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I9100 vs I9100G !!!!

I bought my Galaxy SII, a few days back. At that time i had option to choose between I9100 and I9100G, as the vendor had both. So, i preferred I9100 over I9100G.
Many of you, may have got I9100G, recently, as it is the new stock available. Samsung is trying to replace the original SII, i.e. I9100 with I9100G, in the markets of INDIA, MALAYSIA & SINGAPORE.
This is to fulfill the demands of GALAXY SII, which has increased vastly. So, to fulfill the demand, before it dies out, SAMSUNG has quietly slipped I9100G version, which has PowerVR TI OMAP 4430 processor, and not the Exynos 4210.
So, what i have researched and found out is that, it is better, if you can get an I9100, before it extincts, instead of getting stuck with "G".
By no means, i am saying that, I9100G, is bad, what i am trying to say here is that, its not as good as I9100's Exynos.
Some major differences which i found out are:-
1. Galaxy SII I9100 will be the first in the GALAXY family, to get an ICS update.
2. Exynos processors still have huge RAW power.
3. The isuue is GPU used in I9100G has PowerVR540 TI OMAP 4430, at 300 MHz,which is single core and weak, compared to MALI400MP+, which is quadcore inside Exynos.
******I am talking about GPU, and not single or dual core CPU******
4. Regarding future updates, I9100G users may be isolated, as I9100G is not replacing original I9100 in EU, and so many other countries.
5. Also, the development support for I9100, is much much much greater than I9100G. As majority of the community still uses I9100.
6. The overheating problem is very less in I9100G, as compared to I9100.
7. Battery, too performs well in I9100G.
8. But, both overheating, and battery improvement, doesn't comes without cost. I9100G doesn't gets overheated, because its cpu is clocked max at 1.008 Ghz, unlike 1.2Ghz in I9100. Same, helps with improved battery.
Well, these were the major issues which i pointed out.
Also, here i am just trying to convey knowledge, which i gained to others.I have not posted this to decide whats superior, its just a comaprison.
Any Opinions, or views is warmly welcomed.

Nice post. I suggest you head to Indian Galaxy SII owner thread for more details.
The Indian I9100G got an official 2.3.6 update via Samsung KIES and I9100 DIDNT get any update. Its still stuck on 2.3.3 in India, where as most of the world got 2.3.6 1-2 weeks back. So in short, Samsung has stopped supporting FW update for I9100 via KIES and OTA.
Check the thread for more details. Members are posting Samsung India on Facebook, Twitter, their customer support chat etc etc. Only way to upgrade Indian I9100 is to flash European Firmware.

spoiltz said:
I bought my Galaxy SII, a few days back. At that time i had option to choose between I9100 and I9100G, as the vendor had both. So, i preferred I9100 over I9100G.
Many of you, may have got I9100G, recently, as it is the new stock available. Samsung is trying to replace the original SII, i.e. I9100 with I9100G, in the markets of INDIA, MALAYSIA & SINGAPORE.
This is to fulfill the demands of GALAXY SII, which has increased vastly. So, to fulfill the demand, before it dies out, SAMSUNG has quietly slipped I9100G version, which has PowerVR TI OMAP 4430 processor, and not the Exynos 4210.
So, what i have researched and found out is that, it is better, if you can get an I9100, before it extincts, instead of getting stuck with "G".
By no means, i am saying that, I9100G, is bad, what i am trying to say here is that, its not as good as I9100's Exynos.
Some major differences which i found out are:-
1. Galaxy SII I9100 will be the first in the GALAXY family, to get an ICS update.
2. Exynos processors still have huge RAW power.
3. The isuue is GPU used in I9100G has PowerVR540 TI OMAP 4430, at 300 MHz,which is single core and weak, compared to MALI400MP+, which is quadcore inside Exynos.
******I am talking about GPU, and not single or dual core CPU******
4. Regarding future updates, I9100G users may be isolated, as I9100G is not replacing original I9100 in EU, and so many other countries.
5. Also, the development support for I9100, is much much much greater than I9100G. As majority of the community still uses I9100.
6. The overheating problem is very less in I9100G, as compared to I9100.
7. Battery, too performs well in I9100G.
8. But, both overheating, and battery improvement, doesn't comes without cost. I9100G doesn't gets overheated, because its cpu is clocked max at 1.008 Ghz, unlike 1.2Ghz in I9100. Same, helps with improved battery.
Well, these were the major issues which i pointed out.
Also, here i am just trying to convey knowledge, which i gained to others.I have not posted this to decide whats superior, its just a comaprison.
Any Opinions, or views is warmly welcomed.
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I9100G is better for porting cyanogenmod etc.
TI is a very good Soc vendor
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^Yeah, that is a plus point of I9100G. The TI OMAP processor is very dev friendly, thanks to its source being released and its presence in many phones like Optimus 2X, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Moto Razr etc. This is one of the reasons why 2.3.6 update of I9100G was released earlier than I9100 in India. I bet ICS porting will also be easy as Galaxy Nexus is also using Ti OMAP (4460 instead of 4430) but same Power VR GPU.
Expect ports of all major ROMS soon. CM9 and MIUI ports are already confirmed.
Also, the I9100G sound quality is better than I9100, thanks to OMAP processor. We all know about the audio quality of S2 from the Anandtech article, which criticizes the Ymaha DAC used on I9100.

