I am running CM7 nightlies on my G2, a few days out dated because I have been insanely busy lately... But today in class my phone heated up insanely bad. Sizzled my finger on the metal back plate. I immediately ripped the battery out and let it cool. I think the battery bloated a little bit.
When I put it back in after cooling, all seems normal. The battery started out at 85% and drained to 44% during this. All I can think is that I charged it on the way home to top it off from about 50 to 85% battery, and then topped off a little more, bout ten minutes while at home. Got back to class and then it happened a few minutes later.
Also, I used SetCPU....BUT not overclocking, I had it stock speed, on demand governor, and screen off profile to 245mhz.
What could cause this? I called tmobile and they wanna swap out the phone itself because the battery is not currently bloated so it must be device related.
I am scared to let them swap it out, because I don't wanna revert my phone back to stock, and then have to root the new one. Are ALL G2's rootable? I don't want to risk getting a new one that can't be cracked
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I am running CM7 nightlies on my G2, a few days out dated because I have been insanely busy lately... But today in class my phone heated up insanely bad. Sizzled my finger on the metal back plate. I immediately ripped the battery out and let it cool. I think the battery bloated a little bit.
When I put it back in after cooling, all seems normal. The battery started out at 85% and drained to 44% during this. All I can think is that I charged it on the way home to top it off from about 50 to 85% battery, and then topped off a little more, bout ten minutes while at home. Got back to class and then it happened a few minutes later.
Also, I used SetCPU....BUT not overclocking, I had it stock speed, on demand governor, and screen off profile to 245mhz.
What could cause this? I called tmobile and they wanna swap out the phone itself because the battery is not currently bloated so it must be device related.
I am scared to let them swap it out, because I don't wanna revert my phone back to stock, and then have to root the new one. Are ALL G2's rootable? I don't want to risk getting a new one that can't be cracked
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That's really odd...maybe the phone had a defect or something but yes all G2s can be rooted/s-off since we haven't had any new updates from t-mobile to prevent us from rooting the phone
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That makes me feel better, if I have to replace.
They were going to call me in 20 minutes after I started charging it during the initial call, but they called my wife's Vibrant which never rang, I just got a voice mail notification They left message, and I have no way of calling that particular rep back in technical without going through the entire process over again But, it's still charging, went from about 35%-80% and it's not hot at all. I'm just very confused how this is an isolated thing.
I'm about to be gone from home for 5 weeks, and need my phone, Worst timing ever for this
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That makes me feel better, if I have to replace.
They were going to call me in 20 minutes after I started charging it during the initial call, but they called my wife's Vibrant which never rang, I just got a voice mail notification They left message, and I have no way of calling that particular rep back in technical without going through the entire process over again But, it's still charging, went from about 35%-80% and it's not hot at all. I'm just very confused how this is an isolated thing.
I'm about to be gone from home for 5 weeks, and need my phone, Worst timing ever for this
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Ah I see... anyways just tell the new rep, tell that you already called another rep and was about to give you a replacement but something happen or something... it will make the process faster. when will you leave? T-mobile can send you the replacement phone if you pay 20$ it will get to your house in 1-3 days rather than the normal 3-7 days
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I'm just wary to change the entire phone out and keep the part that scares me into the new one. If I have a problem, I'll call them. It seems to have been just that once. I'll be leaving in about a week probably, and phone is vital. so I hope I get this figured out.
Do NAND backups swap to new phones? Like just NAND this one how it is, and stick it onto my replacement? Or does it backup things specific to that exact phone?
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I'm just wary to change the entire phone out and keep the part that scares me into the new one. If I have a problem, I'll call them. It seems to have been just that once. I'll be leaving in about a week probably, and phone is vital. so I hope I get this figured out.
Do NAND backups swap to new phones? Like just NAND this one how it is, and stick it onto my replacement? Or does it backup things specific to that exact phone?
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Once you get your new replacement you have to reroot/S-off your phone again and flash clockwork. If you have any backups in your sd card just flash your backup and you will have the same stuff you had on your old phone.
