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New galaxy s2, cpu question

Hello fellow galaxy comrades. I've finally bought myself a galaxy s2, I absolutely adore it. But I just have a question, when I use android system info ap its says that I have an ARMv7 processor, however when I check the Internet many sites say it should have an cortex arm9.
My gpu is mali400 which seems fine but I'm just worried i've picked up a variant. I'd rather have the original beast.
Have a picked up a variant?
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You have the correct phone .
Question been asked before .
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Hero Yu said:
Hello fellow galaxy comrades. I've finally bought myself a galaxy s2, I absolutely adore it. But I just have a question, when I use android system info ap its says that I have an ARMv7 processor, however when I check the Internet many sites say it should have an cortex arm9.
My gpu is mali400 which seems fine but I'm just worried i've picked up a variant. I'd rather have the original beast.
Have a picked up a variant?
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As legit as a bar of gold my friend...the terms you see are purely technical terms hence the variance. Not to worry, the other variant (cut down version) has LCD rather than LED (not as bright, vibrant or wow factor), has Nvidia chipset (slower than Mali). So I would be surprised if you were even able to purchase the variant (Samsung I9103) since it has not been released for sale. Specification of the variant...

Thank you for your quick reply, I'll be hitting that thanks button when I get to a computer
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ARMvX is the architecture, the cortex A9 is an ARMv7 design.
Also you may notice that some programs say only 1 core, but thats due to the phone hotpluging (aka adding and removing while the power is on) the 2nd core as and when needed to save power.

Just make sure the box says GT-9100 and you're all good. There were no CPU variants with this product code.
I think the Nvidia Tegra II version is the GT-9103

what if you get i9250!!!
omg droolz~~
well just incase the OP take this seriously; its in IFA consumer electronics Samsung device lineup.
Samsung I9250 (W48) - 4.65" SuperAMOLED of HD resolution (1280x720 pixels), Android Ice Cream sandwich, 5 MP camera.

lol thank you all for your kind responses,puts me at ease. I shall be thanking you all.

Exynos::vs::qualcomm

Samsung Exynos processors are power clocked to churn extreme processing.
But what's the difference between the Exynos and Qualcomm processors that are glued on Note 2.
Who's the beast and who's the cheetah Please help me, clarify the doubt.
THANKS • JB • XD/\PP

I think the exynos is the best in it's class, always has been.

VR.gtmini said:
Samsung Exynos processors are power clocked to churn extreme processing.
But what's the difference between the Exynos and Qualcomm processors that are glued on Note 2.
Who's the beast and who's the cheetah Please help me, clarify the doubt.
THANKS • JB • XD/\PP
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http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...vs-samsung-exynos-tablet-processor-benchmarks
or
http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&scli...pw.r_qf.&fp=cbd186cbbddc8760&biw=1366&bih=673

The S4 Pro is a bit more advanced as it's architecture is newer than current exynos and wins most benchmarks, but I can't imagine any performance differences large enough you'd notice. They're close enough that optimization will be deciding factor...and it's probably correct to trust Sammy more with their own processors.

johnchad14 said:
The S4 Pro is a bit more advanced as it's architecture is newer than current exynos and wins most benchmarks, but I can't imagine any performance differences large enough you'd notice. They're close enough that optimization will be deciding factor...and it's probably correct to trust Sammy more with their own processors.
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This and the Exynos comes with a better DAC.
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Few months to go nd it will be s4 pro quad core vs exyones 5250 dual core
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I have an AT&T Note with the Qualcom hardware and an N7000 note with the Exynos hardware. To get the performance I want (no lag and good battery life), I had to root the Qualcom model and use custom ROMs. The unrooted N7000 international version runs with little lag and better battery life. It also has the hardware for FM Radio which I use all the time but no AT&T band 17 LTE.
I sincerely, hope that the AT&T Note II will have the Exynos Quad Core stuff from Samsung rather than the Qualcom hardware. You can perform all the benchmarks you want. They don't really mean that much. It's the total user experience that counts. Exynos delivers. If you want best benchmarks, buy one of the new HTC products. You'll be back to Samsung in no time.
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It's not even a question anymore. Samsung already stated in their press release that the US versions are coming with the exynos soc.
"Galaxy Note II marks the U.S. debut of Samsung’s Exynos™ 1.6 GHz quad-core processor optimized for LTE networks. It has 2GB of internal RAM; and comes with 16 GB of onboard file storage and supports up to 64GB of additional memory with a microSD® card."
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20276

