http://www.pcworld.com/article/245561/sprint_delays_4g_lte_rollout.html
The good news, if one can take seriously any statements coming from Overland Park, KS., is that Sprint will support 4G through 2015. This, of course, like the terms of our contracts, is subject to change at any time for any reason. I guess the $1.5 billion "Investment" in Clear, anticipated legal fees and class-action payouts in light of the C.I.Q. melt-down, and not-to-be-realized data mining profits have taken their toll.
Have you forgotten some old proverbs:
Honesty is the best policy
Cheaters never prosper
The cover-up is worse than the crime
How about trying a new one,
Our customers can handle the truth.
End of rant.
The LTE uncertainty is why I am holding off on an upgrade till at least late 2012.
Jayavarman said:
The LTE uncertainty is why I am holding off on an upgrade till at least late 2012.
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It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
My warrant officer has an HTC jet stream on at&t running lte 26+ down speed test I'm planning on switching it honestly isn't that expensive for what I need
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The network upgrade is proceeding as planned they just wont have the devices until the second half of 2012.
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It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
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And to add to that they just purchased a large amount of spectrum to use for lte. I'm 90% going to switch to Verizon when my contract ends next October. Unless sprint pulls something really good out of their ass..
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I use a ton of data so ATT or Verizon isn't an option. I'm fine with my evo through most of 2012 until the LTE phones come out. I'm confused about some of the posts in here though. Sure, 20mps is awesome....but doesn't that mean you just hit the cap sooner?
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I use a ton of data so ATT or Verizon isn't an option. I'm fine with my evo through most of 2012 until the LTE phones come out. I'm confused about some of the posts in here though. Sure, 20mps is awesome....but doesn't that mean you just hit the cap sooner?
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No, its just how much data you can pull in chunks. Whether you download a 100mb file at 500kb/s or 25Mb/s , its the same amount of data, you'll just get it faster at 25Mb/s.
I wish I was getting 500kbps lol I live in the Indy area and can't get ****
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No, its just how much data you can pull in chunks. Whether you download a 100mb file at 500kb/s or 25Mb/s , its the same amount of data, you'll just get it faster at 25Mb/s.
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Since vz data is not unlimited you actually do hit the cap faster. I know if i had 4g or lte i would be jammin on that data!
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Since vz data is not unlimited you actually do hit the cap faster. I know if i had 4g or lte i would be jammin on that data!
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If that's how they're operating, they're literally robbing you.
Sprints data is unlimited. Verizon and att have a capped plan. You get x amount of data for x amount of money. If you go over you pay. I like sprint. I live in a rural are and roam off a verizon tower. I still dont hit the data roaming limit and only the voice roaming limit once. And i have 9 lines on two plans.
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Yes but our unlimited data means nothing if you can't get any data to begin with I love sprints plan but hate their service right now its unfortunate since I'm generally happy except for my data speeds
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I get sweet speeds on WiMax and good speeds on 3G. I'm sticking with Sprint since I routinely use more than 5GB of data each month. Every month a bit more. Soon I'll be over 6GB/mo.
Although, all bets are off if they don't get the Galaxy Nexus by Feb.
How much data does an average person used in a month? For all carriers?
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It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
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And their highest data plan can be used up in 30 minutes at that speed lol
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It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
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Wait until there is network congestion and lets see the speeds then. Currently in Indianapolis I have way better 3G speeds then version does and no caps and 4G though not official as it's still under Clear but it's 11Mb down all day..
When Sprint launched 4G in St. Louis and Chicago the speeds were a lot faster then they are now that there is more users on the network. Also faster the speed the faster you will hit their cap and the faster you will be complaining because you have to pay the overages.
$30 a month for 2GB vs. $10 a month for unlimited. The numbers don't lie but like the old saying goes a fool and his money are soon parted.
I've used different radios and all that I'm by no means a noob my friend don't get me wrong if I could I would stay but unfortunately I'm at my best 1mbps and I only get that late at night during the day when I'm up 200k at best its maddening
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Dont feel so bad guys, some people have it worst. My best download speeds most of the time is around 48kbps on a good day I'll be at 129kbps
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Switching to verizon in feb when contract is up.
