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damn.. today I got a complete freeze of my HD2 running on original ROM, original radio and HSPL1.42..
It was very low on batt (4%) and I was searching a file on Total commander.
has anyone got one of this before?
holy cow WTF, i would leave it of for a while then charge it turned off, try again, I never seen that man.
Can you enter the bootloader? Btw. I've never seen such an issue.
It was the first one.. (and I hope the last one) and I got scared like hell!
BTW I pulled off the battery and it came back to life. Now it is charging normally and everything is ok..
Just wanted to know if someone else have faced this kind of hangs..
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Can you enter the bootloader? Btw. I've never seen such an issue.
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thank god it was just a hang... everything is ok now..
I have seen it on other units when the battery gets critically low. Some units will go into a continuos boot cycle,others will turn off, and some others will hang on certain screens..... Glad that you sorted it out.
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woah! that green color is freakishly close to the HTC theme "green".
its as if the HTC "HAL" inside is trying to come out, like it had become "self aware" for a fleeting moment
beware!
God damn... ^^ You made me freak out after 4 dead Xboxs due to the red ring of death...
hdbueller said:
I have seen it on other units when the battery gets critically low. Some units will go into a continuos boot cycle,others will turn off, and some others will hang on certain screens..... Glad that you sorted it out.
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I remember old days with my 2nd winmo device.. it was an HP IPAQ running WM 6.0, when the battery was really really low, it started rebooting on an endless cycle.. Now this is my 4th winmo device, I never thought ill see something like that again...
Paschinski said:
God damn... ^^ You made me freak out after 4 dead Xboxs due to the red ring of death...
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you really can't immagine my freaked out face while looking at the green screen...
i want it... i want it...
got same trouble often with any batt status
agreed with previous replies, gsod in this case probably more relates to low battery...
in wm, using sync mode when connecting to pc via usb cable, reboot to android, and you will not get gsod... at least works for my hd2: either using this way or reboot when battery is not too low (above 40%??)
Someone got their hands on the rare HTC Hulk...
Never seen that solid gsod before -- at least outside of the Android port's early builds.
I GOT ONE TOO!!!
but mine was while booting into Android
Never seen one within WinMo though... ever.
leepriestenator said:
I GOT ONE TOO!!!
but mine was while booting into Android
Never seen one within WinMo though... ever.
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I too have had it with android, allot of people have!
But never ever in winmo, Ive never even heard of it till now!
got it when booting to android too
GSOD repeatedly
Hi, this is really scary. This morning I had so far 5-6 GSODs. Battery's fine (90%). The only different thing is the GSM's turned off since I'm in roaming. After a GSOD the screen is hanging on the white screen with the ROM details 3.14 ROM btw. Reset needed after that too. Original batteries. First time it happened it was during a USB sync.
Is anyone getting the same?
No Android, no ROM experiments.
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Getting out the microSD card helped. I uninstalled a couple of programs, now it's all right.
I remember installing some multialarm program and IMDB mobile, midomi all from OPNmarket. They are out of my phone now.
do a hard reset
GSOD
I got the same thing on WM. i send my phone to htc for warranty, and they replaced my motherboard. dont why but they did. since that moment i got the GSOD. it also keeps rebooting. very annoying. called htc and im getting a new phone. hope this helps
GSOD Moto Triumph
The same senario has happened to me and I can't seem to get my Triumph to work again. Any tips would be appreciated.
Good morning,
I did a search for this topic but didn't find anything which could help so I thought I'd start a new thread and ask you guys.
I have installed the Desire version of Android and it runs fine apart from two issues.
The first is that when the phone is plugged in to either the wall charger or the PC it gets really hot. The heat is coming from the back of the phone but right at the bottom (not from the battery). It got so hot after around twenty minutes last night that I rebooted it into Windows just so I could charge my phone overnight. Windows has no similar issues, by the way.
The second thing is that sometimes the screen becomes unresponsive while running Android. This is mainly on the homescreen and you have to usually turn the screen off (stand-by) and switch it back on again to make it work.
If anyone can offer any solutions to either problem I'd very much appreciate it. If I've left anything out, let me know. It's nearly 7am and I'm barely thinking straight.
