After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I've been less than a mile from a tower and have my connection suck. In a open air environment to.
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I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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"Sprint - to run at full speed"
How ironic lol
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If verizon wasn't so damn expensive I would go there. I think sprint good prices and plan is the reason they won't up the speed of there network. Its not like sprint don't have the technology to do so.
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My speeds depend on which tower I'm connected to. The one on the main road has good signal but crappy speeds, and the tower at work is 1-2 bars but steady 2 mbps. I also work in the boonies and there are probably only 5 people connected to it.
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After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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Sprint claims they don't cap under any circumstances. I think the problem is that Sprint simply doesn't know how to maintain their network well enough to keep up with the demand.
I've whined about this endlessly but I'll give a little example of what I'm talking about. My wife and I drove back to our apartment in the city from upstate NY this morning. We had Spotify going the entire time and at no point did we have any skips or gaps in songs during playback. As soon as we got in our neighborhood, however, the song we were listening to cut began getting choppy before eventually cutting out completely. In the time it took us to find a parking spot - about 5 or so minutes - the song cut out for about 4:50 before coming back with a choppy signal. Sprint has told me a few dozen times that there's a problem with a tower in this neighborhood that somehow never gets fixed. Let's face it, if Sprint can't get their network working reliably in NYC, what does that say about their competence?
The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
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The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
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This exactly.
Now they are, unfortunately for us it's going to take a little to see the results.
The mere insinuation that Sprint would be slow [in some areas as slow at 50k] on purpose is...well... I'll be nice and say it isn't smart.
I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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not sure if this is there intention per se but there's certainly some truth to it. I've got friends who have AT&T iPhones and they routinely go over 5 gigs of data in a month with streaming and whatnot. I've never cracked 600 megs with my Epic because the data speeds are too slow - why would I try to download several gigabytes of data when my downstream tops out a .30 Mbps? when I can get on 4G it's great but it usually knocks me off intermittently until I just give up and switch back to 3G.
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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I saw ~20 people in the Sprint store this weekend just for the Iphone.
So i guess it not just my crapy little town
If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
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I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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Good idea - sue them for all they're worth. Then they go bankrupt, and we're all left with Verizon, AT&T or T mobile (or crappy prepaid, which typically piggy backs on the major carrier's networks...)
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sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
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sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
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Get a T-Mobile vibrant then unlock it and put in an att sim card. Tell att you want the $15 unlimited data plan for quick messaging phones and give them your imei. If they ask what your phone is tell them it's just an old samsung tmobile phone and mention nothing about android or the real name of the phone, Enjoy.
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If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
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I'm sure everything you are saying is true. The problem is that Sprint claims they don't limit bandwidth or throttle at all. And it's the line of bulls--t from Sprint that angers me more than their pathetically slow service. That they can't just come forward and speak the truth rather than trying to lure customers in with false promises is a deceptive business practice.
It should be class action for all not just iPhone ppl on sprint.
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Was sprint version of 4g some sick joke that no one seem to get?
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Was sprint version of 4g some sick joke that no one seem to get?
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Huh? Do you mean the Wimax they puchased from Clearwire? It works well in my area when it's not down. About 5X faster than 3G.
I get good 4G in my area
EDIT - but don't really have a need for it
I have to agree with OP ... even when i can get 4g i don't use it b/c it's never been alot faster than 3g for me ...
I feel that when you make purchase like a cellphone you should do some research first. Especially about signal quality. Im not upset about the 2 mile radius of 4g I get in davenport, iowa. I knew it was weak. And I know that signal quality can drop alot by going inside a building or even in a car. I know from my experience that 4g in chicago and orlando has far exceeded my expectations. Either deal with it or go away. Complaints here wont make your 4g better.
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My honest opinion:
It was a bold and possibly masterful move which serves to fulfill both a short and long-term goal.
In the short-term, it allowed them to lay claim to being the first US carrier to feature "4g". In hindsight this may seem trivial, but it had the immediate impact of gaining a lot of new and upgrading subscribers locked into 2 year contracts due only to the fact that they were the only ones around with 4g, and the idea sounded intriguing to many users. They of course had to have known of wimax's poor performance compared to LTE, but a company (clearwire) had already laid some groundwork so it would allow them a window to be the only one with 4g. That, combined with my next reason, is why I think they went with wimax. A pretty bold move by only the 3rd largest wireless carrier.
