[Q] What makes unlocking the R800x different? - Xperia Play General

After knowing about that for a while, I never really thought about why until today. My phone screwed up about a week ago after attempting to install a rom for unlocked only without realizing it. I was just curious because I fixed my phone with flashtool. With the Verizon Xperia Play, you pull the battery and put it back in, then you plug your USB cord into the PC, then you plug the micro-usb end into the phone while holding the back button while the phone is off and it'll put the phone into a certain mode that let me flash the R800x stock firmware and fully repair my phone. I don't know how to unlock the bootloader because I never looked into it, as the Verizon model requires a completely different method, that costs money, while the others could be done for free. Someone enlighten me.

I'd like you to read the Super compilation sticky in the Q&A section as it covers that topic extensively. Free unlocks can be performed only in few R800i phones.

Okay, thank you! I looked in the Q&A but I might have skimmed past it.

If you skim through the stuff on these forum i shall be honest with you. Do not unlocker your bootloader, you will end up with a broken phone sooner or later.
Just root it, you will be happy.

How to root please?

swebosdev said:
If you skim through the stuff on these forum i shall be honest with you. Do not unlocker your bootloader, you will end up with a broken phone sooner or later.
Just root it, you will be happy.
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I call nonsense on this. Why would unlocking your bootloader bring trouble? I've spent eight months with this sucker already, I unlocked it almost right away and it works like OOTB

Unlocked bootloaders are the spawn of Satan.
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netizenmt said:
Unlocked bootloaders are the spawn of Satan.
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No, LOCKED bootloaders are the spawn of Satan.

had my bootloader unlocked since launch day and works unbelievably well...
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not reading up on what you are doing first, and being stupid in general, is what breaks your phone

Umm, I'm on AT&T and I would have to pay for an unlocked bootloader the same as you. Only unlocked and unbranded phones purchased without a contract can do it for free and, honestly, it's probably worth paying for just to keep the DRM.

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R800X Users being teased?

