Hello ,
I have a galaxy ace. Due to its low dev support i am considering of moving to x10. Would it be a good change? And can you let me know about the problems with x10 whici i should keep in mind when upgrading??
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Dual-touch fails, but SE Brazil said we'll get 4 points multitouch with Gingerbread update just like on the Arc etc...
If you can find a cheap x10 say for about £100 or less then go for it. It will soon be upgraded to gingerbread and is a superior phone to the ace by far.
With respect to it's negative points, low in call volume, no true multi touch, 65k colors, very laggy at times, below average RAM when compared to other phones in it's class. With any luck some of these negatives will at least be improved if not fully addressed with the upcoming update.
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zodiac100 said:
If you can find a cheap x10 say for about £100 or less then go for it. It will soon be upgraded to gingerbread and is a superior phone to the ace by far.
With respect to it's negative points, low in call volume, no true multi touch, 65k colors, very laggy at times, below average RAM when compared to other phones in it's class. With any luck some of these negatives will at least be improved if not fully addressed with the upcoming update.
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I don't have any problems with low in call volume. It's to loud for me.
PlayGunsta said:
I don't have any problems with low in call volume. It's to loud for me.
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Well mine is ****ing crap. I can barely hear anything when outside or in a crowded environment. It's a complaint many x10 users have expressed and by now it should be clear to all that it's a real problem even if you are one of the lucky ones who don't have this problem.
The buggy dual touch is my one real complaint since I like to play games.. New custom kernels have made the in call volume better.
Another thing is there isn't much of a dev community at all, so don't expect to do much modding compared to other android phones.
Only get it if it's really cheap imo... Though with the update coming, who knows it might go from an ok phone to a good one?
I never had low incall volume My carrier is rogers and this is my 3rd x10 i think it depends where you guys located at..
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PlayGunsta said:
I don't have any problems with low in call volume. It's to loud for me.
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well turn the volume down then
scoobysnacks said:
The buggy dual touch is my one real complaint since I like to play games.. New custom kernels have made the in call volume better.
Another thing is there isn't much of a dev community at all, so don't expect to do much modding compared to other android phones.
Only get it if it's really cheap imo... Though with the update coming, who knows it might go from an ok phone to a good one?
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Uhm, x10 has much development compared to some other (similair/bootloader unlocked) devices
Is there working 2.3 rom for x10? What about custom roms??
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hassaan123 said:
Is there working 2.3 rom for x10? What about custom roms??
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We'll soon have fully working Gingerbread ROMS. Stock, CM7 or MIUI. Everything that is Gingerbread will be working!
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Uhm, x10 has much development compared to some other (similair/bootloader unlocked) devices
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not at all...
go look at other forums on here,
Even much older android phones.
The development here is nothing compared to almost all other android phones.
I'm not saying that is a huge issue, especially considering most end users don't care about this. It is definitely the truth though. Even ask devs on here their opinion on this. Our community is not nearly as active as most other androids
For how much are you guys waiting? So far multi touch not working at all?
I bought galaxy ace for around 270 dollars. Should exchange with a used x10?
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hassaan123 said:
For how much are you guys waiting? So far multi touch not working at all?
I bought galaxy ace for around 270 dollars. Should exchange with a used x10?
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It works great for pinch zooming, but will be better with GB update. But it isn't officially confirmed on their blog.
Don't know where, but SE said the X10 will just get 2.3.3 and not 16 million colors or 4 finger mt.
A quote is on the front side of se-nse.com I guess
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Flo95 said:
Don't know where, but SE said the X10 will just get 2.3.3 and not 16 million colors or 4 finger mt.
A quote is on the front side of se-nse.com I guess
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I wouldn't trust to much on that because he doesn't know everything about the software!
Hows the battery life? And can it run hd games?
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Hows the battery life? And can it run hd games?
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the battery life is decent, typical for a smartphone lasts about a day.
You can run hd games, but only on custom roms as far as i know.
With the dual touch bug, many of them are painful to try and play too.
I'm using wolfbreak's rom, and there have only been 1 or 2 gameloft games I couldn't find versions of to work
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the battery life is decent, typical for a smartphone lasts about a day.
You can run hd games, but only on custom roms as far as i know.
With the dual touch bug, many of them are painful to try and play too.
