I am about to use the KFU to root and wanted to know which option I should choose. Temporary root or permanent root. what is the difference?
babbabooey97 said:
I am about to use the KFU to root and wanted to know which option I should choose. Temporary root or permanent root. what is the difference?
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Temp root gives you all the benefits of rooting until you power off the system (I believe.) If you are not sure if you want to root, temp rooting is a good way to check out what it's like to be rooted.
Permanent rooting is exactly what it says. It roots the Fire and will stay that way until you decide to unroot it, or if Amazon pushes another update that breaks root.
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Will there be a rooted ota for people who didn't install it or never got it. I rooted my phone and would like the better radio in hopes I will get more cell bars
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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Sv3nt3k said:
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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i dont understand what u mean i have perm root without the ota. If i install the ota it will break root. Will i have to go thru the whole process again if i do this? I know on the mytouchslide when they came out with an ota they just rooted it so it wouldnt break the current root
i havent tried perm root yet. however search this site for 'visionary' root, which is all u really need for now. i had visionary root installed along with several root only apps (titanium backup, cachemate, setcpu, several others) and the OTA installed while my phone was rooted with absolutely no problems.
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
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the "#" denotes root access lol...... (coming from a marginal linux background..)
richierich118 said:
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
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Have you tried reapplying s-off?
I am also interested in getting a solution because right before I rooted my phone I started getting ota update notifications for my phone and now I cant upgrade my phone but the notifications continue to persist. So I figure if I can get a rooted update or delete something, I can get rid of notifications.
ok i got it working what i did was do what somesaid in the begining and that was to follow the guide that doesnt use visionary for perm root. I think its call temp to perm root. I always had the s-off just not the perm root. everything is fine now
At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
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At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
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I didnt use clockworks recover i used the orginal. It just made me loose root and not s-off so i used the temp-too-perm root to get it back because visionary was saying my phone was already rooted. I believe I was getting this cause i had rooted without the ota the first time. The second time i used the ota.ko Instead of the preota.ko because i used this when i didnt update to the ota on the first run.
Oh, okay. Thanks for that. I'm currently in the same boat you were in. I applied the OTA and it's reporting S-OFF, Visionary is saying I'm rooted, but certain things aren't working.
In the process of getting it fixed.
EDIT: Went through the same process you did and I'm all good to go. I was able to apply the OTA update after rooting it and then re-rooted it.
so how exactly did you root you perma root your phone again after ota.
i have perma root right now, its pre-ota, i do want to install ota though.. would i have to go back and do the manual perma-root with the "ota" files now instead of the other ones. im just confused and want to clear this up before i do anything stupid. thanks!
Is it as simple as clicking "perm root" like it was with Universal Androot? Do I need to temp root first?
If I want root access but don't need S-OFF at this point, will this program be enough? For now I just want to remap the genius button, maybe remove some bloatware, and eventually install a recovery so I can flash CM6 when it's ready.
Sorry for the newb quesitons, just don't want to brick my brand new device.
Temproot
You can do this with Temproot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9174060&postcount=36
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What he said. And, as far as I know, there is no reason to have S=ON and full root access. You really couldn't do anything in that state that you wouldn't be able to do with temp root access, which allows for cached system changes.
Quick question -
z4root on the Galaxy Tab shows a Temporary Root and Permanent.
As I understand Temporary will be unrooted after a reboot.
Also it seems z4root will unroot a Permanent root.
So its the best to select anyhow, why have both?
Yes you can unroot a "permanent" root, i think the temporary is just for testing purposes.
OK I don't know this but when I temp root with visionary once and I automatically get a super user icon if it worked now when I did that and set the setting turn fastboot off and the usb thing once I did all that and now I can use any application that has root access on it now when I boot my phone and go to use my root apps it says super user granted and I can still use the root Apps and I don't even have to reroot my phone again so now I'm asking do i have root all the time now cuz I don't have to use visionary again to temp root or permanent root do any one have the same thing.
How much does it cost to use punctuation?
I've tried to decipher what you have asked.
I believe you wonder how a temporary root could be acting as if it were permanent. If that is what you wanted to know, the VISIONary application has a setting for "temp root on boot" -- this will give you temporary root every time you boot the phone. If you disable that setting, and reboot, you will not have root access.
Root access alone is not enough to install custom ROMs, but it is enough to use a number of applications that require root access.
Yea sorry not good in explaining things. okay i see now, I'm still new at this but thank you. for clearing that up for me.
Hey everyone,
Back when it first came out, I did the Visionary temp root. The only thing I did was disable a bunch of the packages that can't be uninstalled like Facebook and such.
I read the thread about doing permanent root with Visionary causing bricks. I'd like to get clarification as to whether or not my phone is potentially at risk.
I verified that I only did temporary root, as opening a terminal and typing 'su' just yields permission denied.
Thanks in advance!
Just did the manual update and everything is fine for what it's worth
I would love to know if you have any luck with Temp Root now that you have the OTA. I don't want to install the OTA until I know VISIONary can give me Temp Root so I can tether...
temp root with visionary doesnt brick your device so dont worry, its perm root that bricks it
But does it still work? I have Visionary r10 and I don't want to accept the OTA until I know I can still tether... (but of course, I can deal with getting a newer Visionary if it's confirmed to still work with the OTA)
r14 I haven't had luck with