Many thanks.
i get the same heat issue whether its plugged in or not(its much worse when its plugged in though). this & the battery life are why i cant run android for more than a couple hours. im sure theyre related too. the heat scares me, i dont want anything to fry out. as soon as i boot back into windows it cools right down. i really hope this issue gets fixed soon.
yeah the problems you have are what some ppl have and to my knowledege they have not been fully solved yet. But its still a work in progress, just give it some time
I can deal with the overheating I turn the screen off for a while and its good.
What I can't deal with is THE CONSTANT FREEZING!
It's really starting to piss me off!!
I think its because of the class 4 SD card, I'll get a class 6 SD some time this month and I think that should help out A LOT!
i 100% using external charger with few batteries, so i've never realize the problem.
find a good task manager app from the marketplace and kill all apps that are running in the background. that cooled down the device quite a bit for me
i don't think so
tuppaacc said:
I can deal with the overheating I turn the screen off for a while and its good.
What I can't deal with is THE CONSTANT FREEZING!
It's really starting to piss me off!!
I think its because of the class 4 SD card, I'll get a class 6 SD some time this month and I think that should help out A LOT!
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i don't think so. mine is 8GB class 4.
I think it may be related to your radio and rom.
I am on claudyfa's 1.5 rom and 2.12.xx radio - you can give it a try
If I use a lot of apps in android, it gets really hot, like in win mo. but android is hotter
good luck
It's freakin beta. Secondly use set CPU and lower your clock speed. It save battery life also. As far as the freezing its a result of the beta nature of the roms
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I got the same problem with MdJ Froyo HD 4.4
Is it a known issue now ? Can it be solved by anything ?
PS : Sorry if my message is not very understandable but I don't really speak english ^^
I am running CM7 nightlies on my G2, a few days out dated because I have been insanely busy lately... But today in class my phone heated up insanely bad. Sizzled my finger on the metal back plate. I immediately ripped the battery out and let it cool. I think the battery bloated a little bit.
When I put it back in after cooling, all seems normal. The battery started out at 85% and drained to 44% during this. All I can think is that I charged it on the way home to top it off from about 50 to 85% battery, and then topped off a little more, bout ten minutes while at home. Got back to class and then it happened a few minutes later.
Also, I used SetCPU....BUT not overclocking, I had it stock speed, on demand governor, and screen off profile to 245mhz.
What could cause this? I called tmobile and they wanna swap out the phone itself because the battery is not currently bloated so it must be device related.
I am scared to let them swap it out, because I don't wanna revert my phone back to stock, and then have to root the new one. Are ALL G2's rootable? I don't want to risk getting a new one that can't be cracked
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I am running CM7 nightlies on my G2, a few days out dated because I have been insanely busy lately... But today in class my phone heated up insanely bad. Sizzled my finger on the metal back plate. I immediately ripped the battery out and let it cool. I think the battery bloated a little bit.
When I put it back in after cooling, all seems normal. The battery started out at 85% and drained to 44% during this. All I can think is that I charged it on the way home to top it off from about 50 to 85% battery, and then topped off a little more, bout ten minutes while at home. Got back to class and then it happened a few minutes later.
Also, I used SetCPU....BUT not overclocking, I had it stock speed, on demand governor, and screen off profile to 245mhz.
What could cause this? I called tmobile and they wanna swap out the phone itself because the battery is not currently bloated so it must be device related.
I am scared to let them swap it out, because I don't wanna revert my phone back to stock, and then have to root the new one. Are ALL G2's rootable? I don't want to risk getting a new one that can't be cracked
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That's really odd...maybe the phone had a defect or something but yes all G2s can be rooted/s-off since we haven't had any new updates from t-mobile to prevent us from rooting the phone
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That makes me feel better, if I have to replace.
They were going to call me in 20 minutes after I started charging it during the initial call, but they called my wife's Vibrant which never rang, I just got a voice mail notification They left message, and I have no way of calling that particular rep back in technical without going through the entire process over again But, it's still charging, went from about 35%-80% and it's not hot at all. I'm just very confused how this is an isolated thing.
I'm about to be gone from home for 5 weeks, and need my phone, Worst timing ever for this
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That makes me feel better, if I have to replace.
