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I am running CM7 nightlies on my G2, a few days out dated because I have been insanely busy lately... But today in class my phone heated up insanely bad. Sizzled my finger on the metal back plate. I immediately ripped the battery out and let it cool. I think the battery bloated a little bit.
When I put it back in after cooling, all seems normal. The battery started out at 85% and drained to 44% during this. All I can think is that I charged it on the way home to top it off from about 50 to 85% battery, and then topped off a little more, bout ten minutes while at home. Got back to class and then it happened a few minutes later.
Also, I used SetCPU....BUT not overclocking, I had it stock speed, on demand governor, and screen off profile to 245mhz.
What could cause this? I called tmobile and they wanna swap out the phone itself because the battery is not currently bloated so it must be device related.
I am scared to let them swap it out, because I don't wanna revert my phone back to stock, and then have to root the new one. Are ALL G2's rootable? I don't want to risk getting a new one that can't be cracked
theratdude64 said:
I am running CM7 nightlies on my G2, a few days out dated because I have been insanely busy lately... But today in class my phone heated up insanely bad. Sizzled my finger on the metal back plate. I immediately ripped the battery out and let it cool. I think the battery bloated a little bit.
When I put it back in after cooling, all seems normal. The battery started out at 85% and drained to 44% during this. All I can think is that I charged it on the way home to top it off from about 50 to 85% battery, and then topped off a little more, bout ten minutes while at home. Got back to class and then it happened a few minutes later.
Also, I used SetCPU....BUT not overclocking, I had it stock speed, on demand governor, and screen off profile to 245mhz.
What could cause this? I called tmobile and they wanna swap out the phone itself because the battery is not currently bloated so it must be device related.
I am scared to let them swap it out, because I don't wanna revert my phone back to stock, and then have to root the new one. Are ALL G2's rootable? I don't want to risk getting a new one that can't be cracked
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That's really odd...maybe the phone had a defect or something but yes all G2s can be rooted/s-off since we haven't had any new updates from t-mobile to prevent us from rooting the phone
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That makes me feel better, if I have to replace.
They were going to call me in 20 minutes after I started charging it during the initial call, but they called my wife's Vibrant which never rang, I just got a voice mail notification They left message, and I have no way of calling that particular rep back in technical without going through the entire process over again But, it's still charging, went from about 35%-80% and it's not hot at all. I'm just very confused how this is an isolated thing.
I'm about to be gone from home for 5 weeks, and need my phone, Worst timing ever for this
theratdude64 said:
That makes me feel better, if I have to replace.
They were going to call me in 20 minutes after I started charging it during the initial call, but they called my wife's Vibrant which never rang, I just got a voice mail notification They left message, and I have no way of calling that particular rep back in technical without going through the entire process over again But, it's still charging, went from about 35%-80% and it's not hot at all. I'm just very confused how this is an isolated thing.
I'm about to be gone from home for 5 weeks, and need my phone, Worst timing ever for this
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Ah I see... anyways just tell the new rep, tell that you already called another rep and was about to give you a replacement but something happen or something... it will make the process faster. when will you leave? T-mobile can send you the replacement phone if you pay 20$ it will get to your house in 1-3 days rather than the normal 3-7 days
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I'm just wary to change the entire phone out and keep the part that scares me into the new one. If I have a problem, I'll call them. It seems to have been just that once. I'll be leaving in about a week probably, and phone is vital. so I hope I get this figured out.
Do NAND backups swap to new phones? Like just NAND this one how it is, and stick it onto my replacement? Or does it backup things specific to that exact phone?
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I'm just wary to change the entire phone out and keep the part that scares me into the new one. If I have a problem, I'll call them. It seems to have been just that once. I'll be leaving in about a week probably, and phone is vital. so I hope I get this figured out.
Do NAND backups swap to new phones? Like just NAND this one how it is, and stick it onto my replacement? Or does it backup things specific to that exact phone?
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Once you get your new replacement you have to reroot/S-off your phone again and flash clockwork. If you have any backups in your sd card just flash your backup and you will have the same stuff you had on your old phone.
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I know, I just mean are Nand's specific lol.
Full charged, no issues... so I'll just keep a really good eye on it. I'm just wondering WTF made it do that. I'm kinda wary to run setCPU now
theratdude64 said:
I know, I just mean are Nand's specific lol.
