Hey everyone,
Back when it first came out, I did the Visionary temp root. The only thing I did was disable a bunch of the packages that can't be uninstalled like Facebook and such.
I read the thread about doing permanent root with Visionary causing bricks. I'd like to get clarification as to whether or not my phone is potentially at risk.
I verified that I only did temporary root, as opening a terminal and typing 'su' just yields permission denied.
Thanks in advance!
Just did the manual update and everything is fine for what it's worth
I would love to know if you have any luck with Temp Root now that you have the OTA. I don't want to install the OTA until I know VISIONary can give me Temp Root so I can tether...
temp root with visionary doesnt brick your device so dont worry, its perm root that bricks it
But does it still work? I have Visionary r10 and I don't want to accept the OTA until I know I can still tether... (but of course, I can deal with getting a newer Visionary if it's confirmed to still work with the OTA)
r14 I haven't had luck with
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Will there be a rooted ota for people who didn't install it or never got it. I rooted my phone and would like the better radio in hopes I will get more cell bars
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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Sv3nt3k said:
There's already the option to root if you already applied the OTA update or are planning to.
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i dont understand what u mean i have perm root without the ota. If i install the ota it will break root. Will i have to go thru the whole process again if i do this? I know on the mytouchslide when they came out with an ota they just rooted it so it wouldnt break the current root
i havent tried perm root yet. however search this site for 'visionary' root, which is all u really need for now. i had visionary root installed along with several root only apps (titanium backup, cachemate, setcpu, several others) and the OTA installed while my phone was rooted with absolutely no problems.
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
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the "#" denotes root access lol...... (coming from a marginal linux background..)
richierich118 said:
I installed the ota over the perm root and now I have no superuser permissions. When I try to run visionary it says my phone is already rooted yet I cannot run apps that require root or get the # in termal can anyone help with this
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Have you tried reapplying s-off?
I am also interested in getting a solution because right before I rooted my phone I started getting ota update notifications for my phone and now I cant upgrade my phone but the notifications continue to persist. So I figure if I can get a rooted update or delete something, I can get rid of notifications.
ok i got it working what i did was do what somesaid in the begining and that was to follow the guide that doesnt use visionary for perm root. I think its call temp to perm root. I always had the s-off just not the perm root. everything is fine now
At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
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At least you were able to apply the update. I tried doing that and Clockworks Recovery halted it because some signature was verified or something.
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I didnt use clockworks recover i used the orginal. It just made me loose root and not s-off so i used the temp-too-perm root to get it back because visionary was saying my phone was already rooted. I believe I was getting this cause i had rooted without the ota the first time. The second time i used the ota.ko Instead of the preota.ko because i used this when i didnt update to the ota on the first run.
Oh, okay. Thanks for that. I'm currently in the same boat you were in. I applied the OTA and it's reporting S-OFF, Visionary is saying I'm rooted, but certain things aren't working.
In the process of getting it fixed.
EDIT: Went through the same process you did and I'm all good to go. I was able to apply the OTA update after rooting it and then re-rooted it.
so how exactly did you root you perma root your phone again after ota.
i have perma root right now, its pre-ota, i do want to install ota though.. would i have to go back and do the manual perma-root with the "ota" files now instead of the other ones. im just confused and want to clear this up before i do anything stupid. thanks!
I was able to get my phone to s-off permanently but its not rooted so I assume its partially rooted. When I try to us Rom Manager to install ClockworkMod it tells me the phone is not rooted. Do I have to push the root using ADB? Also to explain I used VISIONary+ version 14 with Astro to root the phone if that helps any. Now, when I try to perm root the phone with VISIONary+ it tells me I have to temp root and when I do that again it just stays in a loop, and doesn't really root it. I was able to get SU privileges in the beginning but not anymore.
I googled this issue but to much information was thrown out there so I do apologize for asking what may be a repeating question
I have the same issue.. I finally got s-off to stick and now i cant perm root plus i am not familiar using adb
Yeah I haven't bothered with pushing perm root with adb only because I want to make sure that this is common. Adb is actually really easy to use. As long as you follow and type the code exactly then all will be great.
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About 3 hours ago, I won a Desire Z (wheeey!) at the HTC London meetup. Naturally, I came straight here after the help I got in January rooting my Desire.
