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temp root with visionary and z4 problem?

for some reason.. whenever I do temp root with visionary or z4... It says its rooting.. then my phone "restarts" does the sprint 4g slaph screen and gets stuck on the big 4G logo...
I ran visionary when I first got the shift(temp root to run titanium backup) but now it's not working. anyone know why?

I tried z4 and visionary+ and it makes my phone run very slow. R ran seepu and saw that the cpu usage at max all the time. My phone got hot.
I want to root for the wifi hotspot but I'm afraid of messing up the perm root and bricking my phone, so temp root would be ideal, but it isn't really working. Am i missing something?

Its pretty hard to brick this phone...
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when i was rooting my shift z4 wouldn't work for me at all. it did the exact same thing you're describing, temp root>reboot>no root. visionary worked like a charm both times i've rooted this (i was having second thoughts on keeping it so i flashed it stock one night when i was drunk). anyways, if you follow the instructions line by line and copy/paste the code to adb shell it's a pretty painless process. you can root, backup wimax keys, and install clockwork recovery in a matter of about 20 minutes. everyone is nervous their first time... but it's really not difficult. the biggest problems i had was getting the usb drivers to install correctly (win7 x64) and getting a good copy of visionary. other than that, it's easy.
what i'm really trying to say is, i would suggest just perm rooting your device... with root and titanium you can delete all the crap you don't like (ie. kindle, amazon, nfl or nascar) and it makes it easier to work with. you can also OC/UV the stock rom for an even sweeter experience.

Yup, Perma-rooted. Got help in the Shift IRC, they are very nice ppl.

I was having difficulty with the ordinary Temproot option of Visionary (it kept rebooting and slowing down instead), so I instead tried Temproot on Boot. It worked great just now--I'm hoping it continues to do so.

Visionary and Z4root
I am unable to find this in the Android market, is it safe to search for the .apk's for both and install?

This should get you on the right track...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953

HolyShift said:
This should get you on the right track...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
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Perfect! Thanks for the quick reply.

I sometimes have the same problem with both Visionary+ and Z4Root. I also notice, that when it fails to root, the app also disappears.
For me, If I reboot, the app comes back. If I try a second time, it always works.

[Q] Trouble Rooting and geting "SU" permissions Mytouch 4g. HELP!

This may sound stupid, but does anyone know how to root specifically a RED mytouch 4g?? Maybe the color is intimidating or something, but I have successfully rooted 6 mytouch 4g's and not run into any problems.. I spent a week on this one to no avail. Its running 2.2.1, software number 1.17.531.2, build number 1.17.531.2 CL277036. Is there a manual way without using visionary? It wont grant me permissions even after temp root. Thanks.

try using the gfree method which is in the development section. It seems thats the only way to root the newer mytouches.

Update: Tried every single forum that appeared in the first 10 pages of google for 50 different search terms, and frankly, I'm ****ing beat.. I found a few similar topic forums, but only ONE exact build number, and everything with the SAME EXACT SYMPTOMS.. Is there really nobody out there that has tackled this debockle? I'm not sure what to do at this point, am I doomed?? I'm not a noob with this phone, but I'm not a developer or a programmer either. Anyone got any alternative root methods, other that the visionary, or flashboot methods for the exact specs on my phone??

I'm having the same issue with my red MT4G, had it since Feb. 11 Was able to root but not able to get the s-off same build and software as yours. Help Please!

tim4w5 said:
I'm having the same issue with my red MT4G, had it since Feb. 11 Was able to root but not able to get the s-off same build and software as yours. Help Please!
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Thats weird, I achieved s=off, using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
But I can't get superuser permissions to flash the older version of the bootloader, or use gfree. What did you use to root it?