I'm using wolfbreak's rom, and there have only been 1 or 2 gameloft games I couldn't find versions of to work
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You can run plenty of hd. Games and there are about 6 or 7 gloat working games
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rtblittlebrown said:
You can run plenty of hd. Games and there are about 6 or 7 gloat working games
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Many only run on 2.2 and up though was what I meant.
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Seems its gone quiet on the rom/updates for most cookers , this prob because they are all at work on a new custom kernel for their roms like j, WB etc , what goodies will be activated by them and what release kernel will you be using ? as i see on freexperia hub both the .29 and 32 have been worked on? , will you all be dropping froyo and jumping straight to Gingerbread ? i like GB but for some reason i like froyo better WB v5 with custom .32 rom would be top notch
Mark
The only thing everyone wants is 16m colors and 30+ fps. Noone wants new stupid boot animation.
-Justas
yep. I dont mind much for the fps cap but its probably cause I dont know what im missing. The most important to me is 16m colours.
soldiers33 said:
yep. I dont mind much for the fps cap but its probably cause I dont know what im missing. The most important to me is 16m colours.
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believe me, you do If you've compared the x10 with phones like the htc desire, the desire is so much smoother because there is no fps cap
The important things for me are removed fps cap and overclocking.
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The only thing everyone wants is 16m colors and 30+ fps
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Can't wait to see the difference in colour With 30+ fps and 16m colours our X10 will be the true contender it should have been last year!
And what about higher speaker volume and incall volume hack
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And what about higher speaker volume and incall volume hack
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I hear you buddy!
I don't think the call volume is necessarily because of the kernel. Its not a problem for a lot of people, it seems to be a regional problem. There are volume hacks available already but I don't know for certain they work for in call volume.
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Regional or not its problem for many people so why not...and as I know all sound hacks works only on hacked devices...correct me if Im wrong...
...another thing is NO exposure correction (+- EV) for 2.2+ camera and until now nobody answered me if we will have it on new ROMs as we already have on 2.1 stock camera...maybe Arc cam port will help...do somebody know why noone port Arc camera apk to X10? Just a question because Arc firmware is here in XDA for a long time...
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Z just release bootimage for higher volume call..check it in bootloader hack thread...
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The only thing everyone wants is 16m colors and 30+ fps. Noone wants new stupid boot animation.
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Yup! +1
Great news I ll check it and wait for some stable ROM THX
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i'm very very sure there are a few things ppl NEED in a custom kernel:
1. FPS cap removal
2. 16mil colours
3. UNDERVOLT to save battery
4. tethering
Plus, it open doors to Cyanogen and MIUI teams to develop a version of their roms specifically optimized to our x10...
Also the possibility to port Sense Roms for those who like it, as jerpelea has tried unsuccessfully in the past...
And the possibility to develop optimized kernels, which will improve roms stability and speed...
Just look at G1 development section and you will see that there are some kernels that runs faster and better than anothers...
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Well, fps cap doesn't really bother me. Considering the human eye can't see past 24fps and I don't really play any games to have seen the fps drop down to it being noticeable (except when the phone lags of course).
Human eye can percieve Much more than 24fps. 24 is a basis for smooth effects. 32 is generally the smooth media standard. Its a theory like gravity. Z"tests" have shown human eyes seeing past 60-100. Due to ram and higher fps would smoothen and speed up our phones. Much less lag. Better response time.
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^just what i wanted to post
is it even possible to change to kernel so we have 16m colours? can our screen do that?
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i'm very very sure there are a few things ppl NEED in a custom kernel:
1. FPS cap removal
2. 16mil colours
3. UNDERVOLT to save battery
4. tethering
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This and support for ext2 file system.
Findee said:
Well, fps cap doesn't really bother me. Considering the human eye can't see past 24fps and I don't really play any games to have seen the fps drop down to it being noticeable (except when the phone lags of course).
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Try using Z's custom kernel for 2.1 at least once (or just compare the smoothness of scrooling menus and screens on iPhone and Xperia X10)... the removal of the 32fps cap do a hell of a difference. First time i´ve tryed i ->
When is android going to be smooth as wp7 and ios? Why isn't it as smooth now? Why? They said group then gingerbread and now what ever comes after it?
