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Speakerphone?

mine sounds like ****
I literally have to lower the volume for it to sound descent
now this realy pisses me off, its a $580 dollar device and the speakerphone sucks
whats weird is that it only sucks on speakerphone, because it rings and plays music fine. its only the speakerphone
can anyone test theirs and lmk how it sounds?

Yes, the speaker phone is horrible. When listening music is barely okay, but when on phone call with it...it's a nightmare!

Carnt they fix it with a software update?

Mine sounds ok depending on the person on the other end, my parents landline sounded fine but my friends cell sounded pretty distorted.

Yeah the speaker phone is pretty shocking...I was surprised. How do these things get past the product testing phase!!

firerock said:
Yes, the speaker phone is horrible. When listening music is barely okay, but when on phone call with it...it's a nightmare!
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i agree. for music its ok, for phone call its junk.

mwitha said:
Yeah the speaker phone is pretty shocking...I was surprised. How do these things get past the product testing phase!!
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i dont think there was a testing phase for N1. Us buying the phones for $530+ is the testing phase.

so can we contact HTC and complain?
I really need the speakerphone and quite frankly am embarassed to use it. someguy started laughing at me when he heard it lol

Z51 said:
so can we contact HTC and complain?
I really need the speakerphone and quite frankly am embarassed to use it. someguy started laughing at me when he heard it lol
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call and complain.....i doubt it will help. but if you have time, i would still call.

Speakerphone sounds bad. Distorted at max volume and as you turn it down it becomes too quite to be useful during driving.

thats what im saying, you guys think an update will fix it?

Z51 said:
thats what im saying, you guys think an update will fix it?
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the HTC HD2 had the exact same problem horrible speakerphone..
this is why I am going to go with the xperia x10 its all about build quality something I cam to expect from Sony E unlike my experience with HD2 crap camera crap speaker phone and now the Nexus one is plagued with problems....
lucky I come on here and read the problems I was O so close to buying one !

I have a few htc phones and listened to a few more, they all sound bad.
To me it's typical and expected.
If you priorities are speaker and music without BT or headphones HTC isn't the way to go.

the g1 I had sounds good,just not this piece of ****

What should we expect from Samsung regarding firmware updates?

There are some issues with the Focus I don't think has to do with WP7. First being when you plug in headphones or speakers to the jack after removing them you have to soft reset in order to play music, videos from phone speaker. Another is the camera settings don't stay saved.
My question is; is Samsung good about Firmware updates to fix these types of issues?

Camera settings resetting is a WP7 thing by design.
Not sure about the headphone thing, though.

mcorrie1121 said:
Camera settings resetting is a WP7 thing by design.
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Is this for real? I so, what kind of dummy came up with that idea?

When I complained about the inability to keep the screen on (which annoys me to no end) I was told buy Samsung that it was a confirmed issue and was being worked on "as we speak" This was about a month ago. I really hope this is part of a firmware update soon.

Well, given how bad they've been about getting updates out for Android, I would not expect much out of Samsung specifically. Hopefully, I'm wrong for being cynical.

Samsung has always been really bad for getting firmware updates out for its phones in time.
Luckily, for WP7, Microsoft will take over the duty of getting firmware/OS updates out, not Samsung. So, if it is an OS issue, you're looking for Microsoft for updates, not Samsung.

mcorrie1121 said:
Camera settings resetting is a WP7 thing by design.
Not sure about the headphone thing, though.
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Fuzzy John said:
Is this for real? I so, what kind of dummy came up with that idea?
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LOL...I've thought the same thing. It's a bug. Why? Because every other camera phone on the planet saves the settings you choose. Some of them even offer a quick change profile setup. So it's a bug. And it's never going to be fixed when people say it's "by design". Like all the rest of the bugs and shortcomings in this phone. If people are happy with what they have now, great, get out of the way. I didn't drop $500 to buy a low end Nokia with a large screen.

I believe the list of changes for the next update includes saving the camera settings. Agree with above: very bad design.

I have a Samsung Intrepid that after I did a firmware upgrade right from Sprint, the phone basically went in the trash. Everything was messed up after. I'm getting my fingers crossed it does not happen with this phone!
And there WAS NO way of going back either, thanks to Sprint or Samsung.

Seed 2.0 said:
First being when you plug in headphones or speakers to the jack after removing them you have to soft reset in order to play music, videos from phone speaker.
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That problem must be specific to your own phone. I can't reproduce it.

