OK I don't know this but when I temp root with visionary once and I automatically get a super user icon if it worked now when I did that and set the setting turn fastboot off and the usb thing once I did all that and now I can use any application that has root access on it now when I boot my phone and go to use my root apps it says super user granted and I can still use the root Apps and I don't even have to reroot my phone again so now I'm asking do i have root all the time now cuz I don't have to use visionary again to temp root or permanent root do any one have the same thing.
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I've tried to decipher what you have asked.
I believe you wonder how a temporary root could be acting as if it were permanent. If that is what you wanted to know, the VISIONary application has a setting for "temp root on boot" -- this will give you temporary root every time you boot the phone. If you disable that setting, and reboot, you will not have root access.
Root access alone is not enough to install custom ROMs, but it is enough to use a number of applications that require root access.
Yea sorry not good in explaining things. okay i see now, I'm still new at this but thank you. for clearing that up for me.
I was able to get my phone to s-off permanently but its not rooted so I assume its partially rooted. When I try to us Rom Manager to install ClockworkMod it tells me the phone is not rooted. Do I have to push the root using ADB? Also to explain I used VISIONary+ version 14 with Astro to root the phone if that helps any. Now, when I try to perm root the phone with VISIONary+ it tells me I have to temp root and when I do that again it just stays in a loop, and doesn't really root it. I was able to get SU privileges in the beginning but not anymore.
I googled this issue but to much information was thrown out there so I do apologize for asking what may be a repeating question
I have the same issue.. I finally got s-off to stick and now i cant perm root plus i am not familiar using adb
Yeah I haven't bothered with pushing perm root with adb only because I want to make sure that this is common. Adb is actually really easy to use. As long as you follow and type the code exactly then all will be great.
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I used visionary to temp root/root. followed all the instructions in visionary and terminal emulator. when I restarted the phone it showed S off, I went to visionary to perm root and it say's I have to temp root my phone?? I rooted my other mytouch 4g the same way and it worked so I don't know what's wrong Im pretty sure i'm not doing anything wrong
Once you get s off and boot up you don't have su permissions so you need to temproot and then permroot immediately after to complete the root process
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I got S off, rebooted in the mode, did everything in terminal emulator and when i went to visionary to perm root it said i had to temp root my device first, when i try to temp root with visionary the program keeps flashing for a few minutes, then nothing... anything I can do with the S being off already? The "super user" program is in my programs already also... can't figure it out
King350z said:
I got S off, rebooted in the mode, did everything in terminal emulator and when i went to visionary to perm root it said i had to temp root my device first, when i try to temp root with visionary the program keeps flashing for a few minutes, then nothing... anything I can do with the S being off already? The "super user" program is in my programs already also... can't figure it out
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When you try to use root access is it not allowing it? Open up something like root explorer that asks for root access and see if it works. If it does then it sounds like it worked.
No it's not even though I have S off and did all the commands in terminal, I tried using Rom Manager, Titanium etc.. other root programs it says I need to root my phone first...
King350z said:
No it's not even though I have S off and did all the commands in terminal, I tried using Rom Manager, Titanium etc.. other root programs it says I need to root my phone first...
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Do you have the SuperUser icon?
bootloader? Here's the root guide
What bootloader do you have?
0.86.0000 seems to make some rooting methods difficult if not completely ineffective.
Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-995549.html
It was seamless for me.
**I am not responsible for any consequences of you playing with your phone.**
thepza said:
What bootloader do you have?
0.86.0000 seems to make some rooting methods difficult if not completely ineffective.
Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-995549.html
It was seamless for me.
**I am not responsible for any consequences of you playing with your phone.**
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All phones come with the .86.xxxx bootloader, you cannot load the .85.xxxx bootloader to the phone till after one has rooted and s-off'd the phone.
as quoted from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14573409&postcount=15
there are two ways to root our phones.
1) root.sh, regardless of what VISIONary or root.sh package you use. This will only root phones with good eMMCs. If your phone doesn't root via this method, then you have a bad eMMC and shouldn't root your phone.
