OK I don't know this but when I temp root with visionary once and I automatically get a super user icon if it worked now when I did that and set the setting turn fastboot off and the usb thing once I did all that and now I can use any application that has root access on it now when I boot my phone and go to use my root apps it says super user granted and I can still use the root Apps and I don't even have to reroot my phone again so now I'm asking do i have root all the time now cuz I don't have to use visionary again to temp root or permanent root do any one have the same thing.
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I've tried to decipher what you have asked.
I believe you wonder how a temporary root could be acting as if it were permanent. If that is what you wanted to know, the VISIONary application has a setting for "temp root on boot" -- this will give you temporary root every time you boot the phone. If you disable that setting, and reboot, you will not have root access.
Root access alone is not enough to install custom ROMs, but it is enough to use a number of applications that require root access.
Yea sorry not good in explaining things. okay i see now, I'm still new at this but thank you. for clearing that up for me.
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Is it as simple as clicking "perm root" like it was with Universal Androot? Do I need to temp root first?
If I want root access but don't need S-OFF at this point, will this program be enough? For now I just want to remap the genius button, maybe remove some bloatware, and eventually install a recovery so I can flash CM6 when it's ready.
Sorry for the newb quesitons, just don't want to brick my brand new device.
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You can do this with Temproot
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9174060&postcount=36
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What he said. And, as far as I know, there is no reason to have S=ON and full root access. You really couldn't do anything in that state that you wouldn't be able to do with temp root access, which allows for cached system changes.
I was able to get my phone to s-off permanently but its not rooted so I assume its partially rooted. When I try to us Rom Manager to install ClockworkMod it tells me the phone is not rooted. Do I have to push the root using ADB? Also to explain I used VISIONary+ version 14 with Astro to root the phone if that helps any. Now, when I try to perm root the phone with VISIONary+ it tells me I have to temp root and when I do that again it just stays in a loop, and doesn't really root it. I was able to get SU privileges in the beginning but not anymore.
I googled this issue but to much information was thrown out there so I do apologize for asking what may be a repeating question
I have the same issue.. I finally got s-off to stick and now i cant perm root plus i am not familiar using adb
Yeah I haven't bothered with pushing perm root with adb only because I want to make sure that this is common. Adb is actually really easy to use. As long as you follow and type the code exactly then all will be great.
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I used visionary to temp root/root. followed all the instructions in visionary and terminal emulator. when I restarted the phone it showed S off, I went to visionary to perm root and it say's I have to temp root my phone?? I rooted my other mytouch 4g the same way and it worked so I don't know what's wrong Im pretty sure i'm not doing anything wrong
Once you get s off and boot up you don't have su permissions so you need to temproot and then permroot immediately after to complete the root process
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I got S off, rebooted in the mode, did everything in terminal emulator and when i went to visionary to perm root it said i had to temp root my device first, when i try to temp root with visionary the program keeps flashing for a few minutes, then nothing... anything I can do with the S being off already? The "super user" program is in my programs already also... can't figure it out
King350z said:
I got S off, rebooted in the mode, did everything in terminal emulator and when i went to visionary to perm root it said i had to temp root my device first, when i try to temp root with visionary the program keeps flashing for a few minutes, then nothing... anything I can do with the S being off already? The "super user" program is in my programs already also... can't figure it out
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When you try to use root access is it not allowing it? Open up something like root explorer that asks for root access and see if it works. If it does then it sounds like it worked.
No it's not even though I have S off and did all the commands in terminal, I tried using Rom Manager, Titanium etc.. other root programs it says I need to root my phone first...
King350z said:
No it's not even though I have S off and did all the commands in terminal, I tried using Rom Manager, Titanium etc.. other root programs it says I need to root my phone first...
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Do you have the SuperUser icon?
bootloader? Here's the root guide
What bootloader do you have?
0.86.0000 seems to make some rooting methods difficult if not completely ineffective.
Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-995549.html
It was seamless for me.
**I am not responsible for any consequences of you playing with your phone.**
thepza said:
What bootloader do you have?
0.86.0000 seems to make some rooting methods difficult if not completely ineffective.
Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-995549.html
It was seamless for me.
**I am not responsible for any consequences of you playing with your phone.**
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All phones come with the .86.xxxx bootloader, you cannot load the .85.xxxx bootloader to the phone till after one has rooted and s-off'd the phone.
as quoted from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14573409&postcount=15
there are two ways to root our phones.
1) root.sh, regardless of what VISIONary or root.sh package you use. This will only root phones with good eMMCs. If your phone doesn't root via this method, then you have a bad eMMC and shouldn't root your phone.
