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Custom Kernel Devs

Seems its gone quiet on the rom/updates for most cookers , this prob because they are all at work on a new custom kernel for their roms like j, WB etc , what goodies will be activated by them and what release kernel will you be using ? as i see on freexperia hub both the .29 and 32 have been worked on? , will you all be dropping froyo and jumping straight to Gingerbread ? i like GB but for some reason i like froyo better WB v5 with custom .32 rom would be top notch
Mark

The only thing everyone wants is 16m colors and 30+ fps. Noone wants new stupid boot animation.
-Justas

yep. I dont mind much for the fps cap but its probably cause I dont know what im missing. The most important to me is 16m colours.

soldiers33 said:
yep. I dont mind much for the fps cap but its probably cause I dont know what im missing. The most important to me is 16m colours.
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believe me, you do If you've compared the x10 with phones like the htc desire, the desire is so much smoother because there is no fps cap

The important things for me are removed fps cap and overclocking.
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a2ha said:
The only thing everyone wants is 16m colors and 30+ fps
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Can't wait to see the difference in colour With 30+ fps and 16m colours our X10 will be the true contender it should have been last year!

And what about higher speaker volume and incall volume hack
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And what about higher speaker volume and incall volume hack
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I hear you buddy!

I don't think the call volume is necessarily because of the kernel. Its not a problem for a lot of people, it seems to be a regional problem. There are volume hacks available already but I don't know for certain they work for in call volume.
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Regional or not its problem for many people so why not...and as I know all sound hacks works only on hacked devices...correct me if Im wrong...
...another thing is NO exposure correction (+- EV) for 2.2+ camera and until now nobody answered me if we will have it on new ROMs as we already have on 2.1 stock camera...maybe Arc cam port will help...do somebody know why noone port Arc camera apk to X10? Just a question because Arc firmware is here in XDA for a long time...
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Z just release bootimage for higher volume call..check it in bootloader hack thread...

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The only thing everyone wants is 16m colors and 30+ fps. Noone wants new stupid boot animation.
-Justas
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Yup! +1

Great news I ll check it and wait for some stable ROM THX
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i'm very very sure there are a few things ppl NEED in a custom kernel:
1. FPS cap removal
2. 16mil colours
3. UNDERVOLT to save battery
4. tethering

Plus, it open doors to Cyanogen and MIUI teams to develop a version of their roms specifically optimized to our x10...
Also the possibility to port Sense Roms for those who like it, as jerpelea has tried unsuccessfully in the past...
And the possibility to develop optimized kernels, which will improve roms stability and speed...
Just look at G1 development section and you will see that there are some kernels that runs faster and better than anothers...
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Well, fps cap doesn't really bother me. Considering the human eye can't see past 24fps and I don't really play any games to have seen the fps drop down to it being noticeable (except when the phone lags of course).

Human eye can percieve Much more than 24fps. 24 is a basis for smooth effects. 32 is generally the smooth media standard. Its a theory like gravity. Z"tests" have shown human eyes seeing past 60-100. Due to ram and higher fps would smoothen and speed up our phones. Much less lag. Better response time.
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^just what i wanted to post
is it even possible to change to kernel so we have 16m colours? can our screen do that?

chaurjyh said:
i'm very very sure there are a few things ppl NEED in a custom kernel:
1. FPS cap removal
2. 16mil colours
3. UNDERVOLT to save battery
4. tethering
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This and support for ext2 file system.

Findee said:
Well, fps cap doesn't really bother me. Considering the human eye can't see past 24fps and I don't really play any games to have seen the fps drop down to it being noticeable (except when the phone lags of course).
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Try using Z's custom kernel for 2.1 at least once (or just compare the smoothness of scrooling menus and screens on iPhone and Xperia X10)... the removal of the 32fps cap do a hell of a difference. First time i´ve tryed i ->