The long-term goal and the possibly masterful explantion deals with, of course as we've all heard before, the possibility that Sprint may convert their iden network (which is huge) to LTE. If/when Sprint officially confirms this, it should solidify my thoery. What I have learned here is that wimax and LTE can operate simultaneously on a device. This would be an ideal setup as a user can have the best of both worlds: wimax with it's higher operating frequency has the potential to have a higher data density, where as LTE provides much better building and terrain penetration with it's lower frequency. Should Sprint in fact decide to do this, they would near instantly have the largest and possibly most reliable 4g network.
This could also possibly explain Sprint's previously sudden decision to go with wimax when it had appeared they were dead set on LTE. It seems very possible that the idea might have popped in to their head back when all this debate was happening, and after crunching the numbers decided they could afford such a longterm plan. The fruition of this down-the-road decision combined with the boost they got in the short-run from being the first 4g carrier would decisively increase both their stature an their revenue.
This is, of course, entirely speculation and conjecture. But remember that Dan Hesse is no idiot.
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My 4g kills 3g. Two days ago I was downloading at just under 10000 Kbps, and I routinely get 6500-7000 outside and 2500-4500 inside buildings. This is easily 4-15x faster than the 600-800 I get on 3g. I can tether to my laptop at my house and stream Netflix without constant interruptions and buffering.
I cannot and will not complain about data speeds over 4g.
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My 4g kills 3g. Two days ago I was downloading at just under 10000 Kbps, and I routinely get 6500-7000 outside and 2500-4500 inside buildings. This is easily 4-15x faster than the 600-800 I get on 3g. I can tether to my laptop at my house and stream Netflix without constant interruptions and buffering.
I cannot and will not complain about data speeds over 4g.
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Same here. I find 3G almost unusuable since they basically launched 4G in my area the week Epic came out. 5000-8000 kbps download and a steady 1400 kbps upload speed. If you haven't had it yet then that's probably better because its worse to have it for a brief time then have to give it up
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The only thing Wimax is faster than is ATT "4G" joke but ATT is still better because it's actually 3G that you can use all the time. Tmo "4G" is faster than than wimax and Verizon is faster than any other carrier. So other than wasting a lot of money that they don't have, I don't see why Sprint kept building wimax towers after they saw how poor the frequency was. And before everyone goes bananas with "sprint has truly unlimited" blah blah blah, that's not going to work forever. Their 3G network is so far behind all the other carriers and it's not getting any better.
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Was sprint version of 4g some sick joke that no one seem to get?
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Please formulate thoughts and ideas prior to posting. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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Please formulate thoughts and ideas prior to posting. I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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Let's see if Verizon and T-Mobile's speeds stay that high as more people get 4G. Sprint sold a ton of Epics and Evos...maybe I am just making excuses
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just stumbled across this, we may have to watch our tethering habits fella's
http://thecasualgeek.tumblr.com/post/8241532886/at-t-to-begin-throttling-unlimited-data-users
Sounds good to me, the top 5% heaviest users probably account for 30%-40% of data used across the entire mobile network in a month.
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Yeah, I can see it being an issue when people use a tethered phone as their primary internet service. I never go over the 2gb limit and I have unlimited.
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Welcome to Canada...
I use 2gig on average and I can't say I tether. Always on the market, netflix, Pandora etc. I also use QIK with my wife and kids. Wish they could make a Facetime app so I can call their Iphones though. Tango is aweful lately but QIK is pretty good.
Thats exactly wat tmobile does
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So basically the people who AT&T considers "abusing" their wireless network will be affected only. Not a big deal to me. Seems to me AT&T just needs to add more hotspots and problem solved.
"Typically what puts someone in the top 5 percent is streaming very large amounts of video and music daily over the wireless network, not Wi-Fi. "
Here's a better idea. Remove all the iPhone ****** users and problem solved.
IPhone users automatically equal tier plan death to carriers. It's truly game over whenever Sprint gets the iPhone...
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I'd rather have throttled unlimited data vs a 2gb cap with possible overage charges.
