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I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
Yea it's been a while homie... The creator of it is working on trying to achieve it in our device as well
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I thought that this video would give some hope to the AT&T N3 community. Looks like the Verizon N3 is going to get (or got) a program called Safestrap which is allowing them to install custom ROMs and other things on their version of the N3. This should be made applicable to the AT&T version soon. It may not be as flexible as a unlocked bootloader but does give some hope of being able to have the phone the way you like it.
http://galaxynote3root.com/galaxy-n...-custom-rom-using-safestrap-on-galaxy-note-3/
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Oh man let's hope for the best. This is all kind of new to me having these issues. Even my One X was a pain in the ass, but not THIS bad with unlocking.
Will safe strap include being able to flash a kernel? That's honestly the #1 reason for an unlocked bootloader for me. I love playing around with cpu and gpu parameters trying to achieve best battery to performance. Plus faux123 has his kernel and coming from it with a nexus 4 I wish I had it on this device.
Safe strap will not allow kernel flashing. Only ROMs. It high-jacks boot up and redirects the device to boot from a secondary partition you create on the internal memory. You will lose space on internal memory to use safestrap. Although the Verizon folks (me included) have been able to overwrite the factory partition to avoid space lose. If you want to flash kernels you need to drop the 700 dollars on development edition of the phone. I can't believe how dead the development thread is for this device I was just looking for some options for a friend of mine who just got his AT&T N3.
I got more jelly beans than jelly belly, on my S3, S4, and both my Notes
Guess I should have stuck with nexus. Oh well ill trade the ability to flash kernels and roms for a removable battery and an sd card and large screen.
I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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I'm pretty sure the DEVS within these forums will eventually find a way to crack the system. It's just a matter of time and patience.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I would be shocked, but thanks. I hope your right because this sucks. I want to run Jedi bad.
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Got to have patience man. It's only been 2 months since the phone launched. I understand it is taking a long time...but it will get done.
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I have a locked S4 and have been waiting since I got it the wait will be long.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen. This is sad but it looks like the Note 3 (At&t Version) will never have an unlocked bootloader. There is no way around it.
I will never buy another At&t phone again in my life. I will never buy a Samsung device again in my life.
I'm done with them both. I hope their happy. This is what they want.
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Agreed +1
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Will be a nice xmas gift to have an unlocked bootloader. 3 month mark should be a good gauge as to whether it will ever happen
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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C'on where's the faith in our community of developers? :good:
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They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
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They're still trying to unlock the dx. I had one. I did get used to just flashing roms, it's not that bad.
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good news...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/105617-safestrap-for-the-n3-vzw-and-att-testing-started/?p=1567258
Browsing in the Google play I found this app is a bootloader unlocker. I know is no for the att smartphone o Verizon phones, but I'm sure the developers of xda can dig deep inside the app and figure it out which files hack to unlock the bootloader in att phones. Here is the picture of the app.
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Hauwei uses a COMPLETELY different bootloader than Samsung, so I highly doubt this would work, or even be useful for anyone trying to unlock the Samsung bootloaders.
Side-note, get a Canadian one with MG1 and you're fully unlocked right out of the box. =)
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Browsing in the Google play I found this app is a bootloader unlocker. I know is no for the att smartphone o Verizon phones, but I'm sure the developers of xda can dig deep inside the app and figure it out which files hack to unlock the bootloader in att phones. Here is the picture of the app.
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The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
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The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
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There are people actively working on trying to crack the bootloader, don't know where you've been. Most of the work is happening over on the Verizon S4 forum... it's already been stated that if one is cracked the other should be venerable to the same exploits.
Well you're right about s4 not being flagship much longer. The S5 will be out in Feb. Lol
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There are people actively working on trying to crack the bootloader, don't know where you've been. Most of the work is happening over on the Verizon S4 forum... it's already been stated that if one is cracked the other should be venerable to the same exploits.
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Do you know if DJBliss is working on it?
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The AT&T Galaxy S4's bootloader will NOT be unlocked again. The loki method unlocked it last spring, but most developers have moved onto other devices. The S4 will not be Sammy's flagship for too much longer.
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So do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader once the s5 comes out?
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So do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader once the s5 comes out?