It looks like from a development standpoint, Qualcomms Snapdragon SoC is the better choice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31873214&postcount=7773

Judging by the comments on Google Play the top games have best compatibility and performance with Exynos versus Snapdragon.

mi7chy said:
Judging by the comments on Google Play the top games have best compatibility and performance with Exynos versus Snapdragon.
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And the most compatibility and assortment of games come from imagination technologies gpus. I want me some rogue already.
will key lime pie add another row of apps to my homescreen?

iahk said:
It's not even a question anymore. Samsung already stated in their press release that the US versions are coming with the exynos soc.
"Galaxy Note II marks the U.S. debut of Samsung’s Exynos™ 1.6 GHz quad-core processor optimized for LTE networks. It has 2GB of internal RAM; and comes with 16 GB of onboard file storage and supports up to 64GB of additional memory with a microSD® card."
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20276
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I saw this but will believe it when I see it. AT&T has had a sad history of removing features from Samsung's phones. It began with the AT&T Captivate which was a Galaxy S sans the front facing camera and the FM radio. I had to buy the Canadian Galaxy S Vibrant to get these features and have the phone work on AT&T's 3G network. (I still have this phone with it's hummingbird processor which was the predecessor to Exynos. It is running Cyanogen 10 extremely well with all features working.)
When the Galaxy SII came out for AT&T there was no FM radio or it was disabled. I bought the international version with Exynos hardware in which Samsung had put the appropriate radios for AT&T 3G and the FM radio.
I did not buy the SIII from AT&T for exactly the same reason - it had the Qualcom hardware without the FM radio. Don't get me wrong, the Qualcom hardware us good; it's just not the best. It may be easier for developers to hack. However, Samsung has done a great job of frequently updating its software for the international Exynos packing models of its phones. Samsung's software running on the Exynos hardware is arguably better than any custom ROM especially for the Note. My international Note is running the very latest stock German ROM from Samsung. It runs almost as fast as my AT&T Note that is running some of the best custom ROMs, but all the features work perfectly including the S-Pen apps and Samsung's S-Planner apps which are the best task/scheduling apps I've seen to date.
God bless Samsung for it's amazing I-Phone killing products and it's ability to hopefully, finally keep AT&T from dumbing down its US offerings.
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rambo6 said:
I saw this but will believe it when I see it. AT&T has had a sad history of removing features from Samsung's phones. It began with the AT&T Captivate which was a Galaxy S sans the front facing camera and the FM radio. I had to buy the Canadian Galaxy S Vibrant to get these features and have the phone work on AT&T's 3G network. (I still have this phone with it's hummingbird processor which was the predecessor to Exynos. It is running Cyanogen 10 extremely well with all features working.)
When the Galaxy SII came out for AT&T there was no FM radio or it was disabled. I bought the international version with Exynos hardware in which Samsung had put the appropriate radios for AT&T 3G and the FM radio.
I did not buy the SIII from AT&T for exactly the same reason - it had the Qualcom hardware without the FM radio. Don't get me wrong, the Qualcom hardware us good; it's just not the best. It may be easier for developers to hack. However, Samsung has done a great job of frequently updating its software for the international Exynos packing models of its phones. Samsung's software running on the Exynos hardware is arguably better than any custom ROM especially for the Note. My international Note is running the very latest stock German ROM from Samsung. It runs almost as fast as my AT&T Note that is running some of the best custom ROMs, but all the features work perfectly including the S-Pen apps and Samsung's S-Planner apps which are the best task/scheduling apps I've seen to date.
God bless Samsung for it's amazing I-Phone killing products and it's ability to hopefully, finally keep AT&T from dumbing down its US offerings.
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It's one thing to remove an app its another to swap an entire cpu architecture. The only reason the cpu difference was there for the gs3 was due to wireless incompatibility issues. Now that the chips support our lte infrastructure, we will see identical hardware sans maybe body color as the international version.
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I'm about 50/50 on the AT&T Note II.
Positives:
It's the evil I know - same SoC as I9300, so most of the hard AOSP bringup work has been done already
Performance beast with one of the best screens available
Negatives:
Exynos is going to suck in terms of AOSP bringups when the next version of Android comes out. Look at the Exynos 4210 - No solid reliable ICS until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source. Look at 4412 - no solid reliable JB until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source.
If a device has reference platform source (CAF for Qcom, omapzoom for OMAP), it has a major advantage in terms of early AOSP bringup. Of course, this advantage is negated if the manufacturer diverges significantly from the reference source (HTC is notorious for this, so is Samsung - their handsets don't even remotely match what reference source does exist. So it's going to be bad news for AOSP work unless Samsung makes major changes. I see no evidence of this - they pride themselves in withholding documentation and source code. Hell, they barely even bother with GPL compliance, at least 50% of their source releases don't even remotely match the shipping kernels on the device. (See the Tab 2 source fiasco, no Note 10.1 source drop matches any shipped kernel and in fact none of them have a reliable wifi driver, I9300 update5 source has Mali r3p0 drivers but the first Kies deployment has r2p4 drivers...)
AT&T in general... I may hold off on LTE phones until more is known about whether Straight Talk will allow the LTE capabilities of AT&T's network to be used. (My current plan is to ditch AT&T as soon as my contract is up...)