I have the Samsung Captivate also, and between Samsung and ATT we still don't have an official 2.2 update.
Not sure who's fault it is but they are both jack holes if you ask me. I wouldn't count on MS for rapid updates either until they start to deliver them.
Balmer said they want rapid updates to bring the platform up to pace. I hope he doesn't mean 2 updates a year as "rapid".
We will see.

Seed 2.0 said:
There are some issues with the Focus I don't think has to do with WP7. First being when you plug in headphones or speakers to the jack after removing them you have to soft reset in order to play music, videos from phone speaker. Another is the camera settings don't stay saved.
My question is; is Samsung good about Firmware updates to fix these types of issues?
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I can't reproduce it either...
but, one time, I was playing a game and i turned off the sound. When i try to play music after that, no sound come out neither headphone jack or speaker...
I had to do a soft reset...
I wasn't able to replicate issue... and i'm happy for that...

zxcv888 said:
I can't reproduce it either...
but, one time, I was playing a game and i turned off the sound. When i try to play music after that, no sound come out neither headphone jack or speaker...
I had to do a soft reset...
I wasn't able to replicate issue... and i'm happy for that...
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Was the game CrackDown2? It does that to mine. Does removing headphones turn your mic off when trying to voice search? It will work if you plug the samsung headphones back in and talk through them but not from the handset mic. This is a know issue for many to maybe all Focus owners.

Seed 2.0 said:
Was the game CrackDown2? It does that to mine. Does removing headphones turn your mic off when trying to voice search? It will work if you plug the samsung headphones back in and talk through them but not from the handset mic. This is a know issue for many to maybe all Focus owners.
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I cant replicate the problem with crackdown2 but I experience some similar issue with other games and apps, very rarely however

GrayWolf said:
That problem must be specific to your own phone. I can't reproduce it.
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It happens to me from time to time as well, so it's not just specific to OP.

markgamber said:
LOL...I've thought the same thing. It's a bug. Why? Because every other camera phone on the planet saves the settings you choose. Some of them even offer a quick change profile setup. So it's a bug. And it's never going to be fixed when people say it's "by design". Like all the rest of the bugs and shortcomings in this phone. If people are happy with what they have now, great, get out of the way. I didn't drop $500 to buy a low end Nokia with a large screen.
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You could say it's bad design, and should be fixed.
But it's not a bug.
I would expect someone who posts on XDA to know the difference.

Reflexx1 said:
You could say it's bad design, and should be fixed.
But it's not a bug.
I would expect someone who posts on XDA to know the difference.
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NO! The sky is BLUE! Not aqua, not turquoise, BLUE! What, do you write "answers" on Microsoft's so-called official forums or something where everything is "by design"? "Yes, the battery will occasionally overheat and could possibly burst into flame. This is by design and lets the user know he or she may be nearing the end of his or her allotted call time for that month."
It's a damn bug.

markgamber said:
NO! The sky is BLUE! Not aqua, not turquoise, BLUE! What, do you write "answers" on Microsoft's so-called official forums or something where everything is "by design"? "Yes, the battery will occasionally overheat and could possibly burst into flame. This is by design and lets the user know he or she may be nearing the end of his or her allotted call time for that month."
It's a damn bug.
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No. It's a design flaw. A bug would assume that the camera settings were designed to save and somehow are not. The fact that they say it's not a bug makes it a design flaw.
YAY SEMANTICS!

FishFaceMcGee said:
No. It's a design flaw. A bug would assume that the camera settings were designed to save and somehow are not. The fact that they say it's not a bug makes it a design flaw.
YAY SEMANTICS!
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What if when savings it writes to the registry at "CameraSettings" and when reading it reads from "CameraSetings"? Is it still a flaw?
Truth is that is does not do what just everybody expects it to do. Most people would call that a bug no matter how techies would split it. So let's go with the majority and call it what it is.