Related
phandroid.com/2011/03/12/sprint-sticks-to-its-unlimited-data-guns-with-new-ad-video/
Does anyone see the irony with slow data speed and the boot if you roam too much (verizon prl lol) if he looked up unlimited and it stated no limit, why does roaming unlimited really have a limit, lol anyway thought it was an interesting read due to the irony with these crap 3g speeds lately
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Did you post that link with your ipad2? Cuz it failed
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No it was on the xda app, it didn't work?
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phandroid.com/2011/03/12/sprint-sticks-to-its-unlimited-data-guns-with-new-ad-video/
Does anyone see the irony with slow data speed and the boot if you roam too much (verizon prl lol) if he looked up unlimited and it stated no limit, why does roaming unlimited really have a limit, lol anyway thought it was an interesting read due to the irony with these crap 3g speeds lately
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On the video it is disclosed '[unlimited while] on the sprint network'.
OT/rant:The irony for me: my 3g speeds are usually 1.8 - 2.5 mbps... my 4g speeds rarely go over 1 mbps.. wtf...
How can you roam on the sprint network lol but yeah man we don't even have 4g here on long island new York yet so I can't compare
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to bad sprint network is in the ****ter they can't even get 4g out let alone fix the 3g data troubles
You see the big picture?
The CEO just made an ad stating Unlimited. This is great news as many were worried Sprint would fallow the throttle wagon.
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Some would say avg d/l speed of less than 200kbps with no end in sight is worse than throttling. At least with throttling you know what is going on. Ads by CEO's which ignore the fact that Sprints average 3G data speed is less than the competition's throttled speed, are not looking at the big picture. Here in SW Florida the 3G is unusable... I just leave wifi on all the time now at both work and at home. As far as the road goes - well it still is a phone, and works fine as that.
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Some would say avg d/l speed of less than 200kbps with no end in sight is worse than throttling. At least with throttling you know what is going on. Ads by CEO's which ignore the fact that Sprints average 3G data speed is less than the competition's throttled speed, are not looking at the big picture. Here in SW Florida the 3G is unusable... I just leave wifi on all the time now at both work and at home. As far as the road goes - well it still is a phone, and works fine as that.
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Some would say avg d/l speed of less than 200kbps with no end in sight is worse than throttling. At least with throttling you know what is going on. Ads by CEO's which ignore the fact that Sprints average 3G data speed is less than the competition's throttled speed, are not looking at the big picture. Here in SW Florida the 3G is unusable... I just leave wifi on all the time now at both work and at home. As far as the road goes - well it still is a phone, and works fine as that.
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Well mine is fine here in Chicago ,well recently that it.
In a year this won't matter as we will be going LTE, or 4g chips save. Battery life.
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Sorry, but Sprint doesn't suck for everyone. Glad the big picture of staying with the unlimited plans will continue.
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Sorry, but Sprint doesn't suck for everyone. Glad the big picture of staying with the unlimited plans will continue.
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kcrudup said:
Sorry, but Sprint doesn't suck for everyone. Glad the big picture of staying with the unlimited plans will continue.
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Sorry, but Sprint doesn't suck for everyone. Glad the big picture of staying with the unlimited plans will continue.
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Sprint works great for me.
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Some would say avg d/l speed of less than 200kbps with no end in sight is worse than throttling. At least with throttling you know what is going on. Ads by CEO's which ignore the fact that Sprints average 3G data speed is less than the competition's throttled speed, are not looking at the big picture. Here in SW Florida the 3G is unusable... I just leave wifi on all the time now at both work and at home. As far as the road goes - well it still is a phone, and works fine as that.
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I can't believe this passes for a 3G network.
he looks like a hobo lol
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I can't believe this passes for a 3G network.
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You would expect NYC to be alright but nope, 3G is horrible. Barely useable by today's standards.