Man, i wish the oem's would get on the ics/jb train already. Finding a great phone with the software navigation buttons is tricky. Sony and asus are on board, but sony has a couple shortcomings with battery life and phone design and asus needs to release official specs on padfone 2 to seriously consider. Samsung needs to ditch the physical button already. I think they have made enough noise and made some appler's turn their heads for a second. Samsung drop the button and get with the aosp program already! Damn koreans.
will key lime pie add another row of apps to my homescreen?

Man when would this Samsung, te4(exyones5250) device release I want to see it perform
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Entropy512 said:
I'm about 50/50 on the AT&T Note II.
Positives:
It's the evil I know - same SoC as I9300, so most of the hard AOSP bringup work has been done already
Performance beast with one of the best screens available
Negatives:
Exynos is going to suck in terms of AOSP bringups when the next version of Android comes out. Look at the Exynos 4210 - No solid reliable ICS until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source. Look at 4412 - no solid reliable JB until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source.
If a device has reference platform source (CAF for Qcom, omapzoom for OMAP), it has a major advantage in terms of early AOSP bringup. Of course, this advantage is negated if the manufacturer diverges significantly from the reference source (HTC is notorious for this, so is Samsung - their handsets don't even remotely match what reference source does exist. So it's going to be bad news for AOSP work unless Samsung makes major changes. I see no evidence of this - they pride themselves in withholding documentation and source code. Hell, they barely even bother with GPL compliance, at least 50% of their source releases don't even remotely match the shipping kernels on the device. (See the Tab 2 source fiasco, no Note 10.1 source drop matches any shipped kernel and in fact none of them have a reliable wifi driver, I9300 update5 source has Mali r3p0 drivers but the first Kies deployment has r2p4 drivers...)
AT&T in general... I may hold off on LTE phones until more is known about whether Straight Talk will allow the LTE capabilities of AT&T's network to be used. (My current plan is to ditch AT&T as soon as my contract is up...)
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I do agree with this. It's much easier to hack and modify the Qualcom hardware. I'm running Flapjaxx's A0SP JB on my AT&T Note. It's awesome, however, I love Samsung's S-Pen and S-Planner software. I use my N7000 primarily for work with the latest stock ROM. I performs extremely well. I uswe the AT&T Note for goofing around. I wish I could put the S-Planner and S-Pen apps on an AOSP JB rom. Because the Note is so big, I like using the N7000 button on front to turn it on.
There's no doubt the Qualcom hardware has some advantages. However, for running a stock samsung ROM, the Exynos is hard to beat.
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Qualcomm is just good in benchmarks not in real life compared to Exynos
As you can see S3 US "Qualcomm Krait" gave higher scores in benchmarks as One S but actually it lags!
See from the 01:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dByCdDVXCmQ

morning thunder said:
Qualcomm is just good in benchmarks not in real life compared to Exynos
As you can see S3 US "Qualcomm Krait" gave higher scores in benchmarks as One S but actually it lags!
See from the 01:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dByCdDVXCmQ
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Gpu sux on dual core s4
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Despite being 32nm Vs 28nm in my experience the Exynos quad has better battery life than the S4 dual core. I own an AT&T S3 and an Exynos one, and with identical use the international one runs cooler and gets 30+ minutes more screen-on time. Both of those things will likely come down to the High-potassium metal gate technology in the Exynos - less voltage leakage=more battery, less dispersal of leakage as heat.

POLL: I9500 OR I9505, What will you buy?

