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Overheating

Hey guys. So i got an atrix today and really like it, only thing is js that the bottom part of the phone gets heats up after about 10 minutes of use. Its really annoying and i don't want it to damage my phone. How can i fix it without installing a custom rom or anything?

Mine did that when i got it at first too, After about a month or 2 it fixed itself.

The bottom of the phone is where the processor is and since it's dual-core it will get warm, especially after 10 continuous minutes of use. It should be nothing to worry about as some have reported getting it up to 115 degrees or so without problems. Also, the phone has a safety feature where it will shut the phone off if it gets too hot.
JccageX2 said:
Hey guys. So i got an atrix today and really like it, only thing is js that the bottom part of the phone gets heats up after about 10 minutes of use. Its really annoying and i don't want it to damage my phone. How can i fix it without installing a custom rom or anything?
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JccageX2 said:
Hey guys. So i got an atrix today and really like it, only thing is js that the bottom part of the phone gets heats up after about 10 minutes of use. Its really annoying and i don't want it to damage my phone. How can i fix it without installing a custom rom or anything?
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Have you tried undervolting?
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Every time it shut the phone automatically, I have to pull the battery off and boot it up. It is really annoying cause I am using a case which is hard to wear on/off. Any solution?

How long are you waiting to boot the phone back up? It should be left to cool down first.
brianwzb said:
Every time it shut the phone automatically, I have to pull the battery off and boot it up. It is really annoying cause I am using a case which is hard to wear on/off. Any solution?
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I believe he wants to avoid any of that when he says he wants to do it "without installing a custom rom or anything", which I believe you need a custom kernel to undervolt. Is that correct?
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Have you tried undervolting?
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Yeah. It just bothers me when the phone gets hot in my hand, and I sorta don't want it to get damaged. I don't wanna undervolt either, it should be able tow ork without me messing with it and it not heating up so much. I don't think other dual cores have the same problem.
Hopefully it'll fix itself though, like an above poster said.

Just have a ice pack on hand for long usage. Should eliminate the problem altogether!

First of all, what android version you are using?
Mine used to heat up nicely enough to cook an egg on it when running stock 2.2, since the stock 2.2 kernel has almost no CPU management at all. When unlocking it and replacing the OS version to 2.3, even before start messing around with custom kernels, it heated less. After I started using custom kernels (especially the superb kernels by faux123 ) I could UV the device, now it heats up only after long playing or at low battery levels.
Hope it helps you

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It is really annoying cause I am using a case which is hard to wear on/off. Any solution?
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There is part of your problem. No active cooling with phones, so when you encase them in something else, there is nowhere for the heat to go. Try using without the case for a few days and see if the problem remains. These phones do get hot, and there are multiple threads covering this topic already.

using an ice pack will probably cause condensation inside the phone, which would damage it.

I find that mine starts to heat up after using high cpu things like games etc. What I suggest is an app named "Juice Defender" and limiting your game/high cpu usage.
If it gets too hot put it on sleep and let it cool

[Q] Overheating Problems [franco kernel | cm 10.1]

After having my phone for around a month, I (yesterday) decided to flip the switch and flashed myself cm10.1 and the latest franco kernel. Just now, I reached to pick up my phone (after letting it idle for around an hour and a half in my pocket), and burned my fingers. The thing is running at 46.5c when the highest it used to get for me was maybe 40-42 (watching a movie, or charging).
What do you guys think the cause is, and my best way for fixing (I dont want to go back to stock, but I will if I have to).
Thanks,

justlevine said:
After having my phone for around a month, I (yesterday) decided to flip the switch and flashed myself cm10.1 and the latest franco kernel. Just now, I reached to pick up my phone (after letting it idle for around an hour and a half in my pocket), and burned my fingers. The thing is running at 46.5c when the highest it used to get for me was maybe 40-42 (watching a movie, or charging).
What do you guys think the cause is, and my best way for fixing (I dont want to go back to stock, but I will if I have to).
Thanks,
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your device isnt overheating nor did it burn your fingers. human body temp is 37C, and it was sitting in your pocket at that temp, insulated, keeping warm. 46.5C will not burn you, ever. it could feel warm because the heat is escaping from the glass back to cool off. thats what its supposed to do. you have a quad core device, it WILL get warm.

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your device isnt overheating nor did it burn your fingers. human body temp is 37C, and it was sitting in your pocket at that temp, insulated, keeping warm. 46.5C will not burn you, ever. it could feel warm because the heat is escaping from the glass back to cool off. thats what its supposed to do. you have a quad core device, it WILL get warm.
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I have a Sony Xperia e.. it gets overheated while charging.. I don't know why???

