Hey guys,
Just wondering...is there a mod to get 1080p recording on our MT4G via interpolation??? I've noticed applications and/or updates to other Android devices that allow for 1080p recording from 720p.
Is this at all possible for our device? Could a camera.apk be developed with 1080p capabilities?
Would love to hear everyone's input..
Times like these, I wish I had the knowledge of a dev so I could help develop ideas into solutions
Hardware limitation.
No mod that I know of.
My 2cents is that I am pretty sure that trying to do that via sw would require some very serious processing and doubt it could be done wo dropping frames, at least on the device...
Realize that you would also be losing quality when doing that. even if you did it off the device with sw conversion tool.
Short answer: No
Our hardware only allows for 720p recording. Anything that tries to do 1080p will crash, like the Amaze camera mod when it's set to 1080p.
You can't get the HW to record in 1080p.
All the attempts to convert 720p to 1080p will only drop the quality of the recording.
Why would you want your phone to record with higher resolution (even if it was theoretically possible), but lower frame rate and quality? The end result is a movie that you'll be seeing, and this movie's quality isn't in its resolution. Just for bragging rights? I think you need to rethink the reasons for your request.
Jack_R1 said:
You can't get the HW to record in 1080p.
All the attempts to convert 720p to 1080p will only drop the quality of the recording.
Why would you want your phone to record with higher resolution (even if it was theoretically possible), but lower frame rate and quality? The end result is a movie that you'll be seeing, and this movie's quality isn't in its resolution. Just for bragging rights? I think you need to rethink the reasons for your request.
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Don't forget that not everyone knows as much as you know. That's why he asked. He probably had no clue the framerate would drop. Forgive the man for his ignorance, and me for assuming he is a man. He probably thought someone figured out some kind of software magic.
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estallings15 said:
Don't forget that not everyone knows as much as you know. That's why he asked. He probably had no clue the framerate would drop. Forgive the man for his ignorance, and me for assuming he is a man. He probably thought someone figured out some kind of software magic.
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Well first off, I am a man =p
Secondly, you're absolutely right about me not knowing about the framerate dropping. I was just asking out of curiosity.
I was only wondering if it was at all possible because it would be cool to record in a higher quality, obviously that's not the case with this phone.
@JACK_R1 No need to be rude with your response. As estallings said, you probably do have more knowledge and since I'm still learning.. I figured I was at least allowed to ask a question without being put down or feeling stupid.
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Would it be possible to install the mytouch 4g slide camera?
cuiltheory said:
Would it be possible to install the mytouch 4g slide camera?
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Are you saying the app? yes. theres a rom in the dev section. The actual camera HARDWARE...i'm thinkin no, but even if you did you wouldn't get 1080P due to the lack of dual core in our phone
the frames per second on the 720p is already pretty low... i cant imagine a 1080p would be good...
Nicgraner said:
Are you saying the app? yes. theres a rom in the dev section. The actual camera HARDWARE...i'm thinkin no, but even if you did you wouldn't get 1080P due to the lack of dual core in our phone
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I was thinking about the actual hardware, but I forgot that the internals are totally different.
Ahh, gotta love planned obsolescence eh?
cuiltheory said:
I was thinking about the actual hardware, but I forgot that the internals are totally different.
Ahh, gotta love planned obsolescence eh?
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720p on a phone was new tech when this phone was released. It was almost the main selling point until they changed the release name from MyTouch HD to MyTouch 4G at the last minute. All technology becomes obsolete. That's the nature of it. Would you prefer it cease advancement?
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estallings15 said:
720p on a phone was new tech when this phone was released. It was almost the main selling point until they changed the release name from MyTouch HD to MyTouch 4G at the last minute. All technology becomes obsolete. That's the nature of it. Would you prefer it cease advancement?
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No, that is not what I was implying either. Neither would I prefer advancement to slowdown accordingly to match my budget. That is why I was griping about PLANNED obsolescence. Nevermind...
