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Anxious future owner here; Come on guys, how's the beast performing??

Is it faster than the Nexus S?
Are apps opening in lightening speed?
Is there any lag at all?
Is the camera fairly decent?
WLan works well?
Can't wait to get the darn thing next week..
P.S. Has anyone managed to remove the sim-lock?

Nope go read the threads screen sucks and slow on things. And I almost wanted on over my nexus s
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I can still choose whether I get the Nexus S or the Atrix; a friend in the US buys it tomorrow for me. I was done & dusted on getting the Nexus S (coming from an un-rooted Nexus One) until I took a final look on those specs of the Atrix again. That phone just looks too good on paper to not be good!
Guys, more updates please! Help a guy make up his mind..

Vangelis13 said:
Is it faster than the Nexus S?
Are apps opening in lightening speed?
Is there any lag at all?
Is the camera fairly decent?
WLan works well?
Can't wait to get the darn thing next week..
P.S. Has anyone managed to remove the sim-lock?
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Apps opening? - Fastest phone I've own yet...
Lag? - yes. Going from an app like Angry birds to home screen, there's an initial lag. It's annoying. Must be Blurrrrr.
Camera? - Disappointed...iPhone 4 is definitely better.
Let's just say I'm ready to install a custom Rom without all the bloatware and lameBlur. Blur kills the phones IMO.

Not many phones can beat the iphone 4 camera appart from Nokia, but is the camera on the Atrix better than the HTC Desire or nexus s.
Cheers.

Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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xs2k said:
Apps opening? - Fastest phone I've own yet...
Lag? - yes. Going from an app like Angry birds to home screen, there's an initial lag. It's annoying. Must be Blurrrrr.
Camera? - Disappointed...iPhone 4 is definitely better.
Let's just say I'm ready to install a custom Rom without all the bloatware and lameBlur. Blur kills the phones IMO.
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What about running Launcher Pro on it, that'd make it a bit more sensible I think.
Camera; Using Camera 360 can probably crisp the images a bit more? it's a phone at the end of the day..

nucentury08 said:
Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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Would luv to go Samsung but for me a LED notification light is the number 1 piece of hardware then the camers then the screen & samsung will not put a cheap led light on there phones, so only HTC & Motorola for me & HTC have done nothing new this year so far.

nucentury08 said:
Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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Go back to the Nexus S boards then rather than trolling here. You clearly don't have the phone, any anything you state is a matter of opinion, and clearly jealousy since you're on our boards and not yours.

My atrix is fast. I had someinitial lag in the app drawer while using Launcher Pro but it is gone now.
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Came from Nexus One. Good upgrade.
Confirmed that with proper account provisioning, unlimited 4G data for $30, and the "phone" apn, upload is either capped by AT&T or HSUPA is disabled on the hardware by AT&T. Tethering plan may increase upload speed but I got no confirmation in this yet.
Otherwise it's an excellent upgrade from the N1.
-James

nucentury08 said:
Nope go read the threads screen sucks and slow on things. And I almost wanted on over my nexus s
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nucentury08 said:
Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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You like to troll don't you?
The phone works great, haven't had any lag at all so far. Only been playing on it for 4 hours though! Launcher Pro works great, I have the 3D settings on and the animations don't lag whatsoever. No complaints with the screen. Only thing that sucks is my Worms game isn't working Something about being an unsupported device.

Man I see you trolling on a ton of threads here and as a Nexus S owner myself you really give us a bad name.
Sound like a jealous teenager hating the fact that someone else could have something better than you... drop it already. Go back to school, learn to read and write correctly.
nucentury08 said:
Go pure Google nexus s soo fast better screen nfc chip and gryoscope for games. 2.4 will set the standard soon witch this device won't see
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My Quadrant score was 2690.

jmacdonald801 said:
Came from Nexus One. Good upgrade.
Confirmed that with proper account provisioning, unlimited 4G data for $30, and the "phone" apn, upload is either capped by AT&T or HSUPA is disabled on the hardware by AT&T. Tethering plan may increase upload speed but I got no confirmation in this yet.
Otherwise it's an excellent upgrade from the N1.
-James
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Thanks for that reply, great to know a fellow N1 owner is happy with the Atrix! The N1 is the best phone I've ever use; I am getting more & more convinced that the Atrix will have me equally mesmerized!!
Just hope that after Tuesday's off - contract sales someone will post a confirmed way to remove the sim lock too..