Are these MT4Gs completely stock and out of the box? When I rooted a friend's device, VISIONary wouldn't even temproot at first. He later uninstalled some app and tried VISIONary again and temproot stuck, so maybe something else on the device is getting in the way? Either that or HTC incorporated some fix, we'd need more people with brand new MT4Gs to confirm.

gfree issues
I seem to be having the same issue but when I go to "chmod 777 gfree" I get the ./gfree: permission denied error

bvince05 said:
I seem to be having the same issue but when I go to "chmod 777 gfree" I get the ./gfree: permission denied error
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Temp root with visionary then try again. Make sure fastboot is disabled before doing it. If it doesn't temp root try an older version of visionary. I used a combo of gfree method and visionary to get root and s off
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EDIT: i replied to this while half asleep so figured i would be a little more clear.
i had the gfree permission denied error you got. so temp rooted with visionary(latest) but just froze up my phone. tried a older version and it temp rooted fine. went in to ADB got SU and threw the chmod command at it again and it went through.
hope this helps, not 100% sure it went through because of what i did but its worth a shot.

jdkoren said:
Are these MT4Gs completely stock and out of the box? When I rooted a friend's device, VISIONary wouldn't even temproot at first. He later uninstalled some app and tried VISIONary again and temproot stuck, so maybe something else on the device is getting in the way? Either that or HTC incorporated some fix, we'd need more people with brand new MT4Gs to confirm.
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I've tried stock out of the box, used it for a while, got s=off, and it stuck even after factory resetting the phone between trying various different methods.
I agree with you regarding a patch of some sort on the software though. I've found this issue on 2 red htc glaciers now.
And although It's new, and shipped with 2.2.1, a buddy of mine goes through them like candy, and I've rooted every single one of them, no problem. even when they started shipping with 2.2.1 it wasnt an issue. So I think it's the newer manufacture build number etc with the red ones..

mustk1ll20 said:
Temp root with visionary then try again. Make sure fastboot is disabled before doing it. If it doesn't temp root try an older version of visionary. I used a combo of gfree method and visionary to get root and s off
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EDIT: i replied to this while half asleep so figured i would be a little more clear.
i had the gfree permission denied error you got. so temp rooted with visionary(latest) but just froze up my phone. tried a older version and it temp rooted fine. went in to ADB got SU and threw the chmod command at it again and it went through.
hope this helps, not 100% sure it went through because of what i did but its worth a shot.
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I have not tried that yet. Where can I find an older version of visionary? I looked for it on their website, but can't seem to find anything but the current version. (maybe I'm not looking hard enough) but.. Hopefully this will work

think this is the one i used. should be R11. may have been updated though, just got the link from another root method that says it r11.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7C2BMH3O

It's definitely r11, I'll try this as soon as I get home. thanks!

No problem, hope it works for you.
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I dont think It's working. I installed it, then reboot my phone, then ran the app, and At first It looked really REALLY unstable and kept flashing and doing weird things, so I rebooted again, ran it, and now it looks like it's not doing anything at all. How long did it take for your phone to say root successful, maybe I'm just being impatient.

thats what mine did. Just let it do its thing. If its to unstable to put in your commands use adb. I used adb from start to finish just cuz I find it easier.
Didn't take long. It did flash a black screen things like that. But just follow the guide you were using to a T and once you get temp root it shouldn't be a problem from there
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I'm kicking myself in the face for not documenting my method I used. I finally did it, but in such a weird way, I'm not sure exactly WHAT it was. I installed visionary 11, uninstalled r14, uninstalled superuser, and ran r11. out of frustration, I scared up some old methods for rooting 2.2, and installed z4 root.. That made it to the second stage, but froze there. So I RE-installed visionary r14, achieved a temproot, and from there flashed gfree, etc.. and eventually stuck a permaroot with s=off.. I apologize for not figuring out exactly what I was doing wrong, or what I did right to solve the problem.

****kkkkk man your slacking -______- I was looking forward to the answer I'm going crazy as well I rooted 3mt4gs in like 5min but my brothers is driving me nuts >=O
carlosdavampire said:
I'm kicking myself in the face for not documenting my method I used. I finally did it, but in such a weird way, I'm not sure exactly WHAT it was. I installed visionary 11, uninstalled r14, uninstalled superuser, and ran r11. out of frustration, I scared up some old methods for rooting 2.2, and installed z4 root.. That made it to the second stage, but froze there. So I RE-installed visionary r14, achieved a temproot, and from there flashed gfree, etc.. and eventually stuck a permaroot with s=off.. I apologize for not figuring out exactly what I was doing wrong, or what I did right to solve the problem.
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sh root.sh
Im getting passed everything, but when i try to run sh root.sh it say can't open root.sh Someone please help me.