Horrid noise cancellation

I have tried to look for some threads regarding noise cancellation but the only ones i found were recommendations and questions about it.
I am sorry but I feel the urge to open this thread and at the same time surprised by the fact this thread has not been created before.
I constantly get people claiming they can hear background noises almost at the same level as they can hear my voice. It seems like every time I walk down the street, any background noises (bus, cars, people shouting, music, etc) are being passed onto the other person's line. It also holds for when I am at home with friends and someone calls me, the person on the other line claims he can hear practically every word my friends are talking about as if he is on speaker phone.
Also, connecting my Nexus S to my bluetooth speaker in my car is almost not possible as people claim they hear me as if i'm in a 'space shuttle'. I can confirm that its not the bluetooth speaker as I used to have a Blackberry and never had any issues.
Anyone experiences it as well? knows about someone developing a solution for it? or is it just me hallucinating here

This is a widely known problem and unfortunately there seems to be no fix in sight. Samsung does not use a secondary noise cancelling microphone like in the Nexus 1 and their software noise cancellation is simply garbage. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the brilliant devs can figure out a way to improve the noise cancellation with some kernel magic.

generalagony said:
This is a widely known problem and unfortunately there seems to be no fix in sight. Samsung does not use a secondary noise cancelling microphone like in the Nexus 1 and their software noise cancellation is simply garbage. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the brilliant devs can figure out a way to improve the noise cancellation with some kernel magic.
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"their software" .... you mean Google's software? Samsung doesn't touch the firmware whatsoever. They just provide the hardware in coalition with Google.

Simple solution (albeit it costs money). Get a noise cancelling bluetooth device. I have a blueant t1 and I never get background noise complaints. People don't even realize I'm riding on the highway. I wouldn't put too much hope it the devs doing a whole lot with noise cancellation because there's only so much software can do, since the phone lacks the hardware for true noise cancellation.

This has been posted a few times when the phone first released. There's no fix unfortunately, and a deal breaker for some. In noisy places the call quality seems to suffer from the software noise cancel function.

What noise cancellation? Yea, its quite a change from the Nexus One. People hear EVERYTHING that goes on in the background.

You can do a lot of noise cancellation with software only. There are numerous examples of excellent software solutions for noise cancellations.

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You can do a lot of noise cancellation with software only. There are numerous examples of excellent software solutions for noise cancellations.
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For the Nexus S? can you give an example?

zephiK said:
"their software" .... you mean Google's software? Samsung doesn't touch the firmware whatsoever. They just provide the hardware in coalition with Google.
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Ouch. Pwnd. Everyone knew what I meant
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co0kie said:
For the Nexus S? can you give an example?
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Not for the Nexus S, but other companies have had successful software noise cancellation - for example Motorola CrystalTalk. As for noise on the Nexus S, I've asked friends and my wife when calling from stores, parking lots, in the car with tunes playing, etc., and they all say background noise is virtually non-existant. And I sound just fine as well. I've noticed that people can hear the music in the car when I'm not talking, but as soon as I start to talk the music is silenced. Calls to my own voicemail line confirms this.
Perhaps it has something to do with firmware versions? I have stock 2.3.3 pre-installed, no root.

it may be possible to noisegate out sounds below a certain level which depends on the mean amplitude level of a range of frequencies common to the voice. in otherwords, calculating the average amplitude the voice is, and removing anything significantly below that amplitude.
however without a second out-of-phase microphone, results wouldn't be all that great and would be processor intensive.
interesting project i may look at some time in the future.

bfksc said:
Not for the Nexus S, but other companies have had successful software noise cancellation - for example Motorola CrystalTalk. As for noise on the Nexus S, I've asked friends and my wife when calling from stores, parking lots, in the car with tunes playing, etc., and they all say background noise is virtually non-existant. And I sound just fine as well. I've noticed that people can hear the music in the car when I'm not talking, but as soon as I start to talk the music is silenced. Calls to my own voicemail line confirms this.
Perhaps it has something to do with firmware versions? I have stock 2.3.3 pre-installed, no root.
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I'm not sure weather CrystalTalk stands for a specific feature on Motorola's ROMs but if its a software, on Android, couldn't it be ported to other ROMs?
btw, I'm running NScollab 1.0.17 but always experienced such issues, even when I was on stock 2.3.3 pre-root.

I was not looking for Nexus S. Simply trying to prove a point that software noise cancellation is doable and working great. BTW, the developers of such software can easily port it to different platforms since it does not rely on specific hardware.

Help installing Voodoo Control Plus

I really want to install Voodoo Control Plus however I'm a total tech novice and haven't got a clue on how to get it to install and work. Anyone kind enough out there to give me the quickest most simplest (and least dangerous) method of being able to setup the app? My main emphasis is going to be on changing as little as possible. I would love to play around with root access and custom roms and stuff but in my own time and once I've became a bit more experienced with android phones and the community.