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Check out this article. Verizon's data is WAY faster than Sprint's.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2241...x_the_battle_for_your_smartphone_dollars.html
I thought I read on here some where that talked about the Epic having both LTE and WiMAX chips. Anyone else see that thread and is it true??
EDIt: decided to title the thread to better to describe to the discussion.
If you want to be nickeled and dimed sure go ahead also they have data caps and are easy to exceed with these phones and they don't have a full unlimited plan and their customer service is worse than sprint. Also if you switched just cuz they had faster data your a bonehead cuz you could just use wifi at your house or almost anywhere you go if your really wanting faster data.
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the table showing average download and upload speeds is pretty obscure. I rarely see anything below 4 Mbps in Atlanta.
DjBacon, do you get 4g in Atlanta?
I live down in woodstock and don't get **** for signal or 4g here
jbadboy2007 said:
If you want to be nickeled and dimed sure go ahead also they have data caps and are easy to exceed with these phones and they don't have a full unlimited plan and their customer service is worse than sprint. Also if you switched just cuz they had faster data your a bonehead cuz you could just use wifi at your house or almost anywhere you go if your really wanting faster data.
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everything is true except the customer service part. I used to work for verizon, only reason I switched was because of the "real" unlimited plan, and the phone itself. Other than that yes they do have a better data coverage (they always have I think), especially with their LTE service coming up so quickly. but I dont use data as much, maybe more on pandora than anything else. but if you need to be constantly connected for whatever reason, then switch to verizon.
You know what's stupid? So what? Who ****ing cares that its faster. What good is all that speed when your capped at 2gb. Sprint wins. Ill take a slower speed for unlimited data. Not to mention the speeds differ depending on area. Fastest I've gone is 900KB/s. My home connection gets 1300KB/s max. Also I've realized that these phones don't need all that speed. Its become so fast that the phone is the.bottleneck.
To be fair, its true but I'd rather have 3mb DL speed wimax (average speed i get now) at UNLIMITED than 5gb capped 12mb LTE.
Fuuton: Atsugai
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DjBacon, do you get 4g in Atlanta?
I live down in woodstock and don't get **** for signal or 4g here
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Yup, i have 4g in downtown atlanta (obviously) pretty much everywhere I go and also out at my house out in lilburn area (northeast of atlanta). Also have it pretty much everywhere I go here. And like I said, I rarely see it below 4 Mbps, I consistently hit 5.5+ in my house
I'm on sero so im paying less for 2 lines than I would for one verizon line.. faster or not verizon can kiss my ass..
Tapatalkin' it from my Epic 3g
The only time I've ever had it or hadmore than 2 bars is if I go downtown, which I never do
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Yeah sprint is much cheaper and actually has a TRUE unlimited data plan... besides did you consider that they just released LTE so no one actually owns a 4g device to be pulling from the connection, unlike sprint who sold millions of Evos, some amount of epics, and and 4g network cards... Verizon will eventually slow down I'm sure
I've only used 4g once on my epic and its when I was passing through north carolina, and it was ridiculously fast.
No unlimited data = no business from me. Sprint already ensured my loyalty by my plan discounts but Verizon's LTE is going to be a fustercluck until they're forced to really compete for data dollars. And AT&Teabag is a joke when it comes to 4G right now as well. These tests aren't to be believed anyhow since they barely have anyone on their LTE network as it is. I live in a town with a lot of difficult zoning and get a minimum of 4 down and 1 up, sometimes much more, just about everywhere I go now. The only big tech advantage I see LTE having is better inside building reach and you will pay out your a-hole for that with Verizon.
Enjoy
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I'm perfectly happy with my unlimited 4g data with speeds of 2-5kbps. Sprint Customer service has been great too, during my difficult times paying my bill while I'm currently laid off.
shook187 said:
I'm perfectly happy with my unlimited 4g data with speeds of 2-5kbps. Sprint Customer service has been great too, during my difficult times paying my bill while I'm currently laid off.
