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X10 Android 2.1 Screenshots

Leaked: http://blog.se-nse.net/xperia-x10-2-1-update-leaked/

Those screenshots are really old.

yea what so special about 2.1 beside "animated" screen capable.... and nicer colour.

wrongfeifong said:
yea what so special about 2.1 beside "animated" screen capable.... and nicer colour.
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And more ram.....
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mezo9090 said:
And more ram.....
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Right... So an OS can increase RAM now....??

k1sr said:
Right... So an OS can increase RAM now....??
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1.6 was limited in the amount ram it could use 2.1 let's you use all of it.

I sound like a total a-hole when saying this but I couldn't possibly care less about 2.1, the big winner for me will be 2.2. Hear me out:
The amount of colours displayed isn't a major issue for me, even with 16-bit the X10 performs well enough. The increase in ram will be nice but again, the updated stock image performs very well even with a limited amount.
The reason I'm looking forward towards 2.2 is mostly the JIT improvements in Dalvik. Even if it's marketspeak to say that there's a 400% increase in speed there has to be atleast some truth to it. Even a 100% change (which is very doable) would be awesome, so it finally feels like I have a 1ghz Snapdragon.
The current speed is like running with lead shoes, it will get you there but that's about it. 2.2 replaces those shoes with running shoes.
Ok, retarded analogies, but you get the point.

ddewbofh said:
I sound like a total a-hole when saying this but I couldn't possibly care less about 2.1, the big winner for me will be 2.2. Hear me out:
The amount of colours displayed isn't a major issue for me, even with 16-bit the X10 performs well enough. The increase in ram will be nice but again, the updated stock image performs very well even with a limited amount.
The reason I'm looking forward towards 2.2 is mostly the JIT improvements in Dalvik. Even if it's marketspeak to say that there's a 400% increase in speed there has to be atleast some truth to it. Even a 100% change (which is very doable) would be awesome, so it finally feels like I have a 1ghz Snapdragon.
The current speed is like running with lead shoes, it will get you there but that's about it. 2.2 replaces those shoes with running shoes.
Ok, retarded analogies, but you get the point.
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Don´t forget about flash man!

OK, where are the instructions on how to update? Can we do the same update for the froyo?

bavelb said:
OK, where are the instructions on how to update? Can we do the same update for the froyo?
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How to update instructions:
1. Turn on your phone
2. Use it normally
3. Wait until September for SE to release the 2.1 update.
You can do exactly the same for Froyo! No need to thank me!

Where are cooked ROMs:-(
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@iead1 - Man you're on a roll... that's funny!!..

Ive had the pleasure of using both 2.1 and 2.2. Used 2.1 on Milestone/Droid and on a Nexus One. And of course, 2.2 on the same Nexus. I was amazed by how a simple 2.2 update can change a phone's usability.
Just to give you an idea:
At 2.1, the browser speed of the Nexus One was practically the same as my iPhone 3GS.
At 2.2, the Nexus One finished loading the page just as the iPhone was at it's halfway point.

in two days.goin to get x10.hope i like it.. now using x1....

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@iead1 - Man you're on a roll... that's funny!!..
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Why is he a troll?
that's the pure truth.... for now at least.

tuxStyle said:
Why is he a troll?
that's the pure truth.... for now at least.
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No, not troll. He said "he was on a roll" which means, full of funny commentary in a good way. It's an English expression.
Karooluss said:
Where are cooked ROMs:-(
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Reading must be very difficult for you eh?
That's about the only excuse that would be forgivable for posting that question.

Xperia X10... How BAD can it be?!

In my urge to find something "different" I'm considering purchasing an X10, but all the reviews say it's just terrible...
Honestly, how bad can it be? Is this just tainted blood from when it was first released on 1.6? Am I wrong in thinking that it's a very usable device, either with the latest updates, or on a rom from the dev section?