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I know, I just mean are Nand's specific lol.
Full charged, no issues... so I'll just keep a really good eye on it. I'm just wondering WTF made it do that. I'm kinda wary to run setCPU now
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I know, I just mean are Nand's specific lol.
Full charged, no issues... so I'll just keep a really good eye on it. I'm just wondering WTF made it do that. I'm kinda wary to run setCPU now
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Lol ohh... well nand for g2 yes.
Lol maybe by chance you overclocked?
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I used to OC to 1.5ghz all the time but not in a long time I need it to get the best battery life possible these days
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I used to OC to 1.5ghz all the time but not in a long time I need it to get the best battery life possible these days
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Aha I see. Well what I do is I put it 1.5 ghz but on ondemand. Never gets hot at all but when I put it on profomance it heats up quickly. Lol have u tried MUIU? Its pretty good.
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Either the battery itself is fried, or some SOFTWARE you're running is responsible. Swapping out the phone itself is pointless. Try a WIPE and see if the problem doesn't come back. If it does, replace the BATTERY.
I didn't read if yo ugot it fixed, but check your battery status... liek what's been using that. I had that one time and like my email app for example used a **** load... I reflashed it and started it from new and it's fixed now.
exactly what is the point of overclocking on the G2?
I can tell why youd use SetCPU on the G1 but what is the point of doing it on the G2?
I really have failed to understand the purpose.
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exactly what is the point of overclocking on the G2?
I can tell why youd use SetCPU on the G1 but what is the point of doing it on the G2?
I really have failed to understand the purpose.
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What's the point in having leather seats, cloth works fine. Why thongs, granny panties get the job done.
Why overclock? Because we can
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What's the point in having leather seats, cloth works fine. Why thongs, granny panties get the job done.
Why overclock? Because we can
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Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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+1 I do agree with that
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Oh ok...nuf sed! I am in agreement...
But if I see granny pants on any of my dates then...date is over!
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Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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For the record, tmobile concluded that it's hardware, not me *can't exactly say I have it fully rooted/modded* and the only reason I called them was that my wife used to work for verizon and it was a known issue that a certain battery style/make/whatever was known to have this exact issue. So she told me to call and ask if it was some known problem that I could tell them my serial to identify if my battery falls under those conditions. They said since it wasn't still bloated by the time I called them, it must be the phone. I talked them out of sending me a replacement... that I'll see if it comes back and immediately call them lol.
I haven't had the issue come back, I think I'm on Nightly 3, and I'm about to flash the latest but I want the battery more charged before I do so. I got like 3x the battery life today than I did the other day.
For whoever asked, I haven't tried MIUI, looks pretty interesting but I'm quite a die hard Cyanogen guy lol. I wish it came to the vibrant
THE GET RICH QUICK SCHEME:
1. Keep phone.
2. Keep using phone the way it is.
3. Induce it to blow up.
4. Sue HTC
5. ? ? ?
6. Profit
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THE QUESTION MARKS LOL... remember the "droid x that blew up while I was talking on it and it cut my face/I smashed my droid x I want a refund trolol" guy?
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Alright, so I think I bricked my phone! I had put android on it. 2.2 bluetopia? and everything was running fine. My battery was low so I go to charge it, but before I do that a page I was loading from the net froze on me without realizing and the screen dident turn off. I left and did some things and come back to the phone, screen is still on, still frozen and EXTREMELY hot. I get really nervous and get my phone and its to the point where I cant even hold it for too long without it hurting my hands. I take out the battery and pray for the best. My praying sucks apparently because now it does not turn on. Ive tryed letting the phone cool down though the night and it does not turn on. Ive tryed taking out sim card and mem card and it does not turn on. Ive tryed taking out the battery and plugging the the charger it does not turn on. Ive tryed with the battery with the charger it does not turn on! phone gets warm when I put the battery back in. Light that indicates when its charging with the charger doesnt turn on. only slight good news is when I turn the power on I feel a slight vibration from the phone like if its trying to turn on but just cant. Hope someone could shed some light and let me know If I should just move on because this sucks!!!!
ps. I hope people learn from my mistake.
pss. What are the return polices from htc or tmobile? Im concerned because I bought the phone second hand.
thanks for reading/helping.