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directly from an htc engineer, not some exec who doesnt really know what hes talking about.
there are two interface adapters, one for the lcd and the other for the hdmi port. the lcd uses mddi 1.1 while the rgb is used for hdmi. the mddi 1.1 operates at 30fps and no software update will fix it. changing the refresh rate is all that can be done, and this causes tearing which weve seen. sorry guys, but unless the hardware changes (it wont) were stuck at 30fps. keep in mind, however, that most movies and tv shows are shot at 24fps
hilarious considering there are two threads that bypass the fps cap on both the epson and novatec panels.
Im so sick of hearing "most movies are shot at ... fps". Most movies also have a constant frame rate that doesnt stutter or surge. Not to mention the input lag.
There are times when I am scrolling that I can literally count the frames, that is just unacceptable.
cnstarz said:
hilarious considering there are two threads that bypass the fps cap on both the epson and novatec panels.
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its been done by changing the refresh rate; like the post says its a dirty hack and theyre not sure what is causing the cap. this is whats causing the cap.
kellybrf said:
its been done by changing the refresh rate; like the post says its a dirty hack and theyre not sure what is causing the cap. this is whats causing the cap.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but this has been posted many many times... in the appropriate threads. Hardly any new information. Also, sometimes even HTC engineers don't know what the heck they are talking about.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but this has been posted many many times... in the appropriate threads. Hardly any new information. Also, sometimes even HTC engineers don't know what the heck they are talking about.
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Ok, but is the OP right? I don't feel like wading through the other multiple threads. Is the current kernel fix a true fix, or is it a hack that doesn't really get us past the 30fps barrier?
I have a novatec panel and have no tearing. I read that epsons do have tearing tho.
zeuzinn said:
Sorry to burst your bubble but this has been posted many many times... in the appropriate threads. Hardly any new information. Also, sometimes even HTC engineers don't know what the heck they are talking about.
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I have to agree here. I work for a software company in tech support and sometimes I'm clueless about a feature of the software that I have been using for over 5 years. Funny thing is not all the programmers and developers know how to even navigate through the front-end of the software. So just because they are an "engineer" at HTC, don't mean crap to me.
the panels have nothing to do with it, theyre capable of a higher fps its the mddi adapter that is holding it back
and let me rephrase the htc engineer thing...its from an evo engineer who knows all about the phone
This is a dead horse being mercilessly beaten. Some of the kernels hit 50 fps, and really that's all that's needed. It feels absolutely smooth. If it's possible to 'correctly' remove the cap, then I have every confidence in the dev community to break it.
But, creating these threads are not productive, and offer nothing that hasn't been said before. If all we're left with is a dirty hack, I'd be happy.
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Ok, but is the OP right? I don't feel like wading through the other multiple threads. Is the current kernel fix a true fix, or is it a hack that doesn't really get us past the 30fps barrier?
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Yes the fps is capped at 30 and yes the hack does work for novatec panels. Epson get tearing with the fps hack.
shep211 said:
Epson get tearing with the fps hack.
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Not for long. *evil grin*
eagle63 said:
Ok, but is the OP right? I don't feel like wading through the other multiple threads. Is the current kernel fix a true fix, or is it a hack that doesn't really get us past the 30fps barrier?
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The hack does get us past the 30fps. Before the source was released they got close to 56fps on both Novatek and Epson LCD panels. Now with a new source the most they have been able to get is 40-50fps, but now with working camera and 4G. It's only a matter of time though. And if you know HTC, they are known for saying it's a hardware limitation when it's in fact, software.
The phone has only been on sale for little over a month and look at all the amazing work that has been done. This amazing community's work rivals the speed of light, so I wouldn't worry about it.
I may be misunderstanding what a midi adapter is...but...what I am thinking of has nothing to do with video?
halorin said:
This is a dead horse being mercilessly beaten. Some of the kernels hit 50 fps, and really that's all that's needed. It feels absolutely smooth. If it's possible to 'correctly' remove the cap, then I have every confidence in the dev community to break it.
But, creating these threads are not productive, and offer nothing that hasn't been said before. If all we're left with is a dirty hack, I'd be happy.
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no, this is new information. there is no mention on this forum of mddi or rgb interfaces (i checked...edit, except that i checked the wrong thing ) obviously theyve been able to do some things, but its beating a dead horse to try and remove the cap the correct way because its a hardware limitation. anyway, i put the information out there for the developers who know about these things, not for people to debate on if its right or not. tear down your evo if you want and youll find the parts, do the research and find it to be the case
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no, this is new information. there is no mention on this forum of midi or rgb interfaces (i checked.)
