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Samsung Exynos processors are power clocked to churn extreme processing.
But what's the difference between the Exynos and Qualcomm processors that are glued on Note 2.
Who's the beast and who's the cheetah Please help me, clarify the doubt.
THANKS • JB • XD/\PP

I think the exynos is the best in it's class, always has been.

VR.gtmini said:
Samsung Exynos processors are power clocked to churn extreme processing.
But what's the difference between the Exynos and Qualcomm processors that are glued on Note 2.
Who's the beast and who's the cheetah Please help me, clarify the doubt.
THANKS • JB • XD/\PP
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http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer...vs-samsung-exynos-tablet-processor-benchmarks
or
http://www.google.co.in/#hl=en&scli...pw.r_qf.&fp=cbd186cbbddc8760&biw=1366&bih=673

The S4 Pro is a bit more advanced as it's architecture is newer than current exynos and wins most benchmarks, but I can't imagine any performance differences large enough you'd notice. They're close enough that optimization will be deciding factor...and it's probably correct to trust Sammy more with their own processors.

johnchad14 said:
The S4 Pro is a bit more advanced as it's architecture is newer than current exynos and wins most benchmarks, but I can't imagine any performance differences large enough you'd notice. They're close enough that optimization will be deciding factor...and it's probably correct to trust Sammy more with their own processors.
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This and the Exynos comes with a better DAC.
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Few months to go nd it will be s4 pro quad core vs exyones 5250 dual core
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I have an AT&T Note with the Qualcom hardware and an N7000 note with the Exynos hardware. To get the performance I want (no lag and good battery life), I had to root the Qualcom model and use custom ROMs. The unrooted N7000 international version runs with little lag and better battery life. It also has the hardware for FM Radio which I use all the time but no AT&T band 17 LTE.
I sincerely, hope that the AT&T Note II will have the Exynos Quad Core stuff from Samsung rather than the Qualcom hardware. You can perform all the benchmarks you want. They don't really mean that much. It's the total user experience that counts. Exynos delivers. If you want best benchmarks, buy one of the new HTC products. You'll be back to Samsung in no time.
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It's not even a question anymore. Samsung already stated in their press release that the US versions are coming with the exynos soc.
"Galaxy Note II marks the U.S. debut of Samsung’s Exynos™ 1.6 GHz quad-core processor optimized for LTE networks. It has 2GB of internal RAM; and comes with 16 GB of onboard file storage and supports up to 64GB of additional memory with a microSD® card."
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20276

It looks like from a development standpoint, Qualcomms Snapdragon SoC is the better choice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31873214&postcount=7773

Judging by the comments on Google Play the top games have best compatibility and performance with Exynos versus Snapdragon.

mi7chy said:
Judging by the comments on Google Play the top games have best compatibility and performance with Exynos versus Snapdragon.
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And the most compatibility and assortment of games come from imagination technologies gpus. I want me some rogue already.
will key lime pie add another row of apps to my homescreen?