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They said they will only have locked bootloaders from now on. Its absolutely ridiculous! The S2, S3, Note, and Note 2 all were on AT&T with unlocked bootloaders. I want to know why they are cracking down now. They claim locked bootloaders provide a more consistent experience. Guess I didn't realize that my phone works so much better with all the AT&T crapware installed.
The AT&T Galaxy S5 will have a locked bootloader, which will probably take even more time and effort to hack.
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They said they will only have locked bootloaders from now on. Its absolutely ridiculous! The S2, S3, Note, and Note 2 all were on AT&T with unlocked bootloaders. I want to know why they are cracking down now. They claim locked bootloaders provide a more consistent experience. Guess I didn't realize that my phone works so much better with all the AT&T crapware installed.
The AT&T Galaxy S5 will have a locked bootloader, which will probably take even more time and effort to hack.
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No I mean on the s4. Do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader on the s4 once the s5 comes out?
No they will not unlock the S4 bootloader before during or after the release of the S5 . The S4 is locked now , I had to get a warranty replacement which came with the new software . To be brutally honest I dont even want the damn phone anymore because of the locked software . Knox trips out and sends me notifications regularly . Of course I cant disable it or even remove it . Personally I think they really borked this phone to hell and back.
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No I mean on the s4. Do you think at&t will unlock the bootloader on the s4 once the s5 comes out?
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I doubt it. But anything can happen. I hope they do. But it was unlocked once and AT&T just patched that right up.
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No they will not unlock the S4 bootloader before during or after the release of the S5 . The S4 is locked now , I had to get a warranty replacement which came with the new software . To be brutally honest I dont even want the damn phone anymore because of the locked software . Knox trips out and sends me notifications regularly . Of course I cant disable it or even remove it . Personally I think they really borked this phone to hell and back.
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They did. In the beginning it was a cool phone because we had development for it. Now we're so limited on what we can do. Rooting it can even be dangerous with some of the new methods.
Its a shame that the S4 is now the iPhone of Androids. All nice and locked down making it near impossible for the user to get the most out of his device.
The s4 bootloader will not be unlocked again. The only hope we have is a loki-que exploit. Jeboo's new patch allows the live booting of unsigned modules but only until the memory is erase (i.e. reboot). I believe I read somewhere from hash code that he is trying to get jeboos patch to work with kexec so it can be used during boot in combination with safestrap to load custom kernals and in turn, allowing the use of aosp roms.
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cyrushehe said:
How long could it be before an implementation of this for the average user on XDA? Days? Weeks? Months?
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Your guess is as good as anyone else's. All I know is that @Hashcode knows about this and is trying to get kexec working using this.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2578566&page=3
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I doubt it. But anything can happen. I hope they do. But it was unlocked once and AT&T just patched that right up.
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The bootloader was never and has never been unlocked, and will never be unlocked by ATT, nor will any future ATT phones come with an unlocked bootloader. what youre refering to was loki which was an exploit/workaround that allowed custom kernels, it was not an unlock...but it did get the job done.
All we can do now is hope hashcode can get kexec working with safestrap or some other loki-like exploit
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The bootloader was never and has never been unlocked, and will never be unlocked by ATT, nor will any future ATT phones come with an unlocked bootloader. what youre refering to was loki which was an exploit/workaround that allowed custom kernels, it was not an unlock...but it did get the job done.
All we can do now is hope hashcode can get kexec working with safestrap or some other loki-like exploit
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Thanks for clearing that up. I was always under the impression it was unlocked because we were able to run CWM/TWRP.
Highly doubt AT&T will ever unlock the bootloader, but it would be nice if we had an AT&T developer edition of the S4.
More than likely my next phone will be a Nexus device . I went with the S4 due to the SD card slot and removable battery . Also I don't see the nexus line ever going to this configuration but to have an unlocked device that I am able to manipulate the system on it as I should with a device that is mine . I will have to lose in other catagories to gain in others so be it . Just pretty much over this cat and mouse game with carriers / manufacturers dealing with locked unlocked bootloaders and force fed bloatware .
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More than likely my next phone will be a Nexus device . I went with the S4 due to the SD card slot and removable battery . Also I don't see the nexus line ever going to this configuration but to have an unlocked device that I am able to manipulate the system on it as I should with a device that is mine . I will have to lose in other catagories to gain in others so be it . Just pretty much over this cat and mouse game with carriers / manufacturers dealing with locked unlocked bootloaders and force fed bloatware .