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It's not. Do more searching and you will find it. Heck, I even got that same information as a reply from HTC customer service more than 20 days ago!
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no, this is new information. there is no mention on this forum of midi or rgb interfaces (i checked.) obviously theyve been able to do some things, but its beating a dead horse to try and remove the cap the correct way because its a hardware limitation. anyway, i put the information out there for the developers who know about these things, not for people to debate on if its right or not. tear down your evo if you want and youll find the parts, do the research and find it to be the case
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That has been 'known' now for about two weeks, A quick search would have revealed that this 'engineer' hasn't revealed anything that HTC hasn't claimed before
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6896671&postcount=982
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6897077&postcount=989
If it was a hardware cap it would be IMPOSSIBLE to have a software "dirty hack" bypass it.... What you are saying is IMPOSSIBLE! We have proven that it is not a hardware cap. It would be helpful since you are a EVO engineer at HTC. To hook us up with the people responsible for the coding of this fps limit. I am not flaming.
sablesurfer said:
I may be misunderstanding what a midi adapter is...but...what I am thinking of has nothing to do with video?
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wow, been a long day. mddi, which explains why midi turned up no results
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keep in mind, however, that most movies and tv shows are shot at 24fps
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The look of 24p is only considered superior because it's more film-like - which is purely a matter of conditioning on our part. We've become adjusted to an image with limited data and we somehow equate this with quality, as it's nearly analogous to the film experience which was considered greatly superior to video until recent years. (Even when the bulk of televisions default to 3:2 pulldown to display it. Ugh.)
That being said, I'd never use that excuse for a refresh rate on a monitor. I'm sorry, that argument simply doesn't carry any weight with me.
I'm more than happy with my phone and I don't play any games on it, so I'm not too upset if this news does end up being the final word - but the comparison to film and television simply isn't applicable.
Anyway, hasn't anyone ever watched sports in 720p at 60 fields per second and marveled at how smooth the action is?
what is this about 720p recording?
Is it better quality, higher resolution, sharper picture.. what? (ok i know about 720p, just asking for those who are new at this).
And if its so, wont the FPS rate go down and lagg on play back?
What is the point of increasing functions if the hardware cant even keep up with it.
Ps. Dont tell me to search other threads for this info. I dont and I am asking.
o.0 u serious? I mean 720p is better than VGA
check the vivaz specs, x10 will have the same recording capabilities as the vivaz xD that's what SE said
Why would they add it, if the hardware weren't good enough?
Why wouln't a 1GHz CPU be able to record it?
Well.. The fps when it comes to phone movies.. Will probably not be quite as good as a real camera as of yet.. Besides, you need a memory card with a high enough transfer rate. If you want a good experience with 720p that is...
class 6+. as far as I know atleast...
Well each person says something else.... some say that Class 2 is more than enough, others say you need Class 6... why don't we just wait for 2.1 that should be here in............ 3 days I think (Tuesday's my bet... no proof, just a great hope)
While 720p is going to be better than what the X10 currently has...its still only 24fps...probably not gonna be the smoothest. When I upgraded my memory card on my hd camcorder it made a world of difference, so I would have to assume that a class 2 would be fine....but class 6 would be much better.
But hey like the other guy said, lets just wait for 2.1 and see from there. Im still pissed about no 16m colors tho lol....just thought Id thow that out there.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
While 720p is going to be better than what the X10 currently has...its still only 24fps...probably not gonna be the smoothest.
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All movies on Blu-ray are 24 frames per second (because they were shot at that framerate). If you have a problem with those, then you will have a problem with X10 movies.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
While 720p is going to be better than what the X10 currently has...its still only 24fps...probably not gonna be the smoothest. When I upgraded my memory card on my hd camcorder it made a world of difference, so I would have to assume that a class 2 would be fine....but class 6 would be much better.
But hey like the other guy said, lets just wait for 2.1 and see from there. Im still pissed about no 16m colors tho lol....just thought Id thow that out there.