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Nice troll.. Really..
mosd said:
When is android going to be smooth as wp7 and ios? Why isn't it as smooth now? Why? They said group then gingerbread and now what ever comes after it?
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My sgs running android 2.2.1 and a tricked out kernel is smooth as butter, easily as smooth as my 4th Gen iPod touch.
If your screen looks jerky, then likely it is a classic case of JoOSoS....Jerk on Other Side of Screen.
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Troll? This ain't world of war craft? So you mean your galaxy s is smooth as wp7 scrolling apps? I have Miui its very smooth but still not like the ios? When is hardware going to be activated? Will never buy Iphone because it locked im just wondering no need to get angry? Its. Not your mother im talking about its just a phone?
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Based upon some pf your past posts below .
I would guess that the problem is .
One your phone has a defect
or Two somehow you have defected it
or Three you have a defect .
jje
past posts include .>>>>>>>>>>>
Beta 1.3 is awsome no problems very smooth
I'm afraid that my phone will so hot that it takes fire
Can I stop background from moving when scrolling apps?
Is it just my phone that sharpness gets very bad on? On market and on game its so bad sharpness? Even stock is better
Also the apps and pictures on Internet is very pixladed
i had first juwes gingerbread rom, then i flashed jpy and miui? is that wrong ? where can i find Ezbase rom
cant see ext card ? not in phone or in computer? i have the latest kernel installed ? whats wrong ? tried to restard.
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My sgs running android 2.2.1 and a tricked out kernel is smooth as butter, easily as smooth as my 4th Gen iPod touch.
If your screen looks jerky, then likely it is a classic case of JoOSoS....Jerk on Other Side of Screen.
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not really JoOSoS... but Android inside... IDIOT outside
Haha no its not? You think I'm the only one experienced a hot phone? You should check cm7 thread? Anyway I have friends with desire hd, Htc desire, nexus phones and i still feel Iphone is smoother? Is. Hardware acceleration activated? Look at xoom it lags when scrolling thru screens Ipad not why is that? I'm just wondering? And if sharpness is good on galaxy s why put sharpness fix on?
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Haha no its not? You think I'm the only one experienced a hot phone? You should check cm7 thread? Anyway I have friends with desire hd, Htc desire, nexus phones and i still feel Iphone is smoother? Is. Hardware acceleration activated? Look at xoom it lags when scrolling thru screens Ipad not why is that? I'm just wondering? And if sharpness is good on galaxy s why put sharpness fix on?
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Easy fix. Sell your current phone, buy a wp7 one instead, switch forums then live happily ever after
You talking about Miui and CM7 and complaining about bugs. When it says all over the threads for both those roms that they have known issues. You got nothing better to do?
Non of thes OS'es is smooth as WINDOWS PHONE 7, not Android, Not IOS.
I have used HTC phones, Samsung, Motorola, difrent android phones, the smoothnes is nothing compering to WP7.
I like Android but to be honest, my next phone will definitiv be a WINDOWS PHONE 7, and the UI is, uuuuuuuuuuuuhu, so damn SEXY
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Non of thes OS'es is smooth as WINDOWS PHONE 7, not Android, Not IOS.
I have used HTC phones, Samsung, Motorola, difrent android phones, the smoothnes is nothing compering to WP7.
I like Android but to be honest, my next phone will definitiv be a WINDOWS PHONE 7, and the UI is, uuuuuuuuuuuuhu, so damn SEXY
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Go back to mordor.
FRLinux said:
Go back to mordor.
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I prefere to stay in the REAL WORLD
What the **** is up with you guys and getting angry? Are we talking about your country or mother or something? We're taking about a system? And google don't give a **** about you? They just want your money so shop defending them like it was your family everyone knows ios and wp7 is smoother im just asking why is that? If you can't answer without getting angry don't answer?
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Android is coded with java which isn't the best thing to make an OS with as its bloated. Also companies like microsoft and apple can properly code the hardware with the OS. Its easy for apple as they dont make many phones. It is also easy for Microsoft as they ask for minimum requirements in terms of processor. Its harder for android as there are so many phones with different speed and types of processors.
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What the **** is up with you guys and getting angry? Are we talking about your country or mother or something? We're taking about a system? And google don't give a **** about you? They just want your money so shop defending them like it was your family everyone knows ios and wp7 is smoother im just asking why is that? If you can't answer without getting angry don't answer?