Nexus S VS SGS for CM7/MIUI

If anyone has experience with both devices on MIUI and/or CM7 could you share the difference between them? Im weighing whether Nexus S is a worthy upgrade so any input would be appreciated
Btw im not considering SGS2 because of no voodoo sound
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Good thread, I was actually wondering the same thing (not after upgrading).
I know that for Vodafone AU the Galaxy is maybe a better device. The Nexus S here does not have the Amoled screen and also does not have the external SD (which I don't use myself).
I had a quick go at the stock 2.3.4 on a Nexus S and it is definately laggy compared to my CM7 with launcherpro. I cannot say if it is the combination as I would like to see CM7 with LP on the nexus S.
I find Miui laggy on the Galaxy when it comes to the menus in the settings. I am not sure if it is better on the Nexus S as they have access to full sources AFAIK.
K.

If external SD is important then its pretty easy which one you should get.
With Nexus S you will get latest updates from Google (which again might not be necessary if you are staying with CM7).
SGS just got merged in mainline for CM7 so now we get nightlies everyday. From my personal experience, there is 0! ZERO! lag with CM7 and only a few quirky bugs.
Also wouldn't the SGS be much cheaper than the Nexus S? Especially for the AMOLED screen version of the Nexus?
Therefore I suggest SGS imo.

If you use CM7 ... SGS is probably the best choice.

I agree with the consensus....if you are planning on using CM7 or MIUI then that nullifies the advantages the Nexus S has as a "flagship" (early updates from google, etc).
In terms of sheer hardware then, the AMOLED and the external SD make the Galaxy a clear winner over the Nexus S.

Nexus S camera sucks. I moved to Nexus S but gladly back to Galaxy S. No 720p recording, no SAMOLED, no gorilla glass, no SD slot, no radio, poor speakers, no TV out - Nexus S is actually a downgrade if you ask me.
I love Galaxy S. I just wish it had a body of Omnia 7 and a dual LED flash.
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rschenck said:
I agree with the consensus....if you are planning on using CM7 or MIUI then that nullifies the advantages the Nexus S has as a "flagship" (early updates from google, etc).
In terms of sheer hardware then, the AMOLED and the external SD make the Galaxy a clear winner over the Nexus S.
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10 Chars

No GorillaGlass in Nexus S is very strong "NO" for buying the device.
Maybe a few bonuses in Nexus, but really? You wanna have micro (and not only) scratches after month of using the phone? I know what happened with my Xperia after three months of daily using... :/

All the replies are very interesting.
Not many people seems to say but despite not using samsung roms recently i think having them as options are a bonus as well.
I totally agree with the omnia 7 build quality. If there was one thing that i didnt fancy about my SGS it would be the extreme lightness and build quality. I mean i prefer light to heavy but SGS feels a tad too light
For noobs like me download mode is life saver lol
EDIT does anyone know the reason to lag in MIUI settings?
Btw there are few combination of kernel rom and radio which almost removes the lag
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jay_993 said:
All the replies are very interesting.
Not many people seems to say but despite not using samsung roms recently i think having them as options are a bonus as well.
I totally agree with the omnia 7 build quality. If there was one thing that i didnt fancy about my SGS it would be the extreme lightness and build quality. I mean i prefer light to heavy but SGS feels a tad too light
For noobs like me download mode is life saver lol
EDIT does anyone know the reason to lag in MIUI settings?
Btw there are few combination of kernel rom and radio which almost removes the lag
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I am going to speculate without even knowing why but my theory is that Miui uses non standard menu options. Also on a Miui Rom the actual values of the different options are on the main screen (not sure if that makes sens).
If you use an application like GPS test for example, when you go to the menu, you actually can see what the values are set to before you even click on the different options. It is nice to see this but Miui problem in my opinion is that it lags in these settings menus and maybe that's the reason .
Your title did ask about (CM7/Miui) so nearly all the extras don't work anyway (video calling, FM radio...etc). I am sure they will work at some stage as I saw codeworkx started doing some changes for the radio.
https://github.com/teamhacksung/and...mmit/f2d5a4d164a9dec59ce486e77c451c81439526f1
https://github.com/teamhacksung/and...mmit/bd097d8b7f12634192edc1e953ed057a25fcbc86
I did not know the handset did not have the Gorilla glass either so in my opinion apart the actual flash everything else is a downgrade.
K.

