I am trying to root my phone and am running into trouble early. I have watched the videos & followed instructions. Somehow I am either missing something or my phone is jacked somehow.
I made sure it's not in fast boot, USB debugging & unknown sources are on. I have tried visionary r14 & r11. I have also tried multiple factory resets.
OK, I use visionary with set system r/w after root checked. I go from there to Term. Emulator & when I type su it shows "unknown user root" without the quotes. I've tried to continue but it gives me other errors and S is always on when I check.
I've searched Google & the forums and haven't found much that's been able to help me.
If anyone has seen this I would appreciate the help. Thanks!
Visionary (r11 & r14) are only temp root tools. You must use one of the two methods (both are in my signature) to turn s-off. As long as your s-on you will not be able to permaroot your phone.
Once you turn off the phone, and turn it back on you've lost Root Access. and that's why it's given you that error. If you pull the battery wait about 30 seconds, put the battery back in. Then temp root you should see a "superuser" icon appear. Once you see that try your SU command from terminal emulator. The other thing you can try is setting up your ADB (link in signature). Navigate to the c:/adb folder then typing in ADB shell. You should see a $ sign appear. Type SU from the Command Prompt and it should ask you to approve the SU access on the phone. once you've gained temp SU access you can proceed with one of the two methods i've got posted to finish turning s-off.
It's the temp root I'm getting stuck at. I do get the superuser icon after I do the temp root. I go directly to emulator and type in su and that is when it tells me "unknown user root". I will try the ADB method when I get home from work if nothing else is figured out before that.
Same deal for me. Not sure if my MT4G is a newer model or what. I've literally done EVERY set of instructions and youtube videos on rooting and keep getting stuck at the same place. Typing su into terminal emulator and getting unknown user root. I have reset my phone, taken the battery out for five minutes and re-inserted it. I have tried both visionary 11 and 14 versions and clicked temp root. Once the temp root process completes and comes back to visionary+ I go straight to terminal emulator, type in su and get unknown user root. Unlike dbharr I DO NOT get a superuser icon after temprooting with visionary. It's not like i'm fudging up any part of the process here. I'm stuck at like step 2 of the rooting process. Any ideas anyone?
Software version is 2.2.1
You may have a newer chip set and may only be able to root with s-off by using the gfree route. It was the only thing that worked for me.
In my situation I had visionary installed, root folder in the root of my sd card, and followed the unlockr method for root access.
I temprooted and checked temp root on boot and rw one too.
I ran terminal emulator, typed in the commands and the process ran and looked like a success.
I powered my phone down and boot into hboot and s-on showed up.
I tried the same process and factory reset between tries.
I then found out there was another way to get perm root with s-off using a similar process.
I factory reset and placed visionary apk and gfree folder on the root of my sd card.
I went on the android market and installed root explorer (there plenty others you can use it only need to be able to access your root) and also terminal emulator.
I installed visionary and temp rooted (using same temproot method from unlockr.com) my phone I downloaded the gfree file and extracted it on my cpu then moved it to the root of my sdcard.
Then using your root explorer go into gfree folder and copy the file called "gfree" and only this file.
The go into the root of the phone and your going to paste that into the local folder in /data/local/
From there you type in a few commands in terminal emulator. It will run thru a process then power down.
Boot into hboot and verify it shows s-off
If so reboot phone. When your phone boots up visionary should have temp rooted your phone.
If so Open up visionary and uncheck temproot on boot and click attempt perm root. Your phone will reboot and you have perm root. Verify by typing su in terminal emulator and then if you get # your good to go.
If you dont get s-off try factory reset and repeat process, you should be able to find the instructions if you search gfree and it should come up but if im not mistaken its a stickie on the developement forum
Hope this helps!
HTC Glacier
Perm-rooted S-off
If root.sh method is not working, use gfree + visionary method. Worked for me as a charm.
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corollatercel said:
Same deal for me. Not sure if my MT4G is a newer model or what. I've literally done EVERY set of instructions and youtube videos on rooting and keep getting stuck at the same place. Typing su into terminal emulator and getting unknown user root. I have reset my phone, taken the battery out for five minutes and re-inserted it. I have tried both visionary 11 and 14 versions and clicked temp root. Once the temp root process completes and comes back to visionary+ I go straight to terminal emulator, type in su and get unknown user root. Unlike dbharr I DO NOT get a superuser icon after temprooting with visionary. It's not like i'm fudging up any part of the process here. I'm stuck at like step 2 of the rooting process. Any ideas anyone?