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And MS and Apple dont?
But in general i do agree that Android lags abit more,dont feel as smooth as WP7/iOS4.But to be honest,thats not why you buy an smartphone is it?
I'd agree and ask the question too.
I do have alot of apps and generally the phone isn't too bad with smoothness but if, e.g. newsrob is synchronising, things can get very slow and non-responsive and I'm using jvk.
Live wallpapers with multiple widgets can make scrolling jerky and sometimes with lag of seconds.
Here are all my apps...
http://www.appbrain.com/user/markdj/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
Sync/ background tasks are...
Tweekdeck - 2hrs
Gmail/contacts
Earthquake alerter
Tango
G talk
Beautiful widgets/weather
newsrob - 4hrs
Meteoblue widget
Aix weather widget
Bbc news
Sky news
hullomail
Tv show favs
Running with tv off animation/flip-flop screens/lock screen.
Maybe I'm answering my own question !!
These widgets are things that ios doesn't have, as well as live wallpapers. Does ios have apps that run in the background?
Please no flaming - we all want a better android, just trying to understand how android works.
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What the **** is up with you guys and getting angry? Are we talking about your country or mother or something? We're taking about a system? And google don't give a **** about you? They just want your money so shop defending them like it was your family everyone knows ios and wp7 is smoother im just asking why is that? If you can't answer without getting angry don't answer?
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Trust me i am not even close to getting upset. I just pointed out this thread as a waste of time especially the man who started it.
what ur saying m8 is totally true , android is no match to wp7 nor to ios in smoothness!!
having said that, its totally justifiable, android experience is the closest it can be with pc. u can do almost anything on ur device, like in windows for pc (on a tiny 1 gh processor with limited ram) ---------> the price is the smoothness.
will i go for another os,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, never, cause i want my phone to do everything
i know what are you talking about. this is all that i miss in my galaxy s - the smoothness. i have also jvk, with sweet honey 3.0 over jvk and it just not as smooth as iOS or some rom i saw on htc desire. don't think i don't like my phone. it's great and i love working with it. but what i miss is the smoothness.
CM7 and MIUI are not official now and have known bugs and not for my daily use.
so.. maybe we need to wait more.
Anywho....to answer the dudes question.... Both iOS and Metro UI are hardware accelerated. There you go.
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In my urge to find something "different" I'm considering purchasing an X10, but all the reviews say it's just terrible...
Honestly, how bad can it be? Is this just tainted blood from when it was first released on 1.6? Am I wrong in thinking that it's a very usable device, either with the latest updates, or on a rom from the dev section?
I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
What do you mean the screen is bad? Response or the image on the screen?
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I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
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The screen isnt that bad at all. And theres always gonna be better devices for the same price no matter what device you have. There are better devices, but how much are you willing to spend?
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Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
ClubDownforce said:
Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
Camera, signal, and battery life are just fine. It's not the fastest phone. It's still pretty laggy even when optimized. Things should really improve with the 2.3 upgrade but even with that, there are faster, more powerful, and featured phones out there.
For the average smartphone user, the major downside to this phone is the low in call volume. I've had to purchase a bluetooth speakerphone for the car (which is great actually). Taking a call in a loud environment is awful.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
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Id say go for it. You dont sound to demanding, and you dont sound like you need the best of the best. The X10 is pretty pleasing in my experience.
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I've had my x10 since march. Ive had other droids before and an iphone as well but what i really needed was the great camera that the x10 does have. I've always read people having problems with low in call volume but I can say that i've never had that problem myself. I never used the phone with 1.6, when i got it the 2.1 update was already released, so i never experienced the dreadfulness (some say) that was the 1.6 rom.
The x10 is a very beautiful and stylish phone (specially the white one) with an outstanding camera, HD video and android. I can agree, that the rom (The SE one anyway) is not the fastest or more responsive thing on earth, but I don't find it too horrible either. now that it has the dual touch, the large display is a lot better to handle, even if not perfect.
I say go for it. try to find the one dubbed x10 HD (one that comes with 2.1 out of the box), because it is my understanding that it has a better display module that looks even better than the first x10s did.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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What were the colors originally
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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One thing to consider is how long you plan to use this phone. The X10 Is about to receive android 2.3. This however will be the last official android upgrade that it will receive. I'm close to the end of a 2 year contract so this is not such an issue for me. Granted if you are planning to use a custom roms it won't be a big issue for you either.
