first ,they need to have the phone in hand to work on them , so find one willing and lets get that dev a phone to hack...some of you guys kno how to get a second phone @ no cost (**cough**lost **cough**phone)so do it .,. lets get them hacking this beautiful unit ,.,..,
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Then allow me to ask an obvious question: Why would a presumably independent user-run internet forum like this one devote itself entirely and exclusively to one specific manufacturer? Assuming that HTC doesn't actually own this forum, why is such blatant favoritism/discrimination taking place? Does HTC pay some kind of fee to have XDA dedicated entirely to its devices only? I don't get it. Why the preferential treatment?
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That is like asking Tmonews.com why they only have T-Mobile specific forums and not AT&T and Verizon and Orange and Roger and some Japanese network. It's because it's there site and they just want to focus on one subject. If you want discussion about different phones then this is a site that is not right for you. The owner just wants HTC and he's paying the bills so he will keep it just HTC.
But this site isn't called HTC-Developers, so it isn't obvious to visitors or members where the HTC devotion/bias comes from. Most people get referred here from other forums when looking for WinMo hacks, ROMs etc, not because they were looking for something HTC-specific.
I've actually been a member and regular visitor of this forum for a couple of years I believe, and this is the first time I've ever even heard of this HTC-centricity. It always seemed more generally Windows Mobile/OS focused than manufacturer specific.
In any case I don't recall challenging the site owner's authority or right to gear the site toward whatever he/she wishes. Rather my question was WHY this is the case, as in WHY the devs are devoted to HTC over other manufacturers. There is a significant difference between asking why something is the case, and suggesting that the owner doesn't have the right to make it so. Saying "because the owner wants it that way" isn't an answer to the question "Why does the owner want it that way?".
I did read the history and realize that the site started years ago based on an early HTC device or two; what I don't understand is why it has remained that way. My first vehicle was a tricycle but that doesn't mean I've stayed a tricycle devotee and ignored bikes and cars even to this day.
Back in those days HTC was mainly just making phones for other companies , like Imate tmobile O2 etc..... and they wont branded HTC but , whatever company it was made for . This site was born based on the lack of support these companies provided, you was always redirected to HTC who inturn sent you to your carrier. It has grown since then mostly windows mobile but now has a fast growing android side . They will support HTC androids , but thankfully some of the hacks work on other android devices ... We just have to get devs intrested in these devices and they can post their work here in the android Development section ... I think this would help us a lot
Its too bad, really: the only downside I find to my current phone (Sammy Moment) is that it isn't supported by XDA. My next phone will more than likely be HTC just because I miss all the value added this community provides.
Well if Im not mistaken the moto droid is Motorola and Motorola is not htc or in any form HTC and the acer infact isnt HTC therefore this hole site isnt HTC....
WHAT IN THE WORLD!
Hey, can we get a ROM or not? I just got this Behold 2 and I know DroidDeveloper managed to flash a Galaxy ROM onto it... what is the issues here? Just post some ROMs or post something productive. This phone has been out since December. Since everybody is cheap, I'll buy a dev a Behold 2 so they can start cooking some ROMs up... come on now...
Rikard Skogberg says:
September 24, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Branimir,
1.will 2.2 ever come to x10?
- like I’ve said earlier: not ruled in nor out at this point, i.e. it might but I can’t promise, sorry.
2.multitouch?
- no such plans commited.
3.flash?
- no such plans commited.
4.16 m colors?
- no such plans commited.
5.camera flash?
- doesn’t seem included in this coming update as far as I can see but I have forwarded feedback on that earlier – will look into it!
http://blogs.sonyericsson.com/products/2010/09/23/update-on-updates/comment-page-19/#comment-64035
Regarding 16 mil. colours:
Why doesn’t X10 have 16 mil. colours with 2.1? Performance problems? Hardware again?
RS says: Sorry but I don’t know the reason at this time. I guess it could be hardware dependant or due to priorities in resources for development. I’ll see if I can find out.
