Alright, so I doubt this goes here but it wont let me post to the perm root thread so.
I have flashed everything properly according to the steps in the Perm Root Thread, all the MD5 Sums come up correct. I load up the bootloader like it says in Step 6 but instead of it being S-OFF it remains S-ON. I went ahead and tried to get the perm root from both Visionary and Z4 to take, but no dice.
Any ideas?
Kokoroiki said:
Alright, so I doubt this goes here but it wont let me post to the perm root thread so.
I have flashed everything properly according to the steps in the Perm Root Thread, all the MD5 Sums come up correct. I load up the bootloader like it says in Step 6 but instead of it being S-OFF it remains S-ON. I went ahead and tried to get the perm root from both Visionary and Z4 to take, but no dice.
Any ideas?
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Unistall Superuser and then temp root with Visionary. Once temp root takes run perm root. Then reboot in the bootloader.
Yeah I have tried that a few times and it still won't take.
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I managed to fix this issue on my own. Wound up restoring the phone to the factory hboot and re-flashing everything.
I was able to get my phone to s-off permanently but its not rooted so I assume its partially rooted. When I try to us Rom Manager to install ClockworkMod it tells me the phone is not rooted. Do I have to push the root using ADB? Also to explain I used VISIONary+ version 14 with Astro to root the phone if that helps any. Now, when I try to perm root the phone with VISIONary+ it tells me I have to temp root and when I do that again it just stays in a loop, and doesn't really root it. I was able to get SU privileges in the beginning but not anymore.
I googled this issue but to much information was thrown out there so I do apologize for asking what may be a repeating question
I have the same issue.. I finally got s-off to stick and now i cant perm root plus i am not familiar using adb
Yeah I haven't bothered with pushing perm root with adb only because I want to make sure that this is common. Adb is actually really easy to use. As long as you follow and type the code exactly then all will be great.
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So I never actually rooted my mytouch 4g because the temp root for Visionary r14 always worked for my Titanium backups. Over the last month or so, though, I've kept trying to temp root (even with trying r12 and r14, and even with loading and reloading and retrying etc.) without success. Figured I'd hit up XDA to see if anyone had an idea with regard to how to either temp/perm root without Visionary.
Cheers,
Jeff
There is a sticky thread for rooting. Should be able to help you.
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Were you updated to android 2.3.4?
delyorik said:
So I never actually rooted my mytouch 4g because the temp root for Visionary r14 always worked for my Titanium backups. Over the last month or so, though, I've kept trying to temp root (even with trying r12 and r14, and even with loading and reloading and retrying etc.) without success. Figured I'd hit up XDA to see if anyone had an idea with regard to how to either temp/perm root without Visionary.
Cheers,
Jeff
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wrong section, but did u try the gfree method and also as it was mentioned, did u update to 2.3.4?
Still on 2.2.1 (hasn't changed since I got the phone). No, I didn't try gfree... its instructions state to use Visionary to temp root and, as I mentioned in the first post (well, and the thread subject), Visionary isn't working to temp root my phone anymore, which is why I'm totally perplexed as to where to begin.
theinitial21 said:
wrong section, but did u try the gfree method and also as it was mentioned, did u update to 2.3.4?
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Temp-root for Froyo - try SuperOneClick.
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Still on 2.2.1 (hasn't changed since I got the phone). No, I didn't try gfree... its instructions state to use Visionary to temp root and, as I mentioned in the first post (well, and the thread subject), Visionary isn't working to temp root my phone anymore, which is why I'm totally perplexed as to where to begin.
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Try this guide:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/TMobile_myTouch_4G:_Full_Update_Guide
Stop just before "Flashing CyanogenMod" and you'll be perm-rooted with stock and S-OFF.
So I just unmounted my sd card and tried Visionary r14's temp root again. It worked. I also remounted my sd card and am running my Titanium backup again. CMSTLIST, I'll most likely end up perm-rooting my phone with the info you posted earlier, but for now, I'm good to go.
Cheers, folks.
Jeff/Dely
OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did
use the "how to root.sh root your phone".
i used that in the T-Mobile store to root my before i left the store when i bought the device.
Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo?
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The phone I restored to stock Froyo was my old phone... It was rooted already. I just wanted to restore it to a factory condition so I wouldn't have any problems returning my old, and rooted/heavily modded phone to TMO.
So I just took the .img that you can download from this thread LINK
Then you just make sure it is on the root of your sdcard, then boot into hboot by holding the volume down while pressing the power button. It will boot and think it is an "update", but it will just restore it to the stock.
Obviously this cannot be done from 2.3.4 because it realizes it is an old version... If you have a phone with stock 2.3.4 you have to trick it into letting you downgrade from gingerbread to froyo using this thread: LINK
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Marquis63 said:
Sorry can"t help on your problem, but how did you restore stock froyo? Had the same replacement prob, sent it back to T-mobile, called CS told them about issues, they're sending a MT4GSlide, call CS you might get lucky like I did
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That's great! But I told them about the fact I solved my wifi problem.... Besides, I already tried to shake them down for a Sensation... no go.
The Slide version looks great... Better camera and faster.... But for now, I will stick with the 4G regular unless I get another issue....
My solution (in another thread) to my wifi problem requires you select "wifi only" under the wifi calling app. If this becomes really problematic and inconvenient, I will call them back... Will try to get a Sensation again or a 4G Slide then.
syntropic said:
OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Go to youtube type gfree mytouch 4g look for author Mackster248 video I would link but I'm a noob
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Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.
I think Visionary screws things up pretty badly.... I found this out the hard way.
I think I have done a hard reset (removed battery + factory reset) about 8 times so far.
I have been using a combination of Visionary, followed by a root.sh script from this link. Then I do get root.... but it is tremendously precarious.