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I have yet to go over 2gig in a month anyway, I added tethering for my tablet which bumped it to 4gig at $45, still haven't went over 4. I don't mind paying even though I can tether free, since they are going to charge me $10 bucks for each gig over anyway. wish we would get 4G speeds where i live tho
The issue is how do they calculate the "heaviest users"?
Possibilities.
Assumption: throttling starts at 5gb
1. If i have unlimited plan and use about 6gb.
2. If i have a tethering plan and i use 6gb.
Scenario #1, i am ok with. 6gb using just a phone is a hell of a lot. i have hit 4gb once and that was when i left wifi off all month.
Scenario #2 would piss me off. Part of getting the tethering plan is because you will be using large amounts of data. In essence they are saying, we dont care. I bet ther only users that will be affected are the people who tether, and that is utte bull****.
Either way, we dont know when the throttling starts because AT&T doesnt release data usage stats.
Well this sucks for me. I do 10+GB a month. My record was in the mid 40s. I do a lot of tethering. And a lot of P2P with that tethering.
well I'll just have to upgrade my home internet
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Maroon Mushroom said:
Well this sucks for me. I do 10+GB a month. My record was in the mid 40s. I do a lot of tethering. And a lot of P2P with that tethering.
well I'll just have to upgrade my home internet
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that's what they are trying to stop -.-
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Here's a better idea. Remove all the iPhone ****** users and problem solved.
IPhone users automatically equal tier plan death to carriers. It's truly game over whenever Sprint gets the iPhone...
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I would like to know the logic to this. We have both and it's the Androids that seem to leach the most data. My wife was never over 200mb with her iPhone or Surround, but she's had 2 Inspires (warrantied once for this reason). They leached data straight out of the box. Her Inspire averages 900mb.
She is almost always home on wifi, and our house is an Edge-only area.
The iPhone doesn't do anything more to a network than the Androids. It only got the label of network killer because it was the first truly powerful smartphone they released. It was also so much of a hit, it pulled in dumb phone users who never thought of getting a smartphone.
The current line of Androids are just as fast, and faster, than the iPhone4. They stream HD video, and are uncorked from the box. I cant even download a podcast if it's over 20mb while on my i4.
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I would like to know the logic to this. We have both and it's the Androids that seem to leach the most data. My wife was never over 200mb with her iPhone or Surround, but she's had 2 Inspires (warrantied once for this reason). They leached data straight out of the box. Her Inspire averages 900mb.
She is almost always home on wifi, and our house is an Edge-only area.
The iPhone doesn't do anything more to a network than the Androids. It only got the label of network killer because it was the first truly powerful smartphone they released. It was also so much of a hit, it pulled in dumb phone users who never thought of getting a smartphone.
The current line of Androids are just as fast, and faster, than the iPhone4. They stream HD video, and are uncorked from the box. I cant even download a podcast if it's over 20mb while on my i4.
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Both AT&T and Verizon have complained about network overload issues after taking on the iPhone. They like the money that the phone brings in, but then cry poor that their networks are suffering.
Verizon was doing just fine with their Android lineup.
They thought they could handle the iPhone and show up AT&T with their network. Now they are just known as victim #2.
Sprint is now the new favorite on different message boards. Guarantee if they take on the iPhone, it will be tiered data death for them too.
Just one of my MANY reasons why I hate Apple...
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I don't like this at all. I tether on very rare occasions. But I have a 2 hour bus commute and half hour bike ride to and from work 5 days a week. During that time I am almost always streaming video or music, whether it be from hulu, Netflix, Pandora, Google Music etc...
My billing cycle ends on the 3rd. I just checked what my usage for July has been. In July I had a week off from work. Even with that week off and using wifi every minute I'm at home im still at 6.8gb. This worries me. I'm not abusing the data service, I'm just using it in my daily routine. I don't know if that amount of data could potentially throttle me but it would sure suck if I if it did.
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I still have my Unltd Data from way back 09, so this sort of blows for me, but AT&T has a business to run, I guess.
Nice corporate guru responses. The "top 5%" is gonna be anyone over 2gb, since that amount was put in place by the company as 95% of AT&T's customers using less than that. At least other carriers throttle to new unlimited plans, at&t doesn't even offer this anymore. All they are doing is rewarding dumb people who think a smartphone makes them smarter while curbing technological advances in streaming music and video.