I would like to know whether you guys will prefer either snapdragon 600 or exynos powered samsung galaxy s4, what it'll do is making it easy for us to understand which one will have more development support, so i'll and many others will buy that one. Thanks
EDIT: Here is Exynos's Benchmark results and comparison with Snapdragon 600 powered S4 and other devices:
Octa-core Galaxy S4 benchmarks surface, live up to expectations

hspa+ in my area is solid plus att lte starting to slow up in my area, i am guessing due to more lte phones. the exynos 5 octa is better in every way it looks like and i prefer touch wiz to cm, it is more productive (imo). i hope to get it in new york when i am up there april 26th in one of the import electronic shops.

You wont find it in store here in the u.s. I prefer exynos chip too but im not getting it due to cost and no lte. Going to renew my contract and get s600 around release. Hoping to find some good deal offerings

I checked the SamMobile website and it said Australia is getting the SD600 but if I only want 3g/2g do I still have to use the SD600 variant. If I can choose I WILL go for the E5O version

porkaysi said:
hspa+ in my area is solid plus att lte starting to slow up in my area, i am guessing due to more lte phones. the exynos 5 octa is better in every way it looks like cm, touch wiz is more productive (imo). i hope to get it in new york when i am up there april 26th in one of the import electronic shops.
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I am glad to find that people prefers Exynos more then Snapdragon 600, obviously because it's battery efficient faster, but i guess many of them have to import it, even i guess you also have to import Exynos one from Asia or other region, because i saw Samsung has shortage of Exynos, so 70% will get Snapdragon 600, but in my country there will be only i9500,

bedi.gursimran said:
I checked the SamMobile website and it said Australia is getting the SD600 but if I only want 3g/2g do I still have to use the SD600 variant. If I can choose I WILL go for the E5O version
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Yeah this is bit of setback, i wish Samsung must provide LTE Capable phone for everyone, it's not there headache whether a particular country supports it or not, can't really understand these manufacturers logic these days..my main concern is only if we get very fewer number of i9500, then of course development for them will be very minimal, and in my country we'll only get i9500

As per my country I will receive S4 9400.
BTW it is related to Q/A forum.

kataria.vikesh said:
As per my country I will receive S4 9400.
BTW it is related to Q/A forum.
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Well i don't think it's related to Q/A Answer section, i feel it should be in General, just like every other similar POLLS on xda.

if india had a choice between 9500/9505 , i would blindly choose exynos. Its not only about the raw power, but about the big little architecture. Cant wait to test it and play around it. defenitely something different than a traditional cpu .
with a7 cores used for movie play back and call and at sleep, i strongly assume the battery would last much longer than any other s4 variants.

bala_gamer said:
if india had a choice between 9500/9505 , i would blindly choose exynos. Its not only about the raw power, but about the big little architecture. Cant wait to test it and play around it. defenitely something different than a traditional cpu .
with a7 cores used for movie play back and call and at sleep, i strongly assume the battery would last much longer than any other s4 variants.
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This is the reason why i guess people are looking more towards Exynos, i.e. longer battery life, your ideas are really helping me here, my first Exynos device this S4 will be i am searching for some leak to know which 70% countries are getting SD600/i9505, i wish Asia will not

R: POLL: I9500 OR I9505, What will you buy?
In Italy I will choose I9500 version (I don't care about LTE because here it's very expensive and not widespread)
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E5O by miles.
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I'll be purchasing 19500
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I9500 because well, I don't have any other choice. There's no 4G network either in my country.

IF I buy one: I9505.
Exynos makes me mad, I'm developing AOSP ROMs.

Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.

I9500 as I already have htc one with SD600 not that there is anything wrong with SD600 also I dont use 4G so don't need a 4G capable phone.

-A-P-M- said:
Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.
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no surprise here, what if they dont care about aosp? frankly the gap between aosp and stock roms are getting bigger day by day. apart from the sleekness aosp provides it is struggling hard to match the potential of stock roms(not only samsung roms,add htc and sony roms to this list).
xploidwild started a movement some time back to add more functionality to "CM". sadly i dont know the current state of that movement.
Also, the cm support for 9500 would come eventually , but its going to be harder this time with teamhacksung saying no. There are few sources of exynos 5 dual out there somewhere which might help the new cm developers.
I dont want a fully working aosp for 9500, but would be happy to see nightlies just like s2 or s3.