The Mali GPU isn't quad core, doesn't mean it says 4 cores its quad, e.g my amd gpu has 600 cores, so whats that?
The Mali GPU is a single core in the SGS2, it is better than the SGX543 which Apple A5 chip uses but has 2 SGX543 which is why it outperforms all GPU even Tegra 3 which atm is the best single GPU.

ambar_hitman said:
Nice post. I suggest you head to Indian Galaxy SII owner thread for more details.
The Indian I9100G got an official 2.3.6 update via Samsung KIES and I9100 DIDNT get any update. Its still stuck on 2.3.3 in India, where as most of the world got 2.3.6 1-2 weeks back. So in short, Samsung has stopped supporting FW update for I9100 via KIES and OTA.
Check the thread for more details. Members are posting Samsung India on Facebook, Twitter, their customer support chat etc etc. Only way to upgrade Indian I9100 is to flash European Firmware.
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The official support for indian i9100, is not closed.
Still, the phone will get ICS, confirmed it via Samsung India.

ambar_hitman said:
^Yeah, that is a plus point of I9100G. The TI OMAP processor is very dev friendly, thanks to its source being released and its presence in many phones like Optimus 2X, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus S, Moto Razr etc. This is one of the reasons why 2.3.6 update of I9100G was released earlier than I9100 in India. I bet ICS porting will also be easy as Galaxy Nexus is also using Ti OMAP (4460 instead of 4430) but same Power VR GPU.
Expect ports of all major ROMS soon. CM9 and MIUI ports are already confirmed.
Also, the I9100G sound quality is better than I9100, thanks to OMAP processor. We all know about the audio quality of S2 from the Anandtech article, which criticizes the Ymaha DAC used on I9100.
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Both the phones got pro's as well as con's.
I9100 still got better development support, as it is available in majority of countries. Whereas, I9100G will only be pushed to India, Vietnam, Malaysia & Singapore Markets.
Updates which are being developed, will be first pushed to I9100, as its community is vast.
It doesn't matters, if an update is being pushed to India or not.Actually, this is the point of us being here, that if we don't get something, and are not satisfied, we can look at development at xda. A EU firmware, or any other firmware, doesn't really matters.
Same thing applies, with I9100G, it really doesn't matters, what you have got with it, there is always development, as long as devs support it.
For now, I9100 got better support, as it was here from a long time. Now, that I9100G is here, it too will get supported.
Rest TI OMAP4430 PoverVR540, too is on par with Exynos 4210.

I9100G replacing I9100 is not true, Until the stock arrives for I9100 , the"G" series will be replacing it.

bala_gamer said:
I9100G replacing I9100 is not true, Until the stock arrives for I9100 , the"G" series will be replacing it.
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The thing is, to meet the demands of I9100, Samsung pushed I9100G, quietly, so that the demand doesn't dies out.
Also, as i was informed by the Samsung People, was that I9100G, will be available from now on.

malaysia
in my state, no more non-G version

spoiltz said:
The official support for indian i9100, is not closed.
Still, the phone will get ICS, confirmed it via Samsung India.
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Can you confirm why 2.3.6 or 2.3.5 or even 2.3.4 not released for I9100 in India?
Also, all online retailers selling I9100 have increased their prices in one day, hinting that I9100 stocks are limited.
I9100G replacing I9100 is not true, Until the stock arrives for I9100 , the"G" series will be replacing it.
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Unfortunately, most Asia-Pacific markets wont be having I9100 anymore. Its already stopped in Malaysia, even proper I9100G boxes are there. They announced it on their Facebook as well. Soon, it will be the same in India.