Let's see
We can root it.
And fastboot recognizes our phone. It's kinda like we're missing something.
It's like those ****ers at Verizon are teasing us.
And does the D2 method work on this?
yep they are hell we can root it but can not install cm7. the roms we can install i dont thank are that good every one i ask online says cm7 is the best but i am hoping that they will make one we can flash with out having the bootloader unlocked because us R800X users can not do that (with out paying and thats something im not going to do)
what we need are more roms that are good and work with out haveing are bootloader unlocked i got the phone because i was thinking it was fun and it is and i was thinking i was going to be puting cm7 or ICS OS will i can not do ether of them and as of right now it sucks haveing the R800X i hope i can get something like a ICS like CM9 or at lest CM7 ya know
I am seriously about to pay the money though. Sure our nandroid roms are cool but I want CM9
I think you people should protest, they use you for money and dont care about user experience, be unbranded!!
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wissamidrissi said:
I think you people should protest, they use you for money and dont care about user experience, be unbranded!!
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I protested by unlocking my R800x's bootloader.
markcyst said:
I protested by unlocking my R800x's bootloader.
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This.
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DubleJayJ said:
I am seriously about to pay the money though. Sure our nandroid roms are cool but I want CM9
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others get to do it for free y do we have to pay so i dont think you need to pay the money for it because there has to be a way to get it for free and they do not have a CM9 working for the R800x yet only CM7
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I protested by unlocking my R800x's bootloader.
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I dont know y you have to be mean about it unless your offering to unlock are bootloaders thats not right for you to say that just to piss us off
This thread is pointless.
What no one understands is that the Xperia line is not like other phones.
Kernels will NEVER be able to be flashed via CWM on this phone.
Xperias do not have a boot portion onboard the system
To install ROMs like CM7, you MUST install a different kernel.
Sure, no one likes to pay.
But what other options do you have?
You can unlock by paying now, or you can try to wait it out
A free method will never come again.
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Leraeniesh said:
This thread is pointless.
What no one understands is that the Xperia line is not like other phones.
Kernels will NEVER be able to be flashed via CWM on this phone.
Xperias do not have a boot portion onboard the system
To install ROMs like CM7, you MUST install a different kernel.
Sure, no one likes to pay.
But what other options do you have?
You can unlock by paying now, or you can try to wait it out
A free method will never come again.
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Couldnt agree more. This will be a never ending debate. Anyone with a locked bootloader has (2) options .. a) Unlock your Bootloader .. b) Take the time to Learn how to develop a rom that you would like for your locked down phone.
Plus we're on Verizon, did you really think they would make it easy for ya?
Point of this thread was to discuss how Verizon gave us 99% of what we need,( fastboot and root) then tease us by not giving us the other 1%( IMEI or free way to unlock )
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Point of this thread was to discuss how Verizon gave us 99% of what we need,( fastboot and root) then tease us by not giving us the other 1%( IMEI or free way to unlock )
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... you know imei is the identifier for GSM phones, so there is no way any phone that is built for CDMA networks will have an imei, correct? ...
Oh, and Verizon has done their best to deny root (2.3.2 blocked gingerbreak, the old way to root. Zergrush was developed after 2.3.3 was released)
We didn't actually have fastboot enabled, on a stock phone.
So, actually Verizon did their very best to lock down the phone, and only due to the awesomeness of developers and unlockers on XDA, do we have the any freedom at all.
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Point of this thread was to discuss how Verizon gave us 99% of what we need,( fastboot and root) then tease us by not giving us the other 1%( IMEI or free way to unlock )
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While that may be your intent. This statement makes clear that you don't even understand the situation. Until you, and anyone else who would make a thread like this, either decides to read more (or quit posting) we will continue to have unproductive threads like this. Though I don't suppose you consider this unproductive...and THAT is the real problem here.
Let me make one thing clear for you. Verizon, gave you nothing. You sir, or whomever pays your cell bill are paying for quite a bit. But not on that list is the freedom to do what you will with your phone.
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I can't imagine having a branded phone now... having to pay to unlock the bootloader, Unbranded forever.
TheCraig said:
I can't imagine having a branded phone now... having to pay to unlock the bootloader, Unbranded forever.
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Yeah, I'm living it. I feel like it's a tease just for this reason. I look around here, knowing that I'm not going to *be able* to pay to unlock my bootloader, as I'm unemployed and in High School, I find some cool threads involving the R800x. I forget about needing a different kernel, and the developer doesn't thoroughly explain it enough to the point where I have to find that out the hard way.
Then I find some new customization apps, like maybe a new launcher and other stuff and realize that not having a custom ROM isn't all that bad, especially since R800x came with pure Vanilla Android, with customization at it's best. I eventually get bored with the setup on my phone after noticing some new features that are only available on custom ROMs, most commonly Theme Chooser with CyanogenMod, or MIUI in general, then the cycle repeats. I just can't learn... Silly me!
i just think the R800x should be able to unlock there bootloaders for free just like the other xperia plays because im just like the one guy that posted i dont have the money to pay to unlock my boot loader. it sucks being stuck using the 2.3.3 update win others get to use the cm7 with the 2.3.7 update it sucks for us it sucks bad
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i just think the R800x should be able to unlock there bootloaders for free just like the other xperia plays because im just like the one guy that posted i dont have the money to pay to unlock my boot loader. it sucks being stuck using the 2.3.3 update win others get to use the cm7 with the 2.3.7 update it sucks for us it sucks bad
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Its not the greatest thing.
But its not something to complain about either.
Either pay your dues, or attempt to find another way.
Whiney bunch of kids - you think everyone owes you something. Why don't you get off your pathetic whiny butts and get a job? Then you can afford to unlock it. It's like the cost of a couple of pizzas.
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netizenmt said:
Whiney bunch of kids - you think everyone owes you something. Why don't you get off your pathetic whiny butts and get a job? Then you can afford to unlock it. It's like the cost of a couple of pizzas.
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Yeah my god you guys whine! i got a gsm r800i which was bootloader and sim locked to O2, i had to pay to unlock the bootloader. Its only $24
Either stick with stock, or unlock the bootloader. The advantage with this method is that you keep your DRM keys so trackID still works
will for one dont say that its offensive to some of us i know it is me and i just was saying if others get to do it for free then its only far thats all im saying but if i got to pay then i guss i will pay to get it done

Att - Locked Bootloader?