Software version is 2.2.1
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To corollatercel:
If Visionary doesn't temp-root your phone, you could attempt it using SuperOneClick (google it) from PC, using rageagainstthecage or psneuter method. Just substitute the steps for temp-root using Visionary to temp-root using SuperOneClick.
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People, please bother to read before answering questions. Marking below the important part of the question that everyone is missing:
To corollatercel:
If Visionary doesn't temp-root your phone, you could attempt it using SuperOneClick (google it) from PC, using rageagainstthecage or psneuter method. Just substitute the steps for temp-root using Visionary to temp-root using SuperOneClick.
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Thanks, this is the answer I was looking for. An alternate method of temprooting. I will try this and post results. Thanks Jack.
Ok you guys may think i'm kidding but I tried both methods outlined
Here:
SuperOneClick trying both psnueter AND gingerbreak options
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
And
Here:
RageagainsttheCage
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=792016
and even after superoneclick says its rooted AND says says success when it asks if I want to test root by sending su command, whenever I go into terminal Emulator and type in su I get permission denied or unknown user root whenever I tried su through adb shell through Dos on my machine. I dunno what is it with my device. I did all of this after fresh factory resets just so you all know. I dunno my MT4G must have a newer chipset that's not vulnerable to the current exploits is all I can say. I've follow these instructions to the letter more than twice each time factory resetting just to make sure things are fresh. Still no dice.
I never did get mine working. I did get a warranty replacement & had it rooted within 10 minutes of being out of the box. That makes me think it was something with the phone. Best of luck to others with the same problem.
dbharr said:
I never did get mine working. I did get a warranty replacement & had it rooted within 10 minutes of being out of the box. That makes me think it was something with the phone. Best of luck to others with the same problem.
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Yeah unfortunately am not in that same position. It sucks. Guess i'm stuck with it for the moment. Only reason I really wanted to root and upgrade was so I could download netflix. I went from the G2 to the MT4G and had NO idea it was just compatible with certain devices. I've tried different versions of the netflix app on here too but they all require you to have root. Hopefully they make the app compatible soon.
Here's an update everyone. I was FINALLY able to get everything working. I had to use a tool called Z4root to gain temproot. You can imagine my relief AND also frustration after I installed z4root and things just started running just the way it was supposed to. I gained temp root in a matter of minutes and after doing so I was able to use the gfree method to perform all other functions that are a part of the rooting process. And for the record ALL other tools did not work for me:
- Both versions of visionary + 11 and 14
- SuperOneClick using psnueter AND rageagainstthecage exploits
Just thought I'd share. Thanks a lot guys. I had already put my mytouch on cl for sale or trade for a G2 because I thought my device could not be rooted or anything. until about 1 o clock in the morning I got it workin...ha.
Thats sweet man im glad you got it done, only difference I was avle to use visionary
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Need some help from the geniuses. And though it'll be clear I am not one of these geniuses, I wanted to mention this is my 5th Android phone and I've perma-rooted all of the others and flashed ROMs hundreds of times. I've also searched for a resolution to this with no luck. Lastly, I know some will argue this fits in General or Q&A, but this problem has been reported by a number of folks across phone lines without resolution and I think it is going to require real dev collaboration to solve and possibly help prevent this in the future, so I'm posting it in Dev.
Now, on to the problem....
Bought a MT4G yesterday and came home to root. Followed some of the great guides here to use Visionary R14 to get temproot and then "permaroot". I was getting S-OFF, but my root didn't seem to be lasting beyond reboot, maybe this was because I was showing 2.2 and not the 2.2.1 OTA update. So, I continued with the permaroot guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225 and all seemed to be going well. My root was surviving reboot and I had S-OFF, but the LAST STEP is to reboot again and check S-flag in HBOOT and that's where I went wrong. I'd left the PD15IMG file on the SD root and when it rebooted I guess I was holding the volume rocker up unintentionally, so it flashed this file without me being able to stop it. I rebooted and still showed S-OFF and 2.2.1, but now when I entered terminal emulator and type "su" I get an error about the user being unknown (doing a "ls su" in /system/bin shows su to be there, btw). Obviously the file screwed up root, and reverted my recovery from Clockworkmod to stock. From there I thought I'd reflash the OTA update.zip but I get an "invalid operation" error.