Full charged, no issues... so I'll just keep a really good eye on it. I'm just wondering WTF made it do that. I'm kinda wary to run setCPU now
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Lol ohh... well nand for g2 yes.
Lol maybe by chance you overclocked?
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I used to OC to 1.5ghz all the time but not in a long time I need it to get the best battery life possible these days
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I used to OC to 1.5ghz all the time but not in a long time I need it to get the best battery life possible these days
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Aha I see. Well what I do is I put it 1.5 ghz but on ondemand. Never gets hot at all but when I put it on profomance it heats up quickly. Lol have u tried MUIU? Its pretty good.
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Either the battery itself is fried, or some SOFTWARE you're running is responsible. Swapping out the phone itself is pointless. Try a WIPE and see if the problem doesn't come back. If it does, replace the BATTERY.
I didn't read if yo ugot it fixed, but check your battery status... liek what's been using that. I had that one time and like my email app for example used a **** load... I reflashed it and started it from new and it's fixed now.
exactly what is the point of overclocking on the G2?
I can tell why youd use SetCPU on the G1 but what is the point of doing it on the G2?
I really have failed to understand the purpose.
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exactly what is the point of overclocking on the G2?
I can tell why youd use SetCPU on the G1 but what is the point of doing it on the G2?
I really have failed to understand the purpose.
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What's the point in having leather seats, cloth works fine. Why thongs, granny panties get the job done.
Why overclock? Because we can
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TJBunch1228 said:
What's the point in having leather seats, cloth works fine. Why thongs, granny panties get the job done.
Why overclock? Because we can
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Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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+1 I do agree with that
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Oh ok...nuf sed! I am in agreement...
But if I see granny pants on any of my dates then...date is over!
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Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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For the record, tmobile concluded that it's hardware, not me *can't exactly say I have it fully rooted/modded* and the only reason I called them was that my wife used to work for verizon and it was a known issue that a certain battery style/make/whatever was known to have this exact issue. So she told me to call and ask if it was some known problem that I could tell them my serial to identify if my battery falls under those conditions. They said since it wasn't still bloated by the time I called them, it must be the phone. I talked them out of sending me a replacement... that I'll see if it comes back and immediately call them lol.
I haven't had the issue come back, I think I'm on Nightly 3, and I'm about to flash the latest but I want the battery more charged before I do so. I got like 3x the battery life today than I did the other day.
For whoever asked, I haven't tried MIUI, looks pretty interesting but I'm quite a die hard Cyanogen guy lol. I wish it came to the vibrant
THE GET RICH QUICK SCHEME:
1. Keep phone.
2. Keep using phone the way it is.
3. Induce it to blow up.
4. Sue HTC
5. ? ? ?
6. Profit
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THE QUESTION MARKS LOL... remember the "droid x that blew up while I was talking on it and it cut my face/I smashed my droid x I want a refund trolol" guy?
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This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
Well that doesn't sound good! I haven't had anything like that. Have you checked the power intake?
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steve228uk said:
Well that doesn't sound good! I haven't had anything like that. Have you checked the power intake?
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Good point, where can I check the power intake?
Thanks
mwatson said:
This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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Mine got really hot the first day I used it (27/4)...I was just checking out features and installing a few apps. I rebooted it after the battery was fully charged and it's been fine ever since.
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I have the exact same problem, it happens especially when I play any games or intensive appliaction. The battery drains and it gets hot next to the camera, I suspect this is where the cpu lives. Do you think its because its rooted? because I rooted it as soon as I got it so I dont know what it was like before.
And as I am away from the uk for the next six weeks I cant even send it back to O2
No nothing to do with root, mine was same before and after, pretty normal to get hot on some demanding apps.
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I have the exact same problem, it happens especially when I play any games or intensive appliaction. The battery drains and it gets hot next to the camera, I suspect this is where the cpu lives. Do you think its because its rooted? because I rooted it as soon as I got it so I dont know what it was like before.
And as I am away from the uk for the next six weeks I cant even send it back to O2
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No nothing to do with root, mine was same before and after, pretty normal to get hot on some demanding apps.
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And i thought i was alone...
It gets really hot sometimes though, not to the extent of burnt plastic smell but it gets pretty uncomfortable touching around lens at the back.
I've been going through this this morning. It seems that the CPU loves to go up to 1.2GHz even if it doesn't need to be that high (and it stays there). Also there I've also been noticing through ADB shell that their are a few niggles. For example the wi-fi sharing process can start without even being activated.