2) ./gfree, regardless of what VISIONary or ./gfree package you use. This will root your phone regardless if you have a good or bad chip. you are setting yourself up to be royally screwed down the road, if you use root.sh it fails multiple times. Then use ./gfree to root it.
you are correct in the assumption that ./gfree will root your phone no matter what. But it will brick you phone if you have a bad eMMC. It might not happen right away, it might not happen in a week, or a month. But it's coming. There are thousands of threads all over the webs of people with bricked phone who use ./gfree to root their devices with a bad eMMC. there are significantly less threads of people who use root.sh and have bricked their phones.
advising someone to use ./gfree after they've admitted that root.sh didn't work, multiple times, w/o a fair warning is ignorant and not really helping anyone. a rooted phone is nice, a bricked device is totally different....
Yes I do and s off, but no root access and visionary wont root it after I successfully temp rooted, then booted did terminal emulator, wen I went to perm root it said I had to temp root first
neidlinger said:
Do you have the SuperUser icon?
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King350z said:
Yes I do and s off, but no root access and visionary wont root it after I successfully temp rooted, then booted did terminal emulator, wen I went to perm root it said I had to temp root first
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settings > applications > all > search for super user > delete the icon > reboot the phone > try visionary again.
Try that, it should help.
neidlinger said:
1) root.sh, regardless of what VISIONary or root.sh package you use. This will only root phones with good eMMCs. If your phone doesn't root via this method, then you have a bad eMMC and shouldn't root your phone.
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Not true. Visionary doesn't permaroot for all of the good eMMCs. Verify which eMMC you have. If you don't have ADB set up, then temp root (although you're having problems with that currently) and then in Terminal Emulator:
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That will report out the name of the chip you have. SEM=good.
delete the icon or uninstall the program, then try to temp root again with visionary and go through the steps?
King350z said:
delete the icon or uninstall the program, then try to temp root again with visionary and go through the steps?
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delete Super User from the Application menu, via the settings. Then try to temp root / perma root again.
thepza said:
Not true. Visionary doesn't permaroot for all of the good eMMCs. Verify which eMMC you have. If you don't have ADB set up, then temp root (although you're having problems with that currently) and then in Terminal Emulator:
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That will report out the name of the chip you have. SEM=good.
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you have no clue what i'm saying.
VISIONary will not perma root a phone at all. You must manually turn s-off. You need to do that one of two ways. Either with the root.sh or the ./gfree method. both of which use VISIONary in their independent process. root.sh will not root bad eMMC phones. ./gfree will root either or without a problem.
will try it thanks, I don't know if it makes a diff but wheni open visionary now while temp rooting it just flashes for a few minutes?
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delete Super User from the Application menu, via the settings. Then try to temp root / perma root again.
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King350z said:
will try it thanks, I don't know if it makes a diff but wheni open visionary now while temp rooting it just flashes for a few minutes?
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That's why i said earlier to reboot after you delete the superuser.apk. It will clean all of the current cache out.
Thank you for the help, will try it out when i get a chance later tonight or tomorrow, hope it works
I am trying to root my phone and am running into trouble early. I have watched the videos & followed instructions. Somehow I am either missing something or my phone is jacked somehow.
I made sure it's not in fast boot, USB debugging & unknown sources are on. I have tried visionary r14 & r11. I have also tried multiple factory resets.
OK, I use visionary with set system r/w after root checked. I go from there to Term. Emulator & when I type su it shows "unknown user root" without the quotes. I've tried to continue but it gives me other errors and S is always on when I check.
I've searched Google & the forums and haven't found much that's been able to help me.
If anyone has seen this I would appreciate the help. Thanks!
Visionary (r11 & r14) are only temp root tools. You must use one of the two methods (both are in my signature) to turn s-off. As long as your s-on you will not be able to permaroot your phone.
Once you turn off the phone, and turn it back on you've lost Root Access. and that's why it's given you that error. If you pull the battery wait about 30 seconds, put the battery back in. Then temp root you should see a "superuser" icon appear. Once you see that try your SU command from terminal emulator. The other thing you can try is setting up your ADB (link in signature). Navigate to the c:/adb folder then typing in ADB shell. You should see a $ sign appear. Type SU from the Command Prompt and it should ask you to approve the SU access on the phone. once you've gained temp SU access you can proceed with one of the two methods i've got posted to finish turning s-off.
It's the temp root I'm getting stuck at. I do get the superuser icon after I do the temp root. I go directly to emulator and type in su and that is when it tells me "unknown user root". I will try the ADB method when I get home from work if nothing else is figured out before that.
Same deal for me. Not sure if my MT4G is a newer model or what. I've literally done EVERY set of instructions and youtube videos on rooting and keep getting stuck at the same place. Typing su into terminal emulator and getting unknown user root. I have reset my phone, taken the battery out for five minutes and re-inserted it. I have tried both visionary 11 and 14 versions and clicked temp root. Once the temp root process completes and comes back to visionary+ I go straight to terminal emulator, type in su and get unknown user root. Unlike dbharr I DO NOT get a superuser icon after temprooting with visionary. It's not like i'm fudging up any part of the process here. I'm stuck at like step 2 of the rooting process. Any ideas anyone?