OMAP is better than Samsung chipset.
Okay, the processor is almost equal to Exynos.
Only Mali 400 is beating SGX540 (I've it good?).
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netchip said:
OMAP is better than Samsung chipset.
Okay, the processor is almost equal to Exynos.
Only Mali 400 is beating SGX540 (I've it good?).
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Wrong. The Exynos chipset is the fastest processor on a phone to date.
The OMAP4430 in the G is not anywhere near as good as the Exynos.
The Mali-400 is faster then the SGX540 by a mile.
The 9100G has inferior performance then the 9100.

khartaras said:
Wrong. The Exynos chipset is the fastest processor on a phone to date.
The OMAP4430 in the G is not anywhere near as good as the Exynos.
The Mali-400 is faster then the SGX540 by a mile.
The 9100G has inferior performance then the 9100.
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OMAP 4430 == OMAP 4460 the last one get 7000 antutu WITHOUT OCing, LOL
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netchip said:
OMAP 4430 == OMAP 4460 the last one get 7000 antutu WITHOUT OCing, LOL
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Guys, guys.... the thread really doesn't make sense if we get back at each other like this.
Being in a community, every one has right to express their views.Be it Wrong or Right.

netchip said:
OMAP is better than Samsung chipset.
Okay, the processor is almost equal to Exynos.
Only Mali 400 is beating SGX540 (I've it good?).
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U are right buddy, Mali 400 beats SGX540.
Also, Exynos was the chipset designed for best phones of samsung. TI OMAP, is comparitively not so new, and nxt gen.

I've seen Mali lose in some open gl benchmarks to sgx 540 in the optimus 3D an when it does beat Mali its not by a lot an I think To has best gpus that's y Samsung used it in the Og Galaxy
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And here i was worrying so much that ive gotten myself a i9100g. After hearing that the CPU was only clocked at 1ghz, and was built with a completely different chipset, i felt cheated. I was also worried about the amount of DEV support that my phone would be receiving...But after reading this thread a little i guess it gave me some confidence in my phone
Is there a reason why the i9100g version was only clocked at 1gz? because ive clocked it to 1.2ghz most of the time...im afraid that might cause problem

Im from Malaysia here.. its a quite a debate seeing galaxy nexus potential users saying the exynos aint that superb compared to the G variant.. but im not seeing any ICS yet to it despite it having omap just like galaxy nexus itself..
And they compared about the DAC.. is yamaha dac is that bad and is the one in the G variant is damn good till voodoo sound applicable? Thats a debate indeed
I own a 9100 non G and happy with the support it has from the devs for now.. best to say that for now if ur flashing custom roms and kernel, go for the original sgs2 instead of the G variant.. thats all.. the rest is too argumentative
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hakgao said:
And here i was worrying so much that ive gotten myself a i9100g. After hearing that the CPU was only clocked at 1ghz, and was built with a completely different chipset, i felt cheated. I was also worried about the amount of DEV support that my phone would be receiving...But after reading this thread a little i guess it gave me some confidence in my phone
Is there a reason why the i9100g version was only clocked at 1gz? because ive clocked it to 1.2ghz most of the time...im afraid that might cause problem
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I9100G , is clocked at 1ghz, is a good thing for "G".
It doesn't overheats, easily, as I9100 variant.
Also, the battery life is better.

POLL: I9500 OR I9505, What will you buy?