2) ./gfree, regardless of what VISIONary or ./gfree package you use. This will root your phone regardless if you have a good or bad chip. you are setting yourself up to be royally screwed down the road, if you use root.sh it fails multiple times. Then use ./gfree to root it.
you are correct in the assumption that ./gfree will root your phone no matter what. But it will brick you phone if you have a bad eMMC. It might not happen right away, it might not happen in a week, or a month. But it's coming. There are thousands of threads all over the webs of people with bricked phone who use ./gfree to root their devices with a bad eMMC. there are significantly less threads of people who use root.sh and have bricked their phones.
advising someone to use ./gfree after they've admitted that root.sh didn't work, multiple times, w/o a fair warning is ignorant and not really helping anyone. a rooted phone is nice, a bricked device is totally different....
Yes I do and s off, but no root access and visionary wont root it after I successfully temp rooted, then booted did terminal emulator, wen I went to perm root it said I had to temp root first
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Do you have the SuperUser icon?
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King350z said:
Yes I do and s off, but no root access and visionary wont root it after I successfully temp rooted, then booted did terminal emulator, wen I went to perm root it said I had to temp root first
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settings > applications > all > search for super user > delete the icon > reboot the phone > try visionary again.
Try that, it should help.
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1) root.sh, regardless of what VISIONary or root.sh package you use. This will only root phones with good eMMCs. If your phone doesn't root via this method, then you have a bad eMMC and shouldn't root your phone.
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Not true. Visionary doesn't permaroot for all of the good eMMCs. Verify which eMMC you have. If you don't have ADB set up, then temp root (although you're having problems with that currently) and then in Terminal Emulator:
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That will report out the name of the chip you have. SEM=good.
delete the icon or uninstall the program, then try to temp root again with visionary and go through the steps?
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delete the icon or uninstall the program, then try to temp root again with visionary and go through the steps?
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delete Super User from the Application menu, via the settings. Then try to temp root / perma root again.
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Not true. Visionary doesn't permaroot for all of the good eMMCs. Verify which eMMC you have. If you don't have ADB set up, then temp root (although you're having problems with that currently) and then in Terminal Emulator:
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That will report out the name of the chip you have. SEM=good.
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you have no clue what i'm saying.
VISIONary will not perma root a phone at all. You must manually turn s-off. You need to do that one of two ways. Either with the root.sh or the ./gfree method. both of which use VISIONary in their independent process. root.sh will not root bad eMMC phones. ./gfree will root either or without a problem.
will try it thanks, I don't know if it makes a diff but wheni open visionary now while temp rooting it just flashes for a few minutes?
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delete Super User from the Application menu, via the settings. Then try to temp root / perma root again.
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will try it thanks, I don't know if it makes a diff but wheni open visionary now while temp rooting it just flashes for a few minutes?
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That's why i said earlier to reboot after you delete the superuser.apk. It will clean all of the current cache out.
Thank you for the help, will try it out when i get a chance later tonight or tomorrow, hope it works
Hey everyone,
Back when it first came out, I did the Visionary temp root. The only thing I did was disable a bunch of the packages that can't be uninstalled like Facebook and such.
I read the thread about doing permanent root with Visionary causing bricks. I'd like to get clarification as to whether or not my phone is potentially at risk.
I verified that I only did temporary root, as opening a terminal and typing 'su' just yields permission denied.
Thanks in advance!
Just did the manual update and everything is fine for what it's worth
I would love to know if you have any luck with Temp Root now that you have the OTA. I don't want to install the OTA until I know VISIONary can give me Temp Root so I can tether...
temp root with visionary doesnt brick your device so dont worry, its perm root that bricks it
But does it still work? I have Visionary r10 and I don't want to accept the OTA until I know I can still tether... (but of course, I can deal with getting a newer Visionary if it's confirmed to still work with the OTA)
r14 I haven't had luck with
I am about to use the KFU to root and wanted to know which option I should choose. Temporary root or permanent root. what is the difference?
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I am about to use the KFU to root and wanted to know which option I should choose. Temporary root or permanent root. what is the difference?
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Temp root gives you all the benefits of rooting until you power off the system (I believe.) If you are not sure if you want to root, temp rooting is a good way to check out what it's like to be rooted.
Permanent rooting is exactly what it says. It roots the Fire and will stay that way until you decide to unroot it, or if Amazon pushes another update that breaks root.