They were going to call me in 20 minutes after I started charging it during the initial call, but they called my wife's Vibrant which never rang, I just got a voice mail notification They left message, and I have no way of calling that particular rep back in technical without going through the entire process over again But, it's still charging, went from about 35%-80% and it's not hot at all. I'm just very confused how this is an isolated thing.
I'm about to be gone from home for 5 weeks, and need my phone, Worst timing ever for this
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Ah I see... anyways just tell the new rep, tell that you already called another rep and was about to give you a replacement but something happen or something... it will make the process faster. when will you leave? T-mobile can send you the replacement phone if you pay 20$ it will get to your house in 1-3 days rather than the normal 3-7 days
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I'm just wary to change the entire phone out and keep the part that scares me into the new one. If I have a problem, I'll call them. It seems to have been just that once. I'll be leaving in about a week probably, and phone is vital. so I hope I get this figured out.
Do NAND backups swap to new phones? Like just NAND this one how it is, and stick it onto my replacement? Or does it backup things specific to that exact phone?
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I'm just wary to change the entire phone out and keep the part that scares me into the new one. If I have a problem, I'll call them. It seems to have been just that once. I'll be leaving in about a week probably, and phone is vital. so I hope I get this figured out.
Do NAND backups swap to new phones? Like just NAND this one how it is, and stick it onto my replacement? Or does it backup things specific to that exact phone?
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Once you get your new replacement you have to reroot/S-off your phone again and flash clockwork. If you have any backups in your sd card just flash your backup and you will have the same stuff you had on your old phone.
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I know, I just mean are Nand's specific lol.
Full charged, no issues... so I'll just keep a really good eye on it. I'm just wondering WTF made it do that. I'm kinda wary to run setCPU now
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I know, I just mean are Nand's specific lol.
Full charged, no issues... so I'll just keep a really good eye on it. I'm just wondering WTF made it do that. I'm kinda wary to run setCPU now
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Lol ohh... well nand for g2 yes.
Lol maybe by chance you overclocked?
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I used to OC to 1.5ghz all the time but not in a long time I need it to get the best battery life possible these days
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I used to OC to 1.5ghz all the time but not in a long time I need it to get the best battery life possible these days
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Aha I see. Well what I do is I put it 1.5 ghz but on ondemand. Never gets hot at all but when I put it on profomance it heats up quickly. Lol have u tried MUIU? Its pretty good.
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Either the battery itself is fried, or some SOFTWARE you're running is responsible. Swapping out the phone itself is pointless. Try a WIPE and see if the problem doesn't come back. If it does, replace the BATTERY.
I didn't read if yo ugot it fixed, but check your battery status... liek what's been using that. I had that one time and like my email app for example used a **** load... I reflashed it and started it from new and it's fixed now.
exactly what is the point of overclocking on the G2?
I can tell why youd use SetCPU on the G1 but what is the point of doing it on the G2?
I really have failed to understand the purpose.
androidcues said:
exactly what is the point of overclocking on the G2?
I can tell why youd use SetCPU on the G1 but what is the point of doing it on the G2?
I really have failed to understand the purpose.
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What's the point in having leather seats, cloth works fine. Why thongs, granny panties get the job done.
Why overclock? Because we can
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TJBunch1228 said:
What's the point in having leather seats, cloth works fine. Why thongs, granny panties get the job done.
Why overclock? Because we can
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Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
dhkr234 said:
Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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+1 I do agree with that
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Oh ok...nuf sed! I am in agreement...
But if I see granny pants on any of my dates then...date is over!
dhkr234 said:
Yes, except that sometimes these hacks can cause problems, so before concluding that the hardware is defective, it is important to return the software to a more natural state and see if the problem goes away. If the problem is present with the hacks and not when without, then it is reasonable to conclude that there is a correlation between the problem and the hack.
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For the record, tmobile concluded that it's hardware, not me *can't exactly say I have it fully rooted/modded* and the only reason I called them was that my wife used to work for verizon and it was a known issue that a certain battery style/make/whatever was known to have this exact issue. So she told me to call and ask if it was some known problem that I could tell them my serial to identify if my battery falls under those conditions. They said since it wasn't still bloated by the time I called them, it must be the phone. I talked them out of sending me a replacement... that I'll see if it comes back and immediately call them lol.