For example this was a ADB shell top taken while running Cordy downclocked to 800MHz in setcpu. The phone was a tiny bit warm but only by the camera (where the CPU is). Basically, this just shows that if you are playing a game, nothing else is going on so the CPU shouldn't be going up to 1200MHz. And it plays the same as when it isn't underclocked.
I'm currently assisting Pulser with investigating this until he gets his SGS2.
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I've been going through this this morning. It seems that the CPU loves to go up to 1.2GHz even if it doesn't need to be that high (and it stays there). Also there I've also been noticing through ADB shell that their are a few niggles. For example the wi-fi sharing process can start without even being activated.
I'm currently assisting Pulser with investigating this until he gets his SGS2.
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My phone gets very hot at time too...
I also noticed wifi sharing starting up by itself. Yesterday it started by itself and used 10% battery usage even though I had wifi switched off the entire time..
BoogWeed said:
My phone gets very hot at time too...
I also noticed wifi sharing starting up by itself. Yesterday it started by itself and used 10% battery usage even though I had wifi switched off the entire time..
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Do you have root and Titanium/MyBackup Pro?
If you do, freeze anything that mentions wifi sharing, unless you are going to use wifi hotspot and kies air a lot.
mwatson said:
This thing gets hot! Just been configuring launcher pro which took around 5 minutes and wasn't data intensive and the back of the phone is really hot. So much that I can smell the plastic heating up! The battery drained real fast during the process too.
Anyone else experiencing this ?
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I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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Find the nearest Apple store near you.
The only time i had this was when it waa both charging, in a case and playing a big game...
Im currently chatting, listening to a live stream, charging and posting this, no problem with heat at all..
Perhaps its a problem with some specific phones
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SgtDutchyNL said:
The only time i had this was when it waa both charging, in a case and playing a big game...
Im currently chatting, listening to a live stream, charging and posting this, no problem with heat at all..
Perhaps its a problem with some specific phones
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Or with some specific games.
cmd512 said:
Find the nearest Apple store near you.
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LMAO
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hpsauce37 said:
I posted on this a few days ago..
My phone got so hot that it shut itself down!
since that i have done a complete reset of the phone and started from scratch again....100% better.
The problem as i see it is with all the 'tinkering' that we users do. All the additional launchers etc and widgets that you add really seem to mess the phone up!
My advice is keep the phone as samsung intended it...or at least change very little. You will see far improved battery life and none of the over heating problems.
Just my opinion but its worked for me.
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that's just not true.
Mine gets hot aswell .. it's random sometimes but usualy with playing games etc. I suspect it has something to do with the samsung drivers/software and not our tinkering.
Bugs bugs bugs...
Mine also gets fairly hot, which might be a little uncomfortable - but that's the sacrifice you make when you get such a high powered device in such a small space.
Well,amount of apps/tinkering/etc has nothing to do with the phone getting got UNLESS an installed app in messing something up.I have heard many such cases when a rogue app made the CPU run at 100% in different phones.If that's the case you have to find and remove the app.I'd suggest OS monitor for finding it.Never happened to me though!
What's more,it's normal for it to get more hot than your average phone,as it carries more power under the hood and has nothing to help it dissipate the generated heat,as it's plastic.The Desire HD does a very good job with managing heat and I have never exceeded 40 C,even when gaming with an overclock at 1.8GHz and performance governor.Not saying the DHD is better,but Samsung wouldn't have left something like this if it would damage the phone.So I tend to believe that it's designed to get hot.
Mine has overheated twice.
Both times, when trying to pair itself automatically to my car kit. The phone got really really hot (i noticed it warming my leg in my jeans pocket) and needed the battery pulling out to reset it. When it started back up, the running temp was nearly 50 degrees (in standby, it runs at about 27)
Hasn't done it since though, just keeping my eye on it!
After having my phone for around a month, I (yesterday) decided to flip the switch and flashed myself cm10.1 and the latest franco kernel. Just now, I reached to pick up my phone (after letting it idle for around an hour and a half in my pocket), and burned my fingers. The thing is running at 46.5c when the highest it used to get for me was maybe 40-42 (watching a movie, or charging).
What do you guys think the cause is, and my best way for fixing (I dont want to go back to stock, but I will if I have to).