As far as any return/exchange, it's definitely a no on both HTC &T-Mobile... And if she won't even boot at all, it sounds like a classic but common overclocking mishap.
Sorry to say, but it may be time to move on.
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One question for my personal understanding: Android ROMS that are offered here on the board are not innatelly overclocking my HD2, are they?! Now I´m really anxious, due to the fact that i´m using biffmod and my HD2 gets much warmer during strong usage (e.g. gaming)
Try doing a hard reset
Hold Volume up and call end button, it will go to the multi color screen and do a factory reset, this will erase all your data.
If possible, can you try a different battery? If you killed the battery by overheating (which is often easier than killing the phone using the same method), it might not even get to the first screen without power. A sure sign to see if it's your battery, is check the feel of it. if it's in any way bulged or kinda squishy it's probably fried, and if it's just the battery that's a lot cheaper than the whole phone.
In fact, I've gotten quite a few nice phones for real cheap, since the original owner thought it was "broken", when all it needed was a new battery.
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If possible, can you try a different battery? If you killed the battery by overheating (which is often easier than killing the phone using the same method), it might not even get to the first screen without power. A sure sign to see if it's your battery, is check the feel of it. if it's in any way bulged or kinda squishy it's probably fried, and if it's just the battery that's a lot cheaper than the whole phone.
In fact, I've gotten quite a few nice phones for real cheap, since the original owner thought it was "broken", when all it needed was a new battery.
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+1 on this. I also had one phone like this before. Change the battery.
it ended up being the motherboard. i sent it in for repairs through htc and they fixwe it. i tryed your guys suggestions on trying a different battery but it still would not turn on. lesson learned, Im going to try to avoid Android on my phone from now on.
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it ended up being the motherboard. i sent it in for repairs through htc and they fixwe it. i tryed your guys suggestions on trying a different battery but it still would not turn on. lesson learned, Im going to try to avoid Android on my phone from now on.
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Hate to hear what happened, but staying away from Android doesn't really seem like a solution to me. The percentage of bricks due to Android is very small, so I'd say go out, have fun with your phone while it's still up to date (lets face it, hardware improves too quick) and don't be left behind with WinMo 6.5. That's just not worth it imo. If you stick to non-overclocked kernels you really are pretty safe.
probably go 2 the shop and try 2 get a battery tested into your HD2
if that works, buy the battery
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Hate to hear what happened, but staying away from Android doesn't really seem like a solution to me. The percentage of bricks due to Android is very small, so I'd say go out, have fun with your phone while it's still up to date (lets face it, hardware improves too quick) and don't be left behind with WinMo 6.5. That's just not worth it imo. If you stick to non-overclocked kernels you really are pretty safe.
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you know what, you make a lot of sense. i did enjoy android quite a bit and will continue to use it. funny thing is I bought the hd2 just for android and did that until my phone broke and now im kinda liking winmo a lot now.
I thought I'd share some hopefully helpful information with you guys after having to have 2 swap outs of my Nexus S after getting it on launch day.
I had done an awful lot of reading prior to getting my Nexus to make sure I was pretty clued up about any potential launch bugs which seem to plague a number of handsets these days.
The first thing I noticed with my first phone was the unusually fast battery drain and long charge times, I could hardly go through daylight hours without my phone needing charge (Battery indicator showing orange or red). The following night I left the phone with 55% charge and went to sleep. When I woke up the phone was off, strange I thought; turns out it had eaten the rest of the battery over night.
The final straw came when I reset the phone to default settings (thinking it was a rogue app causing the drain) and it still ate the battery within a day. At this point I knew something was up, especially as reviewers were commenting that the battery seemed considerably better than a lot of other Android handsets.