Syed.Zeshan said:
I have a Sony Xperia e.. it gets overheated while charging.. I don't know why???
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is this a serious statement or sarcasm? lol.
while charging the battery can get hot, and the device can get really warm, especially if its being used at the slightest bit. besides, what is overheated, i mean what temp does it reach, battery and cpu?

simms22 said:
is this a serious statement or sarcasm? lol.
while charging the battery can get hot, and the device can get really warm, especially if its being used at the slightest bit. besides, what is overheated, i mean what temp does it reach, battery and cpu?
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my phone is currently charging and I'm posting this via phone.. so this is in no way sarcasm . it's showing battery temperature as 39 degree Celsius ( checked through *#*#4636#*#*) .. my fingers can feel the heat while I type this... though the heat is not too high but it's not negligible also.

Syed.Zeshan said:
my phone is currently charging and I'm posting this via phone.. so this is in no way sarcasm . it's showing battery temperature as 39 degree Celsius ( checked through *#*#4636#*#*) .. my fingers can feel the heat while I type this... though the heat is not too high but it's not negligible also.
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think about this.. your body is 37C. 39C is a bump warmer. since your fingers are extremeties, they will be slightly cooler than the rest of your body. since they are a little cooler, your phone will feel warmer. but in reality, your battery temp is just normal, even relatively cool for being on the charger and being used.

simms22 said:
your device isnt overheating nor did it burn your fingers. human body temp is 37C, and it was sitting in your pocket at that temp, insulated, keeping warm. 46.5C will not burn you, ever. it could feel warm because the heat is escaping from the glass back to cool off. thats what its supposed to do. you have a quad core device, it WILL get warm.
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Okay, I didn't mean literally 'burn', you're right. My point was that I picked it up and was shocked (figuratively ) by how hot it was.
Again, for the last entire month my phone (on stock) has never reached near this temperature before, even when It was actively running.
[Oh and jacket pocket, it wasnt on me. My point was that it was in a cool, dry, place not charging, and I wasnt using it].

justlevine said:
Okay, I didn't mean literally 'burn', you're right. My point was that I picked it up and was shocked (figuratively ) by how hot it was.
Again, for the last entire month my phone (on stock) has never reached near this temperature before, even when It was actively running.
[Oh and jacket pocket, it wasnt on me. My point was that it was in a cool, dry, place not charging, and I wasnt using it].
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its still a normal temp. tell me, since its spring, has it gotten warmer in your area this past month?

simms22 said:
think about this.. your body is 37C. 39C is a bump warmer. since your fingers are extremeties, they will be slightly cooler than the rest of your body. since they are a little cooler, your phone will feel warmer. but in reality, your battery temp is just normal, even relatively cool for being on the charger and being used.
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fine but whatever it is its rather annoying.. my other phones doesn't get overheated as this does.. anyways thanks for reply

simms22 said:
its still a normal temp. tell me, since its spring, has it gotten warmer in your area this past month?
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Okay, so saying that makes me stop worrying its going to blow up (happened to my friend's moto milestone back in the day), but it's still a new occurrence to me, which cooincidentally happened right after a changed both my rom and my kernel from stock.
The office aircon is a breezy 24c no matter what day it is .
I was leaning more towards this questions, that I gathered from when i glossed over the two respective threads, but dont understand well enough to decide or check if they're relevant:
-could it be that the rom or the kernel overclocked my phone and thats why its running hotter?
-maybe theres a wake-lock (or partial lock or whatever its called), that had my phone on though it was being left alone?
-did the kernel mess with the radio so now it keeps jumping signals?
-was there an option for 'testicular irradiation' that I accidentally enabled?
Not even sure if these are the right questions to be asking. Definitely not sure what to do about it even if they are...

justlevine said:
Okay, so saying that makes me stop worrying its going to blow up (happened to my friend's moto milestone back in the day), but it's still a new occurrence to me, which cooincidentally happened right after a changed both my rom and my kernel from stock.
The office aircon is a breezy 24c no matter what day it is .
I was leaning more towards this questions, that I gathered from when i glossed over the two respective threads, but dont understand well enough to decide or check if they're relevant:
-could it be that the rom or the kernel overclocked my phone and thats why its running hotter?
-maybe theres a wake-lock (or partial lock or whatever its called), that had my phone on though it was being left alone?
-did the kernel mess with the radio so now it keeps jumping signals?
-was there an option for 'testicular irradiation' that I accidentally enabled?
Not even sure if these are the right questions to be asking. Definitely not sure what to do about it even if they are...
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there could be 1000s of reasons that your device is running a little warmer today, really. it could all just be random too. as long as the battery stays below 55-60C(60C is the battery temp safety shutdown) and the cpu below 80C(95-100C is the cpu safety shutdown). you wont see those high battery or cpu temps unless your really pushing your device(cpu) or watching flash movies/playing intensive games while plugged in(battery). there are safety protocols set in your phone in case it really does overheat.