I had troubles rooting my Red Mytouch until I came across this.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995549
Follow this to a T and then do yourself a favor and downgrade your Hboot to 0.85.2007

I rooted mine. Go here. http://theunlockr.com/2010/12/10/ho...s-off-on-the-t-mobile-mytouch-4g-htc-glacier/ took me a bit to figure it out. But on this link it tells you to update if you arnt 2.21 or higher or if you haven't received the outa update. Well I did but when I tryed this method with out the update it didn't work so update anyways. IT WORKS!
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Have I managed Perm Root with this much ease? Visionary+ Question

About 3 hours ago, I won a Desire Z (wheeey!) at the HTC London meetup. Naturally, I came straight here after the help I got in January rooting my Desire.
I used the Visionary method and obtained temp root status, and then attempted perm root, which seemed to work. All of the guides I have read include a bunch of steps after this, one of which included deleting Visionary, which I then did. I just turned the phone off, took the battery out for a bit and then turned it back on. I still have the Superuser icon and the Terminal Emulator indicates that I have root access... is that it then? It's that simple?
Please tell me if I've done anything wrong, as I don't want to flash Cyanogen and Clockwork Recovery if it's all going to go to hell on me. Any advice or confirmation on whether or not I've obtained perm root would be lovely.
Oh, my firmware version is 1.34.405... etc. Is this simply the last version which allows for such easy root?
EDIT: Bugger, didn't realise what forum I was in, please delete this and I'll pop it in the Q&A.

accordingly you should have probably only achieved temp root. you'll probably lose access later when you restart it again.

One of the stickies for this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025135

No. I thought same thing when I did that. I gained temp root then 3 simple commands and BAM! S-OFF and all
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the first desire z i got was right when it was released and at that time the only method that was available was the visionary method... and although some people were having problems with it the perm root method worked fine for me and i had a perm root desire z for over a month (then i sat on the phone and broke it lol)... my understanding is that visionary can give u perm root but by doing that it will modify a number of system files that should not be modified and that worked for some people and for others it just bricked their phones... personally i would do a hard reset of the phone to erase any damage visionary might have done to the phone system files before putting any rom on it (CM or other)... then get perm root and S-OFF the clean way using ADB ...

returned replacement phone... PLEASE HELP -- NEED TEMP ROOT UNDER STOCK FROYO NO ADB

OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???

Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did

use the "how to root.sh root your phone".
i used that in the T-Mobile store to root my before i left the store when i bought the device.

Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo?
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The phone I restored to stock Froyo was my old phone... It was rooted already. I just wanted to restore it to a factory condition so I wouldn't have any problems returning my old, and rooted/heavily modded phone to TMO.
So I just took the .img that you can download from this thread LINK
Then you just make sure it is on the root of your sdcard, then boot into hboot by holding the volume down while pressing the power button. It will boot and think it is an "update", but it will just restore it to the stock.
Obviously this cannot be done from 2.3.4 because it realizes it is an old version... If you have a phone with stock 2.3.4 you have to trick it into letting you downgrade from gingerbread to froyo using this thread: LINK
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Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did
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That's great! But I told them about the fact I solved my wifi problem.... Besides, I already tried to shake them down for a Sensation... no go.
The Slide version looks great... Better camera and faster.... But for now, I will stick with the 4G regular unless I get another issue....
My solution (in another thread) to my wifi problem requires you select "wifi only" under the wifi calling app. If this becomes really problematic and inconvenient, I will call them back... Will try to get a Sensation again or a 4G Slide then.

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OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Go to youtube type gfree mytouch 4g look for author Mackster248 video I would link but I'm a noob
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Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.