I used the Visionary method and obtained temp root status, and then attempted perm root, which seemed to work. All of the guides I have read include a bunch of steps after this, one of which included deleting Visionary, which I then did. I just turned the phone off, took the battery out for a bit and then turned it back on. I still have the Superuser icon and the Terminal Emulator indicates that I have root access... is that it then? It's that simple?
Please tell me if I've done anything wrong, as I don't want to flash Cyanogen and Clockwork Recovery if it's all going to go to hell on me. Any advice or confirmation on whether or not I've obtained perm root would be lovely.
Oh, my firmware version is 1.34.405... etc. Is this simply the last version which allows for such easy root?
EDIT: Bugger, didn't realise what forum I was in, please delete this and I'll pop it in the Q&A.
accordingly you should have probably only achieved temp root. you'll probably lose access later when you restart it again.
One of the stickies for this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025135
No. I thought same thing when I did that. I gained temp root then 3 simple commands and BAM! S-OFF and all
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the first desire z i got was right when it was released and at that time the only method that was available was the visionary method... and although some people were having problems with it the perm root method worked fine for me and i had a perm root desire z for over a month (then i sat on the phone and broke it lol)... my understanding is that visionary can give u perm root but by doing that it will modify a number of system files that should not be modified and that worked for some people and for others it just bricked their phones... personally i would do a hard reset of the phone to erase any damage visionary might have done to the phone system files before putting any rom on it (CM or other)... then get perm root and S-OFF the clean way using ADB ...
I used visionary to temp root/root. followed all the instructions in visionary and terminal emulator. when I restarted the phone it showed S off, I went to visionary to perm root and it say's I have to temp root my phone?? I rooted my other mytouch 4g the same way and it worked so I don't know what's wrong Im pretty sure i'm not doing anything wrong
Once you get s off and boot up you don't have su permissions so you need to temproot and then permroot immediately after to complete the root process
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I got S off, rebooted in the mode, did everything in terminal emulator and when i went to visionary to perm root it said i had to temp root my device first, when i try to temp root with visionary the program keeps flashing for a few minutes, then nothing... anything I can do with the S being off already? The "super user" program is in my programs already also... can't figure it out
King350z said:
I got S off, rebooted in the mode, did everything in terminal emulator and when i went to visionary to perm root it said i had to temp root my device first, when i try to temp root with visionary the program keeps flashing for a few minutes, then nothing... anything I can do with the S being off already? The "super user" program is in my programs already also... can't figure it out
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When you try to use root access is it not allowing it? Open up something like root explorer that asks for root access and see if it works. If it does then it sounds like it worked.
No it's not even though I have S off and did all the commands in terminal, I tried using Rom Manager, Titanium etc.. other root programs it says I need to root my phone first...
King350z said:
No it's not even though I have S off and did all the commands in terminal, I tried using Rom Manager, Titanium etc.. other root programs it says I need to root my phone first...
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Do you have the SuperUser icon?
bootloader? Here's the root guide
What bootloader do you have?
0.86.0000 seems to make some rooting methods difficult if not completely ineffective.
Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-995549.html
It was seamless for me.
**I am not responsible for any consequences of you playing with your phone.**
thepza said:
What bootloader do you have?
0.86.0000 seems to make some rooting methods difficult if not completely ineffective.
Follow these instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-995549.html
It was seamless for me.
**I am not responsible for any consequences of you playing with your phone.**
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All phones come with the .86.xxxx bootloader, you cannot load the .85.xxxx bootloader to the phone till after one has rooted and s-off'd the phone.
as quoted from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14573409&postcount=15
there are two ways to root our phones.
1) root.sh, regardless of what VISIONary or root.sh package you use. This will only root phones with good eMMCs. If your phone doesn't root via this method, then you have a bad eMMC and shouldn't root your phone.
2) ./gfree, regardless of what VISIONary or ./gfree package you use. This will root your phone regardless if you have a good or bad chip. you are setting yourself up to be royally screwed down the road, if you use root.sh it fails multiple times. Then use ./gfree to root it.
you are correct in the assumption that ./gfree will root your phone no matter what. But it will brick you phone if you have a bad eMMC. It might not happen right away, it might not happen in a week, or a month. But it's coming. There are thousands of threads all over the webs of people with bricked phone who use ./gfree to root their devices with a bad eMMC. there are significantly less threads of people who use root.sh and have bricked their phones.
advising someone to use ./gfree after they've admitted that root.sh didn't work, multiple times, w/o a fair warning is ignorant and not really helping anyone. a rooted phone is nice, a bricked device is totally different....