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I'm pretty sure my next phone will NOT be ATT. Other than that I'm still pretty open brand-wise
i really like my S4 with my tax refund im just going to get buy an international version of it, and sell my at&t branded one. or trade it for something else like an iphone to play with. Or ill wait and see how the S5 looks.
As was mentioned already, kexec is probably the only feasible solution at this point. The ATT/VZW BL bounties have been 5k+ (I think) for months on end with no reportable progress.
If I stick with Sammy for the S5, it will be the international version since I pay full price anyways. They have a huge dev community and strong user base, something ATT/VZW has ruined
As been stated, there will be no bootloader unlocked for the att s4..what a crock...I have since moved on to the Note3 tmo UNLOCKED device. I still use my S4, frankly, I have no problem using loki on the phone....I have never let any of my phones ever do updates, never seen one upgrade with the OTA...
Sad this happened because I really liked the S4. All my HTC phones are unlocked, S-Off and the whole nine. I had this phone for only 4 days and besides it's beauty, it was a disheartening experience. I think this trumps the Optimus L9's experience of a locked bootloader. Even the Optimus G Pro's bootloader can be unlocked using an app.
I think Sammy wants to be Apple in regards to how Apple has a user experience of being locked. Also with the fake S3s/S4s/Note out there they probably do not want their software cloned.
I will say in the 4 days I had it it prompted me to start a business. I learned how to root and unlock the phone just by switching modems and running regionlockaway.
So this is just a simple Poll Thread. Just wondering if we think the VZW Note 4 will ever see some kind of unlock!
Now a midst allot of the talk going around some say we may HAVE TO have an unlocked bootloader to even consider root.
So this Poll is going to be asking the following question? It is not more so about will we get Unlocked, or will we get root.
The question is:
Do you think we will see any type of unlocking/rooting method for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Retail?
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So this is just a simple Poll Thread. Just wondering if we think the VZW Note 4 will ever see some kind of unlock!
Now a midst allot of the talk going around some say we may HAVE TO have an unlocked bootloader to even consider root.
So this Poll is going to be asking the following question? It is not more so about will we get Unlocked, or will we get root.
The question is:
Do you think we will see any type of unlocking/rooting method for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Retail?
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I say no but with the note 4 you don't need it but TBU and Adway would be nice
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I say no but with the note 4 you don't need it but TBU and Adway would be nice
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Go ahead and put your vote in the top of the OP sir! Id like to see what everyone has to think about this topic!
Granted im very inclined to agree with you on your answer. I dont think its necessary. More or less a habit just to do it and were spoiled with the features! But yes some of the perks would definitely be nice!
I say no. I think every Samsung phone from here on out will be locked down tight on Att and Verizon. Sprint will have root and that will be the only route for rooting in the near future.
I HIGHLY disagree... this device will definitely see root. And although it performs great without it, things like write protection completely diminish the joy of having a capable device. We'll see root, maybe not an unlocked bootloader... but there's always safestrap....Samsung's devs are great, buy ours are better... hence the hiring of Steve.
For 1 just because it is hard to root makes it more tempting for someone to cracking the code and for 2 touchwiz sux it lags freezes and remove all that crap that Verizon and samsung put on our phones.
I mean... the Note 3 was the same.. it had a Root. I'm sure something will pop up
prob have root but no unlock bootloader
Looking back at old devices and seeing where we are now. I think the chances of obtaining a root exploit for this device are like 1 in a million. So I'm going with no on both. But that doesn't take away any value of the phone itself, its still the biggest beast around currently. Its also priced the most among online marketplaces next to the iPhone 6.
Highly unlikely. If it does, it will be some new universal root that happens to work on the Verizon version, but nothing Verizon specific.
Maybe if everyone keeps saying no, someone will look at this thread and be like, "can't? I can't? Lemme show these dudes why I am who I am." Lol
This is the only phone I have ever owned where my keeping it Is not based on root.
Of course I want root, and yes I believe it will happen eventually.
I really hope it will happen. I really have been grinding my teeth using the note 4 without root. I need my per app dpi settings, adaway, and more xposed modules. Honestly I would probably return it if I still could.