I would like to know whether you guys will prefer either snapdragon 600 or exynos powered samsung galaxy s4, what it'll do is making it easy for us to understand which one will have more development support, so i'll and many others will buy that one. Thanks
EDIT: Here is Exynos's Benchmark results and comparison with Snapdragon 600 powered S4 and other devices:
Octa-core Galaxy S4 benchmarks surface, live up to expectations

hspa+ in my area is solid plus att lte starting to slow up in my area, i am guessing due to more lte phones. the exynos 5 octa is better in every way it looks like and i prefer touch wiz to cm, it is more productive (imo). i hope to get it in new york when i am up there april 26th in one of the import electronic shops.

You wont find it in store here in the u.s. I prefer exynos chip too but im not getting it due to cost and no lte. Going to renew my contract and get s600 around release. Hoping to find some good deal offerings

I checked the SamMobile website and it said Australia is getting the SD600 but if I only want 3g/2g do I still have to use the SD600 variant. If I can choose I WILL go for the E5O version

porkaysi said:
hspa+ in my area is solid plus att lte starting to slow up in my area, i am guessing due to more lte phones. the exynos 5 octa is better in every way it looks like cm, touch wiz is more productive (imo). i hope to get it in new york when i am up there april 26th in one of the import electronic shops.
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I am glad to find that people prefers Exynos more then Snapdragon 600, obviously because it's battery efficient faster, but i guess many of them have to import it, even i guess you also have to import Exynos one from Asia or other region, because i saw Samsung has shortage of Exynos, so 70% will get Snapdragon 600, but in my country there will be only i9500,

bedi.gursimran said:
I checked the SamMobile website and it said Australia is getting the SD600 but if I only want 3g/2g do I still have to use the SD600 variant. If I can choose I WILL go for the E5O version
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Yeah this is bit of setback, i wish Samsung must provide LTE Capable phone for everyone, it's not there headache whether a particular country supports it or not, can't really understand these manufacturers logic these days..my main concern is only if we get very fewer number of i9500, then of course development for them will be very minimal, and in my country we'll only get i9500

As per my country I will receive S4 9400.
BTW it is related to Q/A forum.

kataria.vikesh said:
As per my country I will receive S4 9400.
BTW it is related to Q/A forum.
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Well i don't think it's related to Q/A Answer section, i feel it should be in General, just like every other similar POLLS on xda.

if india had a choice between 9500/9505 , i would blindly choose exynos. Its not only about the raw power, but about the big little architecture. Cant wait to test it and play around it. defenitely something different than a traditional cpu .
with a7 cores used for movie play back and call and at sleep, i strongly assume the battery would last much longer than any other s4 variants.

bala_gamer said:
if india had a choice between 9500/9505 , i would blindly choose exynos. Its not only about the raw power, but about the big little architecture. Cant wait to test it and play around it. defenitely something different than a traditional cpu .
with a7 cores used for movie play back and call and at sleep, i strongly assume the battery would last much longer than any other s4 variants.
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This is the reason why i guess people are looking more towards Exynos, i.e. longer battery life, your ideas are really helping me here, my first Exynos device this S4 will be i am searching for some leak to know which 70% countries are getting SD600/i9505, i wish Asia will not

R: POLL: I9500 OR I9505, What will you buy?
In Italy I will choose I9500 version (I don't care about LTE because here it's very expensive and not widespread)
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E5O by miles.
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I'll be purchasing 19500
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I9500 because well, I don't have any other choice. There's no 4G network either in my country.

IF I buy one: I9505.
Exynos makes me mad, I'm developing AOSP ROMs.

Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.

I9500 as I already have htc one with SD600 not that there is anything wrong with SD600 also I dont use 4G so don't need a 4G capable phone.

-A-P-M- said:
Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.
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no surprise here, what if they dont care about aosp? frankly the gap between aosp and stock roms are getting bigger day by day. apart from the sleekness aosp provides it is struggling hard to match the potential of stock roms(not only samsung roms,add htc and sony roms to this list).
xploidwild started a movement some time back to add more functionality to "CM". sadly i dont know the current state of that movement.
Also, the cm support for 9500 would come eventually , but its going to be harder this time with teamhacksung saying no. There are few sources of exynos 5 dual out there somewhere which might help the new cm developers.
I dont want a fully working aosp for 9500, but would be happy to see nightlies just like s2 or s3.