So I probably should have asked for help then, but I've been trying to follow downgrade guides and redo the root procedures but no joy, usually because they require root to initiate the downgrade (to flash a recovery and do a nandroid restore or to execute some steps of the script). I can get a # prompt when I run the rage scripts, but it appears to be losing root when I reboot. One attempt turned S-ON back on as well. My searching turned up a number of other users who have obviously had this problem with various android phones, and the only one to report successfully fixing flashed a non-root update.zip and did some sort of fixes to busybox.
In summary, I can't return the phone to T-mo because I bought it from an associate at work, and I appear to be stuck between root and non-root without any options that are clear to me to resolve the situation. I am somewhat familiar with adb, fastboot flashing, etc., so if someone can just help me fix su/busybox or somehow flash this back to stock so I can start over or something I would be HUGELY appreciative.
vettejock99 said:
Need some help from the geniuses. And though it'll be clear I am not one of these geniuses, I wanted to mention this is my 5th Android phone and I've perma-rooted all of the others and flashed ROMs hundreds of times. I've also searched for a resolution to this with no luck. Lastly, I know some will argue this fits in General or Q&A, but this problem has been reported by a number of folks across phone lines without resolution and I think it is going to require real dev collaboration to solve and possibly help prevent this in the future, so I'm posting it in Dev.
Now, on to the problem....
Bought a MT4G yesterday and came home to root. Followed some of the great guides here to use Visionary R14 to get temproot and then "permaroot". I was getting S-OFF, but my root didn't seem to be lasting beyond reboot, maybe this was because I was showing 2.2 and not the 2.2.1 OTA update. So, I continued with the permaroot guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834225 and all seemed to be going well. My root was surviving reboot and I had S-OFF, but the LAST STEP is to reboot again and check S-flag in HBOOT and that's where I went wrong. I'd left the PD15IMG file on the SD root and when it rebooted I guess I was holding the volume rocker up unintentionally, so it flashed this file without me being able to stop it. I rebooted and still showed S-OFF and 2.2.1, but now when I entered terminal emulator and type "su" I get an error about the user being unknown (doing a "ls su" in /system/bin shows su to be there, btw). Obviously the file screwed up root, and reverted my recovery from Clockworkmod to stock. From there I thought I'd reflash the OTA update.zip but I get an "invalid operation" error.
So I probably should have asked for help then, but I've been trying to follow downgrade guides and redo the root procedures but no joy, usually because they require root to initiate the downgrade (to flash a recovery and do a nandroid restore or to execute some steps of the script). I can get a # prompt when I run the rage scripts, but it appears to be losing root when I reboot. One attempt turned S-ON back on as well. My searching turned up a number of other users who have obviously had this problem with various android phones, and the only one to report successfully fixing flashed a non-root update.zip and did some sort of fixes to busybox.
In summary, I can't return the phone to T-mo because I bought it from an associate at work, and I appear to be stuck between root and non-root without any options that are clear to me to resolve the situation. I am somewhat familiar with adb, fastboot flashing, etc., so if someone can just help me fix su/busybox or somehow flash this back to stock so I can start over or something I would be HUGELY appreciative.
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Try the alternative method in my guide with rage instead of visionary and see if that helps. One thing is does is reinstall su and busybox. Also, make sure that you have deleted the PD15IMG.zip from your sdcard so that this doesn't happen again.
Hey! i had the same problem and all i had to do was re-flash the ROM and ive been fine ever since!
just either use the stock rom in the downgrading post, or flash one of the new ones i.e. icedglacier or Gorillas's. iceglaciers seems to be pretty functional right now gorillas is awesome just has a few kinks he's working on
vettejock99 said:
In summary, I can't return the phone to T-mo because I bought it from an associate at work, and I appear to be stuck between root and non-root without any options that are clear to me to resolve the situation. I am somewhat familiar with adb, fastboot flashing, etc., so if someone can just help me fix su/busybox or somehow flash this back to stock so I can start over or something I would be HUGELY appreciative.