Vangelis13 said:
Thanks for that reply, great to know a fellow N1 owner is happy with the Atrix! The N1 is the best phone I've ever use; I am getting more & more convinced that the Atrix will have me equally mesmerized!!
Just hope that after Tuesday's off - contract sales someone will post a confirmed way to remove the sim lock too..
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Should note that if you look at the reviews out there, the N1 battery life is crap (compared to the Atrix). Also the Atrix (like most newer Android phones) has a proper multitouch screeen. So you'll notice way better typing input immediately.

I will admit.... it's nice that nucentury is at least starting to use SOME punctuation. Not enough, but it's still an improvement from the first post i've seen from him in his other thread.
Besides.... who would even take the advice of someone who thinks that a gyroscope makes a phone that much better than any other device when it comes to gaming? A gyroscope has the same exact flaw as Microsoft Kinect. It's only logical to be used for a certain genre of games. Anything outside those genres, and it's just a useless addition to the phone.

Everything for me is great thus far. Phone is very snappy using LauncherPro also using Beautiful widgets.
Typing is spot on. Nice screen resolution. I would say the phone is overall faster than the Captivate and Inspire.
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yeah I love this phone very fast with scrolling no lag, switching apps super fast, the screen is excellent, I really like the power but/finger print reader works flawless, battery life is good, I did a bench mark test and had 2691

AllTheWay said:
Everything for me is great thus far. Phone is very snappy using LauncherPro also using Beautiful widgets.
Typing is spot on. Nice screen resolution. I would say the phone is overall faster than the Captivate and Inspire.
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Thanks for the reply! LauncherPro has become essential, it's good to know it enhances the Android experience here too.

This is what really really annoys me!!!

Why is it when there are any articles on the Xperia Play the comment sections are always full of "know it all's" that slag the device off without even trying it?
Take a look at Eurogamers new article for example then go down to the comments section - http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-09-06-sony-ericsson-no-need-for-xperia-play-2
grrrrrrr

just a tip,1.6 GHZ is abit to hot.I've being using 1.4 and 1.5 and they work just as great
Also,ignore the comments,IRL if you show your hacked/Modded PLay their brains would go out the window
Atleast thats whats happened to me once i showed how fast it was,oh and gamepaddd

Cat_On_Droid said:
just a tip,1.6 GHZ is abit to hot.I've being using 1.4 and 1.5 and they work just as great
Also,ignore the comments,IRL if you show your hacked/Modded PLay their brains would go out the window
Atleast thats whats happened to me once i showed how fast it was,oh and gamepaddd
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I've actually put mine down to 1.4ghz only to try and balance the battery a bit as 1.6ghz was going through the battery rather quickly!

FK1983 said:
I've actually put mine down to 1.4ghz only to try and balance the battery a bit as 1.6ghz was going through the battery rather quickly!
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Lowering the voltages will have a better effect on battery than lowering the clock speed

can't blame them for wanting more power.but..
whats the good of dual core if you just use is to call and text people

They are just jelly because they don't have one.

subcu1ture said:
They are just jelly because they don't have one.
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+1 Totally agree

AndroHero said:
Lowering the voltages will have a better effect on battery than lowering the clock speed
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What do you have yours set to? when I tried it I froze the screen so had to reboot!

Yeah, the nobs probably don't have one and are jealous because they signed a 4 year contract and still paid 400 for an iphone that is obsolete this month or next.

FK1983 said:
What do you have yours set to? when I tried it I froze the screen so had to reboot!
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Same here xD
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Problem its people look at specs and benchmarks and never do their own research, very annoying that people including supposedly respectable reviewers are too bothered about the silly specs!
IMO this phone is better than any I've tried, sensation, galaxy s2, desire hd and s none hold up to the gaming and general experience of the XP, just need more advocates like us!
Sony have done really well with the software and all the xda people make things loads better!
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Zombie iPhone fanboys, don't even bother reading their comments.

wired84 said:
people look at specs and benchmarks and never do their own research
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Ditto.
People using 'single core' as an argument against it automatically revoke any chance that their opinion is reputable. People who know what they're talking about know it has some blazing fast high-quality memory and acceleration that's great enough to keep it's performance right up there with the dual cores.
Samurai II on Xperia PLAY runs just as smoothly as it does on the Atrix.

Don't mind them.. I came from iPhone also, but nothing compares our phone for now.. I know deep inside of them they want this phone too, they just dont admit that they made a wrong decision by choosing their current phone over this..