Yes I do and s off, but no root access and visionary wont root it after I successfully temp rooted, then booted did terminal emulator, wen I went to perm root it said I had to temp root first
neidlinger said:
Do you have the SuperUser icon?
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King350z said:
Yes I do and s off, but no root access and visionary wont root it after I successfully temp rooted, then booted did terminal emulator, wen I went to perm root it said I had to temp root first
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settings > applications > all > search for super user > delete the icon > reboot the phone > try visionary again.
Try that, it should help.
neidlinger said:
1) root.sh, regardless of what VISIONary or root.sh package you use. This will only root phones with good eMMCs. If your phone doesn't root via this method, then you have a bad eMMC and shouldn't root your phone.
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Not true. Visionary doesn't permaroot for all of the good eMMCs. Verify which eMMC you have. If you don't have ADB set up, then temp root (although you're having problems with that currently) and then in Terminal Emulator:
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That will report out the name of the chip you have. SEM=good.
delete the icon or uninstall the program, then try to temp root again with visionary and go through the steps?
King350z said:
delete the icon or uninstall the program, then try to temp root again with visionary and go through the steps?
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delete Super User from the Application menu, via the settings. Then try to temp root / perma root again.
thepza said:
Not true. Visionary doesn't permaroot for all of the good eMMCs. Verify which eMMC you have. If you don't have ADB set up, then temp root (although you're having problems with that currently) and then in Terminal Emulator:
cat /sys/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.2/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/name
That will report out the name of the chip you have. SEM=good.
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you have no clue what i'm saying.
VISIONary will not perma root a phone at all. You must manually turn s-off. You need to do that one of two ways. Either with the root.sh or the ./gfree method. both of which use VISIONary in their independent process. root.sh will not root bad eMMC phones. ./gfree will root either or without a problem.
will try it thanks, I don't know if it makes a diff but wheni open visionary now while temp rooting it just flashes for a few minutes?
neidlinger said:
delete Super User from the Application menu, via the settings. Then try to temp root / perma root again.
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King350z said:
will try it thanks, I don't know if it makes a diff but wheni open visionary now while temp rooting it just flashes for a few minutes?
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That's why i said earlier to reboot after you delete the superuser.apk. It will clean all of the current cache out.
Thank you for the help, will try it out when i get a chance later tonight or tomorrow, hope it works
So I never actually rooted my mytouch 4g because the temp root for Visionary r14 always worked for my Titanium backups. Over the last month or so, though, I've kept trying to temp root (even with trying r12 and r14, and even with loading and reloading and retrying etc.) without success. Figured I'd hit up XDA to see if anyone had an idea with regard to how to either temp/perm root without Visionary.
Cheers,
Jeff
There is a sticky thread for rooting. Should be able to help you.
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Were you updated to android 2.3.4?
delyorik said:
So I never actually rooted my mytouch 4g because the temp root for Visionary r14 always worked for my Titanium backups. Over the last month or so, though, I've kept trying to temp root (even with trying r12 and r14, and even with loading and reloading and retrying etc.) without success. Figured I'd hit up XDA to see if anyone had an idea with regard to how to either temp/perm root without Visionary.
Cheers,
Jeff
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wrong section, but did u try the gfree method and also as it was mentioned, did u update to 2.3.4?
Still on 2.2.1 (hasn't changed since I got the phone). No, I didn't try gfree... its instructions state to use Visionary to temp root and, as I mentioned in the first post (well, and the thread subject), Visionary isn't working to temp root my phone anymore, which is why I'm totally perplexed as to where to begin.
theinitial21 said:
wrong section, but did u try the gfree method and also as it was mentioned, did u update to 2.3.4?
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Temp-root for Froyo - try SuperOneClick.
delyorik said:
Still on 2.2.1 (hasn't changed since I got the phone). No, I didn't try gfree... its instructions state to use Visionary to temp root and, as I mentioned in the first post (well, and the thread subject), Visionary isn't working to temp root my phone anymore, which is why I'm totally perplexed as to where to begin.
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Try this guide:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_myTouch_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
Stop just before "Flashing CyanogenMod" and you'll be perm-rooted with stock and S-OFF.
So I just unmounted my sd card and tried Visionary r14's temp root again. It worked. I also remounted my sd card and am running my Titanium backup again. CMSTLIST, I'll most likely end up perm-rooting my phone with the info you posted earlier, but for now, I'm good to go.
Cheers, folks.
Jeff/Dely