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try this (you should be s-off) and assuming you have busybox already installed.
run rage to get su in your terminal then run the following command in the terminal
busybox mount -o remount,rw /system
busybox chown 0 /system/bin/su
busybox chmod 4755 /system/su
install the superuser.apk if it's not already installed
make sure everything is working by opening a adb shell and typing "su" to verify.
use your phone normally and try rebooting after a few hours. hopefully the fs cache flushed and root is fixed permanently.
mrpanic7 said:
Hey! i had the same problem and all i had to do was re-flash the ROM and ive been fine ever since!
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Okay, first things first - guess I have to try to see if I can even get S-OFF again or if I've completely screwed myself.
Going to try the alt root method, but I think I have been and it wasn't working. So unless me being tired at 1am was the cause, I may need some more help. Thanks.
Okay, followed the s-off guide, and ran the busybox commands posted above, and I am back to S-OFF and now I get "permission denied" instead of "unknown user root". I think this is progress, but still can't flash because I don't have root. I noticed opening Superuser keeps FC'ing...
Please post questions in Q&A section.
just follow this guide here, which you are already familiar with. it's for temp root using rage. but since your phone has the eng hboot with s-off it should become permanent once the FS flushes out to disk (flash)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=797042
follow the guide for root and mainly to get the su files installed just in case your's didn't instal properly prior. when you are done just type "sync" multiple times in your terminal
wait a while an hour or so. then reboot to verify that it's permanent.
Same thing happened to me with the unknown root user. What finally fixed it for me, was redoing the adb commands that put those files on your device so you could use rage. Once it re put the files on my phone, I did the rage commands again and it worked
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Thanks, everyone! I am working again, and I cannot tell you how much I appreciate the help. I was THIS CLOSE to giving up on this phone.
Thanks again.
Mark
I attempted to perform a perm root + S-OFF via BlackPrince' video.
Everything seemed to work like a charm. The only thing I did different was type 'sync' twice at the end of the terminal process. Didn't really think that would hurt.
Downloaded Rom Manager and attempted to flash ClockworkMod, but it gave me errors, said something about su not being found in the right place.
typed su into my phone terminal and got the 'access denied', which leads me of course to believe that my root isn't permanent.
I would love to use both the CM and Sense ROMs, but not sure if that's smart seeing as how the root isn't permanent.
One thing different from BPs video
I have searched all over these intraweb and found a bunch of topics with no definite solution for the G2.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Use the gfree method from the wiki.
wileykat said:
Use the gfree method from the wiki.
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This. If you follow the instructions, it's almost fool proof.
Wiki says if you have S-OFF (I've checked and I still do): "Then you can use the psneuter procedure to get temp root at 1.72, and then follow that up with the usual methods to get permanent root from there."
I can get the # on the PC, but how do I then 'lock it in'? - I've spent a fair while looking round, but can't seem to find out.
I assumed I could go to the terminal emulator, but it was $.
[EDIT] Found it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10600074#post10600074 page 30ish
Thanks for the replies, people. I will definitely use the gfree method when I get home. Two questions though:
Is there a way I can run both sets of commands in terminal?
Can I still perm root while running CM6?
Hello there fellow Glacier owners.
Let me start off by saying I have rooted 2 Glaciers very recently, and I am very familiar with the process. One of them was swapped at the store because I had one of the Taiwanese screens, and it was driving me nuts. I have been trying to root the new one.
I've gone through the gfree, adb, and Visionary+ methods already, and now an issue has cropped up.
Now, when I run Visionary, pop open the terminal, and type 'su' I get an 'unknown user root' error.
When I try to use the adb/gfree method and run 'rage', I now get a 'rage: applet not found' error.
During my previous attempt, I did not get this error. I have tried a reset to factory through stock hboot, I have tried loading the 2.2.1 PD15IMG.zip, through stock hboot (didn't help, wasn't expecting it to). I've even tried switching out and formatting mSD cards on the off chance it might help.
If anyone has any advice or help they can offer me, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
Any way you can post a video of your step by step? I've always used grankin's guide and I've never had an issue, not once, on 6 HTC Glaciers.