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It's gonna be better than VGA for sure, the byterate is very important. If is under 2Megs a class 2 card is enough, if is above change with a class 6. My bet is for under 2Megs. Don't expect blu ray quality, X10 is just a phone. Cheers
i know some of you probably think it makes no difference but big companys usually roll out updates for all different devices on the same day, my point is that the PS3 gets its 3d update ont tuesdsay so i bet 2.1 will come then.
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i know some of you probably think it makes no difference but big companys usually roll out updates for all different devices on the same day, my point is that the PS3 gets its 3d update ont tuesdsay so i bet 2.1 will come then.
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Why is that? Sony is a different company from Sony Ericsson. Why would they sync their releases? That doesn't make any sense.
Anyway, 24 fps is fine. I don't know anyone who has eyes that can see much faster....
Then again, this forum is obsessed with higher numbers than what they have for some reason... (16,000,000, 2.1, 2.2, 3.0, 10.1, ect.)
iead1 said:
Why is that? Sony is a different company from Sony Ericsson. Why would they sync their releases? That doesn't make any sense.
Anyway, 24 fps is fine. I don't know anyone who has eyes that can see much faster....
Then again, this forum is obsessed with higher numbers than what they have for some reason... (16,000,000, 2.1, 2.2, 3.0, 10.1, ect.)
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You forgot X12 and 10 fingers...
iead1 said:
Why is that? Sony is a different company from Sony Ericsson. Why would they sync their releases? That doesn't make any sense.
Anyway, 24 fps is fine. I don't know anyone who has eyes that can see much faster....
Then again, this forum is obsessed with higher numbers than what they have for some reason... (16,000,000, 2.1, 2.2, 3.0, 10.1, ect.)
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yeah and how the heck could a ps3 and the x10 be related?? en 3d is on the ps3 since 3dtv launched to the market xD
in pc game 24fps considered quite laggy, i am not sure how 24fps looks like in video
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HTC Desire HD
Don't know if many of you heard but HTC have brought out an HD version of our Desires, here are some of the specs:
Android 2.2
4.3″ capacitive touchscreen
8 MP camera with 720p HD video capture
WiFi
HSDPA
GPS
Accelerometer
4 GB internal memory expandable via microSD card slot
so who feels swizzed! lol
wonder if some of the DEVs can port some of the features, in particular what makes the 720p
Isn't that just the 4G renamed for areas where 4G networks aren't available?
live_0978 said:
wonder if some of the DEVs can port some of the features, in particular what makes the 720p
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We already have 720p!
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ruleamsterdam said:
Isn't that just the 4G renamed for areas where 4G networks aren't available?
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not excatly, it's a GSM version which is very similar to the Evo 4G but the EVO's hardware is currently incompatible with UK infrastructure.
foxmeister said:
We already have 720p!
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yea, but it doesn't quite work right does it?
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yea, but it doesn't quite work right does it?
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It works fine - apart from the relatively low framerate. I don't see how the Desire HDs firmware is going to help here, since it is likely it is linked to the radio firmware and/or the camera CCD, which will be different on the Desire HD.
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Man, this is development forum.
Do you know what development means?
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Don't know if many of you heard but HTC have brought out an HD version of our Desires, here are some of the specs:
Android 2.2
4.3″ capacitive touchscreen
8 MP camera with 720p HD video capture
WiFi
HSDPA
GPS
Accelerometer
4 GB internal memory expandable via microSD card slot
so who feels swizzed! lol
wonder if some of the DEVs can port some of the features, in particular what makes the 720p
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It's a dev forum, so no place for these stuff here, I guess.
Anyway, what do you want to port ? WiFi ? HSDPA ? GPS ? Accelerometer ? Android 2.2 ? Hold on, I'll do it for you.
4GB internal memory ? 8MPixel camera ? 4.3 screen ? That seems a bit out of these devs skills. No offence to anyone.
720p works ok in most instances, you would have to replace the lens to see big difference.
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It works fine - apart from the relatively low framerate. I don't see how the Desire HDs firmware is going to help here, since it is likely it is linked to the radio firmware and/or the camera CCD, which will be different on the Desire HD.