Software version is 2.2.1
You may have a newer chip set and may only be able to root with s-off by using the gfree route. It was the only thing that worked for me.
In my situation I had visionary installed, root folder in the root of my sd card, and followed the unlockr method for root access.
I temprooted and checked temp root on boot and rw one too.
I ran terminal emulator, typed in the commands and the process ran and looked like a success.
I powered my phone down and boot into hboot and s-on showed up.
I tried the same process and factory reset between tries.
I then found out there was another way to get perm root with s-off using a similar process.
I factory reset and placed visionary apk and gfree folder on the root of my sd card.
I went on the android market and installed root explorer (there plenty others you can use it only need to be able to access your root) and also terminal emulator.
I installed visionary and temp rooted (using same temproot method from unlockr.com) my phone I downloaded the gfree file and extracted it on my cpu then moved it to the root of my sdcard.
Then using your root explorer go into gfree folder and copy the file called "gfree" and only this file.
The go into the root of the phone and your going to paste that into the local folder in /data/local/
From there you type in a few commands in terminal emulator. It will run thru a process then power down.
Boot into hboot and verify it shows s-off
If so reboot phone. When your phone boots up visionary should have temp rooted your phone.
If so Open up visionary and uncheck temproot on boot and click attempt perm root. Your phone will reboot and you have perm root. Verify by typing su in terminal emulator and then if you get # your good to go.
If you dont get s-off try factory reset and repeat process, you should be able to find the instructions if you search gfree and it should come up but if im not mistaken its a stickie on the developement forum
Hope this helps!
HTC Glacier
Perm-rooted S-off
If root.sh method is not working, use gfree + visionary method. Worked for me as a charm.
People, please bother to read before answering questions. Marking below the important part of the question that everyone is missing:
corollatercel said:
Same deal for me. Not sure if my MT4G is a newer model or what. I've literally done EVERY set of instructions and youtube videos on rooting and keep getting stuck at the same place. Typing su into terminal emulator and getting unknown user root. I have reset my phone, taken the battery out for five minutes and re-inserted it. I have tried both visionary 11 and 14 versions and clicked temp root. Once the temp root process completes and comes back to visionary+ I go straight to terminal emulator, type in su and get unknown user root. Unlike dbharr I DO NOT get a superuser icon after temprooting with visionary. It's not like i'm fudging up any part of the process here. I'm stuck at like step 2 of the rooting process. Any ideas anyone?
Software version is 2.2.1
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To corollatercel:
If Visionary doesn't temp-root your phone, you could attempt it using SuperOneClick (google it) from PC, using rageagainstthecage or psneuter method. Just substitute the steps for temp-root using Visionary to temp-root using SuperOneClick.
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People, please bother to read before answering questions. Marking below the important part of the question that everyone is missing:
To corollatercel:
If Visionary doesn't temp-root your phone, you could attempt it using SuperOneClick (google it) from PC, using rageagainstthecage or psneuter method. Just substitute the steps for temp-root using Visionary to temp-root using SuperOneClick.
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Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for. An alternate method of temprooting. I will try this and post results. Thanks Jack.
Ok you guys may think i'm kidding but I tried both methods outlined
Here:
SuperOneClick trying both psnueter AND gingerbreak options
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
And
Here:
RageagainsttheCage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792016
and even after superoneclick says its rooted AND says says success when it asks if I want to test root by sending su command, whenever I go into terminal Emulator and type in su I get permission denied or unknown user root whenever I tried su through adb shell through Dos on my machine. I dunno what is it with my device. I did all of this after fresh factory resets just so you all know. I dunno my MT4G must have a newer chipset that's not vulnerable to the current exploits is all I can say. I've follow these instructions to the letter more than twice each time factory resetting just to make sure things are fresh. Still no dice.
I never did get mine working. I did get a warranty replacement & had it rooted within 10 minutes of being out of the box. That makes me think it was something with the phone. Best of luck to others with the same problem.
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I never did get mine working. I did get a warranty replacement & had it rooted within 10 minutes of being out of the box. That makes me think it was something with the phone. Best of luck to others with the same problem.
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Yeah unfortunately am not in that same position. It sucks. Guess i'm stuck with it for the moment. Only reason I really wanted to root and upgrade was so I could download netflix. I went from the G2 to the MT4G and had NO idea it was just compatible with certain devices. I've tried different versions of the netflix app on here too but they all require you to have root. Hopefully they make the app compatible soon.