Thus far, I've only seen a few reasons why people can't root their phone:
- They aren't on 2.2.1
- They didn't put files in the correct location/follow directions to the T
I don't think I've ever seen a legit, "your device is defective" post, but it's been suggested.
I use visionaryplus.r14.apk each time and my employee has rooted a handful of HTC Glaciers using the same.
I think a video would really help expose any possible oversights. It's either your steps or the device is just "bad" and I'm thinking video footage would help reveal which it is.
Here is a link to my video using the Visionary+ method. I can upload a video for the adb if you want as well.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb3HIvXiF74
Replace DOT with .
I should also note that I was able to run the 'su' command at one point successfully, but this is no longer the case.
Awesome, great vid and thanks for that. Can you get a screen shot (or pic) of your About Phone > Software Information?
Thanks! Here is the requested pic...
I should note that this phone came with 2.2.1, where the other two I have rooted did not.
Awesome, thanks for the quick pic. I've had six Glaciers, two of which came with 2.2.1 pre-installed, the rest came with 2.2 and then 2.2.1 came down once I checked-in. So that alone (2.2.1 pre-installed) shouldn't be an issue.
The difficult part is, there have been multiple "processes" attempted on this device, so I can't attest to the state of the device/ROM. Is this attempt with Visionary coming from a clean install/factory reset? I'd sort of like to "take it back to basics" and have a factory reset device THEN try ONLY the Visionary method.
I saw someone mention that a dev though there could be a hardware issue causing this (I can't remember which thread or which dev mentioned it), but it was only speculative.
It seems pretty clear you know what you're doing and you're quick AND we're not even to the .sh portion (where a lot of people end up with /root/root directories).
Keep me posted...
If you could, please supply me with some detailed factory reset instructions.
I want to make sure we are troubleshooting this appropriately, and I may not be wiping it correctly.
Please let me know.
Thanks.
It should just be Menu > Settings > SD & phone storage > Factory data reset...
Ok, it's running through now.
What would my next step be?
EDIT: Wipe finished. I installed Visionary, ran Temproot, still get the 'su: unknown user root' error.
May be heading to my local T-Mobile to replace the device.
K, so once it's finished you'll get to the TMO setup wizard where you enter your Google account info, etc. Once you get through that and get to the home screen, stop and don't do anything else. That's our home base.
Let me know once you get to the home screen for the first time after factory reset and we'll go from there...
I appreciate your patience and willingness to go through everything in baby steps.
Youch, k, there we go. That's exactly what the next step would've been and it sounds like you're truly not missing anything.
Does anyone else out there have anything to offer? I think you're probably best at cutting your losses and just getting another device. It really should be a very simple process, as you've seen before.
Keep us posted on the new device!
Woops, went a little too far then. I'll re-wipe.
What's the next step?
EDIT: Didn't do this, nevermind.
Ok, I got the new phone. Attempted to root through Visionary, everything looked good, but then I did not have root. Here is what I did...
From factory, out of the box (confirmed 2.2.1), ran Visionary - Temproot.
In terminal, 'su' works properly.
Ran root.sh
Appeared to work, rebooted the phone manually, S was still on.
Ran Visionary Temproot.
Ran Visionary Permroot.
S is still on.
Are there other steps I should take? Or did I perhaps do something wrong.
Please let me know.
Ok, unless there's some silly oversight, I think we might have a different issue here. Anything 'special' about these newer HTC Glaciers? All the specs you posted look identical the devices I've had from November, December, etc.
I hope there's no issue with me posting a link to Visionary.
Visionary R14:
http://deancasey.net/android/apps/visionaryplus.r14.apk
Just for giggles, can you try that APK? I know you said you have the same version, but there's obviously some difference between what you have (hardware, software, etc.) Other than that, it's either process or device. You seem pretty knowledgeable and it's not some silly mistake like not finding the .sh script.
Has anyone else tried to root using Visionary R14 on a newly-acquired MT4G? I'm just wondering if ANYTHING is different about the newer devices.
Still not working.
Should I try the gfree method? I will also note, that the last 2 I did gave me a real hard time rooting them. I bounced around a bunch of threads/methods before I got it to work, and I really don't recall what I had to do.