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I really want to install Voodoo Control Plus however I'm a total tech novice and haven't got a clue on how to get it to install and work. Anyone kind enough out there to give me the quickest most simplest (and least dangerous) method of being able to setup the app? My main emphasis is going to be on changing as little as possible. I would love to play around with root access and custom roms and stuff but in my own time and once I've became a bit more experienced with android phones and the community.
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I dont think that voodoo control plus supports sgs ii
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Dang that sucks.. well I hope there will be support for it in the future.

FlashXIII said:
Dang that sucks.. well I hope there will be support for it in the future.
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http://project-voodoo.org/
jje

JJEgan said:
http://project-voodoo.org/
jje
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there is support for i9000.as far as I read supercurio not going to support s2 with voodoo
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afilopou said:
there is support for i9000.as far as I read supercurio not going to support s2 with voodoo
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really and why is that?

sewe said:
really and why is that?
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Time i would guess .
jje

JJEgan said:
Time i would guess .
jje
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ok make sense in a way, but too bad if it is really true.

JJEgan said:
Time i would guess .
jje
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Not time, but unfortunately not much room for improvement.

sewe said:
really and why is that?
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hardware limitations. supercurio was essentially able to develop voodoo for wolfson dac based devices as the defects back then were software based and were solved by rewriting some of the buggy code.
The yamaha dac used in SGSII meanwhile has some critical hardware flaws that can only be resolved at the production/design level by the manufacturer. As an independent user just like the rest of us, all supercurio can do now is to feedback his findings to yamaha and hope they resolve the issues in future batches of their dac...
That's basically what I gather from supercurio's twitter posts and his reasoning for not pursing voodoo sound on the SGSII.

I wonder though if the color banding seen on the sgs2 is also caused by the sharpness filters mentioned in the voodoo project.

I sold the S2 and went back to the original Galaxy S with voodoo sound mod.
The difference is day and night ...... and the Galaxy S has far far more volume for driving headphones.
I did prefer the S2 screen and camera, but the sound was just truly horrible. With no prospect of a sound fix on the Yamaha card and no word of a volume boost there was no point going on with the S2.
Sadly, if playing music is a priority then the S2 is not for you!
Keith

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I sold the S2 and went back to the original Galaxy S with voodoo sound mod.
The difference is day and night ...... and the Galaxy S has far far more volume for driving headphones.
I did prefer the S2 screen and camera, but the sound was just truly horrible. With no prospect of a sound fix on the Yamaha card and no word of a volume boost there was no point going on with the S2.
Sadly, if playing music is a priority then the S2 is not for you!
Keith
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Volume+ boosts the volume fine on my SGS2....

All volume+ does is rack up all the frequencies on the system EQ and it sounds terrible.
Enable Volume+ then look at the curve it sets with the equalizer app. It's not a volume boost as such rather an EQ boost that makes the distortion worse!
Keith

FWIW I don't find the sound that bad on the SGS2 using Classic Equaliser and Normal sound effect... yes it could be a touch louder, but it compared OK with my Sony NWZ-S639 walkman which was highly regarded for its sound quality a couple of years back, I also had an iphone 4 beforehand.
I'm not saying the SGS2 is perfect for audio playback, far from it, but it is COMPLETELY blown out of proportion on here.

Bit of a noob question here but I'm finding it difficult to find clear info on this.
I've just switched from an iPhone 3G to the SGS2 and the volume on the SGS2 (with every band maxed in the equaliser) is only about 2/3 of what my iPhone maxed was outputting (nothing too scientific - I just listened to the same track on my SGS2 as my iPhone with the SGS2 headphones).
From reading this I get the impression that this is the highest volume I'll ever be able to get from the SGS2 because the audio hardware is kinda lousy - is that right? Or is there any other way I can boost the output?

Sometimes i think I'm crazy; I'm using the S2 with the lowest possible volume output with my custom molded earphones (almost no resistance) but even with high resistance headphones (eg. a 300ohm beyer dynamic) it's still more then loud enough for me. What bothers me though it that the dac chip is just crap soundwise, low on stereo seperation and an enormous boost for midrange tones; as if the headphone output is meant to be used as a headset for crips and loud talks.
My desire hd had a better sound output (which was still louzy).

can any one shed some light on service mode *#197328640# i read somewhere online but could not find any difference....
[5]audio > [3]WB > ....headset...