iahk said:
It's not even a question anymore. Samsung already stated in their press release that the US versions are coming with the exynos soc.
"Galaxy Note II marks the U.S. debut of Samsung’s Exynos™ 1.6 GHz quad-core processor optimized for LTE networks. It has 2GB of internal RAM; and comes with 16 GB of onboard file storage and supports up to 64GB of additional memory with a microSD® card."
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/20276
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I saw this but will believe it when I see it. AT&T has had a sad history of removing features from Samsung's phones. It began with the AT&T Captivate which was a Galaxy S sans the front facing camera and the FM radio. I had to buy the Canadian Galaxy S Vibrant to get these features and have the phone work on AT&T's 3G network. (I still have this phone with it's hummingbird processor which was the predecessor to Exynos. It is running Cyanogen 10 extremely well with all features working.)
When the Galaxy SII came out for AT&T there was no FM radio or it was disabled. I bought the international version with Exynos hardware in which Samsung had put the appropriate radios for AT&T 3G and the FM radio.
I did not buy the SIII from AT&T for exactly the same reason - it had the Qualcom hardware without the FM radio. Don't get me wrong, the Qualcom hardware us good; it's just not the best. It may be easier for developers to hack. However, Samsung has done a great job of frequently updating its software for the international Exynos packing models of its phones. Samsung's software running on the Exynos hardware is arguably better than any custom ROM especially for the Note. My international Note is running the very latest stock German ROM from Samsung. It runs almost as fast as my AT&T Note that is running some of the best custom ROMs, but all the features work perfectly including the S-Pen apps and Samsung's S-Planner apps which are the best task/scheduling apps I've seen to date.
God bless Samsung for it's amazing I-Phone killing products and it's ability to hopefully, finally keep AT&T from dumbing down its US offerings.
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rambo6 said:
I saw this but will believe it when I see it. AT&T has had a sad history of removing features from Samsung's phones. It began with the AT&T Captivate which was a Galaxy S sans the front facing camera and the FM radio. I had to buy the Canadian Galaxy S Vibrant to get these features and have the phone work on AT&T's 3G network. (I still have this phone with it's hummingbird processor which was the predecessor to Exynos. It is running Cyanogen 10 extremely well with all features working.)
When the Galaxy SII came out for AT&T there was no FM radio or it was disabled. I bought the international version with Exynos hardware in which Samsung had put the appropriate radios for AT&T 3G and the FM radio.
I did not buy the SIII from AT&T for exactly the same reason - it had the Qualcom hardware without the FM radio. Don't get me wrong, the Qualcom hardware us good; it's just not the best. It may be easier for developers to hack. However, Samsung has done a great job of frequently updating its software for the international Exynos packing models of its phones. Samsung's software running on the Exynos hardware is arguably better than any custom ROM especially for the Note. My international Note is running the very latest stock German ROM from Samsung. It runs almost as fast as my AT&T Note that is running some of the best custom ROMs, but all the features work perfectly including the S-Pen apps and Samsung's S-Planner apps which are the best task/scheduling apps I've seen to date.
God bless Samsung for it's amazing I-Phone killing products and it's ability to hopefully, finally keep AT&T from dumbing down its US offerings.
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It's one thing to remove an app its another to swap an entire cpu architecture. The only reason the cpu difference was there for the gs3 was due to wireless incompatibility issues. Now that the chips support our lte infrastructure, we will see identical hardware sans maybe body color as the international version.
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I'm about 50/50 on the AT&T Note II.
Positives:
It's the evil I know - same SoC as I9300, so most of the hard AOSP bringup work has been done already
Performance beast with one of the best screens available
Negatives:
Exynos is going to suck in terms of AOSP bringups when the next version of Android comes out. Look at the Exynos 4210 - No solid reliable ICS until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source. Look at 4412 - no solid reliable JB until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source.
If a device has reference platform source (CAF for Qcom, omapzoom for OMAP), it has a major advantage in terms of early AOSP bringup. Of course, this advantage is negated if the manufacturer diverges significantly from the reference source (HTC is notorious for this, so is Samsung - their handsets don't even remotely match what reference source does exist. So it's going to be bad news for AOSP work unless Samsung makes major changes. I see no evidence of this - they pride themselves in withholding documentation and source code. Hell, they barely even bother with GPL compliance, at least 50% of their source releases don't even remotely match the shipping kernels on the device. (See the Tab 2 source fiasco, no Note 10.1 source drop matches any shipped kernel and in fact none of them have a reliable wifi driver, I9300 update5 source has Mali r3p0 drivers but the first Kies deployment has r2p4 drivers...)
AT&T in general... I may hold off on LTE phones until more is known about whether Straight Talk will allow the LTE capabilities of AT&T's network to be used. (My current plan is to ditch AT&T as soon as my contract is up...)

Man, i wish the oem's would get on the ics/jb train already. Finding a great phone with the software navigation buttons is tricky. Sony and asus are on board, but sony has a couple shortcomings with battery life and phone design and asus needs to release official specs on padfone 2 to seriously consider. Samsung needs to ditch the physical button already. I think they have made enough noise and made some appler's turn their heads for a second. Samsung drop the button and get with the aosp program already! Damn koreans.
will key lime pie add another row of apps to my homescreen?