bala_gamer said:
no surprise here, what if they dont care about aosp? frankly the gap between aosp and stock roms are getting bigger day by day. apart from the sleekness aosp provides it is struggling hard to match the potential of stock roms(not only samsung roms,add htc and sony roms to this list).
xploidwild started a movement some time back to add more functionality to "CM". sadly i dont know the current state of that movement.
Also, the cm support for 9500 would come eventually , but its going to be harder this time with teamhacksung saying no. There are few sources of exynos 5 dual out there somewhere which might help the new cm developers.
I dont want a fully working aosp for 9500, but would be happy to see nightlies just like s2 or s3.
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Don't forget, devices which doesn't get official CM Support still gets unofficial cm ports, like Desire Z etc, we may get unofficial ports, or even cm support lately for Exynos based devices, for example note 3 etc...

-A-P-M- said:
Im suprised that people prefer Exynos. I started considering SGS4 when I saw that SGS4 with Snapdragon CPU will be available in my country
Team Hacksung wont support SGS4 anymore, so it won't get CM (at least not in short future). On other side, Steve Kondik wrote: "Since it's powered by Snapdragon, CM should work wonderfully on it." So we can assume that Exynos SGS4 won't get CM and Snapdragon will get it and will work very good, because Snapdragon is much more opened than Exynos. So when Android 5.0 is released in about 2 months, Exynos SGS4 will have to wait months for official update, while Snapdragon SGS4 will get Android 5.0 (CM) much sooner.
So for me, i9505 is the only choice.
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It's actually only one member of the team who said that the others came out and said 1 member doesn't speak for the team and that as for every other phone they will never announce supporting or not supporting until a device is actually launched
S4 INFO

Is it true Exynos phones will have smaller community vs snapdragon??

Someone had mention this to me so I figure I ask. Selling my S3 in order to get either an S4 or HTC One. I love the ONE but ifix just said its impossible to repair. Feel like I am force to get an S4 because of its generous and gorgeous features over a very nice looking phone like the HTC ONE.
Do you guys believe is worth getting Exynos over the Snapdragon and sacrificing LTE?
I'm on TMOBIL so ideally I would love to have the latest and greatest but at the same time I would like the LTE feature. What are your thoughts on it?
I wish the video recorder had a wide angle like the HTC One and even the S3.

F9zSlavik said:
Someone had mention this to me so I figure I ask. Selling my S3 in order to get either an S4 or HTC One. I love the ONE but ifix just said its impossible to repair. Feel like I am force to get an S4 because of its generous and gorgeous features over a very nice looking phone like the HTC ONE.
Do you guys believe is worth getting Exynos over the Snapdragon and sacrificing LTE?
I'm on TMOBIL so ideally I would love to have the latest and greatest but at the same time I would like the LTE feature. What are your thoughts on it?
I wish the video recorder had a wide angle like the HTC One and even the S3.
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There will be Exynos OctaCore with LTE
like S III QuadCore with LTE
however Samsung confirm it for some regions like S.Korea
So u can buy it and enjoy
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Samsung said 70% of the first 10 million galaxy S4 will be S600 proc because of some problems in Exynos production ...

Roms were interchangeable between all the American snapdragon S4 with a few tweaks by devs.
Most likely it will be the same case with all the sd600 Roms. So development will be easier.
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Wel if we looked at the the locations of SD600 launches we can see that SD600 is going to places where a larger portion of the developers are. In fact almost the whole of europe is getting the SD600. Not to mention the possibility of US also using SD600. So we are looking at a significant difference in user proportions and developer support tend to also follow the trend linearly.
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In a short answer is yes it will be more popular as 70% is getting quadcore.

mix1987 said:
Wel if we looked at the the locations of SD600 launches we can see that SD600 is going to places where a larger portion of the developers are. In fact almost the whole of europe is getting the SD600. Not to mention the possibility of US also using SD600. So we are looking at a significant difference in user proportions and developer support tend to also follow the trend linearly.
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70% of the population is getting the Snapdragon, and many of the developers who worked with Exynos in the past got sick of it and are absolutely not getting another Exynos device, and most of us are ditching Samsung overall.
I only know of one developer (AndreiLux) who is confirmed to be getting an Exynos variant so far.

Didn't CM say that they would not support Exynos processors? That should say something in itself.
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Fu5ion said:
Didn't CM say that they would not support Exynos processors? That should say something in itself.
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No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.