I decided to take it back to Best Buy to get a swap out, long story short the sales rep. tested the battery and told me that it was defective. He then said he would swap out just the handset and battery with another unit, great I thought!
My relief was soon disturbed when I realised something wasn't right with the screen on my new handset. Not only was the screen a pee yellow colour (compared with the cool temperature of the original) there was also significant banding within the grey area of the the pull down notification tray. These problems had also been mentioned on the Engadget review and even if they hadn't I'm pretty sure I still would have noticed it straight away regardless.
After another trip back to Best Buy and a reluctant second swap out on their part, I have what seems like a fully working handset with a good battery and decent AMOLED panel.
I don't know what's happening with Samsung's QC or whether they have large tolerances for their panels, but I would have thought that they would have been able to iron a lot of this out having already launched the Galaxy S series.
A slightly long post but I hope this at least saves some of you the hassle I've been through to get a decent handset. This isn't the first time it's happened either, I had problems with my launch day iPhone 4 with the mic not working.
One thing's for sure, I'm going to be far more vigilant when buying my next handset.
also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems
nothing new for samsung QA
Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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Sadly, Google != Apple, they don't produce their own hardware. Depending on Samsung, with their known ****ty QA is a risk I'm sure they weighed.
I ordered my NS online and have none off theses issues! Actually my battery life is AWESOME. 16 hours straight between charging. I love it!
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I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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HHmm, If a few are defective, then they ALL must be. Quick, we must warn the others!
I'm not following you? I was implying that all phones have bad batches. No need to get butt hurt if that offended you?
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3G supported band
Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?
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Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?
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Correct, it wont work on AT&T/Bell/Telus 3G (someone correct me if im wrong about the Canadian carriers)
Having the same battery problem, please help
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!
SmartphonesTV said:
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Standard-Battery-Moment-M900/dp/B0026LQL40/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top this battery works if you need to buy a new one
Calm down OP. You are just unlucky I suppose. Not only Samsung, I had to switch my ex droid2 three times. First, the microphone doesn't work. Second one, the power button then the third time physical keyboard was not responsive. Just my .02
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Its called mass production people each headset will have a defect!!! Live with it or dont buy simple
Yep battery life on my phone seems crap compared to my iPhone 4 but its a good phone never the less.
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As of now, the nexus s i definitely eating up more battery than my n1. but i usually give it a week before i can say fore sure. are there extended batteries out for the NS?
Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.
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Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.
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if you check the accessories thread someone says its a 1500
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Thx for that - thought I was going mad! Vol+ and Back seem dodgy - don't work every time. I'll be taking it back to the shop on Tuesday...
I dunno, must just be me but I completely love this phone.
I'm going to be soon getting either the 4g FFC or the revision 2 FFC. Have not completely decided yet. ( I already have v1 of the FFC and I'm fine with how it acts... I don't often take pictures in the dark, ha.)
With the v1 FFC and bionix 1.3.1 with overstock. The phone is very responsive.. I do get a slight lag in between downloading and installing stages of getting apps, but that's far from the end of the world for me.
Besides that this phone is honestly perfect! I don't know what more I could want from a phone, haha.
I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
I love my vibrant had it since release....
Waiting for the S2, other than that this phone has been GREAT !!
I love my phone. It really is wonderful.
samsung can eat a ____.
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This is definitely a great phone with tons of possibilities.
A solid gps and a flash for the camera
I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
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i love does big things bro but i love my vibrant
I want mine to do my chores
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A solid gps and a flash for the camera
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The GPS deal , well... that's hit or miss it seems. Mine on the other hand works perfect and has worked fine since I got it right after release.
Flash... well ya knew it didn't have flash when you went to get it, so... yeah.
I love this phone. It's tough , even though it feels light and wimpy. It's super fast, the screen is beautiful and there's so many ROMs and mods to customize it the way you like it that I'm never bored with it.
Had a galaxy s 4G, it was a disappointment but I miss the ffc!