I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else

What do you mean the screen is bad? Response or the image on the screen?

pngface said:
I'd say wait another month when it gets Gingerbread and look for reviews then.
Right now, I wouldn't recommend buying it, no matter what custom rom you put on it. There are better phones you can get with the same price.
Ofcourse, I love the design, camera, UI, etc but the screen is so unbelievably bad right now, it goes over anything else
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The screen isnt that bad at all. And theres always gonna be better devices for the same price no matter what device you have. There are better devices, but how much are you willing to spend?
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Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...

ClubDownforce said:
Seems they're easily had in the 150 dollar range used...
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Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
Yes...but how much are you willing to spend on a phone? And what's the important features you want?
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I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.

clixt said:
I totally agree.
Most of the people that reviewed the x10 used it with Android 1.6.
IMHO, it's as bad as you think it is. But as Mr Patchy said what's the most important thing or feature do you want on a phone?
In my case, I just want a stylish, camera phone that has ANY Android OS in it be 1.6, 2.1 or 2.3, so with or without the GB update, I am quite satisfied.
Of course, any new features are welcome.
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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.

Camera, signal, and battery life are just fine. It's not the fastest phone. It's still pretty laggy even when optimized. Things should really improve with the 2.3 upgrade but even with that, there are faster, more powerful, and featured phones out there.
For the average smartphone user, the major downside to this phone is the low in call volume. I've had to purchase a bluetooth speakerphone for the car (which is great actually). Taking a call in a loud environment is awful.

ClubDownforce said:
I need a quality cam, reliable signal, decent battery life, and a usable messaging system, with an accurate keyboard.
That's about it.
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Id say go for it. You dont sound to demanding, and you dont sound like you need the best of the best. The X10 is pretty pleasing in my experience.
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I've had my x10 since march. Ive had other droids before and an iphone as well but what i really needed was the great camera that the x10 does have. I've always read people having problems with low in call volume but I can say that i've never had that problem myself. I never used the phone with 1.6, when i got it the 2.1 update was already released, so i never experienced the dreadfulness (some say) that was the 1.6 rom.
The x10 is a very beautiful and stylish phone (specially the white one) with an outstanding camera, HD video and android. I can agree, that the rom (The SE one anyway) is not the fastest or more responsive thing on earth, but I don't find it too horrible either. now that it has the dual touch, the large display is a lot better to handle, even if not perfect.
I say go for it. try to find the one dubbed x10 HD (one that comes with 2.1 out of the box), because it is my understanding that it has a better display module that looks even better than the first x10s did.

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Well yes....but not 1.6. If you can remember 1.6 the screen was terrible!!! But since 2.1 SE adjusted colors and made it a very nice display imho. But, yes I to find it important to have a quality camera on my phone....big big reason why I ditched my nexus one for my very first X10. Then everything else just fell in place. I loved the phone the day i got it and never looked back....and that was when it was on 1.6 lol.
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Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.

clixt said:
Is it lol? I didn't know since I got the x10 HD.
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It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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Mr Patchy Patch said:
It was bad on 1.6. I have to admit. Most of my widgets looked like ****. And certain wallpapers i used were not tolerable. Since 2.1 dropped i havent had a single problem. Everything is nice and crisp. Consider yourself lucky lol
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What were the colors originally
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If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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One thing to consider is how long you plan to use this phone. The X10 Is about to receive android 2.3. This however will be the last official android upgrade that it will receive. I'm close to the end of a 2 year contract so this is not such an issue for me. Granted if you are planning to use a custom roms it won't be a big issue for you either.
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Willey1986 said:
If you want to make calls with your phone DON'T buy a X10! The in-call volume still is the worst I ever experienced in my life. All those updates, hacks or custom kernels didn't change anything. When you aren't in a church or library understanding someone is a challenge.
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get your carrier to repair it. I don't have this issue.
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It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.