Man when would this Samsung, te4(exyones5250) device release I want to see it perform
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Entropy512 said:
I'm about 50/50 on the AT&T Note II.
Positives:
It's the evil I know - same SoC as I9300, so most of the hard AOSP bringup work has been done already
Performance beast with one of the best screens available
Negatives:
Exynos is going to suck in terms of AOSP bringups when the next version of Android comes out. Look at the Exynos 4210 - No solid reliable ICS until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source. Look at 4412 - no solid reliable JB until Samsung dropped blobs and kernel source.
If a device has reference platform source (CAF for Qcom, omapzoom for OMAP), it has a major advantage in terms of early AOSP bringup. Of course, this advantage is negated if the manufacturer diverges significantly from the reference source (HTC is notorious for this, so is Samsung - their handsets don't even remotely match what reference source does exist. So it's going to be bad news for AOSP work unless Samsung makes major changes. I see no evidence of this - they pride themselves in withholding documentation and source code. Hell, they barely even bother with GPL compliance, at least 50% of their source releases don't even remotely match the shipping kernels on the device. (See the Tab 2 source fiasco, no Note 10.1 source drop matches any shipped kernel and in fact none of them have a reliable wifi driver, I9300 update5 source has Mali r3p0 drivers but the first Kies deployment has r2p4 drivers...)
AT&T in general... I may hold off on LTE phones until more is known about whether Straight Talk will allow the LTE capabilities of AT&T's network to be used. (My current plan is to ditch AT&T as soon as my contract is up...)
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I do agree with this. It's much easier to hack and modify the Qualcom hardware. I'm running Flapjaxx's A0SP JB on my AT&T Note. It's awesome, however, I love Samsung's S-Pen and S-Planner software. I use my N7000 primarily for work with the latest stock ROM. I performs extremely well. I uswe the AT&T Note for goofing around. I wish I could put the S-Planner and S-Pen apps on an AOSP JB rom. Because the Note is so big, I like using the N7000 button on front to turn it on.
There's no doubt the Qualcom hardware has some advantages. However, for running a stock samsung ROM, the Exynos is hard to beat.
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Qualcomm is just good in benchmarks not in real life compared to Exynos
As you can see S3 US "Qualcomm Krait" gave higher scores in benchmarks as One S but actually it lags!
See from the 01:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dByCdDVXCmQ

morning thunder said:
Qualcomm is just good in benchmarks not in real life compared to Exynos
As you can see S3 US "Qualcomm Krait" gave higher scores in benchmarks as One S but actually it lags!
See from the 01:09
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dByCdDVXCmQ
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Gpu sux on dual core s4
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Despite being 32nm Vs 28nm in my experience the Exynos quad has better battery life than the S4 dual core. I own an AT&T S3 and an Exynos one, and with identical use the international one runs cooler and gets 30+ minutes more screen-on time. Both of those things will likely come down to the High-potassium metal gate technology in the Exynos - less voltage leakage=more battery, less dispersal of leakage as heat.

Developer support for I9500 and I9505?

Developer support for SGS 4. difference betwen I9500 and I9505?​
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?

dafabsl said:
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
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The I9505 version will get the best support due to it being a snapdragon.
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recklesslife85 said:
The I9505 version will get the best support due to it being a snapdragon.
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Only for AOSP roms.
For stock-base roms and kernels, I guess the Octa version will get the update quicker and more frequent than Snapdragon version.

hung2900 said:
Only for AOSP roms.
For stock-base roms and kernels, I guess the Octa version will get the update quicker and more frequent than Snapdragon version.
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I'm confused now.. the I9505 version is the one with Octa, isn't it?

dafabsl said:
Developer support for SGS 4. difference betwen I9500 and I9505?​
I'm going to buy a Galaxy S4, but the question is what do you think, will there be more people developing ROMS for the Version without Octa processor or with Octa processor?
I'm asking that because I own a Galaxy S and there was the same situation with the Galaxy S Plus, as there were only few people developing for SGS+
Will you buy a I9500 or a I9505?
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PERSONAL OPINION WARNING
Many of us are probably getting the Snapdragon version. Easier to develop plus many devices are using it.

dafabsl said:
I'm confused now.. the I9505 version is the one with Octa, isn't it?
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No that's snapdragon
S4 INFO