Upgrade from galaxy ace to x10?

Hello ,
I have a galaxy ace. Due to its low dev support i am considering of moving to x10. Would it be a good change? And can you let me know about the problems with x10 whici i should keep in mind when upgrading??
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Dual-touch fails, but SE Brazil said we'll get 4 points multitouch with Gingerbread update just like on the Arc etc...

If you can find a cheap x10 say for about £100 or less then go for it. It will soon be upgraded to gingerbread and is a superior phone to the ace by far.
With respect to it's negative points, low in call volume, no true multi touch, 65k colors, very laggy at times, below average RAM when compared to other phones in it's class. With any luck some of these negatives will at least be improved if not fully addressed with the upcoming update.
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zodiac100 said:
If you can find a cheap x10 say for about £100 or less then go for it. It will soon be upgraded to gingerbread and is a superior phone to the ace by far.
With respect to it's negative points, low in call volume, no true multi touch, 65k colors, very laggy at times, below average RAM when compared to other phones in it's class. With any luck some of these negatives will at least be improved if not fully addressed with the upcoming update.
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I don't have any problems with low in call volume. It's to loud for me.

PlayGunsta said:
I don't have any problems with low in call volume. It's to loud for me.
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Well mine is ****ing crap. I can barely hear anything when outside or in a crowded environment. It's a complaint many x10 users have expressed and by now it should be clear to all that it's a real problem even if you are one of the lucky ones who don't have this problem.

The buggy dual touch is my one real complaint since I like to play games.. New custom kernels have made the in call volume better.
Another thing is there isn't much of a dev community at all, so don't expect to do much modding compared to other android phones.
Only get it if it's really cheap imo... Though with the update coming, who knows it might go from an ok phone to a good one?

I never had low incall volume My carrier is rogers and this is my 3rd x10 i think it depends where you guys located at..
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PlayGunsta said:
I don't have any problems with low in call volume. It's to loud for me.
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well turn the volume down then

scoobysnacks said:
The buggy dual touch is my one real complaint since I like to play games.. New custom kernels have made the in call volume better.
Another thing is there isn't much of a dev community at all, so don't expect to do much modding compared to other android phones.
Only get it if it's really cheap imo... Though with the update coming, who knows it might go from an ok phone to a good one?
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Uhm, x10 has much development compared to some other (similair/bootloader unlocked) devices

Is there working 2.3 rom for x10? What about custom roms??
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hassaan123 said:
Is there working 2.3 rom for x10? What about custom roms??
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We'll soon have fully working Gingerbread ROMS. Stock, CM7 or MIUI. Everything that is Gingerbread will be working!

PlayGunsta said:
Uhm, x10 has much development compared to some other (similair/bootloader unlocked) devices
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not at all...
go look at other forums on here,
Even much older android phones.
The development here is nothing compared to almost all other android phones.
I'm not saying that is a huge issue, especially considering most end users don't care about this. It is definitely the truth though. Even ask devs on here their opinion on this. Our community is not nearly as active as most other androids

For how much are you guys waiting? So far multi touch not working at all?
I bought galaxy ace for around 270 dollars. Should exchange with a used x10?
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hassaan123 said:
For how much are you guys waiting? So far multi touch not working at all?
I bought galaxy ace for around 270 dollars. Should exchange with a used x10?
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It works great for pinch zooming, but will be better with GB update. But it isn't officially confirmed on their blog.

Don't know where, but SE said the X10 will just get 2.3.3 and not 16 million colors or 4 finger mt.
A quote is on the front side of se-nse.com I guess
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Flo95 said:
Don't know where, but SE said the X10 will just get 2.3.3 and not 16 million colors or 4 finger mt.
A quote is on the front side of se-nse.com I guess
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I wouldn't trust to much on that because he doesn't know everything about the software!