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What were the colors originally
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Did you use the X10 on 1.6? There is a very big noticeable difference between 1.6 and 2.1. While they didnt give us 16m colors they did adjust the colors. Some of the same wallpapers and widgets i used then and now proove a massive difference. Not exactly sure how or what they did...but something was adjusted lol.
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OmegaRED^ said:
It's stability ranges from no issue's at all to overheating, "usb & chipset" death.
Support from SE is very much lacking.
The x10 does not do well in low signal area's and will overheat and chew thru the battery on 3G.
The camera is nice but unfortunately lacks a flash.
The screen is great even with only 16Bit color.
It's upto you but i would suggest another handset.
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Ive noticed in bad areas it has its problems...sometimes even drops my call. But i most certainly remember my old nexus one had a very similiar issue where i live. When i had the galaxy s i didnt experience such issue...but that was only like a week...and my samsung focus has been by far the greatest. Not a single issue no matter where ive been.
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Upgrade from galaxy ace to x10?

Hello ,
I have a galaxy ace. Due to its low dev support i am considering of moving to x10. Would it be a good change? And can you let me know about the problems with x10 whici i should keep in mind when upgrading??
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Dual-touch fails, but SE Brazil said we'll get 4 points multitouch with Gingerbread update just like on the Arc etc...

If you can find a cheap x10 say for about £100 or less then go for it. It will soon be upgraded to gingerbread and is a superior phone to the ace by far.
With respect to it's negative points, low in call volume, no true multi touch, 65k colors, very laggy at times, below average RAM when compared to other phones in it's class. With any luck some of these negatives will at least be improved if not fully addressed with the upcoming update.
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zodiac100 said:
If you can find a cheap x10 say for about £100 or less then go for it. It will soon be upgraded to gingerbread and is a superior phone to the ace by far.
With respect to it's negative points, low in call volume, no true multi touch, 65k colors, very laggy at times, below average RAM when compared to other phones in it's class. With any luck some of these negatives will at least be improved if not fully addressed with the upcoming update.
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I don't have any problems with low in call volume. It's to loud for me.

PlayGunsta said:
I don't have any problems with low in call volume. It's to loud for me.
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Well mine is ****ing crap. I can barely hear anything when outside or in a crowded environment. It's a complaint many x10 users have expressed and by now it should be clear to all that it's a real problem even if you are one of the lucky ones who don't have this problem.

The buggy dual touch is my one real complaint since I like to play games.. New custom kernels have made the in call volume better.
Another thing is there isn't much of a dev community at all, so don't expect to do much modding compared to other android phones.
Only get it if it's really cheap imo... Though with the update coming, who knows it might go from an ok phone to a good one?

I never had low incall volume My carrier is rogers and this is my 3rd x10 i think it depends where you guys located at..
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PlayGunsta said:
I don't have any problems with low in call volume. It's to loud for me.
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well turn the volume down then

scoobysnacks said:
The buggy dual touch is my one real complaint since I like to play games.. New custom kernels have made the in call volume better.
Another thing is there isn't much of a dev community at all, so don't expect to do much modding compared to other android phones.
Only get it if it's really cheap imo... Though with the update coming, who knows it might go from an ok phone to a good one?
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Uhm, x10 has much development compared to some other (similair/bootloader unlocked) devices

Is there working 2.3 rom for x10? What about custom roms??
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hassaan123 said:
Is there working 2.3 rom for x10? What about custom roms??
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We'll soon have fully working Gingerbread ROMS. Stock, CM7 or MIUI. Everything that is Gingerbread will be working!

PlayGunsta said:
Uhm, x10 has much development compared to some other (similair/bootloader unlocked) devices
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not at all...
go look at other forums on here,
Even much older android phones.
The development here is nothing compared to almost all other android phones.
I'm not saying that is a huge issue, especially considering most end users don't care about this. It is definitely the truth though. Even ask devs on here their opinion on this. Our community is not nearly as active as most other androids

For how much are you guys waiting? So far multi touch not working at all?
I bought galaxy ace for around 270 dollars. Should exchange with a used x10?
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hassaan123 said:
For how much are you guys waiting? So far multi touch not working at all?
I bought galaxy ace for around 270 dollars. Should exchange with a used x10?
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It works great for pinch zooming, but will be better with GB update. But it isn't officially confirmed on their blog.