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that is some pretty slow internet
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that is some pretty slow internet
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lol. Mbps? ;-)
epicslayer said:
Yes that's because sprint uses wimax version 1 . If sprint switches to wimeax 2.x then it will do 300megabits per second. Lte on verizon is about 40mbs
Lte will be on sprint in 2012 and full deployment in 2013
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Actually its more because sprint is running wimax of 10mhz while verizon is 20mhz plus in a better frequency...that said even without wimax 2..if they just update to wimax-enhanced which is a minor upgrade..you would get 40% more efficiency (60% more for new towers) and speeds on par with Verizon's 20mhz LTE in only 10mhz spectrum....
Sprint has horrendous customer service, though I dont know if anyone else is any better.
Verizon has better coverage out in the boonies, when you need it most.
Unlimited data is Nice with Sprint, though you have to be a hacker to take advantage of it.
Does anyone know if they throttle?
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Sprint has horrendous customer service, though I dont know if anyone else is any better.
Verizon has better coverage out in the boonies, when you need it most.
Unlimited data is Nice with Sprint, though you have to be a hacker to take advantage of it.
Does anyone know if they throttle?
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Here is your answer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlkT7gRM0xo&feature=player_embedded
Then again its coming from the CEO of sprint..the same guy who said who said 4g will be as free as TV....
I just wish I had 4g. I would take 4mbps down anyday. I get about 1 to 1.5 on 3g
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Just read this a few minutes ago. Reminds me why I have Sprint.
http://www.techspot.com/news/44973-...ed-data-accounts-tethering-via-jailbreak.html
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Just read this a few minutes ago. Reminds me why I have Sprint.
http://www.techspot.com/news/44973-...ed-data-accounts-tethering-via-jailbreak.html
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Wait... so you're saying that you tether for free via root without paying? You're happy about that?
You do realize that Sprint's 3G network is PATHETICALLY slow? The slowest of the big four by a pretty healthy margin. So you're advocating overloading an already overloaded network without contributing to a damn near profitless company?
No, I actually don't use tethering. I'm just pointing out that I am happy to have Sprint. I'm sure many people do though. Why would I use my phone to tether when I can have speeds like this? That would be dumb.
http://results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/81220912.png
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No, I actually don't use tethering. I'm just pointing out that I am happy to have Sprint. I'm sure many people do though. Why would I use my phone to tether when I can have speeds like this? That would be dumb.
http://results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/81220912.png
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did you notice that I said advocating?
@{ParanoiA} I'm warning you, it's pointless.
Trolling aside...
{ParanoiA} said:
Just read this a few minutes ago. Reminds me why I have Sprint.
http://www.techspot.com/news/44973-...ed-data-accounts-tethering-via-jailbreak.html
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It's only the beginning.
I'm also happy that I pay the one company that stands alone on what I believe is "right"
Edit: Don't recall where anyone said stealing was okay.
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@{ParanoiA} I'm warning you, it's pointless.
Trolling aside...
It's only the beginning.
I'm also happy that I pay the one company that stands alone on what I believe is "right"
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So stealing from Sprint is right? Email Dan Hesse and ask him if he thinks it's cool if you tether without paying.
I saw an article somewhere that said Verizon was doing this also. Something about someone using a Droid x got re-directed to some Verizon site to add tether.
Edit: here is the article
http://m.bgr.com/2011/08/08/verizon-hops-on-ban-wagon-blocks-unauthorized-tetherers/
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So stealing from Sprint is right? Email Dan Hesse and ask him if he thinks it's cool if you tether without paying.
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I'm paying for unlimited data and I should be able to use the data that I am paying for however I want to use it, which includes tethering. Asking for an $30 extra charge for an arbitrary usage of data is what I would call stealing.
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I'm paying for unlimited data and I should be able to use the data that I am paying for however I want to use it, which includes tethering. Asking for an $30 extra charge for an arbitrary usage of data is what I would call stealing.