Hows the battery life? And can it run hd games?
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hassaan123 said:
Hows the battery life? And can it run hd games?
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the battery life is decent, typical for a smartphone lasts about a day.
You can run hd games, but only on custom roms as far as i know.
With the dual touch bug, many of them are painful to try and play too.
I'm using wolfbreak's rom, and there have only been 1 or 2 gameloft games I couldn't find versions of to work

scoobysnacks said:
the battery life is decent, typical for a smartphone lasts about a day.
You can run hd games, but only on custom roms as far as i know.
With the dual touch bug, many of them are painful to try and play too.
I'm using wolfbreak's rom, and there have only been 1 or 2 gameloft games I couldn't find versions of to work
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You can run plenty of hd. Games and there are about 6 or 7 gloat working games
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rtblittlebrown said:
You can run plenty of hd. Games and there are about 6 or 7 gloat working games
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Many only run on 2.2 and up though was what I meant.

Quad-core, 1GB ram + jellybean & widget menu lags everytime

Is this real life? Can't Samsung allocate some ram for it and cache it so I doesn't lag on start up everytime?

Isn't JB still unofficial?

Yes jellybean is still unofficial, but I still get this On ics

I just find it weird that I can play nova 3 flawlessly yet lag in the widgets menu. Samsung need to fix this.

Wait for official Jellybean.
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Aye. The widgets menu always lags. It's pretty annoying that a quad-core phone with 1GB of RAM can't handle such a simple task.

I think samsung forgot to include "Project Butter" for jelly bean s3

Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?

sohebq said:
I think samsung forgot to include "Project Butter" for jelly bean s3
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Don't think smoothness is their highest priority right now, but to work out all of the bugs. They'll work on smoothing it out after it has been released. That's at least how they've always done it, not that their original firmwares haven't always been smooth, but they are almost always a lot better when they mature. The original firmwares for the SGS2 were really slow, but Samsung managed to improve the performance by a lot in later firmwares and the same goes for the SGS3.
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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Please buy a huawei and don't let the door hit you on the way out!

Please buy a huawei and don't let the door hit you on the way out!
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.

mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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Oh my god...Seriously?
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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If you are dissapointed then you don't use your phone as it is ment to... sad to say!
For me SG3 is WAY better than SG2, it runs well, it's smooth as hell, impresive battery, great gaming and screen... OH! But it lags when entring Widgets menu, a menu I hardly touch on the first day I configure my phone or maybe if I install some new app!
But hey, it's worth throwing it to the bin because of it, who wants a laggy widget menú?
Omfg I'm hardly impressed some times in here...
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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No need on personal attacks anyway, he just comented what we all think about your comment...

Lol how is the gs2 better than gs3 haha
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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This is why sometimes I hate xda -no offince-
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I agree wtf is the widget draw lagging for ' you'd think they'd alacate a touch of ram for some kind of stay in memory script like apex launcher does for launcher its simple really but Samsung devs suck [email protected] at common sense' hopefully they'll pull there finger out on official jb and nullify the (error) before a custom rom Dev writes a script to fix the issue and maybe they'll fix the grey cloud issue on lock screen with there much hyped ripple effect using black wallpapers ' this phone should not lagg, jerk,stutter or redraw period, p.s I luv my nearly perfect s3 rant over
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Toss3 said:
Don't think smoothness is their highest priority right now, but to work out all of the bugs. They'll work on smoothing it out after it has been released. That's at least how they've always done it, not that their original firmwares haven't always been smooth, but they are almost always a lot better when they mature. The original firmwares for the SGS2 were really slow, but Samsung managed to improve the performance by a lot in later firmwares and the same goes for the SGS3.
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I can compromise on smoothness because I know custom kernals and custom roms will handle that job pretty fine. All I want now is the bugs to be fixed, esp fc bugs.

Ausboy 2011 said:
Lol how is the gs2 better than gs3 haha
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Zero lag. Brighter screen. More available ram. Better audio in video recorder app.

mwatson said:
Zero lag. Brighter screen. More available ram. Better audio in video recorder app.
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S3 has a better quality screen, mine has zero lag and as of right now this is how my ram looks.
Audio is fixed in the JB leaks.
You just don't know how to set yours up right is all.
"You come at the king, you best not miss." - Omar Little.