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This is the only phone I have ever owned where my keeping it Is not based on root.
Of course I want root, and yes I believe it will happen eventually.
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Ditto... love it so far!
Hard to say, but I'm thinking no.
"No" right now and once L is released, helL no. Sorry, but that is what it seems to me.
Results as of right now
Well it seems like the dial is leaning more towards the side of most people thinking we will or most certainly get root.
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Those who think more than likely not or most certainly not.
Ive got high hopes but like i stated im mighty happy with how the device is performing at this point in time. Of course the added benifit of removing junk would be great if anything that and xposed!
Im keeping my Root Alert set to high! LOL
Thanks for voting it up fellas! :good:
i say 100% on KK and on L 75%
i have read a thread just like this on soooo many devices since the OG Droid and the only thing that has been successful since has been locking the bootloader. N4 just needs the right people with it in their hands and that will eventually happen.
L has already gained root access without a modified kernel which you can read about here.
personally i am not moving from the N3 until there is root and at minimum SafeStrap working. i have most of the N4 software features mixed with some L and some S5 stuff with a great theme and some amazing Xposed apps on my N3 that i am not willing to give up. customization from theme to software tweaks is something i highly value.
No root mark my words
What about the KNOX flag? Does it not really matter? I pay 10$ a month for insurace so does the warranty matter that much?
Seems as my ATT S7E Silver from AT&T came with an unlocked bootloader, I am able to enable OEM Mode.
If anyone has any methods to fully check if it's unlocked please lmk, not sure if this is some sort of glitch or something?
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Seems as my ATT S7E Silver from AT&T came with an unlocked bootloader, I am able to enable OEM Mode.
If anyone has any methods to fully check if it's unlocked please lmk, not sure if this is some sort of glitch or something?
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Your bootloader isn't unlocked
"And on that bombshell!"
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s7freak said:
Your bootloader isn't unlocked
"And on that bombshell!"
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So then what is the OEM Switch?
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So then what is the OEM Switch?
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If the bootloader was unlockable then you would have to have that button engaged. ATT bootloader is locked down tight and won't be broke
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If the bootloader was unlockable then you would have to have that button engaged. ATT bootloader is locked down tight and won't be broke
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So when I enabled it, it did nothing lol?
Thanks for the info.
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So when I enabled it, it did nothing lol?
Thanks for the info.
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Sorry man but no LOL but don't give up someone might give as a root exploit even if we have to use FlashFire
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My S7 Edge is my first Samsung phone. Can anyone tell me what makes something like FlashFire a last resort? What is wrong with it as a root method?
czucker said:
My S7 Edge is my first Samsung phone. Can anyone tell me what makes something like FlashFire a last resort? What is wrong with it as a root method?
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Because it isn't a root method.
FlashFire is an excellent application/pseudo recovery that allows one to back up/flash certain Roms and mods.
There isn't root for the G935A yet and there might not be one keep your fingers crossed
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Definitely not wanting another locked ATT piece of crap. As for ATT...
I will own my G900A on OC4 TMS5 3.0 custom rom in 3 months, THEN WHAT??? They are choking us programmer types to death these days (no, I do not do phone programming, old dog here. I wish I knew how. Too old and lazy...LOL).
Yeah, my S5 from at&t has a locked bootloader and I'm rooted. I have to use OA1 bootloader though for it to work. Everything else is using OF3.
I think each time I get a phone that root will never happen and it always eventually happens. The S7 seems like it's selling like hotcakes, so I'm confident that one of the genius's here will figure it out.
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Seems as my ATT S7E Silver from AT&T came with an unlocked bootloader, I am able to enable OEM Mode.
If anyone has any methods to fully check if it's unlocked please lmk, not sure if this is some sort of glitch or something?
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If you require root, don't buy carrier branded phones. Mainly ATT and Verizon.
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If you require root, don't buy carrier branded phones. Mainly ATT and Verizon.
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Where did that person say "I require root"? I'm...pretty sure they were wondering about the oem switch in the settings, because it's a curious thing. Besides, what if they want to root their at&t or Verizon phone? Maybe it's a younger person whose parents got the phone for them. Maybe they couldn't just shell out eight hun for an international phone. Maybe they're just learning about rooting after buying their phone. Maybe they just want to root their at&t phone & so what? You know, the odds are there will be root early on for the s7 on all variants, and then they'll patch the exploit, so... Anyway, your comment just seems kinda douchey.