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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get your carrier to repair it. I don't have this issue.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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What were the colors originally
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Did you use the X10 on 1.6? There is a very big noticeable difference between 1.6 and 2.1. While they didnt give us 16m colors they did adjust the colors. Some of the same wallpapers and widgets i used then and now proove a massive difference. Not exactly sure how or what they did...but something was adjusted lol.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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Ive noticed in bad areas it has its problems...sometimes even drops my call. But i most certainly remember my old nexus one had a very similiar issue where i live. When i had the galaxy s i didnt experience such issue...but that was only like a week...and my samsung focus has been by far the greatest. Not a single issue no matter where ive been.
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Is this real life? Can't Samsung allocate some ram for it and cache it so I doesn't lag on start up everytime?
Isn't JB still unofficial?
Yes jellybean is still unofficial, but I still get this On ics
I just find it weird that I can play nova 3 flawlessly yet lag in the widgets menu. Samsung need to fix this.
Wait for official Jellybean.
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Aye. The widgets menu always lags. It's pretty annoying that a quad-core phone with 1GB of RAM can't handle such a simple task.
I think samsung forgot to include "Project Butter" for jelly bean s3
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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I think samsung forgot to include "Project Butter" for jelly bean s3
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Don't think smoothness is their highest priority right now, but to work out all of the bugs. They'll work on smoothing it out after it has been released. That's at least how they've always done it, not that their original firmwares haven't always been smooth, but they are almost always a lot better when they mature. The original firmwares for the SGS2 were really slow, but Samsung managed to improve the performance by a lot in later firmwares and the same goes for the SGS3.
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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Please buy a huawei and don't let the door hit you on the way out!
Please buy a huawei and don't let the door hit you on the way out!
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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Oh my god...Seriously?
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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If you are dissapointed then you don't use your phone as it is ment to... sad to say!
For me SG3 is WAY better than SG2, it runs well, it's smooth as hell, impresive battery, great gaming and screen... OH! But it lags when entring Widgets menu, a menu I hardly touch on the first day I configure my phone or maybe if I install some new app!
But hey, it's worth throwing it to the bin because of it, who wants a laggy widget menú?
Omfg I'm hardly impressed some times in here...
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You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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No need on personal attacks anyway, he just comented what we all think about your comment...
Lol how is the gs2 better than gs3 haha
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mwatson said:
Seriously... What's wrong with this phone? It's really is a huge disappointment isn't it. My old s2 way out performs this thing. I bet even the huawei accend performs better. Prob worth replacing this with it! Doesn't it have 2gb of ram too?
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mwatson said:
You must be a school child judging by your reply. It's like you've taken my comment as a personal remark about yourself bless you. Remember.. This is just a phone. No tribal allegiances required.
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This is why sometimes I hate xda -no offince-
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I agree wtf is the widget draw lagging for ' you'd think they'd alacate a touch of ram for some kind of stay in memory script like apex launcher does for launcher its simple really but Samsung devs suck [email protected] at common sense' hopefully they'll pull there finger out on official jb and nullify the (error) before a custom rom Dev writes a script to fix the issue and maybe they'll fix the grey cloud issue on lock screen with there much hyped ripple effect using black wallpapers ' this phone should not lagg, jerk,stutter or redraw period, p.s I luv my nearly perfect s3 rant over
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Toss3 said:
Don't think smoothness is their highest priority right now, but to work out all of the bugs. They'll work on smoothing it out after it has been released. That's at least how they've always done it, not that their original firmwares haven't always been smooth, but they are almost always a lot better when they mature. The original firmwares for the SGS2 were really slow, but Samsung managed to improve the performance by a lot in later firmwares and the same goes for the SGS3.
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I can compromise on smoothness because I know custom kernals and custom roms will handle that job pretty fine. All I want now is the bugs to be fixed, esp fc bugs.
Ausboy 2011 said:
Lol how is the gs2 better than gs3 haha
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Zero lag. Brighter screen. More available ram. Better audio in video recorder app.
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Zero lag. Brighter screen. More available ram. Better audio in video recorder app.