Entropy512 said:
No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.
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Thanks for clarifying. What do you expect from the vzw version?
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Fu5ion said:
Thanks for clarifying. What do you expect from the vzw version?
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Who knows. The CDMA guys are always in their own land. I'm not sure if sbrissen did any work with the Qcom-based GS3s.
I think some of the guys who do work on d2vzw and d2spr are semi-interested, however, at least some of them are questioning whether they can justify a device purchase already, and most of them are (like myself) not fans of user donations.
There's also the fact that with each iteration, Samsung is getting much better at locking down Verizon devices. Don't count on this next iteration getting cracked rapidly.

Entropy512 said:
No... You need to read more carefully. CM never makes general decisions as a whole to support/not support a given device (except when a device simply needs to be dropped - the last time that happened was with ICS and Snapdragon S1 series chips because their GPUs are too weak to pass the Android CTS for ICS and later. Tegra2 devices had a close call due to lacking NEON support but they're still in for now.)
That said, none of the Exynos4 maintainer team are picking up any GS4s (we're so pissed at Samsung we're not even getting the Qcom variants, but this doesn't really matter as far as CM on those devices - see below).
Some of the Qualcomm GS3 maintainer team will be picking up Qualcomm GS4s.
So Qualcomm-based GS4s have had maintainers with direct experience with its predecessor express interest in picking up the device. CM support on the AT&T and T-Mobile variants is highly likely, CM support on international Qualcomm GS4s doesn't have a maintainer that has expressed interest yet, but differences from the AT&T/T-Mo variants should be minimal (if anything - see t0lte, one device repo is supporting international Note 2 LTE, AT&T LTE, and T-Mobile LTE versions.)
Exynos-based GS4s have had no one with prior maintainer experience express interest in the device so far. Will someone attempt it? Almost surely. Will they succeed and get it to a point where it will get M and stable builds? In my PERSONAL opinion, highly unlikely unless Samsung changes their attitude with regards to documentation.
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So your suggesting that we or I stick with a SD600? I hear a lot about how displeased people are about previous Exynos. I don't know much about the history but you make it osund like it was a real pain in the ass.
And why would people want to leave samsung phones? You say for not having a Qalc variant. You mean an 8 core Qualc?

True.

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So your suggesting that we or I stick with a SD600? I hear a lot about how displeased people are about previous Exynos. I don't know much about the history but you make it osund like it was a real pain in the ass.
And why would people want to leave samsung phones? You say for not having a Qalc variant. You mean an 8 core Qualc?
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It is a real pain to deal with when you don't have proper documentation to work with. Add in the fact that Samsung flat out lied to devs and you have why they are willing to leave the OEM. To be honest I think in the end most devs will end up on the nexus so they don't have to deal with closed source BS from the OEMs. How many cores the device has is not really a problem as it doesn't effect alot. I have had both of the S3 and they run the same. Mix in the fact that the extra 4 cores won't do anything for performance and android is not really able to take advantage of them. Muti level threading on android is still not up to par for anything other then a dual core device.
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70% of the population is getting the Snapdragon, and many of the developers who worked with Exynos in the past got sick of it and are absolutely not getting another Exynos device, and most of us are ditching Samsung overall.
I only know of one developer (AndreiLux) who is confirmed to be getting an Exynos variant so far.
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Thats an interesting point, to where are the majority of the Developers moving to do you know? I've actually just got the HTC One but i'm really tempted to get the S4, as i've come across a few speed bumps that for me are a bit annoying.
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To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
Even if they bring out the Octa to the masses, chances are development will be so far ahead with the snapdragon then it'll be pointless getting it.

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Thats an interesting point, to where are the majority of the Developers moving to do you know? I've actually just got the HTC One but i'm really tempted to get the S4, as i've come across a few speed bumps that for me are a bit annoying.
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To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
Even if they bring out the Octa to the masses, chances are development will be so far ahead with the snapdragon then it'll be pointless getting it.
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They already moved to Xperia Z
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Do you lose Samsung specific features like finger hovering if you use AOSP roms like CM?