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Where did that person say "I require root"? I'm...pretty sure they were wondering about the oem switch in the settings, because it's a curious thing. Besides, what if they want to root their at&t or Verizon phone? Maybe it's a younger person whose parents got the phone for them. Maybe they couldn't just shell out eight hun for an international phone. Maybe they're just learning about rooting after buying their phone. Maybe they just want to root their at&t phone & so what? You know, the odds are there will be root early on for the s7 on all variants, and then they'll patch the exploit, so... Anyway, your comment just seems kinda douchey.
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I think you're reading too much into one sentence on an internet based forum. Clearly, since you took time out of your day to try an counsel me with a paragraph of verbiage suggesting that I was somehow patronizing the original post. I was simply suggesting that carriers such as AT&T and Verizon are making it increasingly difficult on users to have full control over their phones, which, of course, ties into bootloader unlocking, etc. A poor attempt on your part to try and do the job of a forum moderator, obviously. Let's keep it on topic please
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I think you're reading too much into one sentence on an internet based forum. Clearly, since you took time out of your day to try an counsel me with a paragraph of verbiage suggesting that I was somehow patronizing the original post. I was simply suggesting that carriers such as AT&T and Verizon are making it increasingly difficult on users to have full control over their phones, which, of course, ties into bootloader unlocking, etc. A poor attempt on your part to try and do the job of a forum moderator, obviously. Let's keep it on topic please
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This is a thread regarding the oem switch and whether or not the BOOTLOADER is unlocked when activating it. Then you added your snotty two cents about "if you require root," which is way off topic, and made you sound like an a******. Then you allude to me being off topic? Nah, man, nah. If I misinterpreted what you were attempting to express, it's because your critical thinking is sub-par, and you should think clearly about what you're going to write before doing so. But that's really not the case and you know it. You jump to conclusions too. I'm not attempting to moderate, I'm just calling you out on your s***. A hard pill to swallow, a difficult reflection to face. Now you want to be nasty with me; That's cool.
I just got a bogo on at&t for two s7 edge phones. I don't "require root," but I sure hope it becomes available. Got two vr gears, and two 64gb micro sd's free when I did the deal at bestbuy. I think root will happen, but to get back to topic, I doubt that the bootloader will ever get unlocked. I just want you to know that I care, and if you need more counseling, I'm here for you. Peace.
~Xjimmy
The switch alone doesn't unlock the bootloader even on devices that can have the bootloader unlocked. It is part of native android and I'm betting Samsung just forgot to remove/hide it.
Also it's not just the att and Verizon versions. All the US models have locked bootloaders with no unlock available.
I wish you luck but to be honest all the devs that might have been able to do it refuse to work on Samsung devices anymore. Just look at some other Samsung devices with huge bounties set. No one has done it yet.
If you need an unlocked bootloader and or root then Samsung is not the best Idea. They want to lock their devices down permanently. Which no one can really blame them as they try to break into the business market and modders make up less then 1% of their sales and shrinking.
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Also it's not just the att and Verizon versions. All the US models have locked bootloaders with no unlock available.
I wish you luck but to be honest all the devs that might have been able to do it refuse to work on Samsung devices anymore. Just look at some other Samsung devices with huge bounties set. No one has done it yet.
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Hi, what phone would you suggest? I love my ATT S5, which is still on OC4 with a custom rom. I will own the darn thing in June (not letting ATT get their greedy grubby hands on it, I would rather step on it to death...LOL) and trying to figure out what next. It is a great phone and still pretty fast and it is almost 2 years old!!! Amazing!
I know what you are saying about Samsung. They pretty much killed the development on their phones. Renovate is working on a rom for the 935-F and even they say they can only work in smali. I would get a Nexus, but NOT without an sdcard. I do not understand why they do not have them in there. Even a 64gb internal is really not enough for system, data, music and backup (I have a 64gb sdcard).
I HATE STOCK!!! SO BUTT UGLY... :silly::laugh:
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Hi, what phone would you suggest? I love my ATT S5, which is still on OC4 with a custom rom. I will own the darn thing in June (not letting ATT get their greedy grubby hands on it, I would rather step on it to death...LOL) and trying to figure out what next. It is a great phone and still pretty fast and it is almost 2 years old!!! Amazing!