Thanks for the post. It's a bunch of non-answers really but atleast I don't have to browse through the Sony Ericsson blogs to find them.
When they do have a plan - we see delays ... When they do not have plans I suppose it is a clear "no".
So for sure no 16 mil colours and no flash. For multitouch it was clear earlier.
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Thanks for the post. It's a bunch of non-answers really but atleast I don't have to browse through the Sony Ericsson blogs to find them.
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Just go through the comments in the blog...............Rikard was patient enough to answer many questions.....
Thanks for the post OP
would be great if you would update the first post to include what ever he says
Much appreciated
In all honesty, all those answers are like the answers we get from politicians. In other words, they are not answers at all, they are simply evasions.
Update on arabic support from Rikard
I asked him about Arabic support in the coming update, His answer was, i quote,
"I don’t know. I’ve checked my sample here and it doesn’t seem to include Arabic letters at least. But perhaps there could be language additions in the second update, I will try to look into it!"
I have also contacted SE Middle East on their facebook page, they answered that the support for Arabic will be added in November(on old update schedule, i guess). So that may not happens(if it ever happens) until early 2011.
Perhaps we could revive this thread? It would really help a lot of people if you post what Rikard says over here - note, no discussion, just what he posted. Then we don't need to wade through all the 500 comments cursing SE and the spam comments etc
I don't see any helpful answer.
pngface said:
Perhaps we could revive this thread? It would really help a lot of people if you post what Rikard says over here - note, no discussion, just what he posted. Then we don't need to wade through all the 500 comments cursing SE and the spam comments etc
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+1. Keep posting and keep this thread towards the front.
ATM, I feel I'm missing two things only... (anything over these would be a bonus)
1. Camera Flash.
2. In-call-volume.
If SE can do something about this, would be really great.
pretty much sounds like they have 3 devs to make all the new roms lol
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pretty much sounds like they have 3 devs to make all the new roms lol
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LOL, we never know, that might actually be true
And The SE keeps ignoring its customers .......... How will they remain in the market like this if they keep doing **** like they r doing with x10 owners
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And The SE keeps ignoring its customers .......... How will they remain in the market like this if they keep doing **** like they r doing with x10 owners
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Let's not turn this into another bashing and whining thread about SE. If people understood the facts versus jumping on the misinformation bandwagon they might actually enjoy the X10 experience.
Guys.. only what Rikard says in this thread... please no discussion
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Guys.. only what Rikard says in this thread... please no discussion
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Lol. Yes, since that is working out so well. So far there isn't one post about what Rikard says since September.
That's coz Rikard isn't saying anything. I guess he won't say much about the x10 now that the new phones will be announced next week
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That's coz Rikard isn't saying anything. I guess he won't say much about the x10 now that the new phones will be announced next week
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He has since September. He's not going to post it here for us too.
Here's an interesting one... what do we think about this logic?
Q: Why do you lock the boot loader of your devices? Isn’t Android supposed to be open source?
A: Yes, Android is an open source platform. Anyone can download it, modify it to their liking and install it on hardware they have designed. A mobile device is much more than the operating system. In our phones there are functionality that have to be secure such as SIM-lock and DRM. We currently don’t have a solution in place to secure that while opening the bootloader and therefore it would break legal agreements with many of our partners if we do.”
hey there,
i was looking at windows 7 area but little confusing if those for HD2 or not? so is there any posssible way to port WM7 into USA Tmobile HD2? if is then please provide the links, files and details procedure. im a begineer person in all these stuff. need help. thanx
Ishtiak said:
hey there,
i was looking at windows 7 area but little confusing if those for HD2 or not? so is there any posssible way to port WM7 into USA Tmobile HD2? if is then please provide the links, files and details procedure. im a begineer person in all these stuff. need help. thanx
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Use search button and learn or your gonna end up bricking or soft bricking your phone .
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HD2 will fully support Windows 7. It is a supported phone and meets the requirments for buttons, resolution, memory, and speed.