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You're paying for data, on your PHONE not to be shared with whatever other device you have, this is not a home ISP. That's like saying you're paying $50 a week for unlimited gas but you are filling up every car in your neighborhood. Not only will this cause gas prices to go up because you're abusing it but will also put an end to others getting this deal. Shame that people don't see this.
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Wait... so you're saying that you tether for free via root without paying? You're happy about that?
You do realize that Sprint's 3G network is PATHETICALLY slow? The slowest of the big four by a pretty healthy margin. So you're advocating overloading an already overloaded network without contributing to a damn near profitless company?
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Since when is 23 million in profit for 2010 considered near profitless? Soon they will make more when people finally leave at&t.
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I am a former att customer that received that letter and warning. The only thing is I never teather! Ever! I have had an iphone, but years ago. I was at the time using a htc inspire on the unlimited. I use roughly 4-6gb a month on just my phone. I think why people are getting these is cause the amount of data people are using. I'm pretty sure that's why I got one. Just not really sure if they can really tell if your teathering or just basing it off usage.
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Really it should be one or the other. Data cap or no tethering. If you are capped st 2gb who the hell cares if you tether. You go over it's your ass. If you have unlimited data and tether your laptop to run netflix and torrent the latest movies using 15gb+ every month then you deserve a kick in the balls.
I don't mind sprint's 30$ tether charge. it makes sense on an unlimited plan. if I need internet on other devices it's not a bad option for someone who wouldn't want to sign another contact for internet. And the 1mbps or so 3g I get here ain't bad for that.
I don't need it though and have used root to tether for free and though I have downloaded a couple movies with it (at the horrible 50-100kbps 3g in new mexico) I have yet to exceed 5gb.
I don't condemn using over 10gb a month on occasion but to consistently abuse sprint's unlimited data is just out right stealing.
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Since when is 23 million in profit for 2010 considered near profitless? Soon they will make more when people finally leave at&t.
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Are you serious? LOL!
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So stealing from Sprint is right? Email Dan Hesse and ask him if he thinks it's cool if you tether without paying.
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Did someone hurt your feelings or something. Do you work for Att? Then why does someone posting negative articles about them bother you so much? Oh and what ****ty Sprint speeds are you talking about? My speeds are damn fast.
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You're paying for data, on your PHONE not to be shared with whatever other device you have, this is not a home ISP. That's like saying you're paying $50 a week for unlimited gas but you are filling up every car in your neighborhood. Not only will this cause gas prices to go up because you're abusing it but will also put an end to others getting this deal. Shame that people don't see this.
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BS comparison. I usually agree with you but not on tethering I guess.
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Did someone hurt your feelings or something. Do you work for Att? Then why does someone posting negative articles about them bother you so much? Oh and what ****ty Sprint speeds are you talking about? My speeds are damn fast.
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Your small little observation means very little. A recent nationwide speed test found Sprint to be nearly dead last with all carriers, not just the big four.
Why am I mad? There was a day when Sprint used to do 1.5-2+ Mbps with ease in NYC. Ease. Sprints network is having a crunch right now and I'm lucky to get 750 kbps now. All you freeloading bastards aren't helping.
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BS comparison. I usually agree with you but not on tethering I guess.
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His comparison is right. Mobile data isn't finite. Its significantly more limited than land data. Control is needed to maintain a fast, stable mobile network. A network with unlimited data is no different and needs more control if anything. Your paying for service on your phone and nothing more.
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Your small little observation means very little. A recent nationwide speed test found Sprint to be nearly dead last with all carriers, not just the big four.
Why am I mad? There was a day when Sprint used to do 1.5-2+ Mbps with ease in NYC. Ease. Sprints network is having a crunch right now and I'm lucky to get 750 kbps now. All you freeloading bastards aren't helping.
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Nationwide speed tests mean nothing to me, as I only plan on using my phone in limited areas anyway. This is why you should always test drive the network for the 30 days they give you, not just pick a phone on any carrier.
My speeds are consistently above 1mbps here in the Seattle area, not EVERYWHERE is having issues although it seems there are a lot who do.