Thanks,
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After having my phone for around a month, I (yesterday) decided to flip the switch and flashed myself cm10.1 and the latest franco kernel. Just now, I reached to pick up my phone (after letting it idle for around an hour and a half in my pocket), and burned my fingers. The thing is running at 46.5c when the highest it used to get for me was maybe 40-42 (watching a movie, or charging).
What do you guys think the cause is, and my best way for fixing (I dont want to go back to stock, but I will if I have to).
Thanks,
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your device isnt overheating nor did it burn your fingers. human body temp is 37C, and it was sitting in your pocket at that temp, insulated, keeping warm. 46.5C will not burn you, ever. it could feel warm because the heat is escaping from the glass back to cool off. thats what its supposed to do. you have a quad core device, it WILL get warm.
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your device isnt overheating nor did it burn your fingers. human body temp is 37C, and it was sitting in your pocket at that temp, insulated, keeping warm. 46.5C will not burn you, ever. it could feel warm because the heat is escaping from the glass back to cool off. thats what its supposed to do. you have a quad core device, it WILL get warm.
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I have a Sony Xperia e.. it gets overheated while charging.. I don't know why???
Syed.Zeshan said:
I have a Sony Xperia e.. it gets overheated while charging.. I don't know why???
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is this a serious statement or sarcasm? lol.
while charging the battery can get hot, and the device can get really warm, especially if its being used at the slightest bit. besides, what is overheated, i mean what temp does it reach, battery and cpu?
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is this a serious statement or sarcasm? lol.
while charging the battery can get hot, and the device can get really warm, especially if its being used at the slightest bit. besides, what is overheated, i mean what temp does it reach, battery and cpu?
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my phone is currently charging and I'm posting this via phone.. so this is in no way sarcasm . it's showing battery temperature as 39 degree Celsius ( checked through *#*#4636#*#*) .. my fingers can feel the heat while I type this... though the heat is not too high but it's not negligible also.
Syed.Zeshan said:
my phone is currently charging and I'm posting this via phone.. so this is in no way sarcasm . it's showing battery temperature as 39 degree Celsius ( checked through *#*#4636#*#*) .. my fingers can feel the heat while I type this... though the heat is not too high but it's not negligible also.
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think about this.. your body is 37C. 39C is a bump warmer. since your fingers are extremeties, they will be slightly cooler than the rest of your body. since they are a little cooler, your phone will feel warmer. but in reality, your battery temp is just normal, even relatively cool for being on the charger and being used.
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your device isnt overheating nor did it burn your fingers. human body temp is 37C, and it was sitting in your pocket at that temp, insulated, keeping warm. 46.5C will not burn you, ever. it could feel warm because the heat is escaping from the glass back to cool off. thats what its supposed to do. you have a quad core device, it WILL get warm.
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Okay, I didn't mean literally 'burn', you're right. My point was that I picked it up and was shocked (figuratively ) by how hot it was.
Again, for the last entire month my phone (on stock) has never reached near this temperature before, even when It was actively running.
[Oh and jacket pocket, it wasnt on me. My point was that it was in a cool, dry, place not charging, and I wasnt using it].
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Okay, I didn't mean literally 'burn', you're right. My point was that I picked it up and was shocked (figuratively ) by how hot it was.
Again, for the last entire month my phone (on stock) has never reached near this temperature before, even when It was actively running.
[Oh and jacket pocket, it wasnt on me. My point was that it was in a cool, dry, place not charging, and I wasnt using it].
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its still a normal temp. tell me, since its spring, has it gotten warmer in your area this past month?
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think about this.. your body is 37C. 39C is a bump warmer. since your fingers are extremeties, they will be slightly cooler than the rest of your body. since they are a little cooler, your phone will feel warmer. but in reality, your battery temp is just normal, even relatively cool for being on the charger and being used.
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fine but whatever it is its rather annoying.. my other phones doesn't get overheated as this does.. anyways thanks for reply
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its still a normal temp. tell me, since its spring, has it gotten warmer in your area this past month?
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Okay, so saying that makes me stop worrying its going to blow up (happened to my friend's moto milestone back in the day), but it's still a new occurrence to me, which cooincidentally happened right after a changed both my rom and my kernel from stock.
The office aircon is a breezy 24c no matter what day it is .
I was leaning more towards this questions, that I gathered from when i glossed over the two respective threads, but dont understand well enough to decide or check if they're relevant:
-could it be that the rom or the kernel overclocked my phone and thats why its running hotter?