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I wonder if I'll be affected by this.. I don't tether at all and sometimes i hit 20gb. I'm on netflix often, play my pocket legends, vendetta online and download some movies/anime. I have unlimited data.
Im probably going to leave at&t for sprint sometime next year. I never go over 2gb a month and I couldn't imagine how slow my connection would be if they started throttling my data usage. I live in Destin FL and I have seen no improvements going from an aria to an atrix network speed wise. The other day I was at work and a guy there constantly ridicules me for paying nearly $200 a month when he pays 45 on boost.. my argument was the network speed... so we downloaded some large images. Streamed some videos from youtube and on every occasion his samsung galaxy prevail would download nearly twice as fast on boosts 3g vs my atrix's "4g" ... and he has unlimited everything. Yet still my atrix speedtests are better than our work phones which are on verizon's 3g.
I think, as at&t customers especially ones that are loyal to them pay entirely too much money for sub par network performance .. the only thing they have going for them is being able to browse and use voice on the network..
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Just read this a few minutes ago. Reminds me why I have Sprint.
http://www.techspot.com/news/44973-...ed-data-accounts-tethering-via-jailbreak.html
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Just read this a few minutes ago. Reminds me why I have Sprint.
http://www.techspot.com/news/44973-...ed-data-accounts-tethering-via-jailbreak.html
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Wait... so you're saying that you tether for free via root without paying? You're happy about that?
You do realize that Sprint's 3G network is PATHETICALLY slow? The slowest of the big four by a pretty healthy margin. So you're advocating overloading an already overloaded network without contributing to a damn near profitless company?
No, I actually don't use tethering. I'm just pointing out that I am happy to have Sprint. I'm sure many people do though. Why would I use my phone to tether when I can have speeds like this? That would be dumb.
http://results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/81220912.png
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No, I actually don't use tethering. I'm just pointing out that I am happy to have Sprint. I'm sure many people do though. Why would I use my phone to tether when I can have speeds like this? That would be dumb.
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did you notice that I said advocating?
@{ParanoiA} I'm warning you, it's pointless.
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{ParanoiA} said:
Just read this a few minutes ago. Reminds me why I have Sprint.
http://www.techspot.com/news/44973-...ed-data-accounts-tethering-via-jailbreak.html
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It's only the beginning.
I'm also happy that I pay the one company that stands alone on what I believe is "right"
Edit: Don't recall where anyone said stealing was okay.
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@{ParanoiA} I'm warning you, it's pointless.
Trolling aside...
It's only the beginning.
I'm also happy that I pay the one company that stands alone on what I believe is "right"
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So stealing from Sprint is right? Email Dan Hesse and ask him if he thinks it's cool if you tether without paying.
I saw an article somewhere that said Verizon was doing this also. Something about someone using a Droid x got re-directed to some Verizon site to add tether.
Edit: here is the article
http://m.bgr.com/2011/08/08/verizon-hops-on-ban-wagon-blocks-unauthorized-tetherers/
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So stealing from Sprint is right? Email Dan Hesse and ask him if he thinks it's cool if you tether without paying.
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I'm paying for unlimited data and I should be able to use the data that I am paying for however I want to use it, which includes tethering. Asking for an $30 extra charge for an arbitrary usage of data is what I would call stealing.
iwin2000 said:
I'm paying for unlimited data and I should be able to use the data that I am paying for however I want to use it, which includes tethering. Asking for an $30 extra charge for an arbitrary usage of data is what I would call stealing.
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You're paying for data, on your PHONE not to be shared with whatever other device you have, this is not a home ISP. That's like saying you're paying $50 a week for unlimited gas but you are filling up every car in your neighborhood. Not only will this cause gas prices to go up because you're abusing it but will also put an end to others getting this deal. Shame that people don't see this.
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Wait... so you're saying that you tether for free via root without paying? You're happy about that?
You do realize that Sprint's 3G network is PATHETICALLY slow? The slowest of the big four by a pretty healthy margin. So you're advocating overloading an already overloaded network without contributing to a damn near profitless company?
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Since when is 23 million in profit for 2010 considered near profitless? Soon they will make more when people finally leave at&t.