T-Mobile will be releasing a free upgrade to Windows 7 later this year for the HD2. Not sure about others but I am sure the chefs will present 7.0 - I am personally not that excited about it.
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HD2 will fully support Windows 7. It is a supported phone and meets the requirments for buttons, resolution, memory, and speed.
T-Mobile will be releasing a free upgrade to Windows 7 later this year for the HD2. Not sure about others but I am sure the chefs will present 7.0 - I am personally not that excited about it.
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Really, this is the first I've heard of that. Where did you hear/read that from?
falconeyez said:
Really, this is the first I've heard of that. Where did you hear/read that from?
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It's not..... this thread should probably be closed and free_loaderz be banned...
All the information regarding Windows Phone 7 and HD2 is plastered all over the stickies in the 7 forums. You can't miss it if you know how to read.
Here
And here
Doesn't even require a search it's a sticky right on the top..... come on now.
"Windows 7" is an operating system for PCs.
What is "WM7"?
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"Windows 7" is an operating system for PCs.
What is "WM7"?
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It is actually Windows Phone 7
Just the facts folks:
T-Mobile or HTC ARE NOT RELEASING WP7 FOR THE HD2 OR ANY OTHER CURRENT DEVICE
WP7 IS being developed for the HD2....but we don't know if/or it will fully function
Asking for a WP7 ROM or release is grounds for a moderator warning
Please stop posting threads about this.
For further discussion please post in this thread.
It's real, check this out...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/06/htc-hd2-runs-windows-phone-7-makes-us-yearn-for-more-video/
It's awesome. I'm waiting new ROM's with WM7 soon for HD2
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It's not..... this thread should probably be closed and free_loaderz be banned...
All the information regarding Windows Phone 7 and HD2 is plastered all over the stickies in the 7 forums. You can't miss it if you know how to read.
Doesn't even require a search it's a sticky right on the top..... come on now.
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Yeah but you have to admit, this looks to be a marketing ploy to push people into buying the new phones rather than buying the HD2 or equivalent and installing 7 at the time of release. Eventually, basing this assumption on track records and past experience, they will probably release a downloadable installer for those who meet the minimum requirements. But saying that the phone won't see an upgraded OS because of two extra buttons sounds absurd to me.
The MS devs probably also need to focus on a certain hardware set initially and after bugs are corrected we will probably see OS upgrades available, like they were hinting at before all the hype and hoopla. I don't see why you would suggest banning someone for curiosity, sure this is probably annoying to read over and over. But people are excited and you can't blame them.
WP7 will never come to legacy devices...it's been said by HTC and Microsoft both that legacy devices will never get official WP7 upgrades. People that keep hopeing for official updates really need to embrace reality.
I hope some dev about WM7.
Sorry I see now where to post further about this topic.
you taking this way to serious its just questions. you are typing like u mad over there. WE ARE NOT ALL COMPUTER GEEKS like you. chill out and help out or just keep it to yourself really.
This question has been asked HUNDREDS of times though, thats the problem. People don't understand patience.
1000th post w00t w00t!
I just wanted to make this thread in hopes that it would possibly get a sticky or some sort of recognition. I see a lot of people making tons of new threads and comments that I think are pointless and should not be repeated over and over again. More specifically like: The Xoom is "dead", the development scene for the Xoom is going nowhere, why aren't they porting more OS's to the Xoom, and why is the Xoom behind in development... those kinds of things I see people say a lot around here.
The answer: The Honeycomb source code is not, and will not be released by Google... period. They have it locked up tight, and are not letting it out until they feel it is ready to be released to the public. The developers cannot do much more than they already have done without the Honeycomb source code. End of story.
The Xoom development scene does assume that everything will be all set and released with the Ice Cream Sandwich release here in the near future, which indeed makes perfect sense. And, because the Xoom was the first Honeycomb tablet, it's Google's baby: The one and only true and complete vanilla stock Google experience tablet. Thus: It is being protected by Google, if you will.