I’m happy with it and that is all that matters to me.

projectbutter makes the s3 amazing

I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!

dodgebizkit said:
I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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The official version is indeed better than the leaks we got earlier, and gives me hope that the later versions are going to be even better, not to mention 4.1.2 and 4.2.

dodgebizkit said:
I am really surprised at how amazing jelly bean really is on the s3, with ics it was fast and smooth already but now it blazes.
it is faster and smoother than my iphone 4s on ios6 and my wp7.5 hd7 of old which now belongs to my brothwe. it equals in smoothness that of my iPad 3 and in many ways is faster add depending on the app it generally opens them faster.
it is s real winner. battery life could be better but I'm more than happy at the moment and it was well worth the wait!
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Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I have both. I think that the SGS3 was already faster on ICS than the gnexus on JB. The gnexus is slower to load apps and lag a lot on places like the widgets menu.

I can only recommend Paranoid Android on the S3, I'm simply amazed by this ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745003

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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That's your opinion. I've tried both, and the S3 is faster, and better imo.

Certainly on AOSP it is without a doubt, ill always choose AOSP first and foremost now there can be no going back to Sammy ROM's only as a secondary ROM, i can live without FM Radio (i always use Tune in Radio PRO anyway much better highly recommended app) and other small things you don't get IN AOSP the good far outweighs the bad.

I have to agree Project Butter is a lot better than in the leaks, but there is optimization to do, like the widgets draw, which still lags until it is fully pulled into memory.
I can't wait to see what the updates have to offer.

And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!

Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.

supernexus build 5 is a winner

russeini said:
And would u mind telling us how u managed with the freaky lag we get when we try to open phone dialer after it being closed 4 a while? Why do they call it a phone when the thng it does the worst is opening the phone app!
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while on ics i used ex dialer, on JB it still loads slowish but it takes 1 sec rather than 4 for me and im fine with that so i stopped using ex dialer for now.

I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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hero000 said:
I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I completely agree i owned various devices and always used Asop or akop. But on this phone, if you use asop or akop you miss the features on the phone. So i tend to stick to stock all the time simply because i need most of the features.

hero000 said:
I prefer AOSP rom too but you will miss a lot of s3 features. That's the reason I stick to stock.
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I always switch between Sammy and AOSP for this reason but now with dual-boot I have the best of both world.
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oliseo said:
Just be thankful you don't have the WiFi issue that it gave me.
Beforehand, no problem connecting to the WiFi.
Now, I have had to disabled "power saving mode" in the menu *#0011#, because whereas previously on ICS, it would connect if the WiFi got dropped (say, it went to sleep, or I disabled it), unless I do this, if it gets dropped, it would not reconnect until I reset the phone.
Very, very annoying.
I've raised the Issue with Samsung.
And it's not just me with the issue.
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No need to go to Samsung, you are on XDA. All the experts are here. I'm not an expert but I would say to just flash another ROM or Modem.

Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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He he he silly dual-core
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Sensamic said:
Errrr... No, it's not great. If you knew more about the phone you would know it's not as great as on the galaxy nexus. It's easy worst.
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I don't agree I think it's on par at the least...
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Wow! Google should have never brought project butter up in the first place. Now we have some weirdos having a weird placebo effect thinking that the GS3 firmware does not incorporate PB when it would be absolutely retarded and more difficult for Samsung to take it out of the source code and add in half butter. That is like the most hilarious thing I have ever heard. No developer would rewrite PB to operate at half.
There is a possibility that touchwiz animations do not look as smooth as AOSP animations to some eyes but I highly HIGHLY doubt it that they would change the genetic code. lol
People need to stop tripping or otherwise Google is not going to even bring up any transition improvements to prevent this crap from happening to their OEMs that use Android skins.

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And your post seems like one from a fanboy who tries to hide the reality.
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I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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scoffyburito said:
I had a feeling your posts were going this way. Project butter does work on the device but its other 'bugs' that hinder its operation and perception
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Will I still get all the goodies like 60 fps and other stuff on nova launcher instead of touchwiz?

Note Gurus. Is the Note still a good phone to get?

I am on my way to get myself a Galaxy Note-1 because they are giving it away for free. I don't play games or do any heavy duty stuff and I don't want to spend too much either. I am coming from an EVO so this should be an upgrade, right? Come on, push me towards this already. :fingers-crossed:

HD2FORNICK said:
I am on my way to get myself a Galaxy Note-1 because they are giving it away for free. I don't play games or do any heavy duty stuff and I don't want to spend too much either. I am coming from an EVO so this should be an upgrade, right? Come on, push me towards this already. :fingers-crossed:
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If you are coming from an EVO, then hell yes it's a good choice! But be wary, ICS on Note sucks. Either stick with Official Gingerbread, or jump straight to Official Leaked Jelly Bean.