I haven't had the issue come back, I think I'm on Nightly 3, and I'm about to flash the latest but I want the battery more charged before I do so. I got like 3x the battery life today than I did the other day.
For whoever asked, I haven't tried MIUI, looks pretty interesting but I'm quite a die hard Cyanogen guy lol. I wish it came to the vibrant
THE GET RICH QUICK SCHEME:
1. Keep phone.
2. Keep using phone the way it is.
3. Induce it to blow up.
4. Sue HTC
5. ? ? ?
6. Profit
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED THE QUESTION MARKS LOL... remember the "droid x that blew up while I was talking on it and it cut my face/I smashed my droid x I want a refund trolol" guy?
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I dunno, must just be me but I completely love this phone.
I'm going to be soon getting either the 4g FFC or the revision 2 FFC. Have not completely decided yet. ( I already have v1 of the FFC and I'm fine with how it acts... I don't often take pictures in the dark, ha.)
With the v1 FFC and bionix 1.3.1 with overstock. The phone is very responsive.. I do get a slight lag in between downloading and installing stages of getting apps, but that's far from the end of the world for me.
Besides that this phone is honestly perfect! I don't know what more I could want from a phone, haha.
I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
I love my vibrant had it since release....
Waiting for the S2, other than that this phone has been GREAT !!
I love my phone. It really is wonderful.
samsung can eat a ____.
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This is definitely a great phone with tons of possibilities.
A solid gps and a flash for the camera
I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
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i love does big things bro but i love my vibrant
I want mine to do my chores
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A solid gps and a flash for the camera
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The GPS deal , well... that's hit or miss it seems. Mine on the other hand works perfect and has worked fine since I got it right after release.
Flash... well ya knew it didn't have flash when you went to get it, so... yeah.
I love this phone. It's tough , even though it feels light and wimpy. It's super fast, the screen is beautiful and there's so many ROMs and mods to customize it the way you like it that I'm never bored with it.
Had a galaxy s 4G, it was a disappointment but I miss the ffc!
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I just wish the GPS would lock in a little quicker and that the battery was a little better.
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I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I never understood the cheap feeling people got from it either, and I had a hd2 that is supposed to be the best build quality in a phone, my vibrant may not be that solid, but hell, its solid....
It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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One quick remark on what you said regarding Cell drainage vs. Wifi, that's just not true. At least in my case it isn't.
Today for example I took my phone off the charger about 8 a.m and by the time I walked out of uni 8 hours later I had 78% left. All this while making about a total of 70 minutes of calls not to mention a couple of texts.
Now when I reached home I turned on my wifi and started doing my net business, that got me to 15% in less than 4 hours. Without doing any calls/texts in the process.
What more could I want in a phone?
How about no interface or response lag? I'm running Bionix V 1.3.1 with Voodoo lagfix enable, and there's still some lag in the response.
I'd also like the GPS to work every time with accuracy at least matching my 2+ year old G1.
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
xtone said:
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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This made me lol so a thanks hit...
Also 3g uses more battery than being on wifi to the person talking about wifi draining their ****....
I have excellent battery life...
xtone said:
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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haha I wanted to say this but I might get flame. lol
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Ok, so im not new to android modding, hacking, rooting ,etc. Ive rooted many samsung, motorola and nexus devices. But my question is, is it safe to let the nexus 4 bateey hit 0%? Ive read that nexus 4 is hard to bring back once it hits zero.
jamescable said:
Ok, so im not new to android modding, hacking, rooting ,etc. Ive rooted many samsung, motorola and nexus devices. But my question is, is it safe to let the nexus 4 bateey hit 0%? Ive read that nexus 4 is hard to bring back once it hits zero.
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It'll turn itself off before it reaches dangerously low battery levels, so just avoid trying to turn it back on until you've plugged it in to a charger.
jamescable said:
Ok, so im not new to android modding, hacking, rooting ,etc. Ive rooted many samsung, motorola and nexus devices. But my question is, is it safe to let the nexus 4 bateey hit 0%? Ive read that nexus 4 is hard to bring back once it hits zero.