Maybe we will stop getting loads of threads complaining about the same exact thing. The answer to these questions have already been answered a billions times about 5 months ago when Google said that they will be holding onto the Honeycomb source until further notice. Please read this, everyone. Not trying to be mean or anything, but... I'm surprised that the Mods haven't spoken up about this. I thought one was supposed to read and make sure that the topic they are about to post about hasn't been mentioned yet before making a new thread?
I'm a very nice guy, and I am not one to complain about anything. I love helping people: it's what I do best! But... we do need to get this thing under control. Almost every day I see a new thread or a comment saying something like "the Xoom development scene is dead". This just shouldn't be happening. It's almost like bashing the Xoom in its own home. That's not a healthy thing to do now is it? Or trying to make it look bad and outdated by saying that the scene is dead, when in reality it really is the complete opposite. Overall: It's wasting thread space, causing a lot of annoyances, and a lot of the frequent Xoom posters such as myself are having to repeat themselves a billion times over with every new thread and comment about this topic. Hopefully something can be done about this.
Thanks for listening! All I ask is for people to read before posting these kinds of threads or comments on your friendly neighborhood XDA forums.
Yes, good points diablo2224, and to add to that, all of the improvements and increased functionality that the Team Tiamat and others have brought to the Xoom are really vital to it's continued relevence. Solarnz just gave us a peek at some new goodies in an upgoming rom and they look great! Xoom development is far from dead, source code or no source code.
I've seen the threads and it hasn't deterred me, the fact is Google is a monster company now and them buying Motorola mobility is one of the factors I bought my Xoom the other day... I personally see more to come and can wait
okantomi said:
Yes, good points diablo2224, and to add to that, all of the improvements and increased functionality that the Team Tiamat and others have brought to the Xoom are really vital to it's continued relevence. Solarnz just gave us a peek at some new goodies in an upgoming rom and they look great! Xoom development is far from dead, source code or no source code.
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Indeed. Team Tiamat is really doing an excellent job. Without the source they are doing spectacular! It amazes me at the stuff they have pulled off so far. The new universal rooting method for all Xoom's is quite an impressive feat.
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I've seen the threads and it hasn't deterred me, the fact is Google is a monster company now and them buying Motorola mobility is one of the factors I bought my Xoom the other day... I personally see more to come and can wait
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Personally, the comments and threads don't particularly bother me very much either. I just want the people to know what the situation is, and why the scene has been "slower" than the other Honeycomb tablets. And to stop making negative comments towards the Xoom in that factor. If we all were a little more knowledgeable about reasoning rather than rationality... I think the comments and threads about this would come to a halt as we would all be on the same page.
" The Honeycomb source code is not, and will not be released by Google... period."
This isn't entirely true... just because its not out doesn't mean its not coming out.
They were waiting for ICS to be released first since Ice cream sandwich shares a lot of the code base of Honeycomb.... I imagine its going to be out sometime during the holidays.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/google-keeping-honeycomb-source-code-on-ice-says-its-not-ready/
That Engadget post is over 6 months old...
The official word as of today is they will never release the Honeycomb source code, and the ICS source code will be released a few weeks after the launch of the Galaxy Nexus.
why no HC sources? Well, the reason behind the decision to not release it still stands: it was an interim release meant at the tablet market, and they didn't want everyone to jump on it and release phones and what-not based on that code. ICS is the solution to that problem.
Just tell us we'll have unimaginable coolness on our Xooms.
I spoke to tech support last night and they did not have any information regarding this model of the Galaxy Note 10.1. Since they didn't seem very knowledgeable I sent Samsung support an email where I stated that while I do enjoy my tablet I'm rather taken aback by the lack of updates. I requested that they at least state that they're not releasing updates for this instead of having us keep hoping.
I got this reply earlier this afternoon:
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Dear Steve ****,
Thank you for contacting Samsung. I understand that you are not happy with the Samsung Note as there are no updates on it.
I know how you feel as a customer. If I had been in your situation, I would feel the same.