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Nationwide speed tests mean nothing to me, as I only plan on using my phone in limited areas anyway. This is why you should always test drive the network for the 30 days they give you, not just pick a phone on any carrier.
My speeds are consistently above 1mbps here in the Seattle area, not EVERYWHERE is having issues although it seems there are a lot who do.
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They tested pretty much all major cities. None averaged more than 1 mbps but its worth noting that they hit peaks of over 2 mbps. The thing is that I can say that I hit 1.x mbps in NYC, and I have, but my average experience is significantly slower than that.
This test showed that not only were Sprints peaks slower but their averages were too. And this is in pretty much all major cities.
Their nationwide average taken from the testing of most major cities put Sprint in nearly last. This wasn't the first time they did these tests either. What this showed is that Sprint slowed significantly year to year.
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Nuff said. But just in case.
short: It's not "theft of service". Sorry. Nothing is being stolen (go look up what steal/theft means). You might however, be in breach of contract. That's about it.
Gosh, got a letter of warning from sprint yesterday. For a couple of months I'd been using the .00001 hack to use Verizon's network. A couple if weeks ago I switched to a normal prl.
They sent me a letter explaing that if ididnt trim back my data roaming, they would shut off my phone. Having done a cost comparison, I can't afford to switch companies. I'm on a sprint employees plan that was linked to sero. Plus the other folks don't allow unlimited data anymore.
Just wanted to give a caution to those of us using the prl hack, they are watching. Thankfully I'd made the switch before I even got the letter and now have roaming blocked with cyanomod v7
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You are lucky that you only received a warning. There are plenty of reports here from people that were not given a choice to terminate service with Sprint. They most defiantly keep a lookout for excessive roaming.
I wonder if it matters on location or how you use their data. I used to do a lot of roaming and never got a letter like that.
Also do you mind linking me to the roam/prl hack?
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I actually asked a Sprint rep if i could force my phone to roam permanently on Verizon and what the repercussions were. She asked me kinda stunned, why would you want to do that? I told her so i could get the data speeds that sprint can't provide. She told me that they would catch it immediately because many, many people are doing that.
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I actually asked a Sprint rep if i could force my phone to roam permanently on Verizon and what the repercussions were. She asked me kinda stunned, why would you want to do that? I told her so i could get the data speeds that sprint can't provide. She told me that they would catch it immediately because many, many people are doing that.
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Funny answer
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If I were to do this, would this be a way to opt out of sprints contract?
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If I were to do this, would this be a way to opt out of sprints contract?
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basically... yes
I got one of those letters after three months of roaming. We're both lucky they didn't can us lol.
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Baby_Phil said:
I got one of those letters after three months of roaming. We're both lucky they didn't can us lol.
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Question- was the roaming speeds that much better? or rather how much better is it
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Question- was the roaming speeds that much better? or rather how much better is it
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I personally dont get above 100kbps down or up on sprint, even with full bars. When roaming on Verizon, I can easily get 2mbps down, even with 1 bar.
playya said:
Question- was the roaming speeds that much better? or rather how much better is it
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I've been using the 0001 PRL and my speeds have improved a decent bit. I seem to be able to buffer Netflix and play an online game like Galcon with less noticeable lag.
The sad thing is, right when I got the EVO 4G, within the first few months, Sprint's 3G speeds easily beat Verizon's. Verizon's speeds are good, but not great, but Sprint's network has been so congested that it merely offers mediocre speeds for me now.
I also don't get voice signal with Sprint at my new place, whereas the Verizon prl gives me signal.
I'll just switch back to a Sprint PRL as soon as I get a warning letter.
I switched back because I didn't see a noticeable speed difference in my area.
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Well Sprint gonna release EVDO REV B which will give us EVO users 5mb down and 1mb up on 3G but for the EVO 3D user and epic 4G touch will get 14mb down and 10mb up on 3G
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sitlet said:
I personally dont get above 100kbps down or up on sprint, even with full bars. When roaming on Verizon, I can easily get 2mbps down, even with 1 bar.