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No phone battery, android or any other should hit 0%. The battery will calibrate itself anyway after a few charges. So just plug it in at 10-15%.
Ive heard that when the phone gets really low, even charging overnight doesnt do anything?
How about you just don't let it hit zero? Do you really want to find out the hard way what might happen? You may live if you jump off a bridge, but would you try it? Come on... a little common sense goes a long way.
If it dies, send it back. Not rocket science is it.
418 iedTign
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Ive heard that when the phone gets really low, even charging overnight doesnt do anything?
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Well, if you manage to completely discharge a Li-ion battery you physically damage the battery, however phones (and laptops, and anything else with a Li-ion battery) are set to turn themselves off before the battery is completely discharged. That means the phone may report 0% battery remaining and turn off, but actually there are still a few %% left in reserve to prevent damage to the battery.
When it reaches 0% just turns down itself, plug in to a charger and in 5min you can boot him up without worries. I forgot it one night @ 6% and when i woke up it was switched off.
Its a battery, and even @ 0% doesnt mean the battery reaches 0mv...
sorry but...OMG
Nothing will happen, the phone is set to shut down at 0% but it's a false reading, in reality the battery still has a few mah in reserve... this is so you don't get sudden loss of power which may result in data loss.
Pandalero said:
How about you just don't let it hit zero? Do you really want to find out the hard way what might happen? You may live if you jump off a bridge, but would you try it? Come on... a little common sense goes a long way.
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Or you could know the simple truth: the phone will turn itself off before the battery discharges too much and thus it's perfectly safe to let it run down. Seriously you think there wouldn't be a massive antenna-gate style scandal if you could ruin your phone just by letting it run down naturally? How many people do you think every single day run out of power on their smartphones?
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If it dies, send it back. Not rocket science is it.
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Well, I think before RMA'ing it he should do some research and try to fix it, in such an occasion. Going straight for the RMA is a bit hasty, and makes Google not want to continue making such great devices for so cheap. I'm sure you didn't mean go straight for RMA, but I wanted to point that out for anyone else reading this.
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As many have pointed out, the battery has it's own circuits to make sure it doesn't reach 0, and to make sure it doesn't over-charge. That's on the battery itself, it has nothing to do with the Nexus 4, the OS, or anything else. You'll be fine. I would still advise in plugging it in at around 10% battery if you can, though.
Thanks for the feedback and help
Johmama said:
Well, I think before RMA'ing it he should do some research and try to fix it, in such an occasion. Going straight for the RMA is a bit hasty, and makes Google not want to continue making such great devices for so cheap. I'm sure you didn't mean go straight for RMA, but I wanted to point that out for anyone else reading this.
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As many have pointed out, the battery has it's own circuits to make sure it doesn't reach 0, and to make sure it doesn't over-charge. That's on the battery itself, it has nothing to do with the Nexus 4, the OS, or anything else. You'll be fine. I would still advise in plugging it in at around 10% battery if you can, though.
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My point is, as consumers, we shouldn`t have to research how to fix a dead phone. Google shouldn`t be discouraged with us, they should be on the case to LG as they design and build the phone.
Most people here do like getting their hands dirty with fixing and flashing etc, but why should a consumer fix a faulty phone when the phone has been used as per correct guidelines> It doesn`t make sense to me...
If you bought a brand new car, eg a 2013 Ford and they were selling it at cost price, would it make you want to repair it yourself if the engine was knackered? Of course not, you would expect the dealer to do it.
Don`t feel bad about RMAing devices... It doesn`t matter if they are brilliant value, you want them right. Google`s business model is obviously working for them, or there wouldn`t be a Nexus 4, hell there wouldn`t even be a Galaxy Nexus... Google have taken all of this into account. If a lot of people are getting rejects, then it`s up to LG to sort it...
Does it say in the instructions that you shouldnt let the battery go completely flat or it will kil the phone? No.
So don`t worry about it.
N10AP said:
My point is, as consumers, we shouldn`t have to research how to fix a dead phone. Google shouldn`t be discouraged with us, they should be on the case to LG as they design and build the phone.
Most people here do like getting their hands dirty with fixing and flashing etc, but why should a consumer fix a faulty phone when the phone has been used as per correct guidelines> It doesn`t make sense to me...