Here's an update everyone. I was FINALLY able to get everything working. I had to use a tool called Z4root to gain temproot. You can imagine my relief AND also frustration after I installed z4root and things just started running just the way it was supposed to. I gained temp root in a matter of minutes and after doing so I was able to use the gfree method to perform all other functions that are a part of the rooting process. And for the record ALL other tools did not work for me:
- Both versions of visionary + 11 and 14
- SuperOneClick using psnueter AND rageagainstthecage exploits
Just thought I'd share. Thanks a lot guys. I had already put my mytouch on cl for sale or trade for a G2 because I thought my device could not be rooted or anything. until about 1 o clock in the morning I got it workin...ha.
Thats sweet man im glad you got it done, only difference I was avle to use visionary
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hi. i updated my phone to 2.3.4 (sys 4.5.91 us) and i cannot get my root back. im pretty new to root but i do not want anything but root. not unlock, not new rom, not anything except root.
i had the latest version of Android and used Gingerbreak and i was extremely happy as it was so easy for me to do. i had root and that's all i wanted. but now... i updated to 2.3.4 and i did not unroot before this (maybe this is my problem) but my phone is fine, everything runs great. but i cannot root it. i used this walk-through http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/motorola-atrix-hacks/4414-how-root-motorola-atrix-all-versions-including-stock-locked-2-3-4-a.html and finished it all. everything went through and i still don't have root.
i have done it 3 times now and successfully competed the steps. i still have no root. can someone direct me or walk me through another way of rooting or by chance giving me advice on what to do so i can get root? im not a scientist and i know it doesn't take one...but all i know is i just cant get my phone rooted and want it rooted badly.
someone please help me. i searched all over the forums and keep finding the steps i followed and then also found unlock steps(something i do not want to do)
all i want is root. please keep that in mind.
Hammernok said:
hi. i updated my phone to 2.3.4 (sys 4.5.91 us) and i cannot get my root back. im pretty new to root but i do not want anything but root. not unlock, not new rom, not anything except root.
i had the latest version of Android and used Gingerbreak and i was extremely happy as it was so easy for me to do. i had root and that's all i wanted. but now... i updated to 2.3.4 and i did not unroot before this (maybe this is my problem) but my phone is fine, everything runs great. but i cannot root it. i used this walk-through http://www.atrixforums.com/forum/motorola-atrix-hacks/4414-how-root-motorola-atrix-all-versions-including-stock-locked-2-3-4-a.html and finished it all. everything went through and i still don't have root.
i have done it 3 times now and successfully competed the steps. i still have no root. can someone direct me or walk me through another way of rooting or by chance giving me advice on what to do so i can get root? im not a scientist and i know it doesn't take one...but all i know is i just cant get my phone rooted and want it rooted badly.
someone please help me. i searched all over the forums and keep finding the steps i followed and then also found unlock steps(something i do not want to do)
all i want is root. please keep that in mind.
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I used this method on my OTA gingerbread.
At first, it gave me errors and pretty much wouldn't work past command line, but in reality, Superuser was installed and I was able to launch it.
Do you have Superuser in your app drawer?
yes i do have super user. and i am able to launch it. but it does not unlock anything.
i got no errors. i did everything correctly and still i dont have root access. maybe im missing something?? i try to run Titanium backup and it said no root access. said the same thing with Root explorer.
superuser runs... but it doesnt have anything unlocked. i try to update superuser and it wont let me.
silentecho13 said:
I used this method on my OTA gingerbread.
At first, it gave me errors and pretty much wouldn't work past command line, but in reality, Superuser was installed and I was able to launch it.
Do you have Superuser in your app drawer?
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Hammernok said:
yes i do have super user. and i am able to launch it. but it does not unlock anything.
i got no errors. i did everything correctly and still i dont have root access. maybe im missing something?? i try to run Titanium backup and it said no root access. said the same thing with Root explorer.
superuser runs... but it doesnt have anything unlocked. i try to update superuser and it wont let me.
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hmm, you can try going to manage apps and clearing superuser's data, and then maybe attempt the process again.
I had to clear data to get superuser to do anything at all when I rooted.
i read that before i attempted it the third time. i cleared data then completed the steps and still... my superuser runs but apparently i do not have root access.
superuser does not ask if i want to allow for root access for any programs like TB or Root Explorer as it should.
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hmm, you can try going to manage apps and clearing superuser's data, and then maybe attempt the process again.
I had to clear data to get superuser to do anything at all when I rooted.
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and i meant that i had read about that before attempting the entire process for the third time. i read on another post that someone had it installed already and had to clear the data so... i did that before my third attempt.
still no root!
Hammernok said:
and i meant that i had read about that before attempting the entire process for the third time. i read on another post that someone had it installed already and had to clear the data so... i did that before my third attempt.
still no root!
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Check this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204