Yeah, it's just something that's really weird to me. I've been a "tech," professionally, for nearly 15 years. I worked as a Project Manager for a software company for 7 years, so I was solely responsible for testing our new releases. I also did all the 'lite' work like the database patches, installer scripts, etc.
Working closely with a smart developer, you start to get really good at testing and removing your own opinions from the loop. So there's pretty much always a finite reason why something isn't working as expected.
So that side of me wants to know what the variable is. Six of these devices and I've rooted them all without issue, using that .apk and Grankin's .sh script. So it's like, ok, I know this works. I've seen it not work for people who weren't on 2.2.1, who didn't follow the directions, etc. It looks like we can rule out the user with you so now it's a matter of what is unique about your device(s)?
Try the gfree method and report back, but I'd definitely like to see if anyone smarter than you and I has any input on what could be different about the newer devices you have.
Ok, I got the new phone. Attempted to root through Visionary, everything looked good, but then I did not have root. Here is what I did...
From factory, out of the box (confirmed 2.2.1), ran Visionary - Temproot.
In terminal, 'su' works properly.
Ran root.sh
Appeared to work, rebooted the phone manually, S was still on.
Ran Visionary Temproot.
Ran Visionary Permroot.
S is still on.
Are there other steps I should take? Or did I perhaps do something wrong.
Please let me know.
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I was under the impression that you had to turn S off before you can perm-root this device. The way I did it is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
I used only Gfree and Visionary (both can be obtained in the link). No separate rage exploit. If I follow you correctly, I don't see where you used gfree after temp-rooting, which is what actually turns S on or off from my understanding. Visionary is what puts the binaries in place and executes the exploit to do so. I only used these two tools and I have S off with perm-root verified. Try it this way:
1. Fresh MT4G, stock bootloader, recovery, etc.
2. Ensure USB debugging is on
3. Install a terminal emulator
4. Install Visionary
5. Temp-root with Visionary
6. Push gfree to your phone as described in the link above using adb
7. Open your terminal and run gfree as described in the link above
8. Reboot
9. Run Visionary again, but this time ensure you check the box to have it mount system R/W after temp-root
10. Temp-root through Visionary
11. With Visionary still open, attempt to perm-root the device; it should reboot
These are the steps that I remember following and it worked perfectly. The key was using gfree to turn S off in order to get it to stick, then going back to Visionary and rooting. I think it is possible to get perm-root with the engineering bootloader and not really turning S off, but I am not %100 sure about the new stock bootloaders and having to turn S off or not. But, this method worked on more than one MT4G on which I tried it. Hope it helps.
The method outlined in Grankin's post gets you S-Off.
totalentropy is getting stuck before we can even get to the next steps. He's just trying to get Temp Root and then get su. You won't have S-Off at this point in the process and you don't need to have it off at this point. You won't get S-Off until you run the root.sh script...
*Crappy iPod Touch camera
total, have you tried the 'Alternative Root Process' outlined in Grankin's post? He wants you to remove the Visionary and Super User apps before proceeding with that method.
kmdub, that didn't work for me.
schlongwoodian, I did try that, and it seemed to be working. After the last rage, it soft reboots to the MyTouch logo, 5 seconds later flashes back to the MyTouch logo, then boots normally. I checked S after that, and it is still on. This is the same behavior that my other two exhibited when I was trying to root them.
Here is some additional info that may be helpful.
For all 3 Glaciers, I could not push su or Superuser.apk to the phone normally. I could only push them right when the phone booted with the USB plugged in, right after the USB debugging mode message appears. Any other time and I get access denied.
When I run gfree, with the -f switch, I get an error with input file, sometime a different error that I cannot remember off the top of my head. On one Glacier, I could run gfree with the -s off switch, which did work. I tried that on this current one, and it did not help.
For all 3 Glaciers, I could not push su or Superuser.apk to the phone normally.
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Push via? ADB? Why is Superuser.apk being pushed to the phone? That's part of another root process I'm guessing? That's not part of Grankin's root process. Now, the Superuser.apk does get installed (Visionary), but never does Superuser.apk have to be manually copied over.