Livebyte said:
If you are coming from an EVO, then hell yes it's a good choice! But be wary, ICS on Note sucks. Either stick with Official Gingerbread, or jump straight to Official Leaked Jelly Bean.
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OK. Will do. But why does ICS suck on the Note even though the hardware is decent?

in an age when everything comes for a price why do you think its free ?

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OK. Will do. But why does ICS suck on the Note even though the hardware is decent?
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I don't agree that ICS suck. I am using it for 4 months now without any issues.
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Its a good phone with great development still !
Stock ICS is okay-ish, But whack in a custom kernel (essential) and it will make a massive difference, Besides, there are some awesome JellyBean leaks out now with tons of features so theres no point even thinking about ICS.... its history.
However, If you had that little extra $$$ why not consider getting the Note 2 ? there are some deals in the UK where the phone is free, but the montly payment is around £35 GBP
I assume thats what you meant by free right ? cause if someone is actually giving you this for free with NO contract at all....... TAKE IT !!!!

Note is always a good phone to buy even after 6 months from now. For now it has enough power that is needed by a tab or phone....
I am using it for the past 9 months and is still on stock ics 4.0.4 and its working way too perfect for me no lags or hangs. Still a best choice at a now reasonable price. Go for it.
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rraaka said:
in an age when everything comes for a price why do you think its free ?
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I don't know. Maybe because everyone wants the latest and greatest?

do a good screen test for black clipping, dead and lazy pixels before you leave the store
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OK. Will do. But why does ICS suck on the Note even though the hardware is decent?
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They stick their half-assed Gingerbread UI to ICS, made performance worse, and totally makes a total mess that makes Note completely horriffic to use.
JB solved all that. Almost thrown my phone out of the window.

Livebyte said:
They stick their half-assed Gingerbread UI to ICS, made performance worse, and totally makes a total mess that makes Note completely horriffic to use.
JB solved all that. Almost thrown my phone out of the window.
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I have some old people that are rocking ics just fine. Its all relative, some better experience on ics, some gb, some jb.
Personally I was dissapointed with ics cause it would better utilize the hardware then gb. Considering the hardware integration in OS functionality, it wasnt to great. Android wide problem.
Problem I have JB is the ram bloitedness. The phone slows doen when apps are loaded, whilst theoretically this shouldnt be the case for android OS.
I notice the degradation of its specs in performance. So if your going to buy something that should last I'd recommend buying the newest stuff.
However if you do light browsing, no multitasking, then this is a perfect device, now also cheaper.
If you do multitasking, even with supercharging and bulletprooving apps you will find loads of reloads when switching apps. Kinda sickens me, why load it in memory if it cant keep the state properly (apple can do this)... The newest leaks look promising, but they will lag.. Then again if youre a light user it should be fine.
I noticed I almost never use pc when I got this phone.
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baz77 said:
I have some old people that are rocking ics just fine. Its all relative, some better experience on ics, some gb, some jb.
Personally I was dissapointed with ics cause it would better utilize the hardware then gb. Considering the hardware integration in OS functionality, it wasnt to great. Android wide problem.
Problem I have JB is the ram bloitedness. The phone slows doen when apps are loaded, whilst theoretically this shouldnt be the case for android OS.
I notice the degradation of its specs in performance. So if your going to buy something that should last I'd recommend buying the newest stuff.
However if you do light browsing, no multitasking, then this is a perfect device, now also cheaper.
If you do multitasking, even with supercharging and bulletprooving apps you will find loads of reloads when switching apps. Kinda sickens me, why load it in memory if it cant keep the state properly (apple can do this)... The newest leaks look promising, but they will lag.. Then again if youre a light user it should be fine.
I noticed I almost never use pc when I got this phone.
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You're talking old as in aged old or like old pals? In case of former, there'd be no problem !
Yep, TW-ICS really sucked.
Have not noticed any of the ram problems you have mentioned although I haven't been on JB-TW for a very long time.Try CM10.1.The new builds are very good !