justlevine said:
-was there an option for 'testicular irradiation' that I accidentally enabled?
Not even sure if these are the right questions to be asking. Definitely not sure what to do about it even if they are...
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LMAO.

Simms give it up. Every phone I've had since single core phones hit 1 ghz have all gotten really warm
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justlevine said:
After having my phone for around a month, I (yesterday) decided to flip the switch and flashed myself cm10.1 and the latest franco kernel. Just now, I reached to pick up my phone (after letting it idle for around an hour and a half in my pocket), and burned my fingers. The thing is running at 46.5c when the highest it used to get for me was maybe 40-42 (watching a movie, or charging).
What do you guys think the cause is, and my best way for fixing (I dont want to go back to stock, but I will if I have to).
Thanks,
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mine was also same it quickly reaches above +45c though CUP can handle 100c or battery can handle 60c but i can't hold it in my hand i feel so uncomfortable so planing to put cover on it :fingers-crossed:
There are some screen shot how quickly it get hot with just 5min of facebook. one thing i have under-volt it to 687.5mv.

GS150R said:
mine was also same it quickly reaches above +45c though CUP can handle 100c or battery can handle 60c but i can't hold it in my hand i feel so uncomfortable so planing to put cover on it :fingers-crossed:
There are some screen shot how quickly it get hot with just 5min of facebook. one thing i have under-volt it to 687.5mv.
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if you put it in a case itll get a lot warmer because heat cant escape.

simms22 said:
if you put it in a case itll get a lot warmer because heat cant escape.
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Yes that's why I haven't put it yet. But I just flash rosbenjelly heating just wipe out .I am looking for it for long time and finally I got it so nexus 4 heating flash rosbenjelly is solution.

GS150R said:
Yes that's why I haven't put it yet. But I just flash rosbenjelly heating just wipe out .I am looking for it for long time and finally I got it so nexus 4 heating flash rosbenjelly is solution.
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good boy
niw we just got to get you to flash trinity kernel with it :angel:

So you think that trinity kernel which runs at higher clock speeds runs cooler than Franco which runs at stock CPU speeds? Mmmkay. Sure.
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scottx . said:
So you think that trinity kernel which runs at higher clock speeds runs cooler than Franco which runs at stock CPU speeds? Mmmkay. Sure.
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um, you run it at whatever speed you want. default, it boots up at 1026mhz, with all 4 core set as minimum, and thats recent. before that, it booted up 1458mhz hotplugging, which is still slightly underclocked. just because you have a choice of raising the cpu speed to 1836mhz, doesnt mean that is the kernel default. you should learn about what youre talking about first, before you say something silly.

simms22 said:
good boy
niw we just got to get you to flash trinity kernel with it :angel:
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Yes I did it and it's cool can we add pie control as in PA 3.15 by removing navigation bar shortcut and status bar.

does your S4 get hot below the camera?

Hey guys,
i noticed my phone was getting a little hot while i had the navagtion app going.
im using the S4 flip cover and right under the back camera, where it says Samsung - I felt the phone getting hot.
Anyone experience this?

Me too

It's always hot.
I mean it gets hot often.

Of course it gets hot because the CPU is right there.

CyberT3 said:
Of course it gets hot because the CPU is right there.
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yep i think gpu too because when i play for some time some big games its so close to hurt the finger on the screen side too
expecially if its under charge

xardus said:
yep i think gpu too because when i play for some time some big games its so close to hurt the finger on the screen side too
expecially if its under charge
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According to the manual you shouldn't be using the phone at all when charging

Loool really? Its always under charge when i play or the battery drops in 2 hours i disconnect sometime when it become too hot
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Using while charging is fine unless it is overheating.
The reason it's recommended not to use the phone while charging is because it reaches high temperatures much faster and so is more likely to overheat causing hardware problems
I personally don't game while charging since this phone (especially i9505) gets really hot really fast
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Headless_monkeyhunta96 said:
Using while charging is fine unless it is overheating.
The reason it's recommended not to use the phone while charging is because it reaches high temperatures much faster and so is more likely to overheat causing hardware problems
I personally don't game while charging since this phone (especially i9505) gets really hot really fast
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yes i know that heating its very rapid while under charge..expecially now that its so hot during day and cant dissipate...in may when i bought s4 had less problem
i think i must think to buy an extended battery to play more than 2 hours hehehe are they already on stores?