This depends on the headphones I can't go Anywhere near half on the sgs its just too loud. If your using high resistance headphones get an amp ?
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If supercurious has not time working on a SGS2 version he should give the source codes to sgs2 devs over here!
This is a community after all and the sgs2 screen is more modable than sgs1 because we already have ''background effects'' that we can change
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135247

[Q] 1080p Camera

Hey guys,
Just wondering...is there a mod to get 1080p recording on our MT4G via interpolation??? I've noticed applications and/or updates to other Android devices that allow for 1080p recording from 720p.
Is this at all possible for our device? Could a camera.apk be developed with 1080p capabilities?
Would love to hear everyone's input..
Times like these, I wish I had the knowledge of a dev so I could help develop ideas into solutions

Hardware limitation.
No mod that I know of.
My 2cents is that I am pretty sure that trying to do that via sw would require some very serious processing and doubt it could be done wo dropping frames, at least on the device...
Realize that you would also be losing quality when doing that. even if you did it off the device with sw conversion tool.

Short answer: No
Our hardware only allows for 720p recording. Anything that tries to do 1080p will crash, like the Amaze camera mod when it's set to 1080p.

You can't get the HW to record in 1080p.
All the attempts to convert 720p to 1080p will only drop the quality of the recording.
Why would you want your phone to record with higher resolution (even if it was theoretically possible), but lower frame rate and quality? The end result is a movie that you'll be seeing, and this movie's quality isn't in its resolution. Just for bragging rights? I think you need to rethink the reasons for your request.

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You can't get the HW to record in 1080p.
All the attempts to convert 720p to 1080p will only drop the quality of the recording.
Why would you want your phone to record with higher resolution (even if it was theoretically possible), but lower frame rate and quality? The end result is a movie that you'll be seeing, and this movie's quality isn't in its resolution. Just for bragging rights? I think you need to rethink the reasons for your request.
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Don't forget that not everyone knows as much as you know. That's why he asked. He probably had no clue the framerate would drop. Forgive the man for his ignorance, and me for assuming he is a man. He probably thought someone figured out some kind of software magic.
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Don't forget that not everyone knows as much as you know. That's why he asked. He probably had no clue the framerate would drop. Forgive the man for his ignorance, and me for assuming he is a man. He probably thought someone figured out some kind of software magic.
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Well first off, I am a man =p
Secondly, you're absolutely right about me not knowing about the framerate dropping. I was just asking out of curiosity.
I was only wondering if it was at all possible because it would be cool to record in a higher quality, obviously that's not the case with this phone.
@JACK_R1 No need to be rude with your response. As estallings said, you probably do have more knowledge and since I'm still learning.. I figured I was at least allowed to ask a question without being put down or feeling stupid.
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Would it be possible to install the mytouch 4g slide camera?

cuiltheory said:
Would it be possible to install the mytouch 4g slide camera?
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Are you saying the app? yes. theres a rom in the dev section. The actual camera HARDWARE...i'm thinkin no, but even if you did you wouldn't get 1080P due to the lack of dual core in our phone

the frames per second on the 720p is already pretty low... i cant imagine a 1080p would be good...

Nicgraner said:
Are you saying the app? yes. theres a rom in the dev section. The actual camera HARDWARE...i'm thinkin no, but even if you did you wouldn't get 1080P due to the lack of dual core in our phone
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I was thinking about the actual hardware, but I forgot that the internals are totally different.
Ahh, gotta love planned obsolescence eh?

cuiltheory said:
I was thinking about the actual hardware, but I forgot that the internals are totally different.
Ahh, gotta love planned obsolescence eh?
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720p on a phone was new tech when this phone was released. It was almost the main selling point until they changed the release name from MyTouch HD to MyTouch 4G at the last minute. All technology becomes obsolete. That's the nature of it. Would you prefer it cease advancement?
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estallings15 said:
720p on a phone was new tech when this phone was released. It was almost the main selling point until they changed the release name from MyTouch HD to MyTouch 4G at the last minute. All technology becomes obsolete. That's the nature of it. Would you prefer it cease advancement?
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No, that is not what I was implying either. Neither would I prefer advancement to slowdown accordingly to match my budget. That is why I was griping about PLANNED obsolescence. Nevermind...