If you are referring to the GT-N8013 Note, I am afraid to inform that, latest version available is 4.1.2. I do understand that must make you feel upset. We do not have any information on release of updates on your tablet model. I do not want to provide any false information. Hope you understand.
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This obviously doesn't mean other tablets won't get updates and it's clear that the 2014 Galaxy Note 10.1 will, but it is a little refreshing to at least know not to expect anything. Disappointing, but refreshing. Hopefully this'll clarify any doubts.
Maybe I'll start working on a ROM for it. Haven't made one in a while.
Where did they say that no updates are coming? They said none are available and they don't have any information to provide on when they would be coming. Samsung has already officially announced that the tablet will be being updated to 4.4
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You're wrong.
Typical Tear 1 Customer Service note
Those people would not even know a update if its code were Tattooed on there face .
These people are trained to answer questions in a way to keep the customer from Asking more. He told you EXACTLY What you ask him to Hear.Why did you not Quote the Official List and Update release comments on samsung mobile. Maybe he might have looked into it..
Anyway Just like my post to this threat This Thread is a waste and a Place for Tempers to flair..
Enjoy your TABLET No real need to chase updates. My note works perfect as it is. Thou i would enjoy the new update its not killing me not having it..
Good Luck.
Nothing to see here...
Your question: - when are we getting an update?
Their answer: We don't know anything.
This thread is so pointless! its already been confirmed so I don't understand why you posted this.
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Cozmo1 said:
I spoke to tech support last night and they did not have any information regarding this model of the Galaxy Note 10.1. Since they didn't seem very knowledgeable I sent Samsung support an email where I stated that while I do enjoy my tablet I'm rather taken aback by the lack of updates. I requested that they at least state that they're not releasing updates for this instead of having us keep hoping.
I got this reply earlier this afternoon:
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Dear Steve ****,
Thank you for contacting Samsung. I understand that you are not happy with the Samsung Note as there are no updates on it.
I know how you feel as a customer. If I had been in your situation, I would feel the same.
If you are referring to the GT-N8013 Note, I am afraid to inform that, latest version available is 4.1.2. I do understand that must make you feel upset. We do not have any information on release of updates on your tablet model. I do not want to provide any false information. Hope you understand.
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This obviously doesn't mean other tablets won't get updates and it's clear that the 2014 Galaxy Note 10.1 will, but it is a little refreshing to at least know not to expect anything. Disappointing, but refreshing. Hopefully this'll clarify any doubts.
Maybe I'll start working on a ROM for it. Haven't made one in a while.
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False title as the body of the OP conflicts with it. Do we really need threads like this? Do we not have better things to do?
*Thread Reported
When do you realize that the Samsung support is just a joke - nothing more or less... They have no info, they don't know anything and if something happens, they know it last... Sorry, but that I feel about them.
This thread is useless. There's official information out there sent out by Samsung's Press Dpt. Why did you even bother asking a tech guy/tech support when one says one thing and another says something else? Like:
- "Your tablet will get the Android OS update" (LOL, no mention of version nor anything else)
- "The Galaxy Note will get 4.2 Android update" (Yeah.....)
- "No updates"
- "No info"
Basically that resumes how useless this information was to our forums (it does not contribute to anything, really). So please request to delete this. Or you could've at least posted in the appropriate thread.
Android hater everybody know the Official Announcement from the coming update.
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This thread is useless. There's official information out there sent out by Samsung's Press Dpt. Why did you even bother asking a tech guy/tech support when one says one thing and another says something else? Like:
- "Your tablet will get the Android OS update" (LOL, no mention of version nor anything else)
- "The Galaxy Note will get 4.2 Android update" (Yeah.....)
- "No updates"
- "No info"
Basically that resumes how useless this information was to our forums (it does not contribute to anything, really). So please request to delete this. Or you could've at least posted in the appropriate thread.
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What floors me is that the OP is not a newbie here, I would have expected more from someone of that caliber.
Not to mention I as a Cowboy's Fan would expect more from a Texan.
Please use the existing thread for the upcoming update.
Thread closed.