I know what you are saying about Samsung. They pretty much killed the development on their phones. Renovate is working on a rom for the 935-F and even they say they can only work in smali. I would get a Nexus, but NOT without an sdcard. I do not understand why they do not have them in there. Even a 64gb internal is really not enough for system, data, music and backup (I have a 64gb sdcard).
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Buy an International G935F S7 Edge unlockable bootloader and factory unlocked for different carriers.
My last two devices have been international. I bought the S6 Edge Plus which I'm now selling and I bought the G935F and it's gorgeous.
"And on that bombshell!"
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s7freak said:
Buy an International G935F S7 Edge unlockable bootloader and factory unlocked for different carriers.
My last two devices have been international. I bought the S6 Edge Plus which I'm now selling and I bought the G935F and it's gorgeous.
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Yeah, I been looking at it. I need to see the custom rom development before I buy one, if I buy it. Going to save a few months of no phone pymt. Maybe later in the year the price will go down some. Also not really a fan of unpullable batteries...and who knows what will be out next.
One of the few good things about ATT is that when you have paid off your phone on the Next Plan and are on a Mobile Share Plan, they grandfather the $25 line charge discount in even if you don't buy a new phone from them. So they say...LOL. Have simm will travel? Anyway I only give my friend $40 a month being the 4th line and I will probably pay him $25 when my phone is paid off.
Have you checked out the Renovate rom? In Beta 2 now. They are supposed to start modding soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-...renovate-edge-beta-1-sm-g935f-t3339149/page34
Anyway I will hopefully get to play with "M" next month if it comes out and if @muniz_ri can do for 6.whatever as he did for 5.0 + 5.1 + 5.1.1 and keep the BL at OA1 to go back if need be. Maybe I can stomach Unrooted Stock for a bit (but I really need my Viper!). Will be interesting to see if the S5 will run better or worse...LOL
samccfl99 said:
Yeah, I been looking at it. I need to see the custom rom development before I buy one, if I buy it. Going to save a few months of no phone pymt. Maybe later in the year the price will go down some. Also not really a fan of unpullable batteries...and who knows what will be out next.
One of the few good things about ATT is that when you have paid off your phone on the Next Plan and are on a Mobile Share Plan, they grandfather the $25 line charge discount in even if you don't buy a new phone from them. So they say...LOL. Have simm will travel? Anyway I only give my friend $40 a month being the 4th line and I will probably pay him $25 when my phone is paid off.
Have you checked out the Renovate rom? In Beta 2 now. They are supposed to start modding soon.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-...renovate-edge-beta-1-sm-g935f-t3339149/page34
Anyway I will hopefully get to play with "M" next month if it comes out and if @muniz_ri can do for 6.whatever as he did for 5.0 + 5.1 + 5.1.1 and keep the BL at OA1 to go back if need be. Maybe I can stomach Unrooted Stock for a bit (but I really need my Viper!). Will be interesting to see if the S5 will run better or worse...LOL
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Yeah I flashed Renovate Rom it's a bit buggy for me right now. I'm running Echoe Rom it's flawless.
This device has a big enough battery and now with Ex Sd card it's wonderful.
Not a lot of development but with the theme store and Xposed working I'm pleased.
"And on that bombshell!"
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I would say if you want rom development then get a nexus. Pretty soon that will be people's only choice. And even then that maybe coming to an end with Google making fixes but not pushing the fixes to aosp.
As for the international version of the s7, development will be buggy as they always are with that chip set. Without proper documentation there will always be things that don't work like camera issues.
As for why no sdcard in the nexus. Well that is a two fold issue. One is people really are dumb. (average not users here... Ok well some) and have no idea between the 2 types. The second is people always wanting to move apps to the sdcard which is never a good idea. And then you have knock off sdcards that cause issues and people blame the device because they don't know any better.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/s7-s7-edge-root-t3321556/page16 Look there and you'll see it looks like root has finally been achieved. Sounds like they installed the newest TWRP and then using that flashed supersu. It does trip Knox though. I'm about to head off to work so I can't test this now but it looks promising.