Don't know where, but SE said the X10 will just get 2.3.3 and not 16 million colors or 4 finger mt.
A quote is on the front side of se-nse.com I guess
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Flo95 said:
Don't know where, but SE said the X10 will just get 2.3.3 and not 16 million colors or 4 finger mt.
A quote is on the front side of se-nse.com I guess
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I wouldn't trust to much on that because he doesn't know everything about the software!

Hows the battery life? And can it run hd games?
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Hows the battery life? And can it run hd games?
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the battery life is decent, typical for a smartphone lasts about a day.
You can run hd games, but only on custom roms as far as i know.
With the dual touch bug, many of them are painful to try and play too.
I'm using wolfbreak's rom, and there have only been 1 or 2 gameloft games I couldn't find versions of to work

scoobysnacks said:
the battery life is decent, typical for a smartphone lasts about a day.
You can run hd games, but only on custom roms as far as i know.
With the dual touch bug, many of them are painful to try and play too.
I'm using wolfbreak's rom, and there have only been 1 or 2 gameloft games I couldn't find versions of to work
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You can run plenty of hd. Games and there are about 6 or 7 gloat working games
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rtblittlebrown said:
You can run plenty of hd. Games and there are about 6 or 7 gloat working games
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Many only run on 2.2 and up though was what I meant.

New x10 gingerbread video

Just a video I stumbled across on the upcoming update. It's in Hebrew but at least we can see the performance improvements the update will bring at least.
check it out for yourselves.
http://www7.zippyshare.com/v/82662159/file.html

For the lazy ones that wanna watch it without leaving the page

its like someone took android and flipped it horizontally...

Meraklis56 said:
its like someone took android and flipped it horizontally...
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its because the locale is set to hebrew, because they write and read from right to left instead of from left to right.

ehh, im not as excited as before 2.1 came out still...

does the owner of this phone in the video not realise they should drop the system dump on xda !

love the video
it llooks real can't wait , it runs soo damn smooth , it was worth the wait and i think its probly not the final final finalized update they probly still tweaking bbut man i think who ever got there hands on this leaked it out ,am so amazed by how smooth and the responds so good , by them doing a review mean its gona be here probly next week cause its the last week of july

Translation from Hebrew!
He says that the update will start to roll out THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!
Another intresting thing he says is the better battery life, and better call quality
The rest review is just explanation of the plain all things we already know of like the Arc launcher, and the 2.3 update which brings apps2sd and thethering Etc.

elady58 said:
He says that the update will start to roll out THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!
Another intresting thing he says is the better battery life, and better call quality
The rest review is just explanation of the plain all things we already know of like the Arc launcher, and the 2.3 update which brings apps2sd and thethering Etc.
Another intresting thing he mentioned is the
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the the THE THE wht?
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elady58 said:
He says that the update will start to roll out THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!
Another intresting thing he says is the better battery life, and better call quality
The rest review is just explanation of the plain all things we already know of like the Arc launcher, and the 2.3 update which brings apps2sd and thethering Etc.
Another intresting thing he mentioned is the
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What???? Oh man, you can't end a post like that!

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What???? Oh man, you can't end a post like that!
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was a mistake
But I'm sure the rest is enough, isn't it?

this week... this week... i will be in journey without access to web and computer! damnit!

i won't update right after it comes out... because if the superoneclick will be outdated then we're doomed for about another week

i need a mirror to see the video properly
by video some np to final conclusions
no 16 m colors
no multi touch
no fps cap
same crapy 2.1 i mean 2.3.3
our 2.2 custom roms specially MIUI are much faster then this one
i am just waiting for a full working MIUI 2.3.3 ROM

elady58 said:
He says that the update will start to roll out THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!
Another intresting thing he says is the better battery life, and better call quality
The rest review is just explanation of the plain all things we already know of like the Arc launcher, and the 2.3 update which brings apps2sd and thethering Etc.
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welll!!! this weekend is in 4 days we will see ,that would be amazin if the battery life is much better that was the number on problem for the x1o

kunalgahlot said:
i need a mirror to see the video properly
by video some np to final conclusions
no 16 m colors
no multi touch
no fps cap
same crapy 2.1 i mean 2.3.3
our 2.2 custom roms specially MIUI are much faster then this one
i am just waiting for a full working MIUI 2.3.3 ROM
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?? it seems fast actually...
did you watch the vid?