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I am a former att customer that received that letter and warning. The only thing is I never teather! Ever! I have had an iphone, but years ago. I was at the time using a htc inspire on the unlimited. I use roughly 4-6gb a month on just my phone. I think why people are getting these is cause the amount of data people are using. I'm pretty sure that's why I got one. Just not really sure if they can really tell if your teathering or just basing it off usage.
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Really it should be one or the other. Data cap or no tethering. If you are capped st 2gb who the hell cares if you tether. You go over it's your ass. If you have unlimited data and tether your laptop to run netflix and torrent the latest movies using 15gb+ every month then you deserve a kick in the balls.
I don't mind sprint's 30$ tether charge. it makes sense on an unlimited plan. if I need internet on other devices it's not a bad option for someone who wouldn't want to sign another contact for internet. And the 1mbps or so 3g I get here ain't bad for that.
I don't need it though and have used root to tether for free and though I have downloaded a couple movies with it (at the horrible 50-100kbps 3g in new mexico) I have yet to exceed 5gb.
I don't condemn using over 10gb a month on occasion but to consistently abuse sprint's unlimited data is just out right stealing.
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Since when is 23 million in profit for 2010 considered near profitless? Soon they will make more when people finally leave at&t.
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Are you serious? LOL!
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So stealing from Sprint is right? Email Dan Hesse and ask him if he thinks it's cool if you tether without paying.
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Did someone hurt your feelings or something. Do you work for Att? Then why does someone posting negative articles about them bother you so much? Oh and what ****ty Sprint speeds are you talking about? My speeds are damn fast.
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You're paying for data, on your PHONE not to be shared with whatever other device you have, this is not a home ISP. That's like saying you're paying $50 a week for unlimited gas but you are filling up every car in your neighborhood. Not only will this cause gas prices to go up because you're abusing it but will also put an end to others getting this deal. Shame that people don't see this.
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BS comparison. I usually agree with you but not on tethering I guess.
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Did someone hurt your feelings or something. Do you work for Att? Then why does someone posting negative articles about them bother you so much? Oh and what ****ty Sprint speeds are you talking about? My speeds are damn fast.
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Your small little observation means very little. A recent nationwide speed test found Sprint to be nearly dead last with all carriers, not just the big four.
Why am I mad? There was a day when Sprint used to do 1.5-2+ Mbps with ease in NYC. Ease. Sprints network is having a crunch right now and I'm lucky to get 750 kbps now. All you freeloading bastards aren't helping.
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BS comparison. I usually agree with you but not on tethering I guess.
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His comparison is right. Mobile data isn't finite. Its significantly more limited than land data. Control is needed to maintain a fast, stable mobile network. A network with unlimited data is no different and needs more control if anything. Your paying for service on your phone and nothing more.
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Award Tour said:
Your small little observation means very little. A recent nationwide speed test found Sprint to be nearly dead last with all carriers, not just the big four.
Why am I mad? There was a day when Sprint used to do 1.5-2+ Mbps with ease in NYC. Ease. Sprints network is having a crunch right now and I'm lucky to get 750 kbps now. All you freeloading bastards aren't helping.
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Nationwide speed tests mean nothing to me, as I only plan on using my phone in limited areas anyway. This is why you should always test drive the network for the 30 days they give you, not just pick a phone on any carrier.
My speeds are consistently above 1mbps here in the Seattle area, not EVERYWHERE is having issues although it seems there are a lot who do.
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Nationwide speed tests mean nothing to me, as I only plan on using my phone in limited areas anyway. This is why you should always test drive the network for the 30 days they give you, not just pick a phone on any carrier.
My speeds are consistently above 1mbps here in the Seattle area, not EVERYWHERE is having issues although it seems there are a lot who do.
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They tested pretty much all major cities. None averaged more than 1 mbps but its worth noting that they hit peaks of over 2 mbps. The thing is that I can say that I hit 1.x mbps in NYC, and I have, but my average experience is significantly slower than that.
This test showed that not only were Sprints peaks slower but their averages were too. And this is in pretty much all major cities.
Their nationwide average taken from the testing of most major cities put Sprint in nearly last. This wasn't the first time they did these tests either. What this showed is that Sprint slowed significantly year to year.