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S3 has a better quality screen, mine has zero lag and as of right now this is how my ram looks.
Audio is fixed in the JB leaks.
You just don't know how to set yours up right is all.
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MuertoKo said:
If you are dissapointed then you don't use your phone as it is ment to... sad to say!
For me SG3 is WAY better than SG2, it runs well, it's smooth as hell, impresive battery, great gaming and screen... OH! But it lags when entring Widgets menu, a menu I hardly touch on the first day I configure my phone or maybe if I install some new app!
But hey, it's worth throwing it to the bin because of it, who wants a laggy widget menú?
Omfg I'm hardly impressed some times in here...
No need on personal attacks anyway, he just comented what we all think about your comment...
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I don't think the way you do about your comment. I do agree with him about what he said that the s2 runs better because I actually compared them both and the s2 runs faster and smoother. Also it is useless when you say "it runs well, its smooth as hell..." when you are trying to justify a comparison.. The s3 does run well, and it is smooth (well not really) but comparing it to the s2 we get the s2 as a winner. Try looking at the ram usage for the s3 and the s2, the s3 is almost always locked at 470+ and maximum is 780, the s2 with recently cleared memory has 200 mbs of ram used, and can reach up to 800.
So don't attack him just because you are too self righteous about your opinion. He has a point.
Android isn't really optimised for muli-core, only one can be used at any time. The SII runs better as it's lighter with less bloatware, don't buy a phone purely for the fact it has great specs because until Android can fully utilise all 4 cores you're no better off than someone who has 2.
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I am on my way to get myself a Galaxy Note-1 because they are giving it away for free. I don't play games or do any heavy duty stuff and I don't want to spend too much either. I am coming from an EVO so this should be an upgrade, right? Come on, push me towards this already. :fingers-crossed:
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I am on my way to get myself a Galaxy Note-1 because they are giving it away for free. I don't play games or do any heavy duty stuff and I don't want to spend too much either. I am coming from an EVO so this should be an upgrade, right? Come on, push me towards this already. :fingers-crossed:
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If you are coming from an EVO, then hell yes it's a good choice! But be wary, ICS on Note sucks. Either stick with Official Gingerbread, or jump straight to Official Leaked Jelly Bean.
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If you are coming from an EVO, then hell yes it's a good choice! But be wary, ICS on Note sucks. Either stick with Official Gingerbread, or jump straight to Official Leaked Jelly Bean.
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OK. Will do. But why does ICS suck on the Note even though the hardware is decent?
in an age when everything comes for a price why do you think its free ?
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OK. Will do. But why does ICS suck on the Note even though the hardware is decent?
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I don't agree that ICS suck. I am using it for 4 months now without any issues.
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Its a good phone with great development still !
Stock ICS is okay-ish, But whack in a custom kernel (essential) and it will make a massive difference, Besides, there are some awesome JellyBean leaks out now with tons of features so theres no point even thinking about ICS.... its history.
However, If you had that little extra $$$ why not consider getting the Note 2 ? there are some deals in the UK where the phone is free, but the montly payment is around £35 GBP
I assume thats what you meant by free right ? cause if someone is actually giving you this for free with NO contract at all....... TAKE IT !!!!
Note is always a good phone to buy even after 6 months from now. For now it has enough power that is needed by a tab or phone....
I am using it for the past 9 months and is still on stock ics 4.0.4 and its working way too perfect for me no lags or hangs. Still a best choice at a now reasonable price. Go for it.
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in an age when everything comes for a price why do you think its free ?
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I don't know. Maybe because everyone wants the latest and greatest?
do a good screen test for black clipping, dead and lazy pixels before you leave the store
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OK. Will do. But why does ICS suck on the Note even though the hardware is decent?
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They stick their half-assed Gingerbread UI to ICS, made performance worse, and totally makes a total mess that makes Note completely horriffic to use.
JB solved all that. Almost thrown my phone out of the window.
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They stick their half-assed Gingerbread UI to ICS, made performance worse, and totally makes a total mess that makes Note completely horriffic to use.
JB solved all that. Almost thrown my phone out of the window.
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I have some old people that are rocking ics just fine. Its all relative, some better experience on ics, some gb, some jb.