kunalgahlot said:
i need a mirror to see the video properly
by video some np to final conclusions
no 16 m colors
no multi touch
no fps cap
same crapy 2.1 i mean 2.3.3
our 2.2 custom roms specially MIUI are much faster then this one
i am just waiting for a full working MIUI 2.3.3 ROM
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No fps cap good thing the other 2 you cant realy observe from the video
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i really hope for better call quality because that, in my opinion, is the #1 reason wrong with x10. it SUCKS as a phone.

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No fps cap good thing the other 2 you cant realy observe from the video
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Why no FPS is good thing...anyways i guess we can remove that on our own now
no 16 M colors..you can see the diff with 65k and 16 m colors on a youtube video
no multitouch..had their been multitouch the guy would have SHOWN IT
ROM seems to be bit laggy specially while switching screens and turning on from a black screen,but yeah faster than 2.1 official

well... from what I have seen in this video must admit that this will be the first usable ''out-of-the-box'' firmware ever made by SE, so in conclusion, let the Devs make their job and we can enjoy our x10's as it was ment to be enjoyed ;-)

This is what really really annoys me!!!

Why is it when there are any articles on the Xperia Play the comment sections are always full of "know it all's" that slag the device off without even trying it?
Take a look at Eurogamers new article for example then go down to the comments section - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-06-sony-ericsson-no-need-for-xperia-play-2
grrrrrrr

just a tip,1.6 GHZ is abit to hot.I've being using 1.4 and 1.5 and they work just as great
Also,ignore the comments,IRL if you show your hacked/Modded PLay their brains would go out the window
Atleast thats whats happened to me once i showed how fast it was,oh and gamepaddd

Cat_On_Droid said:
just a tip,1.6 GHZ is abit to hot.I've being using 1.4 and 1.5 and they work just as great
Also,ignore the comments,IRL if you show your hacked/Modded PLay their brains would go out the window
Atleast thats whats happened to me once i showed how fast it was,oh and gamepaddd
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I've actually put mine down to 1.4ghz only to try and balance the battery a bit as 1.6ghz was going through the battery rather quickly!

FK1983 said:
I've actually put mine down to 1.4ghz only to try and balance the battery a bit as 1.6ghz was going through the battery rather quickly!
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Lowering the voltages will have a better effect on battery than lowering the clock speed

can't blame them for wanting more power.but..
whats the good of dual core if you just use is to call and text people

They are just jelly because they don't have one.

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They are just jelly because they don't have one.
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+1 Totally agree

AndroHero said:
Lowering the voltages will have a better effect on battery than lowering the clock speed
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What do you have yours set to? when I tried it I froze the screen so had to reboot!

Yeah, the nobs probably don't have one and are jealous because they signed a 4 year contract and still paid 400 for an iphone that is obsolete this month or next.

FK1983 said:
What do you have yours set to? when I tried it I froze the screen so had to reboot!
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Same here xD
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Problem its people look at specs and benchmarks and never do their own research, very annoying that people including supposedly respectable reviewers are too bothered about the silly specs!
IMO this phone is better than any I've tried, sensation, galaxy s2, desire hd and s none hold up to the gaming and general experience of the XP, just need more advocates like us!
Sony have done really well with the software and all the xda people make things loads better!
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Zombie iPhone fanboys, don't even bother reading their comments.

wired84 said:
people look at specs and benchmarks and never do their own research
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Ditto.
People using 'single core' as an argument against it automatically revoke any chance that their opinion is reputable. People who know what they're talking about know it has some blazing fast high-quality memory and acceleration that's great enough to keep it's performance right up there with the dual cores.
Samurai II on Xperia PLAY runs just as smoothly as it does on the Atrix.

Don't mind them.. I came from iPhone also, but nothing compares our phone for now.. I know deep inside of them they want this phone too, they just dont admit that they made a wrong decision by choosing their current phone over this..

I’m happy with it and that is all that matters to me.