I then uninstall Visionary, use ADBwireless as I have root now and proceed to follow the Cyanogen instructions.....
But then... whenever I have to run psneuter, it boots me out of the adb shell and I have to start everything all over again.... I have to do a factory reset to get Visionary to work that one f*cking precious time.
I just tried it again just now (I have been modifying steps and things to get it to work)... And now... every time I do a factory reset and run visionary, I don't get a Superuser Root... I get "UNKNOWN USER ROOT" in the emulator.... I have know idea what that means, but it is not root....
I have been at this for days and losing my mind. I cannot believe I can't root this phone.... especially now in Froyo... Without a god**mn USB CABLE!!!
Jack_R1 said:
Z4Root is another app that might work on Froyo.
You can manually execute psneuter or rageagainstthecage from Terminal Emulator. Search Google, it'll guide you for both.
Or you could just not listen to CM Wiki, and use Visionary.
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z4 root doesn't work with the MT4G...
Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.
syntropic said:
Hey... I had a thought..
Since I have nandroid backups... If I get a Visionary root (if I can....), can I just restore my phone with one of them... I mean those backups are all simunlock, eng hboot, radio =111111111, etc. full root.
But... I thought I would ask so I do not have to do another 15 hard resets to figure out that it doesn't work.
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no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.
saranhai said:
no, because VISIONary.apk only gives root access, not S-off. S-off is needed to flash Clockworkmod Recovery, which is needed to flash the backups.
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Thanks... and for whatever reason... even though I think I rooted my phone successfully, I cannot restore any of my nandroid backups... I get an error in Rom Manager.... and while in recovery, I get an error of "files missing".
Now I cannot even boot the phone. It is stuck at the myTouch Splash.
I am so f*cking tired of doing this... Nothing has worked--
I cannot believe I reset this phone to Froyo in anticipation of sending it back....
I ended up keeping it because it had the better screen and because I thought I had solved my wifi problem...
I am without a phone at all at this point.
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OK.... I said f*ck it to the replacement phone.... DOn't want it... Can't root it... (besides I found out it had the ****ty screen that is manufactured in Taiwan, not China). Further, I want to root it now and I cannot do it with stock gingerbread. Sending back replacement phone today...
BUT....Unfortunately, I restored Froyo to my old phone. So now I have an unrooted phone, with Android 2.2.1.
But.... I STILL DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONNECT VIA USB TO USE ADB
I cannot use any wifi adb methods as they all require root.
I cannot use Visionary for temp root as the cyanogen root page wiki says it should be uninstalled.
Nonetheless, I copied all of the needed files to my sdcard, so I am ready....
BUT I NEED TEMP ROOT FROM THE EMULATOR.
Does anyone know how to get temp root for FROYO through the emulator only??.....OR, another Visionary type apk which will give me temp root???
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Have you tried gfree?
+1 it might be your only option.
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And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.
mackster248 said:
And to add to that, gfree doesn't exactly require ADB.
You can use that paid root app to manually push the necessary files into system>data>local.
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I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
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syntropic said:
I finally managed to do it. But it took a lot of trial and error.
I learned:
You can only be rely on exactly 1 temp root from visionary after a factory reset. Any more and you are getting lucky.
Visionary definitely should be uninstalled before following that guide.
I may make a guide after belabouring 17 hours to accomplish this.
I guess I am lucky... If TMO had sent me a phone with a good screen, I would have been tempted to keep that one. If I did, it would have been stock 2.3.4, and I would probably not have root yet.
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Thanks for the link, yes you should write a guide, it will help others in your situation. I didn't even ask, the CSR offered the MTS4G. Glad you finally got it figured out, it can make you crazy LOL
So on my girlfreindd my touch 4g I installed and ran invisonary r14 at first I checked temp root on startup and mount system and clicked temproot now.....the su Popped up but phone restarted before I can click allow. After rebooting it was very slow and then I went back into it and click permanentroot but says to do temproot .....so I did it agian an after rebooted clicked permanentboot and restarted but my phone is not rooted....su is installed and I have Apps that say its not rooted so when I try again visionary just flashes and goes back to the apparently so now it wont even temproot to permanentroot and su is installdd and it says its not root so I can't un root so is there anyway of doing this or am I stucl
First off all : VISIONary.apk is a one click root tool but the security flags on our phones turn off the SU ability and remove root commands upon rebooting.
Second of all : you really didn't search this because every "root method" i've seen mentions using one of two different method to root our phones. Either ./gfree or root.sh. The search button works wonders
Third and final : I'm assuming since you gained SU access via VISIONary.apk you are still rocking 2.2.x. You can use the links in my signature for both methods. However i highly suggest you read the newcomers thread first.
Did you search, read before posting? If you are on gingerbread 2.3(which I'm pretty sure you are) you can't root with visionary.
If you're still on froyo 2.2, there's a lot of how to's here and on google.
EDIT:^^^^exactly what he said.
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Quoted myself. Ignore.
Well currently It is 2.2.1 (Froyo) but thank you neidlinger, I will try both of those, but can you guys tell me how safe this is? When I rooted my other phones it was easy and painless (samsung GS phones) But I never rooted an HTC phone so is there anyway these guides can break the phone permanently?
tanner2007 said:
Well currently It is 2.2.1 (Froyo) but thank you neidlinger, I will try both of those, but can you guys tell me how safe this is? When I rooted my other phones it was easy and painless (samsung GS phones) But I never rooted an HTC phone so is there anyway these guides can break the phone permanently?
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Its very easy and very safe if you follow the directions to the T. It takes me 5 minutes tops to root and gain s-off with the visionary, root.sh method. I have never messed up.
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HTC phones are very easy to root, you just need to follow directions and obtain S-off. once Security is off, rooting and flashing is painless.