Personally I was dissapointed with ics cause it would better utilize the hardware then gb. Considering the hardware integration in OS functionality, it wasnt to great. Android wide problem.
Problem I have JB is the ram bloitedness. The phone slows doen when apps are loaded, whilst theoretically this shouldnt be the case for android OS.
I notice the degradation of its specs in performance. So if your going to buy something that should last I'd recommend buying the newest stuff.
However if you do light browsing, no multitasking, then this is a perfect device, now also cheaper.
If you do multitasking, even with supercharging and bulletprooving apps you will find loads of reloads when switching apps. Kinda sickens me, why load it in memory if it cant keep the state properly (apple can do this)... The newest leaks look promising, but they will lag.. Then again if youre a light user it should be fine.
I noticed I almost never use pc when I got this phone.
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baz77 said:
I have some old people that are rocking ics just fine. Its all relative, some better experience on ics, some gb, some jb.
Personally I was dissapointed with ics cause it would better utilize the hardware then gb. Considering the hardware integration in OS functionality, it wasnt to great. Android wide problem.
Problem I have JB is the ram bloitedness. The phone slows doen when apps are loaded, whilst theoretically this shouldnt be the case for android OS.
I notice the degradation of its specs in performance. So if your going to buy something that should last I'd recommend buying the newest stuff.
However if you do light browsing, no multitasking, then this is a perfect device, now also cheaper.
If you do multitasking, even with supercharging and bulletprooving apps you will find loads of reloads when switching apps. Kinda sickens me, why load it in memory if it cant keep the state properly (apple can do this)... The newest leaks look promising, but they will lag.. Then again if youre a light user it should be fine.
I noticed I almost never use pc when I got this phone.
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You're talking old as in aged old or like old pals? In case of former, there'd be no problem !
Yep, TW-ICS really sucked.
Have not noticed any of the ram problems you have mentioned although I haven't been on JB-TW for a very long time.Try CM10.1.The new builds are very good !
Ics dont suck at all. The earlier releases of ics had some issues but those that are released late like in the regions of india pakistan and middle east. Its working way too perfect, with no ram leaks and plenty unused memory. They fixed the battery and other issues. Yes the notification menu is almost same as was in the GB. But overall a better experience than GB.
Note and s2 are among the first phones to get the ics.
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You're talking old as in aged old or like old pals? In case of former, there'd be no problem !
Yep, TW-ICS really sucked.
Have not noticed any of the ram problems you have mentioned although I haven't been on JB-TW for a very long time.Try CM10.1.The new builds are very good !
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nah really old palls. In my community there is a strong connection between young and old. We dont put away our elderly and isolate them like in some countries. Or so I have been told.
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nah really old palls. In my community there is a strong connection between young and old. We dont put away our elderly and isolate them like in some countries. Or so I have been told.
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Go for the note. You have my recommendations and if it comes with gingerbread use it for sometimes like a week or so and then update it to ice cream sandwich and you will see the difference urself. U missed the time when people were dying waiting for the ics update. Including me..
Somethings are better to be experienced and getting a note will be a good one.
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Go for it unless you can afford note 2.
Stick on 10.1 JB 4.2.1. It rocks with no crashes at all. Stick on inverted gapps for good measure with additional apps.
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Livebyte said:
They stick their half-assed Gingerbread UI to ICS, made performance worse, and totally makes a total mess that makes Note completely horriffic to use.
JB solved all that. Almost thrown my phone out of the window.
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ICS for Note was what Vista was for Windows: bloated and slow.
JB is like Windows 7: lean, mean awesome OS!
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JB is still a leaked version so no official comments on JB from my side .
Custom JB roms are not for me. Samsung hid the source and dev cant make it fully functional and fixed.... Still some had good results after flashing.
So am still waiting.
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I cannot understand why some people say that ICS on the Note sucks. In fact it runs smoothly, it's stable, no problems at all. The only disadvantage of ICS is the brickbug. JB on the other hand is still in beta stage. If you go for JB you will have to deal with force closed app, sudden sleep of death, bootloops and the like. JB on the Note is not ready to be used as everydays rom. It's not yet reliable.
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Running ICS stock with speedmod kernal and the only complaint I have day to day about the phone is the black crush in videos. Otherwise its great. Battery life, power, phone use, gps, etc, etc.