TingTingin said:
No that's snapdragon
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daaaamn..
this german site here http://www.cnet.de/88108212/samsung-galaxy-s4-exynos-octa-5-kommt-nach-deutschland/
said the i9505 would be the one with octa :/
I really hoped that, because i won't use lte and in Austria we almost don't use lte and lte is really expensive, and I read that the Octa processor will be better for battery life

I just checked u guys are getting both
www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20/your-c...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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TingTingin said:
I just checked u guys are getting both
www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20/your-c...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
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Thank you!
I know that germans get both versions.. but i'm austrian :/
We only get the quad version..
I'm thinking about buying a octa version in germany with shipping to austria .. It really would be stupid to have a LTE device wihtout access to lte...

dafabsl said:
Thank you!
I know that germans get both versions.. but i'm austrian :/
We only get the quad version..
I'm thinking about buying a octa version in germany with shipping to austria .. It really would be stupid to have a LTE device wihtout access to lte...
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The quad core version is also going to have more dev support though
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TingTingin said:
The quad core version is also going to have more dev support though
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hard decision for me :/
the main question will be how better the battery life will be with octa .. :/

dafabsl said:
hard decision for me :/
the main question will be how better the battery life will be with octa .. :/
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Octa is actually better in terms if power battery efficiency and gaming
But snapdragon is better for dev support and it has LTE
I'm going with the Exynos myself
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TingTingin said:
Octa is actually better in terms if power battery efficiency and gaming
But snapdragon is better for dev support and it has LTE
I'm going with the Exynos myself
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Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
OP: if you like custom ROMs and such (why else are you on xda right now?), go for the Snapdragon, no questions. Many more people will have the snapdragon as the whole US and most of Europe is getting it.

Closed Source Project said:
Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
OP: if you like custom ROMs and such (why else are you on xda right now?), go for the Snapdragon, no questions. Many more people will have the snapdragon as the whole US and most of Europe is getting it.
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But that's kinda weird though.. At first it seemed that in europe the octy will be released, and in the US the quadcore will be released..
Now its kinda like that in the us and in europe, most of the countrys will get the quadcore version.. -.-
that's just crazy..

dafabsl said:
But that's kinda weird though.. At first it seemed that in europe the octy will be released, and in the US the quadcore will be released..
Now its kinda like that in the us and in europe, most of the countrys will get the quadcore version.. -.-
that's just crazy..
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this is how it looks to me ...
look at the previous galaxy and note series.. the non-lte version is available in almost all countries.. hence has the most dev support..
but in s4's case., since they cant mass produce exynos octa YET., they decided to use snapdragon even in countries outside the u.s... that's the only way to make s4 available to all countries..
they wanted to be the first to use octa chip?.. they sure am now.. but why rush releasing it when they cant give all people this octa feature they boast about?.. that's because they dont want xperia z and htc one to have all the spotlight..
and the result is what OP is asking now..
since the u.s. and most european countries will have I9505., the logical answer is the snapdragon will have more dev support.. and even have the higher chance to have cm..

Therefore, which is better? I9500octa or i9505 snapdragon?

lazylilsnoop said:
Therefore, which is better? I9500octa or i9505 snapdragon?
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If you are looking for developer support and CM than your better choice is I9505 snapdragon imo

AW: Developer support for I9500 and I9505?
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If you are looking for developer support and CM than your better choice is I9505 snapdragon imo
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Why wouldn't there be a CM for the sgs4?

Closed Source Project said:
Wrong. Snapdragon allows each core to clock independently plus it only has 4 cores so it is much better on battery.
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From your comment one would assume u know what your talking about it seems u have been misled
Octa is better on battery life I'm really not going to explain this again it is also more powerful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191850
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Great thread and very good question OP. Right now, it looks like the snapdragon version will be the most dev friendly since it'll be the one sold in big markets ( US, UK, Germany....). I wish that the exynos 5 octa had LTE included. The note 2 had the same processor everywhere in the world and that was great.

[Q] Snapdragon 800: 8974 or 8974AB?