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I just wish the GPS would lock in a little quicker and that the battery was a little better.
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I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I never understood the cheap feeling people got from it either, and I had a hd2 that is supposed to be the best build quality in a phone, my vibrant may not be that solid, but hell, its solid....
It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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One quick remark on what you said regarding Cell drainage vs. Wifi, that's just not true. At least in my case it isn't.
Today for example I took my phone off the charger about 8 a.m and by the time I walked out of uni 8 hours later I had 78% left. All this while making about a total of 70 minutes of calls not to mention a couple of texts.
Now when I reached home I turned on my wifi and started doing my net business, that got me to 15% in less than 4 hours. Without doing any calls/texts in the process.
What more could I want in a phone?
How about no interface or response lag? I'm running Bionix V 1.3.1 with Voodoo lagfix enable, and there's still some lag in the response.
I'd also like the GPS to work every time with accuracy at least matching my 2+ year old G1.
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
xtone said:
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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This made me lol so a thanks hit...
Also 3g uses more battery than being on wifi to the person talking about wifi draining their ****....
I have excellent battery life...
xtone said:
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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haha I wanted to say this but I might get flame. lol
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So I've had my epic since it came out, traded my evo for it, no problems rooting, loved the community. But now I've ran into a problem that all my technical experience as a Sprint tech has failed to fix.
Starting last night, after watching "Hobo with a Shotgun" (amazing grindhouse style movie, get it), every time I put the phone to sleep for more then 2-3 minutes, it will not wake or ring or anything until you pull the battery. I was on SFR, tried flashing a new kernel, re flashing the rom, flashing a new rom, odin back to stock, same issue every time.
So unless someone knows something I don't, gotta wait until monday to get a refurbished unit.
Sad, this is the first time I've had to get a replacement since my HTC Apache.
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The problem is probably that the phone can't wake uo on 100mhz. If you are on a custom kernel you it to 200 MHz as the minimum. My phone will do the same thing if I have the minimum set to 100
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Try this. Seems to be working for me so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036648
I use to have to set mine at 400mhz to make sure it would wake back up. Since doing this I dropped it back to 200mhz and haven't had any issues yet.
Hurpa Durp, never thought of that... had the same issue on my Hero for awhile, setting it on 200mhz min worked like a charm.
While were on the subject, I have a few interesting thoughts. Since this has never happened before, is my Epic's underclock/overclock threshold degrading? Didn't know that could happen, I though it was predetermined by the quality of the die the CPU was cut from when it was manufactured. Maybe overclocking to 1300 with higher then normal voltage is having some repercussions? Thoughts?
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Hurpa Durp, never thought of that... had the same issue on my Hero for awhile, setting it on 200mhz min worked like a charm.
While were on the subject, I have a few interesting thoughts. Since this has never happened before, is my Epic's underclock/overclock threshold degrading? Didn't know that could happen, I though it was predetermined by the quality of the die the CPU was cut from when it was manufactured. Maybe overclocking to 1300 with higher then normal voltage is having some repercussions? Thoughts?
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Not suggesting you do this...but you could always brick your phone and then take it into a sprint store for a replacement phone haha
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Not suggesting you do this...but you could always brick your phone and then take it into a sprint store for a replacement phone haha
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How does this make sense, as the question was more, what can I do to stop from having to get a replacement????????
My phone can handle 1.45 oc just fine with no lockups. It has trouble waking you on 100 sometimes.
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Not suggesting you do this...but you could always brick your phone and then take it into a sprint store for a replacement phone haha
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Lol, I'm a sprint tech, don't think I'll have a problem getting a new phone.
Also, I have my phone back to stock, odin'd eb13 and its still doing it. Getting a new unit on monday or tuesday. Until then, I have it on 10 minute screen time out.
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About a dozen times recently I've removed my Desire Z from my pocket and discovered it is turned off and extremely HOT, not burning hot but much much hotter than any phone ever should be. The whole phone and battery is hot. I have to remove and reinsert the battery to restart the phone and the battery level is much depleted over what is normal. I don't think the phone is going to start a fire in my pocket but I rely on this thing to be functioning when it's supposed to, not heating my, umm, privates.