I didn't know if any of the ATT PREORDERED NOTE 3's were out yet or not - but am curioius to find out if ATT is going to lock the bootloader for this phone like they did for the S4?
I think it is inevitable, but I was hoping that maybe they wouldn't be
If this is in the wrong forum for this, let me mknow or have the moderator delete this - I looked and couldn't find any other threads for the NOTE 3.
Anyone?
PS - if the bootler is locked for the ATT Varient - I was thinking of buying an unlocked phone - any difference between the N9000 and N9005?
99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.
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99% its going to be locked. Makes me want to wait for Nexus 5. To much of a headache for Samsung.
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I loved my NOTE 2 - got the S4 for the processor and camera - and want the Note 3 for the same reasons. The LOCKED BOOTLOADER thing is a bunch of crap - and it was a sad day when ATT started doing it. I doubt they will ever change policy, but I sure wish they would. It's one thing to lock a contract phone..I think I can understand their reasons for wanting to do that - but if I OWN the device - what business do they have preventing me from using it fully? arghh....oh well, fingers crossed we are both wrong - but I think your assessment was correct.
It's already been confirmed as locked by designgears. Great developer btw. Do a search. Also, look at the dev section cwm thread. Notice which models are missing? Att and Verizon.
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Also I would wait a week and wait for others to confirm the T-Mobile note 3 works on att. All data so far says it will. This has been discussed in a few threads.
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T-mobile note 3 working on AT&T as in LTE as well? 3g should work without any issue I would think.
If so it would make perfect sense to purchase a t-mobile n3 outright just for the unlocked bootloader.
Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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mircury said:
Yes, LTE as well. Full compatability. Along with a few extra bands. Just need to confirm this week with a real device.
There is a bigger thread on here discussing this. Check the Q&A forum.
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Now for some shipping confirmation!!!!! I'm right with you!!!! Come on Negri!!!
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...
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So what does the future look like for the N900A? Does the locked bootloader mean the only way to obtain root access will be through an exploit someone may eventually stumble upon? Will it most likely never be flashable, or is anything a possibility at this point? I have one on preorder and it's feeling like more of a downgrade all the time...
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It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.
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It's basically the same situation as the AT&T S4 with the newest knox firmware. Most likely an exploit found on that will also work on the AT&T note 3. I don't think anything is 100% secure but it may be a long time till one is found. I don't know if safestrap can be adapted or not. As far as flashing roms it depends on how much the phone is locked down but in the past if it was using a signed kernel then a custom rom could be flashed as long as it kept the stock kernel. You can be sure though that some very talented people are working on it. It's just a waiting game at this point.
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Thanks, that gives me a bit of hope... Most people thought the PS3 would never get owned, and it obviously was As it is I'm basically buying an expensive bike with training wheels rigged to blow the tires if removed and a titanium boot permanently affixed that the most powerful blowtorch available cannot cut through.

US Z1s Tell Sony to give us the option unlock BL!