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Nuff said. But just in case.
short: It's not "theft of service". Sorry. Nothing is being stolen (go look up what steal/theft means). You might however, be in breach of contract. That's about it.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/245561/sprint_delays_4g_lte_rollout.html
The good news, if one can take seriously any statements coming from Overland Park, KS., is that Sprint will support 4G through 2015. This, of course, like the terms of our contracts, is subject to change at any time for any reason. I guess the $1.5 billion "Investment" in Clear, anticipated legal fees and class-action payouts in light of the C.I.Q. melt-down, and not-to-be-realized data mining profits have taken their toll.
Have you forgotten some old proverbs:
Honesty is the best policy
Cheaters never prosper
The cover-up is worse than the crime
How about trying a new one,
Our customers can handle the truth.
End of rant.
The LTE uncertainty is why I am holding off on an upgrade till at least late 2012.
Jayavarman said:
The LTE uncertainty is why I am holding off on an upgrade till at least late 2012.
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It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
My warrant officer has an HTC jet stream on at&t running lte 26+ down speed test I'm planning on switching it honestly isn't that expensive for what I need
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The network upgrade is proceeding as planned they just wont have the devices until the second half of 2012.
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It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
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And to add to that they just purchased a large amount of spectrum to use for lte. I'm 90% going to switch to Verizon when my contract ends next October. Unless sprint pulls something really good out of their ass..
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I use a ton of data so ATT or Verizon isn't an option. I'm fine with my evo through most of 2012 until the LTE phones come out. I'm confused about some of the posts in here though. Sure, 20mps is awesome....but doesn't that mean you just hit the cap sooner?
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I use a ton of data so ATT or Verizon isn't an option. I'm fine with my evo through most of 2012 until the LTE phones come out. I'm confused about some of the posts in here though. Sure, 20mps is awesome....but doesn't that mean you just hit the cap sooner?
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No, its just how much data you can pull in chunks. Whether you download a 100mb file at 500kb/s or 25Mb/s , its the same amount of data, you'll just get it faster at 25Mb/s.
I wish I was getting 500kbps lol I live in the Indy area and can't get ****
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No, its just how much data you can pull in chunks. Whether you download a 100mb file at 500kb/s or 25Mb/s , its the same amount of data, you'll just get it faster at 25Mb/s.
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Since vz data is not unlimited you actually do hit the cap faster. I know if i had 4g or lte i would be jammin on that data!
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Since vz data is not unlimited you actually do hit the cap faster. I know if i had 4g or lte i would be jammin on that data!
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If that's how they're operating, they're literally robbing you.
Sprints data is unlimited. Verizon and att have a capped plan. You get x amount of data for x amount of money. If you go over you pay. I like sprint. I live in a rural are and roam off a verizon tower. I still dont hit the data roaming limit and only the voice roaming limit once. And i have 9 lines on two plans.
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Yes but our unlimited data means nothing if you can't get any data to begin with I love sprints plan but hate their service right now its unfortunate since I'm generally happy except for my data speeds
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I get sweet speeds on WiMax and good speeds on 3G. I'm sticking with Sprint since I routinely use more than 5GB of data each month. Every month a bit more. Soon I'll be over 6GB/mo.
Although, all bets are off if they don't get the Galaxy Nexus by Feb.
How much data does an average person used in a month? For all carriers?
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It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
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And their highest data plan can be used up in 30 minutes at that speed lol
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It's why I'm switching to Verizon after the first of the year. They already have working 4g that gets 20mbps down.
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Wait until there is network congestion and lets see the speeds then. Currently in Indianapolis I have way better 3G speeds then version does and no caps and 4G though not official as it's still under Clear but it's 11Mb down all day..
When Sprint launched 4G in St. Louis and Chicago the speeds were a lot faster then they are now that there is more users on the network. Also faster the speed the faster you will hit their cap and the faster you will be complaining because you have to pay the overages.
$30 a month for 2GB vs. $10 a month for unlimited. The numbers don't lie but like the old saying goes a fool and his money are soon parted.