Anyone else experience this? Fortunately it's still under warranty (if I can find the receipt...).
What ROM? Kernel? etc?
Need info to help, if you're stock, then its defective and you should return it of course.
Has this been happening more than once? And like the guy above me said, are you over clocked? If so, have it so it unclocks when the screen is off. But if your not over clocked, maybe try getting a new battery?
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The phone is completely stock other than being unlocked so I can use it under Telus. My battery is a Mugen Power 1800 mAh though I am believe that the very first time this happened it had the original battery in it.
It always happens while I'm carrying it in my pocket,that is to say it doesn't happen all the time but when it does it has been in my pocket - that's where I always carry it. Sometimes I feel the heat enough to notice it, but usually I'm checking my phone wondering why I didn't receive an expected call. And then when it restarts from a battery pull I realize I have practically no battery left.
I have an inquiry into HTC about it. I assume I am going to have to find my receipt before they'll be willing to warranty it right? Being without my phone for any length of time is going to be a big problem in itself though.
How long do you keep it in your pocket. I know my phone starts getting warm when I've had it in my pocket for an hour or so. Hence the reason I always keep it on my desk and only have it in my pocket if I'm off somewhere.
Since you aren't overclocking it, I can say I'm 99% sure it's a bad battery or liquid damage. Do any of the batteries have humps or are they completely flat? Has the phone been exposed to any liquid at all?
If your rooted use setcpu to keep an eye on temps. Otherwise I've used gauge battery widget to keep an eye on temps as well. Actually I use both currently and when my phones running warm the temps reflect that. Wouldn't hurt to try, besides at least then you'll have an actual temp number to warn you.
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No, the phone has never been rooted nor exposed to moisture. I might keep in my pocket all day - usually it's fine, the odd time it's shut off and darn near burning hot. Perhaps it is the Mugen battery causing this although it appears physically fine and normally powers my phone for 1.5 days without heating up.
In any event I discovered that I apparently have no warranty! HTC says they don't do any repairs (?) and it is up to my provider to fix it. Well that ain't gonna work for me as I bought the phone from a Bell dealer and unlocked it to use on the Telus network. The dealer told me directly that once it was unlocked, all warranty is through the manufacturer. Neat system eh?
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If your rooted use setcpu to keep an eye on temps. Otherwise I've used gauge battery widget to keep an eye on temps as well. Actually I use both currently and when my phones running warm the temps reflect that. Wouldn't hurt to try, besides at least then you'll have an actual temp number to warn you.
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He's stated hes not rooted. And a temp widget won't help him since its overheating in his pocket.
OP this is clearly a hardware issue unless for some reason you have some seriously rogue app that's blowing up your system.
Or a defective battery is also possible.
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Or a defective battery is also possible.
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oh well yes, by hardware I mean device+battery, aka not software.
I have the same problem with mine but I am rooted and running a diff rom i did it almost the same day I got the phone so I not sure if it did it before. Im running cryogen 7.0.2. I run about 1 ghz but have underclocked it to 600 and had still had the same overheat deal for me. Also have had it do it while on a table out of my pocket...
No bumps on the batt and no water...
Also my touchscreen doesn't work well at all...
I have also had similar problems with a mugen battery. From now on if i dont use a paper between the door cover and the battery, if i fully close the battery cover the phone will shut down. Mugen batteries are as crap as they get. Stick with the stock battery, im getting 2.5 days of use with RMK's G-lite rom.
P.S. IMO the Mugen battery has about the same "real" mah rating as the stock one.
You should change the battery.
I agree try a new battery, stock if you want. And I use the chichitech 1900 mah and it might get a little warm but not burning hot lol and that's with a case...so maybe the battery door is actually warmer. Hmm...anyways yea new battery or phone whichever is cheaper or more convenient.
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