I tweeted them.
@sonyxperiauS * @SonyXperia* US version of Z1s bootloader is NOT unlockable. I'm returning it until you give us option to unlock.
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I tweeted them.
@sonyxperiauS * @SonyXperia* US version of Z1s bootloader is NOT unlockable. I'm returning it until you give us option to unlock.
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It isn't up to Sony, the carrier has told Sony it wants to buy phones with locked bootloaders, blame your carrier instead.
Can't say I'm suprised in the least. It's supposed to be Tmobile exclusive flag ship. That said it's not the first locked bootloader the world has seen. Is just a matter of time before someone figures out a workaround.
We can still flash international stock ROMs right? That good enough for me if I ever feel the need to use a custom rom I have my note 3 for that.
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nightfox11 said:
We can still flash international stock ROMs right? That good enough for me if I ever feel the need to use a custom rom I have my note 3 for that.
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I doubt it, since the internal memory layout is different.
Rekoil said:
It isn't up to Sony, the carrier has told Sony it wants to buy phones with locked bootloaders, blame your carrier instead.
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Exactly, Z1s was meant to be for TMO so we can't blame Sony. Actually many people advice us to do not buy the Xperia from Carriers because of that, but like all the times many do not search and read carefully.
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Exactly, Z1s was meant to be for TMO so we can't blame Sony. Actually many people advice us to do not buy the Xperia from Carriers because of that, but like all the times many do not search and read carefully.
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Reasons I waited for T-Mobile is WiFi calling and it has all the bands for their network. I just hope we can obtained root soon, can't live without it.
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epsix said:
Reasons I waited for T-Mobile is WiFi calling and it has all the bands for their network. I just hope we can obtained root soon, can't live without it.
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Maybe we can put the TMOUS firmware on a C6906.
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epsix said:
Reasons I waited for T-Mobile is WiFi calling and it has all the bands for their network. I just hope we can obtained root soon, can't live without it.
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On locked bootloader should be no problem, the root come soon. Someone just complain because of permanently locked bootloader and no custom kernels for them.
Is there or will there be any way to root without unlocking the bootloader? I dont really care about flashing the rom but rooting is a whole different story for me :/
Agreed. Rooting is essential at the very least.
Sony and T-Mobile need to realize that people who purchase this device are very discerning consumers and tech users. We didn't just settle for the s4.
We chose this device for superior styling, specs, and build quality. And i hope i speak for others too when i say that i jumped to T-Mobile (despite concerns of service quality) because i was tired of the service i was receiving from my old carrier. I am thus far very pleased.
John Legere claims that all his grand ideas were the result of listening to customers carrier woes. Honestly he is the reason i switched. Not because i think T-Mobile will be the best carrier, but because i think he can/will change the industry and that deserves a little faith. Well i think it's time for John to have a little faith in us.
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Honestly we should write a letter to Mr Legere with attached signatures from users of all android devices petitioning for the unlocking of bootloaders on all currently supported and future handsets.
Am i correct in assuming this does not affect sim unlock? Hell they could require that the handset be paid off or that the user be enrolled in the jump program (insured).
We need to show manufacturers and carriers how big the Android modding community is and let them see that this community is the future of android and all mobile device development.
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oxidax said:
Is there or will there be any way to root without unlocking the bootloader? I dont really care about flashing the rom but rooting is a whole different story for me :/
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Yes, Z1 can be rooted with Locked Bootloader so Z1s will be too, give them some time.
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POMF2K said:
Am i correct in assuming this does not affect sim unlock?
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Yes, you are correct.
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Yes, Z1 can be rooted with Locked Bootloader so Z1s will be too, give them some time.
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Thats great then! Its my first time with a non nexus phone so thats why im like freaking out lol!
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Maybe we can put the TMOUS firmware on a C6906.
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Has there been much dev progress here? As soon as someone dumps a FTF, C6906s can start flashing them and seeing what breaks. I have an AT&T sim card, though, so I can't really help. I ended up with a Telus C6906 anyway, so it's locked BL.
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Sony and T-Mobile need to realize that people who purchase this device are very discerning consumers and tech users. We didn't just settle for the s4.
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Honestly, I don't think they want to win the "discerning and technical" crowd so much as they just want a big market share. The portion of the marketshare who cares about root/unlock BL/customization is not big enough for them to fight carriers and keep the product financially viable. The carriers are going to push way more sales volume than Sony could on their own, so Sony has to appease them. If it wanted to, maybe Sony could become the Tesla of handsets (distribution without dealerships), but there's no precedent or market case for all that leg work.
Never get a phone without permission to unlock bootloader guys
if u want a cheap phone, just get parallel version
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, so it's locked BL..
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It's locked permanently or can be unlocked?
Technically, "carrier bootloader locked." As in, "bootloader unlock allowed: no". The official unlock procedure doesn't work, obviously, but I'm confident that this is possible to reverse.
I've been doing some research on how to bypass this (talking to Sony dev, reviewing how it was done on the Z), but haven't had much time since the holidays to actually hack the hardware yet.
Never huge fan of Sony, I only purchased this cause its water resistance. After seeing how easy it is to brick this device, i wouldn't even try to unlock BL even if it's unlockable. But really wants root though. :thumbup:
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The future of android development for the lg g4