-maybe theres a wake-lock (or partial lock or whatever its called), that had my phone on though it was being left alone?
-did the kernel mess with the radio so now it keeps jumping signals?
-was there an option for 'testicular irradiation' that I accidentally enabled?
Not even sure if these are the right questions to be asking. Definitely not sure what to do about it even if they are...
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Okay, so saying that makes me stop worrying its going to blow up (happened to my friend's moto milestone back in the day), but it's still a new occurrence to me, which cooincidentally happened right after a changed both my rom and my kernel from stock.
The office aircon is a breezy 24c no matter what day it is .
I was leaning more towards this questions, that I gathered from when i glossed over the two respective threads, but dont understand well enough to decide or check if they're relevant:
-could it be that the rom or the kernel overclocked my phone and thats why its running hotter?
-maybe theres a wake-lock (or partial lock or whatever its called), that had my phone on though it was being left alone?
-did the kernel mess with the radio so now it keeps jumping signals?
-was there an option for 'testicular irradiation' that I accidentally enabled?
Not even sure if these are the right questions to be asking. Definitely not sure what to do about it even if they are...
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there could be 1000s of reasons that your device is running a little warmer today, really. it could all just be random too. as long as the battery stays below 55-60C(60C is the battery temp safety shutdown) and the cpu below 80C(95-100C is the cpu safety shutdown). you wont see those high battery or cpu temps unless your really pushing your device(cpu) or watching flash movies/playing intensive games while plugged in(battery). there are safety protocols set in your phone in case it really does overheat.
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-was there an option for 'testicular irradiation' that I accidentally enabled?
Not even sure if these are the right questions to be asking. Definitely not sure what to do about it even if they are...
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LMAO.
Simms give it up. Every phone I've had since single core phones hit 1 ghz have all gotten really warm
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justlevine said:
After having my phone for around a month, I (yesterday) decided to flip the switch and flashed myself cm10.1 and the latest franco kernel. Just now, I reached to pick up my phone (after letting it idle for around an hour and a half in my pocket), and burned my fingers. The thing is running at 46.5c when the highest it used to get for me was maybe 40-42 (watching a movie, or charging).
What do you guys think the cause is, and my best way for fixing (I dont want to go back to stock, but I will if I have to).
Thanks,
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mine was also same it quickly reaches above +45c though CUP can handle 100c or battery can handle 60c but i can't hold it in my hand i feel so uncomfortable so planing to put cover on it :fingers-crossed:
There are some screen shot how quickly it get hot with just 5min of facebook. one thing i have under-volt it to 687.5mv.
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mine was also same it quickly reaches above +45c though CUP can handle 100c or battery can handle 60c but i can't hold it in my hand i feel so uncomfortable so planing to put cover on it :fingers-crossed:
There are some screen shot how quickly it get hot with just 5min of facebook. one thing i have under-volt it to 687.5mv.
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if you put it in a case itll get a lot warmer because heat cant escape.
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if you put it in a case itll get a lot warmer because heat cant escape.
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Yes that's why I haven't put it yet. But I just flash rosbenjelly heating just wipe out .I am looking for it for long time and finally I got it so nexus 4 heating flash rosbenjelly is solution.
GS150R said:
Yes that's why I haven't put it yet. But I just flash rosbenjelly heating just wipe out .I am looking for it for long time and finally I got it so nexus 4 heating flash rosbenjelly is solution.
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good boy
niw we just got to get you to flash trinity kernel with it :angel:
So you think that trinity kernel which runs at higher clock speeds runs cooler than Franco which runs at stock CPU speeds? Mmmkay. Sure.
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So you think that trinity kernel which runs at higher clock speeds runs cooler than Franco which runs at stock CPU speeds? Mmmkay. Sure.
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um, you run it at whatever speed you want. default, it boots up at 1026mhz, with all 4 core set as minimum, and thats recent. before that, it booted up 1458mhz hotplugging, which is still slightly underclocked. just because you have a choice of raising the cpu speed to 1836mhz, doesnt mean that is the kernel default. you should learn about what youre talking about first, before you say something silly.
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good boy
niw we just got to get you to flash trinity kernel with it :angel:
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Yes I did it and it's cool can we add pie control as in PA 3.15 by removing navigation bar shortcut and status bar.