bala_gamer said:
no surprise here, what if they dont care about aosp? frankly the gap between aosp and stock roms are getting bigger day by day. apart from the sleekness aosp provides it is struggling hard to match the potential of stock roms(not only samsung roms,add htc and sony roms to this list).
xploidwild started a movement some time back to add more functionality to "CM". sadly i dont know the current state of that movement.
Also, the cm support for 9500 would come eventually , but its going to be harder this time with teamhacksung saying no. There are few sources of exynos 5 dual out there somewhere which might help the new cm developers.
I dont want a fully working aosp for 9500, but would be happy to see nightlies just like s2 or s3.
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Don't forget, devices which doesn't get official CM Support still gets unofficial cm ports, like Desire Z etc, we may get unofficial ports, or even cm support lately for Exynos based devices, for example note 3 etc...

-A-P-M- said:
Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.
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It's actually only one member of the team who said that the others came out and said 1 member doesn't speak for the team and that as for every other phone they will never announce supporting or not supporting until a device is actually launched
S4 INFO

Wait for Galaxy S4 LTE-A?

Was waiting for GS4 Octa 32GB to arrive in UAE and it is available now but this LTE-A variant has Snapdragon 800 and Adreno 330 which is definitely faster than the original version, I am not able to decide if I should get the 32GB version now or wait for the LTE-A, will Samsung release this internationally? I change my phone in two years so I want something which doesn't get outdated soon.

Wait for the LTE as it supports 4g and support glse 3.0 and has better battery life so it cud spend more time with u
but if u want a phone for 2 years dont choose samsung because its screen burns and becomes bad after sometime

qazmed said:
Wait for the LTE as it supports 4g and support glse 3.0 and has better battery life so it cud spend more time with u
but if u want a phone for 2 years dont choose samsung because its screen burns and becomes bad after sometime
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Well I am using S2 from the last two years and no issues with the screen so far, I don't care about 4G, the choice is in between Exynos Octa and Snapdragon 800.

most likely won't come international. Samsung always releases a korea only version, as their networks are generally more advanced then the rest of the world (not as good as Japan's networks though).

qazmed said:
Wait for the LTE as it supports 4g and support glse 3.0 and has better battery life so it cud spend more time with u
but if u want a phone for 2 years dont choose samsung because its screen burns and becomes bad after sometime
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most likely won't come international. Samsung always releases a korea only version, as their networks are generally more advanced then the rest of the world (not as good as Japan's networks though).
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I hope they don't release it internationally or it will definitely annoy existing S4 users.

ila420 said:
Well I am using S2 from the last two years and no issues with the screen so far, I don't care about 4G, the choice is in between Exynos Octa and Snapdragon 800.
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Most users dnt see it but it is there and mostly in black screen
there is a thread abt it in the general forum check it out

qazmed said:
Most users dnt see it but it is there and mostly in black screen
there is a thread abt it in the general forum check it out
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So you mean S4 is not a good choice if I want to keep the phone for two years, what about S4 Active it has TFT screen but will have to compromise in internal memory as it has only 11GB available for usage.

ila420 said:
So you mean S4 is not a good choice if I want to keep the phone for two years, what about S4 Active it has TFT screen but will have to compromise in internal memory as it has only 11GB available for usage.
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W8 for note 3 they say it will have lcd screen i wish if i had w8ed for note 3 i prefer phablets over phines

qazmed said:
W8 for note 3 they say it will have lcd screen i wish if i had w8ed for note 3 i prefer phablets over phines
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Phablet is too big for me, I don't like any phone more than 5 inches, S4 fits best but with so many variants it is really difficult to decide what to get which can be with you for a long time, 32GB plus point for I9500, Screen plus point for Active and Snapdragon 800 plus point for LTE-A, it is really confusing.

Just one last question, the Octa version has powervr SGX 544MP3 and Snapdragon one has Adreno 320, was reading on the web that only Adreno 320 will support opengl es3.0 which will come with Android 4.3.
Does this mean PowerVR is not future proof?

ila420 said:
Just one last question, the Octa version has powervr SGX 544MP3 and Snapdragon one has Adreno 320, was reading on the web that only Adreno 320 will support opengl es3.0 which will come with Android 4.3.
Does this mean PowerVR is not future proof?
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Nothing is future proof .
Get the S600.
North Americans use that device... my experience is that devices that have more North Americans using it tend to have more developer support... possibly because they have alot of programmers over there ?
The long and short is long after Samsung stops releasing updates for the phone teams like Cyanogen will still support it.
Secondly Google Edition runs on tbe S600
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ila420 said:
Just one last question, the Octa version has powervr SGX 544MP3 and Snapdragon one has Adreno 320, was reading on the web that only Adreno 320 will support opengl es3.0 which will come with Android 4.3.
Does this mean PowerVR is not future proof?
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I am also in uae.. I choose i9505..its best for the future.. Supports opengl es 3.0, the hardware is same as that of google edition s4..so you will get updates faster(aosp) & may be even after samsung stops updating the s4..s600 is more developer friendly than the exynos version.. So you will have so many mods or coustom roms etc
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Will we realistically get development?