If you bought a brand new car, eg a 2013 Ford and they were selling it at cost price, would it make you want to repair it yourself if the engine was knackered? Of course not, you would expect the dealer to do it.
Don`t feel bad about RMAing devices... It doesn`t matter if they are brilliant value, you want them right. Google`s business model is obviously working for them, or there wouldn`t be a Nexus 4, hell there wouldn`t even be a Galaxy Nexus... Google have taken all of this into account. If a lot of people are getting rejects, then it`s up to LG to sort it...
Does it say in the instructions that you shouldnt let the battery go completely flat or it will kil the phone? No.
So don`t worry about it.
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I agree with you that you shouldn't feel bad when RMA'ing legitimately. I was merely pointing out that when you have a problem, you should do some research to figure out whether it's a common problem with a common and easy fix before you jump right to RMA. Your post was heavily implying that RMA is the first stop fix-all. You probably didn't mean it to imply that, but to some other person coming here and reading it, they would feel nudged into RMA'ing right off. We are saying the same thing, I was just advising anyone else reading this thread to do a 30 second Google search on their problem before plunging right into the RMA process.
N10AP said:
My point is, as consumers, we shouldn`t have to research how to fix a dead phone. Google shouldn`t be discouraged with us, they should be on the case to LG as they design and build the phone.
Most people here do like getting their hands dirty with fixing and flashing etc, but why should a consumer fix a faulty phone when the phone has been used as per correct guidelines> It doesn`t make sense to me...
If you bought a brand new car, eg a 2013 Ford and they were selling it at cost price, would it make you want to repair it yourself if the engine was knackered? Of course not, you would expect the dealer to do it.
Don`t feel bad about RMAing devices... It doesn`t matter if they are brilliant value, you want them right. Google`s business model is obviously working for them, or there wouldn`t be a Nexus 4, hell there wouldn`t even be a Galaxy Nexus... Google have taken all of this into account. If a lot of people are getting rejects, then it`s up to LG to sort it...
Does it say in the instructions that you shouldnt let the battery go completely flat or it will kil the phone? No.
So don`t worry about it.
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Well put... i couldn't have said it better.
N10AP said:
My point is, as consumers, we shouldn`t have to research how to fix a dead phone. Google shouldn`t be discouraged with us, they should be on the case to LG as they design and build the phone.
Most people here do like getting their hands dirty with fixing and flashing etc, but why should a consumer fix a faulty phone when the phone has been used as per correct guidelines> It doesn`t make sense to me...
If you bought a brand new car, eg a 2013 Ford and they were selling it at cost price, would it make you want to repair it yourself if the engine was knackered? Of course not, you would expect the dealer to do it.
Don`t feel bad about RMAing devices... It doesn`t matter if they are brilliant value, you want them right. Google`s business model is obviously working for them, or there wouldn`t be a Nexus 4, hell there wouldn`t even be a Galaxy Nexus... Google have taken all of this into account. If a lot of people are getting rejects, then it`s up to LG to sort it...
Does it say in the instructions that you shouldnt let the battery go completely flat or it will kil the phone? No.
So don`t worry about it.
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Do you also tank gas in your car after the tank is bone dry, all gasfumes are used and the car stopped?
gee2012 said:
Do you also tank gas in your car after the tank is bone dry, all gasfumes are used and the car stopped?
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Sorry can you translate? Trouble understanding u my friend.
If you run out of fuel, you can put more in it and the car isn't dead. With more fuel it will be fine. Bit of a rubbish anology there mate.
I don't know what you are getting at.
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N10AP said:
Sorry can you translate? Trouble understanding u my friend.
If you run out of fuel, you can put more in it and the car isn't dead. With more fuel it will be fine. Bit of a rubbish anology there mate.
I don't know what you are getting at.
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My post looks quite clear to me
If you were to completely drain the battery , somehow. Either charge or replace it. Phone will turn on..
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Yep. It's true that nexus 4s are a little hard to revive after a dead battery. Some revive fine, some die instantly.
I'd say don't get it to 0 though. All batteries will suffer from it.
Sorry if these points have been said already, didn't read the whole thread.