Those are good points that you mentioned. Can you clarify if you pushed Superuser.apk to your phone earlier? The process should be:
- Factory reset or start with clean device
- Copy visionaryplus.r14.apk to your microSD card (I put mine in a folder named _appz)
- Copy Grankin's 'root' folder to the root of your microSD card
- Run Visionary to gain temp root
- Run Terminal and type su
It's interesting that you're getting the 'unknown user' error right when you type 'su' and you also have manually copied over a Superuser.apk. Can you start the process over again - factory reset - and do nothing once you boot the phone for the first time? Wait and don't copy a thing over, nada. Just wait and post back here. And make sure there truly is nothing on your microSD card - nothing that you've put there that is, not until we can start this over again.
I hope we're onto something...
I used visionary to temp root/root. followed all the instructions in visionary and terminal emulator. when I restarted the phone it showed S off, I went to visionary to perm root and it say's I have to temp root my phone?? I rooted my other mytouch 4g the same way and it worked so I don't know what's wrong Im pretty sure i'm not doing anything wrong
Once you get s off and boot up you don't have su permissions so you need to temproot and then permroot immediately after to complete the root process
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I got S off, rebooted in the mode, did everything in terminal emulator and when i went to visionary to perm root it said i had to temp root my device first, when i try to temp root with visionary the program keeps flashing for a few minutes, then nothing... anything I can do with the S being off already? The "super user" program is in my programs already also... can't figure it out
King350z said:
I got S off, rebooted in the mode, did everything in terminal emulator and when i went to visionary to perm root it said i had to temp root my device first, when i try to temp root with visionary the program keeps flashing for a few minutes, then nothing... anything I can do with the S being off already? The "super user" program is in my programs already also... can't figure it out
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When you try to use root access is it not allowing it? Open up something like root explorer that asks for root access and see if it works. If it does then it sounds like it worked.
No it's not even though I have S off and did all the commands in terminal, I tried using Rom Manager, Titanium etc.. other root programs it says I need to root my phone first...
King350z said:
No it's not even though I have S off and did all the commands in terminal, I tried using Rom Manager, Titanium etc.. other root programs it says I need to root my phone first...
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Do you have the SuperUser icon?
bootloader? Here's the root guide
What bootloader do you have?
0.86.0000 seems to make some rooting methods difficult if not completely ineffective.
Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-995549.html
It was seamless for me.
**I am not responsible for any consequences of you playing with your phone.**
thepza said:
What bootloader do you have?
0.86.0000 seems to make some rooting methods difficult if not completely ineffective.
Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-995549.html
It was seamless for me.
**I am not responsible for any consequences of you playing with your phone.**
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All phones come with the .86.xxxx bootloader, you cannot load the .85.xxxx bootloader to the phone till after one has rooted and s-off'd the phone.
as quoted from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14573409&postcount=15
there are two ways to root our phones.
1) root.sh, regardless of what VISIONary or root.sh package you use. This will only root phones with good eMMCs. If your phone doesn't root via this method, then you have a bad eMMC and shouldn't root your phone.
2) ./gfree, regardless of what VISIONary or ./gfree package you use. This will root your phone regardless if you have a good or bad chip. you are setting yourself up to be royally screwed down the road, if you use root.sh it fails multiple times. Then use ./gfree to root it.
you are correct in the assumption that ./gfree will root your phone no matter what. But it will brick you phone if you have a bad eMMC. It might not happen right away, it might not happen in a week, or a month. But it's coming. There are thousands of threads all over the webs of people with bricked phone who use ./gfree to root their devices with a bad eMMC. there are significantly less threads of people who use root.sh and have bricked their phones.
advising someone to use ./gfree after they've admitted that root.sh didn't work, multiple times, w/o a fair warning is ignorant and not really helping anyone. a rooted phone is nice, a bricked device is totally different....
Yes I do and s off, but no root access and visionary wont root it after I successfully temp rooted, then booted did terminal emulator, wen I went to perm root it said I had to temp root first
neidlinger said:
Do you have the SuperUser icon?
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King350z said:
Yes I do and s off, but no root access and visionary wont root it after I successfully temp rooted, then booted did terminal emulator, wen I went to perm root it said I had to temp root first
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settings > applications > all > search for super user > delete the icon > reboot the phone > try visionary again.