With Knox and the snapdragon version coming out. What are the realistic chances of getting quality custom ROMs for our awesome tablets.
thoughts?

Snapdragon? The current 2014 has a Snapdragon. Is there another version of the 10.1 coming?
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The Note 10.1 2014 only comes with a Snapdragon 800 as far as I know...

The currently released version (WiFi) of the GN10.1 2014 has an octa-core Exynos5. NOT the new Snapdragon. Considering just how much coverage went into the big.LITTLE architecture, an the various enquiries and wariness on the parts of reviewers about the Exynos Chip as compared to the Snapdragon, just how many people DIDN'T know about it?
I mean, it's a MAJOR decision maker/breaker for some people!

My thought exactly. I am considering this tablet but am worried that there will be no development since its exynos and not snapdragon.
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I have seen nothing suggest there's a Snapdragon version coming out.
That said, can someone tell me why that would halt development?

AFAIK Samsung does not release any source code for exynos stuff while Qualcomm does release code for the snapdragon processors. But I could be mistaken.
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Sorry, I thought it as common kmowledge. The wifi models have two quad core processors rather than one snapdragon 800 chip set.
The result is a component developers are not experienced in working with and no available source code (?).
The potential of the dual quad core (octa core) is huge! We just need to get devs on board.

Romokos said:
Sorry, I thought it as common kmowledge. The wifi models have two quad core processors rather than one snapdragon 800 chip set.
The result is a component developers are not experienced in working with and no available source code (?).
The potential of the dual quad core (octa core) is huge! We just need to get devs on board.
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Unfortunately, I don't think the price is going to help :fingers-crossed:

Honestly, The Note is the only one of my devices where I never got rid of TW. Not that I like it, I hate it and will theme it out so it's not so ugly, use a different launcher etc.. but the TW features on the note is what I buy the note for. Especially how deeply integrated the S-pen features are. Sure there are other note taking apps out there (lecture notes.. etc) but I always preferred s-note, and now on the 2014 model even more so, s-note is a lot better now. I think using an AOSP based rom on this type of device is kinda a waste but that's just my opinion. I usually will theme it out to look as much as stock android as I can.. All my other devices I'm constantly flashing stuff on. My old note 10.1 has been running the same rom for about a year. haha

ckelly33 said:
Snapdragon? The current 2014 has a Snapdragon. Is there another version of the 10.1 coming?
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Actually, both the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the Galaxy Note III have an Exynos 5420 Octa Core-
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/products5octa.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos

californiarailroader said:
Actually, both the Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the Galaxy Note III have an Exynos 5420 Octa Core-
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/products5octa.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exynos
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You are right.
As far as the OP goes, I don't think there is any word that a snapdragon version is coming out, is there?

As far as I know, Wifi-only versions (P600) get Exynos while 3G (P603) et 4G (P605) have Snapdragon S800.
I have a 4G version and it clearly has a S800 in it.
Now looking forward to get root and remove most of Samsung bloatware...

NM, delete this.

According to this Engadget review
With the 2014 Note 10.1, you'll find yourself using one of two chips: the 3G and WiFi-only versions come with an octa-core Exynos 5420 chipset built in, while the LTE unit features a 2.3GHz quad-core Snapdragon 800.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/01/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-review-2014-edition/

allan1313 said:
My thought exactly. I am considering this tablet but am worried that there will be no development since its exynos and not snapdragon.
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I wouldn't worry too much....
The previous WiFi version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 was also an Exynos chip, and Development for it seems to be just fine here on XDA.

Mr_Armageddon said:
I wouldn't worry too much....
The previous WiFi version of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 was also an Exynos chip, and Development for it seems to be just fine here on XDA.
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Good to know. I think I will wait to see what the new nexus 10 will offer and decide then.
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