GTRagnarok said:
Do you lose Samsung specific features like finger hovering if you use AOSP roms like CM?
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Yes you lose all Samsung features

dladz said:
To answer the question about the S4, i would say that until the octa is widely available (probably later on this year, like they did with the LTE version of the S3) it's safe to say that development for the snapdragon is going to be vastly superior in comparison.
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Wont matter as Samsung refuses to release proper documentation on any Exynos chip. So even if every samsung had the same chip development would be slow going.

[Q] Exynos HMP Update

Hello everyone,
I was looking for a new tablet with a digitizer.
Obviously, I found the note 10.1 2014 pretty interesting and after watching some reviews and playing around with the Note 10.1 from 2012 it is safe to say that I am willing to buy it.
I read in the interwebs that the WiFi version differs slightly from the LTE version (european here) and that instead of a snapdragon 800, the WiFi version is powered by an exynos 5 octa core.
I was like jesus that's nice, an octa core processor for less money than the quad core. Stupid mainstream thoughts huh?
Well yeah so apparently the Exynos did have some performance issues which are mostly solved now.
I also read that Samsung is going to publish an update for so called HMP support, all 8 cores running at the same time.
Samsung said that they are NOT going to roll out this update to the Note 3 (not sure about that one, there's a lot of stuff to read about samsung products).
Did they say something about the Note 2014?
Will they publish this HMP thing? Or is it that tests weren't successful and nobody gets it with this generations Exynos?
Or is it already integrated in the newest Update?
TL;dr:
Will Samsung bring HMP support to the Note 2014?
Is it already rolled out?
Would you pay an additional 100€ for the S800? (despite LTE)
Thanks in advance,
cheers

So here goes I don't think we will get hmp for the note 10.1 2014 but I won't rule it out but its looking more unlikely every day. I would say there's very little performance differences between the wifi and LTE models, I don't think anyone would notice if you didn't tell them. If you wouldn't use the LTE then save your money. The wifi model will receive more dev love in terms of help and custom roms due to higher volume of people owning the wifi model. My advice take the wifi model and if hmp comes our way then it will be great but its not needed. Check my video and you can see just how fast this tablet is without hmp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpImBE_DIK8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645875

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Closed in favor of the earlier discussion:
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Which version will the XDA Devs support ?

The Snapdragon vs. the Exynos ?
What is the support path ?
We've seen it on previous phone (I9500 vs. I9505 for example)
Would love get some insight as it would also provide help in buying decisions.

Snapdragon [emoji106]tmobile [emoji7] bliss.
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Too early to call, but it has been a "tradition" that the Snapdragon model will be the more widely distributed model. The Exynos model DOES come with LTE now, so that tradition might change, but it only supports CAT4 instead of CAT6 like on the Snapdragon model. I am THINKING that again the Snapdragon model will be the more popular one so that will be the one that devs will support.

I guess more of exynos as we've seen in note 123
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Until we see big OEM's other than samsung using exynos, developer support will be more focused on snapdragon because they are widely used in other phones. There will likely be many top tier android devices from multiple OEM's using the Snapdragon 805 SOC. Samsung is still the only OEM of any size buying the exynos SOC.
My bet is firmly in the snapdragon side for the Note 4. This iteration will prove no different from the last generation and the generation before it. Exynos developer support has been poor at best. There were even a couple of posts where developer device maintainers have stopped developing for it in protest. AOSP for the Exynos note 3 was a slooooooow grind. CM and AOSP was available much much quicker for the snapdragon.

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Until we see big OEM's other than samsung using exynos, developer support will be more focused on snapdragon because they are widely used in other phones. There will likely be many top tier android devices from multiple OEM's using the Snapdragon 805 SOC. Samsung is still the only OEM of any size buying the exynos SOC.
My bet is firmly in the snapdragon side for the Note 4. This iteration will prove no different from the last generation and the generation before it. Exynos developer support has been poor at best. There were even a couple of posts where developer device maintainers have stopped developing for it in protest. AOSP for the Exynos note 3 was a slooooooow grind. CM and AOSP was available much much quicker for the snapdragon.
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That is because Qualcomm has better documentation and Samsung refuses to provide the needed resources for developers. So it will moat likely be the Qualcomm gets the most which will still be limited as most developers are staying away from Samsung all together

Andrilux is buying Note 4 with the Exynos inside.