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+1
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How do I change my prl to that Verizon one?
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pfcland said:
Well Sprint gonna release EVDO REV B which will give us EVO users 5mb down and 1mb up on 3G but for the EVO 3D user and epic 4G touch will get 14mb down and 10mb up on 3G
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Whens that going to happen & when they release it do we have to update PRL, how does that work?
sitlet said:
I personally dont get above 100kbps down or up on sprint, even with full bars. When roaming on Verizon, I can easily get 2mbps down, even with 1 bar.
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Yep same here. I have a constantly open ticket at Sprint for their poor data. I told them this when asking if i could roam permanently. I told them that roaming on any other network was faster then Sprint.
Where is the link for changing the PRL to .0001
Verizon PRL hack link below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696073
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for the people that got the warnings, how much roaming data did you use for the past few months? What is considered excessive?
After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I've been less than a mile from a tower and have my connection suck. In a open air environment to.
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I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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"Sprint - to run at full speed"
How ironic lol
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If verizon wasn't so damn expensive I would go there. I think sprint good prices and plan is the reason they won't up the speed of there network. Its not like sprint don't have the technology to do so.
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My speeds depend on which tower I'm connected to. The one on the main road has good signal but crappy speeds, and the tower at work is 1-2 bars but steady 2 mbps. I also work in the boonies and there are probably only 5 people connected to it.
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blackdragon79 said:
After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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Shinydude100 said:
You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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Sprint claims they don't cap under any circumstances. I think the problem is that Sprint simply doesn't know how to maintain their network well enough to keep up with the demand.
I've whined about this endlessly but I'll give a little example of what I'm talking about. My wife and I drove back to our apartment in the city from upstate NY this morning. We had Spotify going the entire time and at no point did we have any skips or gaps in songs during playback. As soon as we got in our neighborhood, however, the song we were listening to cut began getting choppy before eventually cutting out completely. In the time it took us to find a parking spot - about 5 or so minutes - the song cut out for about 4:50 before coming back with a choppy signal. Sprint has told me a few dozen times that there's a problem with a tower in this neighborhood that somehow never gets fixed. Let's face it, if Sprint can't get their network working reliably in NYC, what does that say about their competence?
The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
jnadke said:
The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
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This exactly.
Now they are, unfortunately for us it's going to take a little to see the results.
The mere insinuation that Sprint would be slow [in some areas as slow at 50k] on purpose is...well... I'll be nice and say it isn't smart.
I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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mtwow789 said:
I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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not sure if this is there intention per se but there's certainly some truth to it. I've got friends who have AT&T iPhones and they routinely go over 5 gigs of data in a month with streaming and whatnot. I've never cracked 600 megs with my Epic because the data speeds are too slow - why would I try to download several gigabytes of data when my downstream tops out a .30 Mbps? when I can get on 4G it's great but it usually knocks me off intermittently until I just give up and switch back to 3G.
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
mtwow789 said:
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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I saw ~20 people in the Sprint store this weekend just for the Iphone.
So i guess it not just my crapy little town
If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
mtwow789 said:
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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Good idea - sue them for all they're worth. Then they go bankrupt, and we're all left with Verizon, AT&T or T mobile (or crappy prepaid, which typically piggy backs on the major carrier's networks...)
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sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
mtwow789 said:
sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
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Get a T-Mobile vibrant then unlock it and put in an att sim card. Tell att you want the $15 unlimited data plan for quick messaging phones and give them your imei. If they ask what your phone is tell them it's just an old samsung tmobile phone and mention nothing about android or the real name of the phone, Enjoy.
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styles420 said:
If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
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I'm sure everything you are saying is true. The problem is that Sprint claims they don't limit bandwidth or throttle at all. And it's the line of bulls--t from Sprint that angers me more than their pathetically slow service. That they can't just come forward and speak the truth rather than trying to lure customers in with false promises is a deceptive business practice.
It should be class action for all not just iPhone ppl on sprint.
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