Which CPU does the Note 3 use? Please enlighten me
MSM8974 or MSM8974AB?
MSM8974: Adreno 330 @ 450Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 800Mhz
MSM8974AB: Adreno 330 @ 550Mhz and dual channel LPDDR3 @ 933Mhz

Most likely the 8974, only the meizu mx3 will have the AB version check anandtech.com that'll have all the info on the Soc. It does however have a low power radio which should save battery.
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That's an interesting question. If there's a "better" S-800 it would be odd that with Samsung's purchasing power with Qualcomm that they wouldn't use it in their flagship and allow a Chinese upstart to tout a more powerful phone. The S-600 Samsung used in the SGS4 was "AB" so let's hope the S-800 in the N3 is also. We'll find out when Anandtech does their testing. This is from their review of the SGS4...
That brings us to the Galaxy S 4. It's immediately apparent that something is different here because Samsung is shipping the Snapdragon 600 at a higher frequency than any other OEM. The Krait 300 cores in SGS4 can run at up to 1.9GHz vs. 1.7GHz for everyone else. Curiously enough, 1.9GHz is the max frequency that Qualcomm mentioned when it first announced Snapdragon 600.
Samsung is obviously a very large customer, so at first glance we assumed it could simply demand a better bin of Snapdragon 600 than its lower volume competitors. Looking a bit deeper however, we see that the Galaxy S 4 uses something different entirely.
Digging through the Galaxy S 4 kernel source we see references to an APQ8064AB part. As a recap, APQ8064 was the first quad-core Krait 200 SoC with no integrated modem, more commonly referred to as Snapdragon S4 Pro. APQ8064T was supposed to be its higher clocked/Krait 300 based successor that ended up with the marketing name Snapdragon 600. APQ8064AB however is, at this point, unique to the Galaxy S 4 but still carries the Snapdragon 600 marketing name.
If we had to guess, we might be looking at an actual respin of the APQ8064 silicon in APQ8064AB. Assuming Qualcomm isn't playing any funny games here, APQ8064AB may simply be a respin capable of hitting higher frequencies. We'll have to keep a close eye on this going forward, but it's clear to me that the Galaxy S 4 is shipping with something different than everyone else who has a Snapdragon 600 at this point.​

The one I played with had the AB S800.

Fingers crossed!
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The one I played with had the AB S800.
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The wiki snapdragon chipset shows the AB s800 only in xiaomi mi-3
The official note 3 global site only says 2.3 ghz quad-core processor....not mentioning what quad-core...
so it's 50-50......since they both have identical frequencies...here is for hoping for the best) AB version!
Hopefuly you are right!
:fingers-crossed:

vladleo said:
The wiki snapdragon chipset shows the AB s800 only in xiaomi mi-3
The official note 3 global site only says 2.3 ghz quad-core processor....not mentioning what quad-core...
so it's 50-50......since they both have identical frequencies...here is for hoping for the best) AB version!
Hopefuly you are right!
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He later said this:
Actually I looked into this some more - the network guy I was in contact with said it was the AB binning as it was clocked at 2.3Ghz. I took that as read and hence posted that information here, however I see even at the 2.3Ghz clockspeed it looks like there are two binnings for the GPU speed. Bottom line I can't categorically state this is AB bin, my apologies for that - OP updated.
Here is what the Voodoo Report says, as you can see it depends on whether the 0007 revision corresponds to the AB bin:
Hardware : Qualcomm MSM 8974 (Flattened Device Tree)
Revision : 0007
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The table in the referenced Anandtech article shows the CPU of the MSM8974AB as being 100MHz faster. It shows the MSM8974 at 2.2GHz, and the MSM8974AB at 2.3. Given this, I would assume that the note would have the MSM8974AB processor.
edit: Just checked the specs on the G2 and Z1. Those phones list their CPU speeds at 2260 MHz and 2200MHz respectively and both of them have the S800. Samsung lists the Note 3's CPU at 2.3GHz.

Can anyone who has received their s800 note3 please confirm whether or not the note 3 carries the 8974AB soc? I'm really interested to see if they added AB soc like they did with the S4...

servantz said:
Can anyone who has received their s800 note3 please confirm whether or not the note 3 carries the 8974AB soc? I'm really interested to see if they added AB soc like they did with the S4...
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Are you sure that S4 has AB? Because if it did then it will be a paranoia not to do the same thing on Note 3 especially that Note 3 is more suited for this tweaked processor due to its thermal advantages over S4. Lets see....