Yeah source code is out for g930f & g935f but as that op says:
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For those of you with G930FD, G930T, G930W8, G930P....be patient, I'm waiting for Samsung to release the kernel sources. The trees are already ready, just waiting on kernels...
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Alarand said:
Yeah source code is out for g930f & g935f but as that op says:
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Well, I guess I shouldn't have opened this thread then. That's what I get for trying to think that early in the morning.
sweet, i have my s7 on the charger waiting for the root so i can switch over from the s6
rmyc said:
sweet, i have my s7 on the charger waiting for the root so i can switch over from the s6
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Looks like you may be charging that thing for a while, then. Seems that even the T-Mobile version is subject to the plague that is the locked bootloader for right now. Hopefully someone can figure something out or Samsung releases something along the lines of HTC's bootloader unlock for us. For once, the Snapdragon appears to be more crippled than the Exynos.
Yeah. I wouldn't count on anything any time soon. Not days, not weeks....
If you want a root able device. I would suggest taking the phone back.
Ummmmm, do you guys know what's going on with root on the US versions?
http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
Yes that's old news.
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Yes that's old news.
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Then perhaps a change in thread title is worth considering until the situation changes :good:
start a facebook group to pressure samsung to release the lock,??
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Looks like you may be charging that thing for a while, then. Seems that even the T-Mobile version is subject to the plague that is the locked bootloader for right now. Hopefully someone can figure something out or Samsung releases something along the lines of HTC's bootloader unlock for us. For once, the Snapdragon appears to be more crippled than the Exynos.
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What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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Ummmmm, no.
Galaxy S7 Bootloader Lock Explained: You Might Not Get AOSP After All | XDA Developers
ROOT DISCUSSION - R.I.P. Sticky Root Guide - SM-G935T -> STATUS -> LOCKED BOOTLOADER
Unless John Legere at TMO can sway the powers-that-be at Samsung to unlock the bootloader for the G930T/G935T (and supposedly he's trying), nobody will be rooting any time soon.
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What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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You must not get on here much. This is the biggest story lately and the reason why everyone is mad/frantic.
TMOBILE locked the bootloader John is playing us after 14 days when return period is up he will tell you guys Samsung said no its has nothing to do with Samsung it's the u.s carriers with the new leasing programs, warranty exchanges, and unauthorized tethering...They are losing money from phones which have been rooted
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I understand everyone being upset about the latest development but some need to calm down a bit. Not saying it's anyone in this thread though some comments are a bit over the top. Maybe some people are new around here or others have the memory of a goldfish but this isn't' the first time this has happened to a device. There are a multitude of ways around this. Motorola who is known for locking bootloaders with almost a hatred for consumers, was defeated with the combined effort of many people on XDA. They managed to find the key to unlock the bootloader and it was smooth sailing from there.
Will we obtain the key? Quite possibly. we'll either do it the hard way and get lucky running a program on multiple computers and phones to decrypt it. The other option is that it'll be leaked by an internal source (probably the most likely). Samsung might even give us a dev program to unlock it similar to HTC. The fact is Samsung doesn't want a large customer base to be this unhappy. We are the most influential consumer base as well. Think of all the changes and additions to Android over the past few years. Changes that started here first and were adopted by manufacturers. They use us and in a way, need us to show them what people want. Let's not forget that XDA is the most influential Android site on the net. If Samsung gets snuffed here badly it'll spread very quickly.
TL;DR It'll happen one way or another guys. Chill out. May not be in the time frame we're use to these days (remember waiting weeks to months for root back in the day?) but it will happen. focus on pressuring those who can exact change into doing so. For the ones capable of it you should focus on ways around this.
I for one am not worried. I had a Motorola Defy that had a locked bootloader. By the time I had bought the phone though it had been out for a few months and people had found a way to put custom roms on it so I was happy.
At least I know I'll be able to keep my Samsung pay around for a bit ?
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At least I know I'll be able to keep my Samsung pay around for a bit
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lol I use my bank debit card and 2 credit cards. Not a one works with Samsung Pay. But all 3 work on Google Wallet.
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lol I use my bank debit card and 2 credit cards. Not a one works with Samsung Pay. But all 3 work on Google Wallet.
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How does Samsung pay or Google wallet work? How would I know which retailer supports it?
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This thread should be completely deleted.