Will the limitation on most G4 models (unrootable,locked) forever burden the independent development scene?
I wanna buy the rootable international version but I'm afraid that the limitations on other models would mean less development (less LG4 custom roms/kernel/etc to choose from).
Is this just a minor issue until someone finds a method to unlock all phones? It's literally the only reason I didn't buy it yesterday.
Patience. Root will come. Any dev who wants a $2000+ payday will figure it out soon enough, according to 1 sizeable bounty on XDA...
The phone is great without root anyway...I too desperately miss some features on the unrootable dual SIM G4, but no way near enough to stop me getting it now before root. I'd be posting this in the root thread/s, there's plenty of them...
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Patience. Root will come. Any dev who wants a $2000+ payday will figure it out soon enough, according to 1 sizeable bounty on XDA...
The phone is great without root anyway...I too desperately miss some features on the unrootable dual SIM G4, but no way near enough to stop me getting it now before root. I'd be posting this in the root thread/s, there's plenty of them...
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There's been a higher bounty for the Galaxy s4 bootloader unlock thats been sitting for years.
Still...S4 is rooted
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There's been a higher bounty for the Galaxy s4 bootloader unlock thats been sitting for years.
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im sure all G4 variants get unlocked, when 815-EUR is already unlocked.
Maybe it is your tele provider that stop the unlocking?
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We got an update from a couple of devs yesterday. They currently all have root, and are looking at the best method to release. It also sounds like they are confident of a bootloader unlock as well.
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There's been a higher bounty for the Galaxy s4 bootloader unlock thats been sitting for years.
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He's talking about the root bounty, not bootloader.
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spotmark said:
We got an update from a couple of devs yesterday. They currently all have root, and are looking at the best method to release. It also sounds like they are confident of a bootloader unlock as well.
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After the turmoil and white knuckle fighting to unlock the seemingly impenetrable g4 bootloader i realize what true happiness is when that day arrives..... Then the g4 pro debuts and i "have" to buy it and I'm back to square one and the cycle continues.
waiting for the tmobile version to be unlocked~ >.<
I decided against waiting for it and returned my G4 -- I *might* buy it again if I see a bootloader unlock.
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There's been a higher bounty for the Galaxy s4 bootloader unlock thats been sitting for years.
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The G2 still has a locked bootloader, didn't mean anything. There are ways to bypass it, like Loki and Bump, but it is a shame that we can't just enter a couple ADB commands to get unlock and root.
Took mine back and sticking to my Lovely G3 for now
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Im about to take mine back too....
komugi said:
I decided against waiting for it and returned my G4 -- I *might* buy it again if I see a bootloader unlock.
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That was a bit silly... all dev XDA phones (G4) are rooted. They need to develop a safe and efficient alternative for end users without the potential for bricking which is why it's not released yet, so technically "we have root", but it's just not released/widespread yet. Check the other G4 boards - one of the main contributors, Autoprime, confirms my comments above. But... if you can't wait, you can't wait...
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Something I don't understand is the h815 is unlockable rootable and has custom recovery so why is there no custom rom at all surely some dev could compile cm or omni for the h815 or does no dev have been able to get an international handset yet
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roosta said:
That was a bit silly... all dev XDA phones (G4) are rooted. They need to develop a safe and efficient alternative for end users without the potential for bricking which is why it's not released yet, so technically "we have root", but it's just not released/widespread yet. Check the other G4 boards - one of the main contributors, Autoprime, confirms my comments above. But... if you can't wait, you can't wait...
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"We have root" doesn't mean anything until "I have root."
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silent_bob52637 said:
Something I don't understand is the h815 is unlockable rootable and has custom recovery so why is there no custom rom at all surely some dev could compile cm or omni for the h815 or does no dev have been able to get an international handset yet
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A very small number of people have an unlocked device. The vast majority of developers don't have one.
That's what I am trying to figure out I know its only the international that's rootable and unlockable but do no devs at all have the international handset? The source is there but I only have an old XP laptop thats to slow to compile but surely someone can
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stl-soldier said:
"We have root" doesn't mean anything until "I have root."
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A very small number of people have an unlocked device. The vast majority of developers don't have one.
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It does mean something, it means root will be available soon enough, as opposed to there being no hope for it at all.
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It does mean something, it means root will be available soon enough, as opposed to there being no hope for it at all.
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Soon
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Do't worry guys, for Root is on its way. It might take a little bit of time, but it is better to wait and get a safe root method rather than end up with a bricked device.
Just remember, our Devs are people too, they have real life issues, goals, and plans, So it IS NOT like they can just sit at their computer 24/7 until they get everything wrapped up in a nice little package for you.

Root (DROID)