I think Visionary screws things up pretty badly.... I found this out the hard way.
I think I have done a hard reset (removed battery + factory reset) about 8 times so far.
I have been using a combination of Visionary, followed by a root.sh script from this link. Then I do get root.... but it is tremendously precarious.
I then uninstall Visionary, use ADBwireless as I have root now and proceed to follow the Cyanogen instructions.....
But then... whenever I have to run psneuter, it boots me out of the adb shell and I have to start everything all over again.... I have to do a factory reset to get Visionary to work that one f*cking precious time.
I just tried it again just now (I have been modifying steps and things to get it to work)... And now... every time I do a factory reset and run visionary, I don't get a Superuser Root... I get "UNKNOWN USER ROOT" in the emulator.... I have know idea what that means, but it is not root....
I have been at this for days and losing my mind. I cannot believe I can't root this phone.... especially now in Froyo... Without a god**mn USB CABLE!!!

Jack_R1 said:
Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.
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z4 root doesn't work with the MT4G...

Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.

syntropic said:
Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.
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no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.

saranhai said:
no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.
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Thanks... and for whatever reason... even though I think I rooted my phone successfully, I cannot restore any of my nandroid backups... I get an error in Rom Manager.... and while in recovery, I get an error of "files missing".
Now I cannot even boot the phone. It is stuck at the myTouch Splash.
I am so f*cking tired of doing this... Nothing has worked--
I cannot believe I reset this phone to Froyo in anticipation of sending it back....
I ended up keeping it because it had the better screen and because I thought I had solved my wifi problem...
I am without a phone at all at this point.

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syntropic said:
OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Have you tried gfree?

+1 it might be your only option.
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And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.

mackster248 said:
And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.
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I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
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syntropic said:
I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
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Thanks for the link, yes you should write a guide, it will help others in your situation. I didn't even ask, the CSR offered the MTS4G. Glad you finally got it figured out, it can make you crazy LOL

failed root need help

So on my girlfreindd my touch 4g I installed and ran invisonary r14 at first I checked temp root on startup and mount system and clicked temproot now.....the su Popped up but phone restarted before I can click allow. After rebooting it was very slow and then I went back into it and click permanentroot but says to do temproot .....so I did it agian an after rebooted clicked permanentboot and restarted but my phone is not rooted....su is installed and I have Apps that say its not rooted so when I try again visionary just flashes and goes back to the apparently so now it wont even temproot to permanentroot and su is installdd and it says its not root so I can't un root so is there anyway of doing this or am I stucl

First off all : VISIONary.apk is a one click root tool but the security flags on our phones turn off the SU ability and remove root commands upon rebooting.
Second of all : you really didn't search this because every "root method" i've seen mentions using one of two different method to root our phones. Either ./gfree or root.sh. The search button works wonders
Third and final : I'm assuming since you gained SU access via VISIONary.apk you are still rocking 2.2.x. You can use the links in my signature for both methods. However i highly suggest you read the newcomers thread first.

Did you search, read before posting? If you are on gingerbread 2.3(which I'm pretty sure you are) you can't root with visionary.
If you're still on froyo 2.2, there's a lot of how to's here and on google.
EDIT:^^^^exactly what he said.
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Quoted myself. Ignore.

Well currently It is 2.2.1 (Froyo) but thank you neidlinger, I will try both of those, but can you guys tell me how safe this is? When I rooted my other phones it was easy and painless (samsung GS phones) But I never rooted an HTC phone so is there anyway these guides can break the phone permanently?

tanner2007 said:
Well currently It is 2.2.1 (Froyo) but thank you neidlinger, I will try both of those, but can you guys tell me how safe this is? When I rooted my other phones it was easy and painless (samsung GS phones) But I never rooted an HTC phone so is there anyway these guides can break the phone permanently?
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Its very easy and very safe if you follow the directions to the T. It takes me 5 minutes tops to root and gain s-off with the visionary, root.sh method. I have never messed up.
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HTC phones are very easy to root, you just need to follow directions and obtain S-off. once Security is off, rooting and flashing is painless.