SAVVAS. said:
Are you sure that S4 has AB? Because if it did then it will be a paranoia not to do the same thing on Note 3 especially that Note 3 is more suited for this tweaked processor due to its thermal advantages over S4. Lets see....
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Yeah, I am sure that the S4 uses the 8064AB soc. It's well documented on Wikipedia, XDA, etc. Samsung has already set the precedent of using the AB soc in the S4 so I would be surprised if they did not utilize the 8974AB in the Note 3. I'm fairly certain they did use the AB soc in the Note but I still am waiting for someone with a N9005 to confirm. I'm surprised more people aren't clamoring to know this.

servantz said:
Yeah, I am sure that the S4 uses the 8064AB soc. It's well documented on Wikipedia, XDA, etc. Samsung has already set the precedent of using the AB soc in the S4 so I would be surprised if they did not utilize the 8974AB in the Note 3. I'm fairly certain they did use the AB soc in the Note but I still am waiting for someone with a N9005 to confirm. I'm surprised more people aren't clamoring to know this.
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Then that's very good news.I was quite hesitated at first because as far as I am concerned Anandtech and many other tech sites and even Xiaomi in itself promoted/reported Xiaomi Mi3's S800 AB like it was the chosen one and the first on the market and none of them bother to report or had clue that S4 has already the AB variant! Hmm...

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Then that's very good news.I was quite hesitated at first because as far as I am concerned Anandtech and many other tech sites and even Xiaomi in itself promoted/reported Xiaomi Mi3's S800 AB like it was the chosen one and the first on the market and none of them bother to report or had clue that S4 has already the AB variant! Hmm...
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The Xiaomi Mi3 was the first phone (maybe the only?) to announce the use of the s800AB (8974AB) variant. The S4 and HTC Butterfly S use the S600AB variant (8064AB). I really hope the Note 3 has the AB variant of the S800, although you would think Samsung might advertise the soc a little more as it does include an overclocked GPU and uses higher frequency ram. Anyways...someone please confirm!

servantz said:
The Xiaomi Mi3 was the first phone (maybe the only?) to announce the use of the s800AB (8974AB) variant. The S4 and HTC Butterfly S use the S600AB variant (8064AB). I really hope the Note 3 has the AB variant of the S800, although you would think Samsung might advertise the soc a little more as it does include an overclocked GPU and uses higher frequency ram. Anyways...someone please confirm!
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I agree, but Samsung may not want to advertise the S800 SoC too much, because if they say "the S800AB has incredible GPU!" then the Exynos markets would be Plus, Exynos is samsung's SoC brand, and I'm sure they'd rather promote their product over qualcomm's.

The unit in this review doesn't use AB.
See mark 9:30

eustilou said:
The unit in this review doesn't use AB.
See mark 9:30
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:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??

servantz said:
:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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Maybe Qualcomm can't make that many?
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servantz said:
:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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This is why.
http://gsminsider.com/2013/09/xiaomi-mi3-snapdragon-800-delays/
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eustilou said:
This is why.
http://gsminsider.com/2013/09/xiaomi-mi3-snapdragon-800-delays/
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Now it's starting to make sense. Thanks for posting this. i found an article somewhere on google that talked about how all Chinese Note 3's would come with the AB variant, but that clearly cannot be the case...still sucks. I am on tmobile so im stuck with the s800 variant. i kind of wish I could get the octo core variant, but i know i wont get LTE and i'm not sure if i would get HSPA+. I've got a preorder in for the note 3 but I'm considering waiting for the new nexus phone. Choices choices....

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:crying: Thanks for confirming. Shame they didn't use the AB soc. Why let Mi-3 have it but not Note 3??
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because Note 3 is much expensive in china, not many people will buy it
and xiaomi has much lower price point at 1999 RMB
also xiaomi has Tegra 4 version this year
so Qualcomm feels NVIDIA will take over the partnership with xiaomi
if they do not offer something real good soc
also Qualcomm is one of the investor of xiaomi

techinsights.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3
I don't know if the site is reliable or not. But it seems that their tear down reveal that sm n9005 is using the AB chip.
Sorry that I can't post links as I am new. but please do take a look!