Almost every good phone gets hot now and then. My rooted S4 barely gets hot. I mean i flashed a great rom (omega rom) and flashed an amazing kernel (perseus) and played a bit with cpu voltages and i undervolted my cpu and it barely gets hot , and when it does , it does not get very hot .

dazkyl said:
Almost every good phone gets hot now and then. My rooted S4 barely gets hot. I mean i flashed a great rom (omega rom) and flashed an amazing kernel (perseus) and played a bit with cpu voltages and i undervolted my cpu and it barely gets hot , and when it does , it does not get very hot .
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i tryed to underclock processors but,maybe i just made a mistake, i saw the battery drop much faster...i setted max speed at 1.2 last time but never tried again

OMG, OMG, OMG, finally!!!!:victory:
I thought I was going crazy, but YES, the phone gets unusualy hot just below the camera.
I noticed this right after performing the Apps2SD update, and since then have been freaking out!
I am afraid that constant heating and cooling of this kind can damage the sensitive parts inside,
so I have been limiting my use of the phone in the last few days.
People, this is not normal. Somebody needs to contact Samsung.
There must be a software patch for this...?!

Oh yesss!! Let's make another thread about overheating -___- It's already known that this happens, so you better get used to it.
Me Gusta!

No more Overheating Posts

Thread also here: http://rirozizo.blogspot.com/
Hi,
Soon to be RC here, and my first contribution to the nexus 4 world is an attempt to convince you that your nexus 4 isn't overheating.
Some of you replied to my first thread here about what should i worry about in the nexus 4. Some replied that it has a battery drain... that i fixed by removing the google search bar... Others have said that it has overheating issues which some users are scared of.
I'm here to show you why you shouldn't be scared at all.
I was playing Fast And Furious 6: The Game, and 5 minutes later when i ran out of car gas, i closed the game and directly opened Trickster MOD app to see the temperatures of the phone... yes temperatureS.
You'll notice there are two temps in this app: Battery Temp and CPU Temp.
The one you used to check on older devices is Battery Temp, because older devices didn't have CPU Temp sensor.
When i first opened Trickster MOD it showed this:
Battery Temp: 42°C
CPU Temp: 56°C
And then seconds later, the CPU Temp dropped to 49°C and stayed at 49-50°C.
But Battery Temp was decreasing slowly from 42°C to 38°C in about 5 minutes.
Now the reason for the fast CPU Temp drop is that when the CPU is busy, there is so much electricity running through it, it generates heat. But when the CPU is practically resting, the electricity running through it is much less, hence, the Temp drop, which is normal. And also, if you're using a kernel that supports turning off the 3 other CPUs when not in heavy use, then it's better because the less CPU cores active, the less heat.
So the main thing you should be scared of is the Battery Temp... But don't be, because Android is smart:
Android has a built in overheating system which does certain steps to avoid hardware heating damage, if the phone overheats, it takes some steps:
1- If charging, it stops charging to reduce Battery Temp.
2- Reduces CPU speed automatically to make less electrical current run through the CPU, thus reducing CPU Temp.
3- If both of the above failed to get out of the overheat situation, it shuts down the phone.
So if you were playing a big game, and the phone heats up... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest
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But the question still remains: if I'm charging the phone using the wall charger, and I put it on the wireless charger, will it blow up?

Well, yeah. This is what we have been trying to say since the Nexus 4 came on the market.
Riro Zizo said:
Hi,
Soon to be RC here
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Good luck with that!

abaaaabbbb63 said:
Good luck with that!
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Thanks mate, actually I've been trying to be an RC since last summer... hopefully this time I'll acheive my goal, it's been a year.
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i like what you wrote, except for one thing..
"So if you were playing a big game, and the phone overheats... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest"
the use of the word overheats. its not overheating. its heating up with use, which is the normal way things work. by using overheating, you make it still sound like an issue.

simms22 said:
i like what you wrote, except for one thing..
"So if you were playing a big game, and the phone overheats... keep playing that game, android will take care of the rest"
the use of the word overheats. its not overheating. its heating up with use, which is the normal way things work. by using overheating, you make it still sound like an issue.
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Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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failly said:
Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.