I've used different radios and all that I'm by no means a noob my friend don't get me wrong if I could I would stay but unfortunately I'm at my best 1mbps and I only get that late at night during the day when I'm up 200k at best its maddening
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Dont feel so bad guys, some people have it worst. My best download speeds most of the time is around 48kbps on a good day I'll be at 129kbps
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Switching to verizon in feb when contract is up.
In about a month I am leaving Sprint due to their terrible terrible horrendous data speeds in south Louisiana. I also have lot's of doubt and trust in their huge Network upgrade and I don't feel like waiting a year more. I'm getting Verizon and the Galaxy Nexus. If you experience similar frustration with Sprint feel free to vent and post speed test results etc. Does anybody know any way to get out of contract without an ETF?
haha, i live in baton rouge and i dont like sprint either. i was thinking of switching to Verizon when my contract ends since they have 4g lte in baton rouge.
Yes their 3G speeds suck but having true unlimited is important to me since I stream a lot of music/video so that makes up for it.
See ya! Jk. Sorry to hear about your speeds but their network upgrade is definitely worth the wait
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No. Will be waiting for their network upgrade. Sprint is the only network which allows a true nexus with wallet. I don't need to be forced with some apps which apparently can not be removed unless you root it.
MrDrumngun said:
In about a month I am leaving Sprint due to their terrible terrible horrendous data speeds in south Louisiana. I also have lot's of doubt and trust in their huge Network upgrade and I don't feel like waiting a year more. I'm getting Verizon and the Galaxy Nexus. If you experience similar frustration with Sprint feel free to vent and post speed test results etc. Does anybody know any way to get out of contract without an ETF?
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If you're on a family plan and receiving employee discount pricing they're raising the price next month giving you a chance to get out without ETF as its a breach of the ToS.
Yup!!
I have been contemplating leaving sprint also. They may have truly unlimited data but in reality you dont use much data via sprint network as it takes forever to load anything in Baton Rouge. O and guess what, the data unlimited plan is not truly unlimited. The will cut off your service if you use over 5 gb (may be less) of data on 3g. It is only the use of 4g which is truly unlimited.
They have been saying Baton Rouge would have 4g since the evo came out and yet still nothing. The sad part is Hammond has 4g and the population is not even 1/8th of Baton Rouge's pop. I doubt BR will ever get 4g.
As far as getting out ETF free, good luck with that. I have tried every way possible with no luck. But what I have not done, which would definitely work, is stream as much youtube and download huge files as much as possible or force your phone into roaming on data and calls for consecutive months
ryandoubleu said:
I have been contemplating leaving sprint also. They may have truly unlimited data but in reality you dont use much data via sprint network as it takes forever to load anything in Baton Rouge. O and guess what, the data unlimited plan is not truly unlimited. The will cut off your service if you use over 5 gb (may be less) of data on 3g. It is only the use of 4g which is truly unlimited.
They have been saying Baton Rouge would have 4g since the evo came out and yet still nothing. The sad part is Hammond has 4g and the population is not even 1/8th of Baton Rouge's pop. I doubt BR will ever get 4g.
As far as getting out ETF free, good luck with that. I have tried every way possible with no luck. But what I have not done, which would definitely work, is stream as much youtube and download huge files as much as possible or force your phone into roaming on data and calls for consecutive months
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where in hammond is there 4g? it does not specify 4g on the sprint 4g map
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If you're on a family plan and receiving employee discount pricing they're raising the price next month giving you a chance to get out without ETF as its a breach of the ToS.
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They are definitely not raising prices
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I have been contemplating leaving sprint also. They may have truly unlimited data but in reality you dont use much data via sprint network as it takes forever to load anything in Baton Rouge. O and guess what, the data unlimited plan is not truly unlimited. The will cut off your service if you use over 5 gb (may be less) of data on 3g. It is only the use of 4g which is truly unlimited.
They have been saying Baton Rouge would have 4g since the evo came out and yet still nothing. The sad part is Hammond has 4g and the population is not even 1/8th of Baton Rouge's pop. I doubt BR will ever get 4g.
As far as getting out ETF free, good luck with that. I have tried every way possible with no luck. But what I have not done, which would definitely work, is stream as much youtube and download huge files as much as possible or force your phone into roaming on data and calls for consecutive months
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No... They are unlimited on anything, how many times do people have to say this. 5gig cap is for hotspot and connection cards
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It's not the price they're raising but the amount you save from your employer discount is going to be a lot less. So it's definitely going to cost you more. They've been doing a lot of things that have been making people want to switch. They charge for "premium" data, completely stopped expanding 4g, scrapped the annual upgrade, killed the premier status, and now this? They're making it really hard for anyone to want to stick around...