Try that, it should help.
neidlinger said:
1) root.sh, regardless of what VISIONary or root.sh package you use. This will only root phones with good eMMCs. If your phone doesn't root via this method, then you have a bad eMMC and shouldn't root your phone.
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Not true. Visionary doesn't permaroot for all of the good eMMCs. Verify which eMMC you have. If you don't have ADB set up, then temp root (although you're having problems with that currently) and then in Terminal Emulator:
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That will report out the name of the chip you have. SEM=good.
delete the icon or uninstall the program, then try to temp root again with visionary and go through the steps?
King350z said:
delete the icon or uninstall the program, then try to temp root again with visionary and go through the steps?
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delete Super User from the Application menu, via the settings. Then try to temp root / perma root again.
thepza said:
Not true. Visionary doesn't permaroot for all of the good eMMCs. Verify which eMMC you have. If you don't have ADB set up, then temp root (although you're having problems with that currently) and then in Terminal Emulator:
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That will report out the name of the chip you have. SEM=good.
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you have no clue what i'm saying.
VISIONary will not perma root a phone at all. You must manually turn s-off. You need to do that one of two ways. Either with the root.sh or the ./gfree method. both of which use VISIONary in their independent process. root.sh will not root bad eMMC phones. ./gfree will root either or without a problem.
will try it thanks, I don't know if it makes a diff but wheni open visionary now while temp rooting it just flashes for a few minutes?
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delete Super User from the Application menu, via the settings. Then try to temp root / perma root again.
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King350z said:
will try it thanks, I don't know if it makes a diff but wheni open visionary now while temp rooting it just flashes for a few minutes?
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That's why i said earlier to reboot after you delete the superuser.apk. It will clean all of the current cache out.
Thank you for the help, will try it out when i get a chance later tonight or tomorrow, hope it works
I have carefully followed the instructions in the gfree method guide followed from the "Ultimate s=off" guide. I managed to install Visionary and to push the necessary files via ADB. Unfortunately I seem to get no results from running Visionary nor SuperUser. I wind up stuck at the step after "Run visionary to gain temp root". After running Visionary ( it says "attempting to root" and screen goes blank ) I try the next step and code "su" into the terminal and get "Permission Denied" error. I have been at this for two days and have searched like crazy for a solution before posting. FastBoot is turned off. USB Debugging is On. USB is unplugged for Visionary step. I did the downgrade step already, it is running 2.2.1 - Thank you for the help.
EDIT: Well my head hurts but I solved this problem. I uninstalled Android Terminal Emulator and installed JS Terminal instead. Now it gives me super user access # when I type "su"
EDIT 2: I now think that it might have more to do with just re installing apps in general after downgrading. Also, even after getting S=Off via gfree, I still had to run VISIONary "gain temporary root" in order to get superuser again so that I could install CWM and continue on. Speaking of VISIONary, only version 11 seemed to work! Thank you to all the helpful posters and whoever worked on the wiki! I am now running Dark Unicorn 2.5 and really enjoying the improvement over the older OS!
goldbrick said:
I have carefully followed the instructions in the gfree method guide followed from the "Ultimate s=off" guide. I managed to install Visionary and to push the necessary files via ADB. Unfortunately I seem to get no results from running Visionary nor SuperUser. I wind up stuck at the step after "Run visionary to gain temp root". After running Visionary ( it says "attempting to root" and screen goes blank ) I try the next step and code "su" into the terminal and get "Permission Denied" error. I have been at this for two days and have searched like crazy for a solution before posting. FastBoot is turned off. USB Debugging is On. USB is unplugged for Visionary step. Thank you for the help.
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Did you downgrade to 2.2 first? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
unqualified said:
Did you downgrade to 2.2 first? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912
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Thank you for the reply. Yes, I did the downgrade. I also made sure my firewall is off in Windows when copying the files to the phone. I have tried different versions of the Visionary app. I have also tried different versions of SuperUser apps, although I know those are not a part of the basic guide. Basically I have been running in a circle making sure I have followed every step exactly in the gfree guide, but winding up with the Permission Denied result instead of SuperUser access
EDIT: Well my head hurts but I solved this problem. I uninstalled Android Terminal Emulator and installed JS Terminal instead. Now it gives me super user access # when I type "su"