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I think there is a ROM out there that boasts 720p @ 30fps on our HTC Desire phones.
Pitbull_Raven said:
I think there is a ROM out there that boasts 720p @ 30fps on our HTC Desire phones.
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Yep, It's still in development, and it overheats your phone after prolonged use. :S
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I think there is a ROM out there that boasts 720p @ 30fps on our HTC Desire phones.
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Yep, It's still in development, and it overheats your phone after prolonged use. :S
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supposedly Roufianos has worked on it though you can only record for about 2 or 3 mins max and then the screen gets too hot or something. his thread got locked because he was either being too vague and wasn't giving answers.
Maybe the occasion to grab new sofware from HTC able to record 720p video with a decent framerate ?
Wait and see...
What you're asking for is impossible.
Although anything over 800*480 is overkill on our phones because of the resolution,I'd much rather have developers try and enable 720p playback without lag / stuttering / jerking. That way I could enjoy my 720p vids without having to reencode to lower frame size.
After that, I'd welcome the idea of 720p video recording.
I wonder if you will need to lug a car battery around on your back and keep it plugged in like the EVO, or will you get more than an hour of battery life...
Desire HD is closer to the EVO, then to Desire. So I guess no ports
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K900 said:
Desire HD is closer to the EVO, then to Desire. So I guess no ports
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As long as it uses a compatible/similar processor, porting should be easy enough.
The framework and apps are portable, just move them to where they should be.
For the native libraries and apps it has to have a similar cpu, and it does have one.
Of course there are some libs that are Desire/Bravo-only and have to be used in the port.
What remains is kernel hacking. (Getting bluetooth to work, camcorder, etc)
Sounds possible, as long as there is someone willing to undertake this herculean task.
720p @ 30 FPS recording is smooth at Desire HD. I manged to get it drop down to 28'ish by shaking the phone and filming into bad lighting conditions, which would force the camera to re-focus.
Looks promising.
Desire HD launch : http://yfrog.com/5zdesirehdp
Is HTCSense.com coming for our "old" Desire?
Ok, by now everyone here should have had time to play with a WP7 right? Have you noticed how responsive the WP7 screen is to touch? It's so smooth and responsive. It's almost like the screen wants to move faster than your finger...
My question is, Why isn't Android like this? And when will it be like this, if ever?
Android obviously has some lag in that department. I can't imagine it's a hardware issue being that HTC is building most of the WP7 devices.
If WP7 and iPhone can do it, why can't we?
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Ok, by now everyone here should have had time to play with a WP7 right? Have you noticed how responsive the WP7 screen is to touch? It's so smooth and responsive. It's almost like the screen wants to move faster than your finger...
My question is, Why isn't Android like this? And when will it be like this, if ever?
Android obviously has some lag in that department. I can't imagine it's a hardware issue being that HTC is building most of the WP7 devices.
If WP7 and iPhone can do it, why can't we?
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Reason: HW/GPU acceleration.
When: Maybe/Probably Honeycomb.
I agree with you, I said the same thing. Man your battle station because fanboys are going to hit you hard.
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generalExpert said:
Ok, by now everyone here should have had time to play with a WP7 right? Have you noticed how responsive the WP7 screen is to touch? It's so smooth and responsive. It's almost like the screen wants to move faster than your finger...
My question is, Why isn't Android like this? And when will it be like this, if ever?
Android obviously has some lag in that department. I can't imagine it's a hardware issue being that HTC is building most of the WP7 devices.
If WP7 and iPhone can do it, why can't we?
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Because Android's top priority isn't the perfect user experience. It's all about bringing ad money in from phone ads.
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Because Android's top priority isn't the perfect user experience. It's all about bringing ad money in from phone ads.
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Is this your opinion?...
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Reason: HW/GPU acceleration.
When: Maybe/Probably Honeycomb.
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Is this (HW/GPU Acceleration) something that can only be accomplished by google, or can the devs here do it too?
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Is this (HW/GPU Acceleration) something that can only be accomplished by google, or can the devs here do it too?
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Way to complicated for devs.
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Is this your opinion?...
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It's his opinion of course.