Okay, so call me crazy/stupid but what is the easiest way to root my Moto Z Force Droid Edition?
ThisIsAGoodUsername said:
Okay, so call me crazy/stupid but what is the easiest way to root my Moto Z Force Droid Edition?
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Root is automatically activated when the phone has been in free fall for more than 10 seconds. Find a tall building and throw your phone off of it.
Seriously, have a look around before you post questions like this.
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ThisIsAGoodUsername said:
Okay, so call me crazy/stupid but what is the easiest way to root my Moto Z Force Droid Edition?
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Not at all at the moment.
PiousInquisitor said:
Root is automatically activated when the phone has been in free fall for more than 10 seconds. Find a tall building and throw your phone off of it.
Seriously, have a look around before you post questions like this.
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He was just asking a basic question. Did you really have to reply so meanly to him?
With it being a Verizon Droid brand, there's a good chance the answer is never. Probably not a lot of developers with the phone and Big Red is pretty serious about locking it down, hence the answers.
PiousInquisitor said:
Root is automatically activated when the phone has been in free fall for more than 10 seconds. Find a tall building and throw your phone off of it.
Seriously, have a look around before you post questions like this.
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Actually I have looked. I have seen several sources that claim rooting this latest VZW Droid phone is trivially easy. They even post instructions on how to do it.
Now, I wasn't at first going to believe those sources, because they have some odd errors, like 1/2 way thru their instructions they start to refer to the Mot Z Force Droid as being a Samsung phone.
However, based on your knowledgeable answer, I will take your vouching that these sources are being 100% reliable.
WaltA said:
However, based on your knowledgeable answer, I will take your vouching that these sources are being 100% reliable.
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Quite the opposite. If there isn't a root method on this forum, then there isn't one that works.
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WaltA said:
Actually I have looked. I have seen several sources that claim rooting this latest VZW Droid phone is trivially easy. They even post instructions on how to do it.
Now, I wasn't at first going to believe those sources, because they have some odd errors, like 1/2 way thru their instructions they start to refer to the Mot Z Force Droid as being a Samsung phone.
However, based on your knowledgeable answer, I will take your vouching that these sources are being 100% reliable.
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I've seen several sources claiming root for NON-VZW Moto Z phones (i.e.: Bootloader unlocked), I've seen none valid for VZW Droid (i.e.: Locked down like fort Knox)... Guess we have different search engines.
Wrote to Moto, no intention of unlocking it either. So unless someone finds an exploit/backdoor/Universal unlock key, you're SOL.
The current issue is that taking an update will destroy your chances of getting root. Take 0 updates until an exploit is found that will allow us root. Dirtycow/quadrooter are the only linux exploits that we might be able to get to work. Its just a matter of who. I know Jcase (https://twitter.com/jcase?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) has posted in a couple places about compiling dirtycow and even has an "Android Hacking" basics kinda PDF floating around. He has done a lot in the community (SunShine) he doesn't deserve the hate being thrown at him for not developing a root method for this one device.
daifunai said:
He was just asking a basic question. Did you really have to reply so meanly to him?
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It's the trend nowadays.
Instead of helping he posts what he did.
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Sirshark10 said:
Take 0 updates until an exploit is found that will allow us root.
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Oh. Well now I regret taking all those updates. I still doubt we'll get root on this device tho. I can only hope. It seems XDA forums has gone quiet and essentially given up on trying to root this phone, but I hope I'm wrong about that.
MOARStuff said:
Oh. Well now I regret taking all those updates. I still doubt we'll get root on this device tho. I can only hope. It seems XDA forums has gone quiet and essentially given up on trying to root this phone, but I hope I'm wrong about that.
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pretty much true
I wish that some developer would even try working on this. I myself have thought of many things and will probably create a separate post for root soon since I have a couple ideas which I feel MIGHT MAYBE work, but I need the XDA community to pitch in and help me think of a method. Like I said, I have a rough idea but it needs refining, which I can hopefully get from the community.
Moto z force jailbreak
So what you guys are saying it's inpossable to jail brake our phone? So I should just go out and get a new phone if I want to jail break it?
I was aware the when I bought my phone used that the Droid version probably wouldn't see root anytime soon but I bought it anyway because I did research online and felt the phone had good enough specs and the UI looked good and had cool features so I personally don't even need or miss having root on this phone. My reasons for rooting phones has ALWAYS been for performance tweaks with occasional UI adjustments.
My last phone was an Acend XT (H611) which before having the bootloader unlocked and flashing a debloated and tweaked stock rom it was an utter POS. I paid $50 for that Ascent XT and I liked it but performance and UI wise it doesn't even compare to the Moto Z Force. So I personally don't even miss having root.
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Alex222339 said:
So what you guys are saying it's inpossable to jail brake our phone? So I should just go out and get a new phone if I want to jail break it?
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Yeah need bootloader unlocked and Verizon won't let Lenovo Unlock our Droid version.
I am more concerned about when we will get another update for Oreo because it has problems sometimes.... I have to restart my phone once a week because the fingerprint scanner or chop for flashlight stop working or some other random bug pops up.
Damn Verizon, thets how they killed the turbo 2

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