[Q] Exynos HMP Update

Hello everyone,
I was looking for a new tablet with a digitizer.
Obviously, I found the note 10.1 2014 pretty interesting and after watching some reviews and playing around with the Note 10.1 from 2012 it is safe to say that I am willing to buy it.
I read in the interwebs that the WiFi version differs slightly from the LTE version (european here) and that instead of a snapdragon 800, the WiFi version is powered by an exynos 5 octa core.
I was like jesus that's nice, an octa core processor for less money than the quad core. Stupid mainstream thoughts huh?
Well yeah so apparently the Exynos did have some performance issues which are mostly solved now.
I also read that Samsung is going to publish an update for so called HMP support, all 8 cores running at the same time.
Samsung said that they are NOT going to roll out this update to the Note 3 (not sure about that one, there's a lot of stuff to read about samsung products).
Did they say something about the Note 2014?
Will they publish this HMP thing? Or is it that tests weren't successful and nobody gets it with this generations Exynos?
Or is it already integrated in the newest Update?
TL;dr:
Will Samsung bring HMP support to the Note 2014?
Is it already rolled out?
Would you pay an additional 100€ for the S800? (despite LTE)
Thanks in advance,
cheers

So here goes I don't think we will get hmp for the note 10.1 2014 but I won't rule it out but its looking more unlikely every day. I would say there's very little performance differences between the wifi and LTE models, I don't think anyone would notice if you didn't tell them. If you wouldn't use the LTE then save your money. The wifi model will receive more dev love in terms of help and custom roms due to higher volume of people owning the wifi model. My advice take the wifi model and if hmp comes our way then it will be great but its not needed. Check my video and you can see just how fast this tablet is without hmp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpImBE_DIK8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645875

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Closed in favor of the earlier discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645875

Which version will the XDA Devs support ?

The Snapdragon vs. the Exynos ?
What is the support path ?
We've seen it on previous phone (I9500 vs. I9505 for example)
Would love get some insight as it would also provide help in buying decisions.

Snapdragon [emoji106]tmobile [emoji7] bliss.
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Too early to call, but it has been a "tradition" that the Snapdragon model will be the more widely distributed model. The Exynos model DOES come with LTE now, so that tradition might change, but it only supports CAT4 instead of CAT6 like on the Snapdragon model. I am THINKING that again the Snapdragon model will be the more popular one so that will be the one that devs will support.

I guess more of exynos as we've seen in note 123
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Until we see big OEM's other than samsung using exynos, developer support will be more focused on snapdragon because they are widely used in other phones. There will likely be many top tier android devices from multiple OEM's using the Snapdragon 805 SOC. Samsung is still the only OEM of any size buying the exynos SOC.
My bet is firmly in the snapdragon side for the Note 4. This iteration will prove no different from the last generation and the generation before it. Exynos developer support has been poor at best. There were even a couple of posts where developer device maintainers have stopped developing for it in protest. AOSP for the Exynos note 3 was a slooooooow grind. CM and AOSP was available much much quicker for the snapdragon.

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Until we see big OEM's other than samsung using exynos, developer support will be more focused on snapdragon because they are widely used in other phones. There will likely be many top tier android devices from multiple OEM's using the Snapdragon 805 SOC. Samsung is still the only OEM of any size buying the exynos SOC.
My bet is firmly in the snapdragon side for the Note 4. This iteration will prove no different from the last generation and the generation before it. Exynos developer support has been poor at best. There were even a couple of posts where developer device maintainers have stopped developing for it in protest. AOSP for the Exynos note 3 was a slooooooow grind. CM and AOSP was available much much quicker for the snapdragon.
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That is because Qualcomm has better documentation and Samsung refuses to provide the needed resources for developers. So it will moat likely be the Qualcomm gets the most which will still be limited as most developers are staying away from Samsung all together

Andrilux is buying Note 4 with the Exynos inside.