My opinion: Android was originally built to compete with BB OS (if you look at early photos of Android it was more BB OS like: track ball/pad dependent, crappy menu'ing system, etc.). iOS soon came out and became a success; Android was then forced to adapt to a new style. HW acceleration was probably not in their plans at first and even when it became an issue/important, they needed to adapt Android's core to compete with iOS and just be a touch friendly OS in general. Honeycomb seems to be the update that levels out the experience/Android as a more touch friendly, iOS aligned OS - HW acceleration, less HW button dependence, eliminating/minimizing the menu'ing system, etc.
Is honeycomb only for tablets? Why have I been reading on Engadget that honeycomb is only going to be for tablets?
I hope not...
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Is honeycomb only for tablets? Why have I been reading on Engadget that honeycomb is only going to be for tablets?
I hope not...
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Is honeycomb only for tablets? Why have I been reading on Engadget that honeycomb is only going to be for tablets?
I hope not...
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I don't think anyone has specifically said that Honeycomb is also for phones; I've only heard that what you see on Honeycomb is the direction that Android is heading for in the future which includes phones. So you'll probably see a lot of the features (the ones that are able to scale down to phones) like HW acceleration, UI tweaks, etc. on a future Android update. Rumor is that update is ice cream and is coming in the spring/summer.
A good sign of that is the new Sony Arc phone. There's been screen shots of it running 2.4 and one thing that stood out like crazy was the inclusion of a super wide screen display that seems to include in display software buttons for Home, back, etc. - just like in Honeycomb.
I was just wondering about this myself, here's the Issue on the AOSP project home.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
Long story short, google thinks more powerful hardware will take care of the issue for it, and improved garbage collection will increase "smoothness." If you disagree post on that thread, I did
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I was just wondering about this myself, here's the Issue on the AOSP project home.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
Long story short, google thinks more powerful hardware will take care of the issue for it, and improved garbage collection will increase "smoothness." If you disagree post on that thread, I did
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Its an incredibly stupid solution and will lead to more cpu usage for something that a weak gpu like the evo's could take care of at a lower cost.
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bitter much? do you post anything that isn't condescending or polarizing?
Award Tour said:
Its an incredibly stupid solution and will lead to more cpu usage for something that a weak gpu like the evo's could take care of at a lower cost.
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I think user is really important. I man my battleship daily and sometimes my finger misses. How does hdmi interact with user? I always have to wonder if it's due to touch or hdmi. My exp are better in cm7 than cm 6 but in video like utube I really see no difference if it is a question of quality. I think attention goes both to sound and video in usual use. So does it effect games?
If HDMI should be faster, it should be for its own reason. So, we will see it in games, in tv, and others (as we do).
Look at the the flip camera. Enlarge and you can see it should be built into the cm too.
You cannot see it with the naked eye in games. I say this because I have a very good eye. When you enlarge, you can see. But for games, they do not scale this way for seeing. Once we try to enjoy on a real scale the problem becomes apparent. I don't know the cause, it could be kernel; it could be hdmi. But with pictures and video hdmi is new standard. Old tvs might have been fine (better?) with out it but they changed it all now so we need hdmi for video and photo.
Evo is very small but for projection it is essential to top quality mobile presentation. It should be offloaded to the peripheral tho is that possible? There is no use in such fine detail in so small screen.
psych2l said:
I was just wondering about this myself, here's the Issue on the AOSP project home.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6914
Long story short, google thinks more powerful hardware will take care of the issue for it, and improved garbage collection will increase "smoothness." If you disagree post on that thread, I did
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Well googles first post ( I didn't read all of it) says they cant implement it because older phones don't support it.... (g1)
Aha its funny to see everyone jump on google for how crappy it is not using gpu acceleration.
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Ok, by now everyone here should have had time to play with a WP7 right? Have you noticed how responsive the WP7 screen is to touch? It's so smooth and responsive. It's almost like the screen wants to move faster than your finger...
My question is, Why isn't Android like this? And when will it be like this, if ever?
Android obviously has some lag in that department. I can't imagine it's a hardware issue being that HTC is building most of the WP7 devices.
If WP7 and iPhone can do it, why can't we?
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Too complicated for developers to tackle, but I agree 100%. Don't get me wrong, I would never use either of those platforms due to how much I love being on rooted android. But it is so much smoother, and I hope Gingerbread combats this.