MuertoKo said:
If you are dissapointed then you don't use your phone as it is ment to... sad to say!
For me SG3 is WAY better than SG2, it runs well, it's smooth as hell, impresive battery, great gaming and screen... OH! But it lags when entring Widgets menu, a menu I hardly touch on the first day I configure my phone or maybe if I install some new app!
But hey, it's worth throwing it to the bin because of it, who wants a laggy widget menú?
Omfg I'm hardly impressed some times in here...
No need on personal attacks anyway, he just comented what we all think about your comment...
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I don't think the way you do about your comment. I do agree with him about what he said that the s2 runs better because I actually compared them both and the s2 runs faster and smoother. Also it is useless when you say "it runs well, its smooth as hell..." when you are trying to justify a comparison.. The s3 does run well, and it is smooth (well not really) but comparing it to the s2 we get the s2 as a winner. Try looking at the ram usage for the s3 and the s2, the s3 is almost always locked at 470+ and maximum is 780, the s2 with recently cleared memory has 200 mbs of ram used, and can reach up to 800.
So don't attack him just because you are too self righteous about your opinion. He has a point.

Android isn't really optimised for muli-core, only one can be used at any time. The SII runs better as it's lighter with less bloatware, don't buy a phone purely for the fact it has great specs because until Android can fully utilise all 4 cores you're no better off than someone who has 2.
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Worst JB any company will ever release.

I am using note from last 1 year. Used GB for six months then upgraded to ICS.
I am always FAN of Stock TW look.
But this time: SAMSUNG crossed limit by releasing worst, ugliest, laggy, slowest JB firmware.
When I tried JB leak in FEB. I thought that this is not ready and samsung will work on it and will clean it by little more makeup.
But bloody sammy released it as it was. I mean no cleanliness, no smoothness, no quickness.
I can feel the slow response of apps opening and closing which I never felt in ICS.
Even battery drains like HELL.
I am reverting back to ICS. I like quickness of ICS. I am not a heavy user.
I disable few apps or bloatware I don't use and ICS works awesome.
Your views.

Maybe you do not know how to make clean flash...
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JB is good for me..
Battery , smoothness, stability( with latest kernels)..
<<<The CRACKS on my NOTE shows how often it KISSES the FLOOR>>>

its very smooth in my note.even app transitions are awesome but there is lag in gallery.

Agree, battery drains like hell, many lag, hot issue... i will never buy a sammy device again
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JB is running better than ICS on my note. Its butter smooth and faster. Job done well samsung!
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Sv: Worst JB any company will ever release.
shahkam said:
Dude stop bashing their work go make your own software if you find theirs that ****ty... Needless to say you have the solution you said ics runs better for you.
Well use ics stop bashing and quit making useless threads like these.
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Stop bashing about it? He paid for it!

Agree i am saying the same. Ics release was way better than the jb release.
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Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- it's slow, at least Germany stock (maybe because I did only factory reset, still Ultimate ROM is incredibly smooth)
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
- battery life is worse, on ICS using WiFi didn't make any significant changes to usage time, on JB WiFi drains battery like crazy
- its general appearance is bad (ugly icons, switches etc but it matters the least)
- it's just quick mashup port of Note II's/GSIII's ROM, but that's the biggest advantage of it - airview, multiwindow, ink effect and other stuff work without sweat
I'll be using Ultimate for some time, but I'll probably return to ICS, few features I like doesn't compensate for stuff I miss or hate

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Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
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Bloody idiots. They miss ******* simple things.

the multitask and battery life for me makes all the difference, jb is a keeper they made touchwizz my favorite. The additional mods, with clean install and no recovery of app+data do the trick for me.
maybe you guys have rogue apps or something. Check you logcats
cm is really really awesome to, my fav vanilla flavour, but those touchwizz features wootwoot. I get same free mem after bloatware remove on touch as on cm.