Ics dont suck at all. The earlier releases of ics had some issues but those that are released late like in the regions of india pakistan and middle east. Its working way too perfect, with no ram leaks and plenty unused memory. They fixed the battery and other issues. Yes the notification menu is almost same as was in the GB. But overall a better experience than GB.
Note and s2 are among the first phones to get the ics.
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warfareonly said:
You're talking old as in aged old or like old pals? In case of former, there'd be no problem !
Yep, TW-ICS really sucked.
Have not noticed any of the ram problems you have mentioned although I haven't been on JB-TW for a very long time.Try CM10.1.The new builds are very good !
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nah really old palls. In my community there is a strong connection between young and old. We dont put away our elderly and isolate them like in some countries. Or so I have been told.
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nah really old palls. In my community there is a strong connection between young and old. We dont put away our elderly and isolate them like in some countries. Or so I have been told.
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Go for the note. You have my recommendations and if it comes with gingerbread use it for sometimes like a week or so and then update it to ice cream sandwich and you will see the difference urself. U missed the time when people were dying waiting for the ics update. Including me..
Somethings are better to be experienced and getting a note will be a good one.
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Go for it unless you can afford note 2.
Stick on 10.1 JB 4.2.1. It rocks with no crashes at all. Stick on inverted gapps for good measure with additional apps.
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Livebyte said:
They stick their half-assed Gingerbread UI to ICS, made performance worse, and totally makes a total mess that makes Note completely horriffic to use.
JB solved all that. Almost thrown my phone out of the window.
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ICS for Note was what Vista was for Windows: bloated and slow.
JB is like Windows 7: lean, mean awesome OS!
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JB is still a leaked version so no official comments on JB from my side .
Custom JB roms are not for me. Samsung hid the source and dev cant make it fully functional and fixed.... Still some had good results after flashing.
So am still waiting.
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I cannot understand why some people say that ICS on the Note sucks. In fact it runs smoothly, it's stable, no problems at all. The only disadvantage of ICS is the brickbug. JB on the other hand is still in beta stage. If you go for JB you will have to deal with force closed app, sudden sleep of death, bootloops and the like. JB on the Note is not ready to be used as everydays rom. It's not yet reliable.
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Running ICS stock with speedmod kernal and the only complaint I have day to day about the phone is the black crush in videos. Otherwise its great. Battery life, power, phone use, gps, etc, etc.

Worst JB any company will ever release.

I am using note from last 1 year. Used GB for six months then upgraded to ICS.
I am always FAN of Stock TW look.
But this time: SAMSUNG crossed limit by releasing worst, ugliest, laggy, slowest JB firmware.
When I tried JB leak in FEB. I thought that this is not ready and samsung will work on it and will clean it by little more makeup.
But bloody sammy released it as it was. I mean no cleanliness, no smoothness, no quickness.
I can feel the slow response of apps opening and closing which I never felt in ICS.
Even battery drains like HELL.
I am reverting back to ICS. I like quickness of ICS. I am not a heavy user.
I disable few apps or bloatware I don't use and ICS works awesome.
Your views.

Maybe you do not know how to make clean flash...
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JB is good for me..
Battery , smoothness, stability( with latest kernels)..
<<<The CRACKS on my NOTE shows how often it KISSES the FLOOR>>>

its very smooth in my note.even app transitions are awesome but there is lag in gallery.

Agree, battery drains like hell, many lag, hot issue... i will never buy a sammy device again
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JB is running better than ICS on my note. Its butter smooth and faster. Job done well samsung!
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Sv: Worst JB any company will ever release.
shahkam said:
Dude stop bashing their work go make your own software if you find theirs that ****ty... Needless to say you have the solution you said ics runs better for you.
Well use ics stop bashing and quit making useless threads like these.
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Stop bashing about it? He paid for it!

Agree i am saying the same. Ics release was way better than the jb release.
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Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- it's slow, at least Germany stock (maybe because I did only factory reset, still Ultimate ROM is incredibly smooth)
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
- battery life is worse, on ICS using WiFi didn't make any significant changes to usage time, on JB WiFi drains battery like crazy
- its general appearance is bad (ugly icons, switches etc but it matters the least)
- it's just quick mashup port of Note II's/GSIII's ROM, but that's the biggest advantage of it - airview, multiwindow, ink effect and other stuff work without sweat
I'll be using Ultimate for some time, but I'll probably return to ICS, few features I like doesn't compensate for stuff I miss or hate

Gambolputty said:
Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
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Bloody idiots. They miss ******* simple things.

the multitask and battery life for me makes all the difference, jb is a keeper they made touchwizz my favorite. The additional mods, with clean install and no recovery of app+data do the trick for me.
maybe you guys have rogue apps or something. Check you logcats
cm is really really awesome to, my fav vanilla flavour, but those touchwizz features wootwoot. I get same free mem after bloatware remove on touch as on cm.