Maybe People aren't addressing this because there's nothing that can be done about it because it's part of the hardware or they don't wanna point out how bad this mistake was by Samsung with their lack off attention to the video/audio quality.
Every video so far has been absolutely atrociousness when it comes to sound quality in a video. Almost make me want to wait for the next device on tmobile.. it's the reason i couldn't stand HTC phone and now samsung farts out a turd like this.
Not crying about it ( i truly want to) lol but I would like to know if it's possible for it to be fixed.. anyone else irked by this?
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Maybe People aren't addressing this because there's nothing that can be done about it because it's part of the hardware or they don't wanna point out how bad this mistake was by Samsung with their lack off attention to the video/audio quality.
Every video so far has been absolutely atrociousness when it comes to sound quality in a video. Almost make me want to wait for the next device on tmobile.. it's the reason i couldn't stand HTC phone and now samsung farts out a turd like this.
Not crying about it ( i truly want to) lol but I would like to know if it's possible for it to be fixed.. anyone else irked by this?
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There's already a thread on this issue. Search and you will find.
For me, I'm not adressing this issue because I don't care. "Don't wanna point out..." What? OK, pointed out - still don't care
B3311 said:
There's already a thread on this issue. Search and you will find.
For me, I'm not adressing this issue because I don't care. "Don't wanna point out..." What? OK, pointed out - still don't care
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Amazing how you'd reply with that lol smh
stepinmyworld said:
Maybe People aren't addressing this because there's nothing that can be done about it because it's part of the hardware or they don't wanna point out how bad this mistake was by Samsung with their lack off attention to the video/audio quality.
Every video so far has been absolutely atrociousness when it comes to sound quality in a video. Almost make me want to wait for the next device on tmobile.. it's the reason i couldn't stand HTC phone and now samsung farts out a turd like this.
Not crying about it ( i truly want to) lol but I would like to know if it's possible for it to be fixed.. anyone else irked by this?
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Maybe people aren't addressing this issue because, honestly, no one else cares
It's hardly an important issue for the majority of users.
What's the in-call quality like anyway? If the person on the other end can hear you nice and clear then there's no reason the video can't record decent audio too.
stepinmyworld said:
Amazing how you'd reply with that lol smh
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I have no idea what you mean.
Meltus said:
Maybe people aren't addressing this issue because, honestly, no one else cares
It's hardly an important issue for the majority of users.
What's the in-call quality like anyway? If the person on the other end can hear you nice and clear then there's no reason the video can't record decent audio too.
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That's a possibility @ them not caring but how about the consumers who do? We're all paying the same price.. i guess it's a take it or leave it kinna thing. And recording voice and recording video audio is different (I'm almost sure im not mistaken)
Meltus said:
Maybe people aren't addressing this issue because, honestly, no one else cares
It's hardly an important issue for the majority of users.
What's the in-call quality like anyway? If the person on the other end can hear you nice and clear then there's no reason the video can't record decent audio too.
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Well I care.. that is why I use my Sgs instead of Sgs ii. Hopefully voodoo will work on us version of Sgs iii or I will return it.
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And recording voice and recording video audio is different (I'm almost sure im not mistaken)
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Can't see why they would be different, they both use the same microphone do they not? It's just the method of recording that may differ. That is something that could most probably be modified though.
lgkahn said:
Well I care.. that is why I use my Sgs instead of Sgs ii. Hopefully voodoo will work on us version of Sgs iii or I will return it.
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I believe both the international and the US version both use the same audio chip (I could be wrong) so it should indeed be voodoo compatible.
Some folks are saying the poor video audio is due to the noise cancellation microphone being engaged during a non-phone call situation when it should not be. Any truth to this ? The One X also shares this same fault -
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Some folks are saying the poor video audio is due to the noise cancellation microphone being engaged during a non-phone call situation when it should not be. Any truth to this ? The One X also shares this same fault -
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so strange because the Evo LTE has very good video audio recording quality.. the video is shaky but the audio that comes from it is far better than the S3.. i wish someone could possible deactivate the noise cancellation feature and then record to see if that helps.