Who else has this problem
The phone gets hot not warm not pleasant talking on it
Long calls are just not possible
Such a shame for a wonderful product
Its 2 days old
hbksabhi said:
Who else has this problem
The phone gets hot not warm not pleasant talking on it
Long calls are just not possible
Such a shame for a wonderful product
Its 2 days old
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My phone usually gets hot when I'm using 3g but don't get more than 2 bars of signal, try switching to 2g if you know that you're in a place where you won't get a good connection. Or even better, when you're talking, you might as well just turn mobile data off
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My phone usually gets hot when I'm using 3g but don't get more than 2 bars of signal, try switching to 2g if you know that you're in a place where you won't get a good connection. Or even better, when you're talking, you might as well just turn mobile data off
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going to return the phone
what value for money in this phone i dont understand
it fails as a phone
what the use such cool hardware if the device get unusable just becoz its hot
no fun
relly dissapointed
Yes I am also facing this problem since I got it but their is a solution flash rasbeanjelly ROM and Trinity kernel if your familiar with rooting .
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Yes I am also facing this problem since I got it but their is a solution flash rasbeanjelly ROM and Trinity kernel if your familiar with rooting .
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trinity or franco or faux ?
Have you tried flashing different radios? I would even flash back to stock, or try a different rom.
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Have you tried flashing different radios? I would even flash back to stock, or try a different rom.
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where are the radios and how to flash them ??
hbksabhi said:
where are the radios and how to flash them ??
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You really need to learn how to use the search, you sure you wouldnt prefer the iphone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2087227&highlight=radio
actually i never ran code most of the time and had A samsung Note and defy before which never required commands
no problem i will learn it now
iphone has toooo many restrictions and i dont have money tooo
op.. its supposed to get hot. that's why it has a glass back, to cool off quicker. thats why you feel the heat. if you are worried about heat, dont buy a quad core device. buy a dumb phone and itll remain cool.
but that is not a problem with s4 or note 2 ??
so that doesnt justify
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but that is not a problem with s4 or note 2 ??
so that doesnt justify
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its not a problem with the n4 either. the problem is all in your head. again, it has a glass back to transfer the heat out of the phone quicker. because its glass, you will feel it more. s4 and the note 2 have plastic backs, so you feel it less.
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besides op, what temperature is it reaching that you are complaining about, how it feels isnt an accurate temperature reading.
Guys stop embarrassing me
Actually I'm not comparing about heat on the back that's tolerable but its get way too got near the earpiece so that's why I'm complaining
I notice it a lot when I get a call in between my 3G usage
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Guys stop embarrassing me
Actually I'm not comparing about heat on the back that's tolerable but its get way too got near the earpiece so that's why I'm complaining
I notice it a lot when I get a call in between my 3G usage
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way too hot is what temperature(cpu temp)? im not trying to embarrass you, im trying to let you know that its normal, but you refuse to accept it. so, give more detail, what temp is your phone reaching? hot isnt an answer, hot and feel are relative terms.
The s4 does get hot too, I just had it.
But on the bright side, the nexus 4 is cozy in the winter
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way too hot is what temperature(cpu temp)? im not trying to embarrass you, im trying to let you know that its normal, but you refuse to accept it. so, give more detail, what temp is your phone reaching? hot isnt an answer, hot and feel are relative terms.
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i wasnt running anything yesterday to monitor temp ........
but right now i started using it
and only have battery temp with me and it says 36 degree celsius and whats the best app for cpu temp monitoring ??
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i wasnt running anything yesterday to monitor temp ........
but right now i started using it
and only have battery temp with me and it says 36 degree celsius and whats the best app for cpu temp monitoring ??
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there are a few out there, i use the trinity kernel toolbox app. just search cpu temp in the play store. for battery, 60C is the safety temp. for cpu, 95C or 100C is the safety temp. the cpu os near the top of the phone, thats why it feels hot near the earpiece. its normal for the phones cpu temp to shoot up while the cpu is being used. when the screen goes off, itll cool down quickly.
im using trinity kernel now and have installed the toolbox and it shoe 1026 hz clock ??
why is it undervolted ?
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im using trinity kernel now and have installed the toolbox and it shoe 1026 hz clock ??
why is it undervolted ?
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Thats not undervolted, and I suggest you dont touch voltages atm and if you do make sure "set on boot" isnt checked.