Agree with this thread worst software update ever. Intead it should be considered as a downgrade in software quality very much unsatisfied this time
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shahkam said:
Dude stop bashing their work go make your own software if you find theirs that ****ty... Needless to say you have the solution you said ics runs better for you.
Well use ics stop bashing and quit making useless threads like these.
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It's true, I am the software.

It's not sooooooo bad after all, battery really drains fast but the ROM is quite normal i think.
I really like TouchWiz because we have some features like Multi-Window, S Note, Fully integration with the S Pen, etc.
Always wanted to use pure Android(CM and others) but i would miss the way to organize the apps on the Drawer as i want and they aren't non-Wiping ROMs, once that all these features are included on a ROM i would be free from Samsung ****ty updates.
Better an resonable Jelly Bean than no Jelly Bean.

Gambolputty said:
Kinda harsh language, but I must agree:
- it's slow, at least Germany stock (maybe because I did only factory reset, still Ultimate ROM is incredibly smooth)
- S Note is a joke (laggy and for the reason below)
- S Memo is missing and there's no Page widget - I looked at my Note's box, there's a neat picture of the phone there, it has 3 Memo widgets on it... WHAT THE HELL SAMMY? Why you delete a feature you advertise on box without giving any substitute?
- battery life is worse, on ICS using WiFi didn't make any significant changes to usage time, on JB WiFi drains battery like crazy
- its general appearance is bad (ugly icons, switches etc but it matters the least)
- it's just quick mashup port of Note II's/GSIII's ROM, but that's the biggest advantage of it - airview, multiwindow, ink effect and other stuff work without sweat
I'll be using Ultimate for some time, but I'll probably return to ICS, few features I like doesn't compensate for stuff I miss or hate
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Totally agree with you. Now I really think that its not only me who finds this ROM ugly.

Have you all moaners done full backup and wipe?
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bhatia.mani said:
Totally agree with you. Now I really think that its not only me who finds this ROM ugly.
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I actually like the appearance of the new icons/weather themes/wallpaper, that's why I was so looking forward to this release. But I agree with you guys, it sucked. When I bought my Note with 4.0.4, the impression it I got from it was the same as the Note II with TW UX gave me: smooooooth! I updated my Note officially through Kies, so I'm sure nothing went wrong in the 'flashing' process. I've also done a factory reset. But everything else lags except for home screen transitions, it's kind of a disappointment. S Note, Camera, Contacts take at least 4-5 seconds to load. Music player has stutters in music playback. There's a delay when using the S Pen.
But now I've moved onto a custom ROM, and it's keeping me really happy.

It's 50:50
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jakethesnakeuk said:
Have you all moanersthe done full backup and wipe?
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First of all I don't care about back up. So forget about it.
Secondly, I was using ICS with philz kernel. I did all 3 wipes and then wiped preload which says now install newROM.
Then I installed original ICS using PC odin. Then I updated JB using KIES. Then I reset internal memory by using factory reset.
If you think that this process is not good enough: then please come to india, new delhi and do it for me you moaner.
Hope every one who wants to say that full wipe do the trick. Please read this post.
My brother bought iphone 5 2 weeks back. I was the one who was insisting that he should not by iphone rather by android because of few OS limitation of bluetooth and no card slot.. But luckily he bought IPHONE. And now I feeel guilty that why I was insisting on android if this the quality.
I bought sony xperia for my father with A7 cortex processor which is lower than what note has. But guys believe me. Smoothness of that phone is way beyond our note. We cannot even expect that from crappy sammy.
I will never buy sammy again. Apple or sony will be the preference

bhatia.mani said:
My brother bought iphone 5 2 weeks back. I was the one who was insisting that he should not by iphone rather by android because of few OS limitation of bluetooth and no card slot.. But luckily he bought IPHONE. And now I feeel guilty that why I was insisting on android if this the quality.
I bought sony xperia for my father with A7 cortex processor which is lower than what note has. But guys believe me. Smoothness of that phone is way beyond our note. We cannot even expect that from crappy sammy.
I will never buy sammy again. Apple or sony will be the preference
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Agree with you bro. same story with me but the difference is that my friend bought an iphone.. Although it is not big as note but the plus point is that it never lags for me the next change is gonna be a iphone 5s
Ps: when you paid $600 or Inr 32000 for a phone you atleast expect that the phone should not hang.. I am very much disappointed with jellybean
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