Agree with this thread worst software update ever. Intead it should be considered as a downgrade in software quality very much unsatisfied this time
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shahkam said:
Dude stop bashing their work go make your own software if you find theirs that ****ty... Needless to say you have the solution you said ics runs better for you.
Well use ics stop bashing and quit making useless threads like these.
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It's true, I am the software.

It's not sooooooo bad after all, battery really drains fast but the ROM is quite normal i think.
I really like TouchWiz because we have some features like Multi-Window, S Note, Fully integration with the S Pen, etc.
Always wanted to use pure Android(CM and others) but i would miss the way to organize the apps on the Drawer as i want and they aren't non-Wiping ROMs, once that all these features are included on a ROM i would be free from Samsung ****ty updates.
Better an resonable Jelly Bean than no Jelly Bean.

Gambolputty said:
Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- it's slow, at least Germany stock (maybe because I did only factory reset, still Ultimate ROM is incredibly smooth)
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
- battery life is worse, on ICS using WiFi didn't make any significant changes to usage time, on JB WiFi drains battery like crazy
- its general appearance is bad (ugly icons, switches etc but it matters the least)
- it's just quick mashup port of Note II's/GSIII's ROM, but that's the biggest advantage of it - airview, multiwindow, ink effect and other stuff work without sweat
I'll be using Ultimate for some time, but I'll probably return to ICS, few features I like doesn't compensate for stuff I miss or hate
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Totally agree with you. Now I really think that its not only me who finds this ROM ugly.

Have you all moaners done full backup and wipe?
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bhatia.mani said:
Totally agree with you. Now I really think that its not only me who finds this ROM ugly.
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I actually like the appearance of the new icons/weather themes/wallpaper, that's why I was so looking forward to this release. But I agree with you guys, it sucked. When I bought my Note with 4.0.4, the impression it I got from it was the same as the Note II with TW UX gave me: smooooooth! I updated my Note officially through Kies, so I'm sure nothing went wrong in the 'flashing' process. I've also done a factory reset. But everything else lags except for home screen transitions, it's kind of a disappointment. S Note, Camera, Contacts take at least 4-5 seconds to load. Music player has stutters in music playback. There's a delay when using the S Pen.
But now I've moved onto a custom ROM, and it's keeping me really happy.

It's 50:50
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jakethesnakeuk said:
Have you all moanersthe done full backup and wipe?
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First of all I don't care about back up. So forget about it.
Secondly, I was using ICS with philz kernel. I did all 3 wipes and then wiped preload which says now install newROM.
Then I installed original ICS using PC odin. Then I updated JB using KIES. Then I reset internal memory by using factory reset.
If you think that this process is not good enough: then please come to india, new delhi and do it for me you moaner.
Hope every one who wants to say that full wipe do the trick. Please read this post.
My brother bought iphone 5 2 weeks back. I was the one who was insisting that he should not by iphone rather by android because of few OS limitation of bluetooth and no card slot.. But luckily he bought IPHONE. And now I feeel guilty that why I was insisting on android if this the quality.
I bought sony xperia for my father with A7 cortex processor which is lower than what note has. But guys believe me. Smoothness of that phone is way beyond our note. We cannot even expect that from crappy sammy.
I will never buy sammy again. Apple or sony will be the preference

bhatia.mani said:
My brother bought iphone 5 2 weeks back. I was the one who was insisting that he should not by iphone rather by android because of few OS limitation of bluetooth and no card slot.. But luckily he bought IPHONE. And now I feeel guilty that why I was insisting on android if this the quality.
I bought sony xperia for my father with A7 cortex processor which is lower than what note has. But guys believe me. Smoothness of that phone is way beyond our note. We cannot even expect that from crappy sammy.
I will never buy sammy again. Apple or sony will be the preference
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Agree with you bro. same story with me but the difference is that my friend bought an iphone.. Although it is not big as note but the plus point is that it never lags for me the next change is gonna be a iphone 5s
Ps: when you paid $600 or Inr 32000 for a phone you atleast expect that the phone should not hang.. I am very much disappointed with jellybean
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