failly said:
Good topic and solid explenations.
But, Do you think theres a chance the glass back will crack if the phone is at its hottest point(right before it shuts down itself)?
Because I remember that I've read these horror stories before I bought the N4, don't really know if its bad luck or not.
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Glass doesn't break/crack because of heat, glass breaks because of the fast temperature variation... in this case 2-4°C max is the variation, so no
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if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.
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you beat me by 3 minutes
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simms22 said:
if you drop it in cold water, or stick it into a good freezer at that point, then yes. otherwise, probably not unless it get cooled down extremely fast.
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Glass doesn't break/crack because of heat, glass breaks because of the fast temperature variation... in this case 2-4°C max is the variation, so no
you beat me by 3 minutes
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Thats true, thanks for clearing it up!

Also android itself doesn't have anything built into it for thermals.
That is done by either a file like thermald or on a hardware level.
It's like saying windows controls the cooling on your pc.
A device example would be the rlod. Lower level stuff. Android isn't even loaded.

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Also android itself doesn't have anything built into it for thermals.
That is done by either a file like thermald or on a hardware level.
It's like saying windows controls the cooling on your pc.
A device example would be the rlod. Lower level stuff. Android isn't even loaded.
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you're right, it's not "coded" into android... but so far every android build i've seen has that security system.
but that's not the point, the point of this thread is to stop N4 users from posting "overheating issue" posts, and not worry anymore.

I hear ya. But I am going to rain on your parade. It will never stop.
At best ( which I doubt) they are children that simply don't know much.
But the truth is they are plenty of fools and it will never stop. The level of stupidity I have seen related to this discussion is appalling.
Only way it will stop if it becomes taboo. One thread in general and any new threads about it get closed down and deleted.

Actually it is android that controls temperature throttling. Or to be more precise the android kernel. Which reads the thermald file for it's Max CPU temperature.
There are also hardware cut offs 100°Cpu and 60° battery which will power off the phone.
These temperatures are what I consider overheated. Anything below or throttling is to prevent your device from overheating
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Does This Phone Get Hot?

I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.

appro77 said:
I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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This phone is really hot even when you are looking at it with screen turned off.. I hope you understand what i mean
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appro77 said:
I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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Mine hasn't gotten to hot.
Those reporting this problem are probably a minority of all nexus 4 owners.
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Yes the phone does get hot sometimes especially after 10-15 mins of continuously browsing the web on 3G+ or 3G and after 15-20 mins on wifi.. But that's for stock 4.2.2 and 4.3. After undervolting and underclocking the device using custom kernels and ROMs the phone does not get very hot.. It's between 37-40 even after playing games like nova 3 and nfs mw for an hour if you hold the phone with your bare hands and it obviously depends on your configuration.

appro77 said:
I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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Thin glassy phone + powerfull cpu = heat Nothing to worry about.

It gets hot, at least on stock firmware, although my definition of hot might be more sensitive than others. I don't know what it would be like talking on the phone for an hour with it getting hot next to your face, although I haven't done that. I have to use custom rom and underclock the cpu a bit, so it's not an really issue anymore. I probably will get flamed for this, but I don't recommend this device to you if you don't like phones getting hot. But I guess lots of these newer flagship phones that has thin plastic casing probably gets hot too.

With normal usage the phone doesn't get too hot or anything. If you are fond of overclocking and disabling thermal throttle you will get pretty high temperature's. Around 70 degrees celcius.

It get's hot as any other phone but because it has got a glass back you feel the heat better.
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It didn't feel warm at all after undervolting and limiting heat using Trickster Mod (and has been yundervolted for the past 3 months).
Before that it could sometimes get really hot though.

Yes very hot, don't buy it.

meangreenie said:
Yes very hot, don't buy it.
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Yes it gets very hot but the thing is you can still use it without getting very hot if you play games then yes it will get hot.
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Andre_Vitto said:
Yes it gets very hot but the thing is you can still use it without getting very hot if you play games then yes it will get hot.
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Yes very hot, don't buy it.
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Is your phone undervolted and temprature limited?
My temprature never goes over 40 degrees celsius, and feels rather cold most of the time.
Even with rather intensive games like NFS Most Wanted

This phone will not burn you. There isn't a real reason to consider the heat a problem. The temperature of the phone is regulated by the kernel, if it gets too hot the kernel takes measures to reduce the amount of heat being produced. This is a non issue.