The will cut off your service if you use over 5 gb (may be less) of data on 3g. It is only the use of 4g which is truly unlimited.
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not once in my 8 years with sprint have i ever had an issue with going over 5gb which i always do, nor have i ever heard anyone say it happened to them unless they were roaming more then using sprint
3G here in new Orleans has been terrible since 08 but there family plans just beats anyone. And I'm constantly around wifi so its not as bad.
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It's not the price they're raising but the amount you save from your employer discount is going to be a lot less. So it's definitely going to cost you more. They've been doing a lot of things that have been making people want to switch. They charge for "premium" data, completely stopped expanding 4g, scrapped the annual upgrade, killed the premier status, and now this? They're making it really hard for anyone to want to stick around...
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Anything is "a lot less" when people are just looking for an excuse to cancel. The highest discount will be losing $5.40 a month, but those are rare, most people will go down just a few cents to a dollar a month.
I actually like what they've been doing and the direction they're headed, it is putting a stop to all these people talking advantage of what they have to offer. Where I live, my 3G gets over 2Mbps and 4G gets 10 so my unlimited data works great
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DirtyShroomz said:
No... They are unlimited on anything, how many times do people have to say this. 5gig cap is for hotspot and connection cards
Then why would they send me a letter about my 3g usage and direct me to this passage
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In addition to the rules for using all of our other Services, unless we identify the Service or Device that you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, wireless routers, Data Link, etc.), you can't use our data Services: (1) with server devices or host computer applications or other systems that drive continuous, heavy traffic or data sessions; (2) as a substitute or backup for private lines or frame relay connections; or (3) for any other unintended use as we determine in our sole discretion. We reserve the right to limit, suspend, or constrain any heavy, continuous data usage that adversely impacts our networks performances or hinders access to our networks. If your Services include web or data access, you also can't use your Device as a modem for computers or other equipment, unless we identify the Service or Device you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, with "phone as modem" plans, Sprint Mobile Broadband card plans, wireless router plans, etc.).
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where in hammond is there 4g? it does not specify 4g on the sprint 4g map
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4g is in the Best Buy area of Hammond. It doesnt show up on sprints map for some odd reason. if you dont believe me go to the area and try it out
If you want out, roam like a mofo. You have to roam a certain percentage in order for them to boot you.
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Specific Terms & Restrictions On Using Data Services
In addition to the rules for using all of our other Services, unless we identify the Service or Device that you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, wireless routers, Data Link, etc.), you can't use our data Services: (1) with server devices or host computer applications or other systems that drive continuous, heavy traffic or data sessions; (2) as a substitute or backup for private lines or frame relay connections; or (3) for any other unintended use as we determine in our sole discretion. We reserve the right to limit, suspend, or constrain any heavy, continuous data usage that adversely impacts our networks performances or hinders access to our networks. If your Services include web or data access, you also can't use your Device as a modem for computers or other equipment, unless we identify the Service or Device you have selected as specifically intended for that purpose (for example, with "phone as modem" plans, Sprint Mobile Broadband card plans, wireless router plans, etc.).
4g is in the Best Buy area of Hammond. It doesnt show up on sprints map for some odd reason. if you dont believe me go to the area and try it out
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Let me guess, you're tethering and using 50+ gigs a month? That's why you got that.
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im pretty sure sprint is unlimited no limitations
Have you considered moving away from Louisiana?
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Let me guess, you're tethering and using 50+ gigs a month? That's why you got that.
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I dont use tethering on my phone because I have wifi around most the places I go not to mention the data speeds in baton rouge are slower than dial-up, so tethering woudn't be much use. It was one of those months I was downloading a bunch of different roms though.
Sorry to burst your bubble but not all sprint customers are bad customers. I had them send me a letter a time before that to tell me I was using too many roaming minutes the previous months and when I checked my bill for the prior months I only had about 30 or 40 minutes roaming for all the months. I called them and they were at a loss for words