That speed is just set lower, not sure if that kernel does that for you but you can set that higher if you wish.
all right ....running trinity and its not that hot now
Thread also here: http://rirozizo.blogspot.com/
Hi,
Soon to be RC here, and my first contribution to the nexus 4 world is an attempt to convince you that your nexus 4 isn't overheating.
Some of you replied to my first thread here about what should i worry about in the nexus 4. Some replied that it has a battery drain... that i fixed by removing the google search bar... Others have said that it has overheating issues which some users are scared of.
I'm here to show you why you shouldn't be scared at all.
I was playing Fast And Furious 6: The Game, and 5 minutes later when i ran out of car gas, i closed the game and directly opened Trickster MOD app to see the temperatures of the phone... yes temperatureS.
You'll notice there are two temps in this app: Battery Temp and CPU Temp.
The one you used to check on older devices is Battery Temp, because older devices didn't have CPU Temp sensor.
When i first opened Trickster MOD it showed this:
Battery Temp: 42°C
CPU Temp: 56°C
And then seconds later, the CPU Temp dropped to 49°C and stayed at 49-50°C.
But Battery Temp was decreasing slowly from 42°C to 38°C in about 5 minutes.
Now the reason for the fast CPU Temp drop is that when the CPU is busy, there is so much electricity running through it, it generates heat. But when the CPU is practically resting, the electricity running through it is much less, hence, the Temp drop, which is normal. And also, if you're using a kernel that supports turning off the 3 other CPUs when not in heavy use, then it's better because the less CPU cores active, the less heat.
So the main thing you should be scared of is the Battery Temp... But don't be, because Android is smart:
Android has a built in overheating system which does certain steps to avoid hardware heating damage, if the phone overheats, it takes some steps:
1- If charging, it stops charging to reduce Battery Temp.
2- Reduces CPU speed automatically to make less electrical current run through the CPU, thus reducing CPU Temp.
3- If both of the above failed to get out of the overheat situation, it shuts down the phone.
So if you were playing a big game, and the phone heats up... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest
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But the question still remains: if I'm charging the phone using the wall charger, and I put it on the wireless charger, will it blow up?
Well, yeah. This is what we have been trying to say since the Nexus 4 came on the market.
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Hi,
Soon to be RC here
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Good luck with that!
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Good luck with that!
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Thanks mate, actually I've been trying to be an RC since last summer... hopefully this time I'll acheive my goal, it's been a year.
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i like what you wrote, except for one thing..
"So if you were playing a big game, and the phone overheats... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest"
the use of the word overheats. its not overheating. its heating up with use, which is the normal way things work. by using overheating, you make it still sound like an issue.
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i like what you wrote, except for one thing..
"So if you were playing a big game, and the phone overheats... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest"
the use of the word overheats. its not overheating. its heating up with use, which is the normal way things work. by using overheating, you make it still sound like an issue.
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Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.
failly said:
Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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Glass doesn't break/crack because of heat, glass breaks because of the fast temperature variation... in this case 2-4°C max is the variation, so no
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if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.
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you beat me by 3 minutes
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if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.
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Glass doesn't break/crack because of heat, glass breaks because of the fast temperature variation... in this case 2-4°C max is the variation, so no
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Thats true, thanks for clearing it up!
Also android itself doesn't have anything built into it for thermals.
That is done by either a file like thermald or on a hardware level.
It's like saying windows controls the cooling on your pc.
A device example would be the rlod. Lower level stuff. Android isn't even loaded.
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Also android itself doesn't have anything built into it for thermals.
That is done by either a file like thermald or on a hardware level.
It's like saying windows controls the cooling on your pc.
A device example would be the rlod. Lower level stuff. Android isn't even loaded.
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you're right, it's not "coded" into android... but so far every android build i've seen has that security system.
but that's not the point, the point of this thread is to stop N4 users from posting "overheating issue" posts, and not worry anymore.
I hear ya. But I am going to rain on your parade. It will never stop.
At best ( which I doubt) they are children that simply don't know much.
But the truth is they are plenty of fools and it will never stop. The level of stupidity I have seen related to this discussion is appalling.
Only way it will stop if it becomes taboo. One thread in general and any new threads about it get closed down and deleted.
Actually it is android that controls temperature throttling. Or to be more precise the android kernel. Which reads the thermald file for it's Max CPU temperature.
There are also hardware cut offs 100°Cpu and 60° battery which will power off the phone.
These temperatures are what I consider overheated. Anything below or throttling is to prevent your device from overheating
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